Learn From the Pros: Short Stack Comeback

[Bescumberer]

That FullTilt Poker looks good. Might give it a try ....... DOH

[Izaak247]

Thi didn't help

[Izaak247]

Poker* not poor lol

[Izaak247]

You won like 7 when there was like 20 people!!! I love that line hahha. Btw question too all good poor players, I see a short stack as half the average chip stack and I don't consider how many big blinds I have because I think that because i have half the amount of chips an average player has, that I am half as likely too beat em.... Is this strategy wrong? Please explain and tell me if there is math involved or something. Thanks y'all

[killerkombokalamari]

@Izaak247 the average shouldnt bother you too much, because in a turbo its around 15 to 20bb in the late stage and in a rebuy non turbo it will be around 40 to 60bb (especially the non trubo rush rebuy). so in the turbo everybody could be the next one out and a shortstack can become chipleader in a few hands. i would use the bb amount in the early stage and M ( your stack divided through the preflop pot ) when the antes kick in.

[killerkombokalamari]

@Izaak247 to calculate M: stack divided by (sb+bb+9antes) = M. so at 100/200 antes 25 with a stack of 5k its 5000/525 = 9.24. that means you have enough chips to survive 9 rounds w/o playing a hand before you get blinded down. M of 20+ = green M where you can steal and play a bit more like a cash game. M of 10 to 20= yellow M where you should keep in mind that you are more likely to be all in. M 5 to 10= every hand you open has to be good enough to call an all in with. M 1 to 5= push or fold

[killerkombokalamari]

@Izaak247 and M 0 to 1= any 2 or to say it in other words you re already dead. hope that helped a bit. i wouldnt write down all that stuff, but you asked for the math. gg and gl

[blanchebre55]

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[pufifa]

learn to play poker

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[JuanSherey]

awesome!

[NegreanuDan81]

@manaaco8898

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[HunterHecks]

Hear about referral codes? I haven't until lately I made big dough from it with no sweat atall. Just used the code FILM with fullTiltPoker and got $600 money! Poker was hard for me but now I play good cuz was easy to

[krata77]

the professor, the mouth and the brat hahahaha

[fix520]

"you won 7 of those bracelets when ther' were 20 people!" lol

[fidelheartsmarilyn]

i like mikes advice best

[JohnF30Music]

lol mike and phil must be real good friends . very fun

[CAMCABO4KAX]

gotta love Mikey)))

[Ragnaer]

ROFL - worst ad EVER

[bredlin]

i love how they all have multiple bracelets, and then they get to that hot clueless slut on the end and all shes done is won some no-name women's only tournament 7 years ago

[Ragnaer]

dude thats Clonie Gowan - she is an extremely competent cash game player - and very successful as well

[ericlikesyou]

yup

[Nigglips]

but she has boobs

[Tehui1974]

Some more good advice here.

[julesickdrums]

matusow speaks like daffy the duck

[zalmi1]

Phil has 11 now. Not only that, he's come in 2nd in a lot of tournaments, as well as almost winning his 12th in last years wsop in a non-Hold Em event. Phil, to me, is one of the world's best poker players, and one of the only players who deserves to be able to talk smack at the tables. He knows poker better than anybody, not to mention, his best game is when he plays the short stack, as last years main event proves my point. He'll make it to 16 before he retires/dies.

[OldplusNew]

Only player I'll put over Hellmuth is Ivey. But yea, Phil is definitely top 3 tournament players in the world.

My top 3:

Most talented / aggressive: Ivey

Most intuitive: Hellmuth

Most consistent: Matusow

[CoReMaximus]

Best reads: Daniel Negreanu (not always best decisions tho lol)

[Hedwig30]

I think 16 is about right....Phil truly loves the game and is very competitive...He can be a douche but is very competitve...

[tryss]

LOL mike to phil: "BUT you won 7 of them when there was 20 people! how many have you won lately??" LOL that's so true

[Anaxagoran]

you know he's up to 11 now right?

[skupernation]

@tryss 11

[tryss]

lol... play chips is way different than real money you will get crushed if you go straight from play chips to real chips

[ml497]

Depends what play chip level and what money level. If you go up high enough in stakes, there are some decent play chip players.

[tryss]

no matter what, play chips cannot compare to cash players

[tyrone37]

one time i was down to 20 chip whewn average was 15,000 and i came back using this strategy, i ended up getting 1,125th place and got a cool 10,000 in play chips. now im going to the real money, and you know what im gona do the same thing and ram it in there ear hole

[bassalltheway]

lol @ mike towards the end..."how many you won recently?" lol

[plato235]

I agree with phil,you have to have a good hand when shortstacked.But sometimes you have to push if the blinds are getting to big,you have no choice you have to get lucky.I love coming back from ashortstack and getting chips.Its all about timing and patience.Sometimes you hand wont hold up even if you go in with the best hand.I agree with Chris you dont need to play too mamy hands.When your a big stack you can gamble,its not easy when your middle stack because you worried youll lose alot of chips

[stefanswe]

Clonie looks good here

[beeryce88]

Clonie always looks good.

[stefanswe]

Yeah, you're right Buddy. But in this clip it's spectacular

[cardsfan82]

holy shit ur right, she looks absolutely incredible

[tryss]

lets bang her in the butt

[gilmatic6]

hellmuth= huge fag. least favourite player by far...

[MistressDolly1]

Shot 10 to 1.

[zibbyblahblah]

phils right here, always gotta get it in there with the best hand.

[stefanswe]

Yeah, too bad he doesn't take his own advice

[zibbyblahblah]

why is phil wearing sunglasses. thats so gay.

[superdave31]

i agree with herllmuth - the way i view it is - once you are out, you are then dead - but if you bet a small amount - you are at least still alive in the tournament

[rico305305]

how are annie duke and howard ledger siblings???

annie looks like an indian and howard looks as bright as white can be!

[nic08k28]

i like what mike said, phil won his 9 when there were 20 people playing.. hahaha..

[FOFPLAYER]

lol ferguson: stack stack stackaty stack stack stack stackker big stack short stack stackked stack stack :D

[pointfighter]

mike matusow is the coolest

[esco42085]

chris ferguson is the only one that knows what the hell hes talking about.

[ugonaeaturcornbread]

rofl'ing when mike says about hellmuth "yeah but you won 7 of them when there was like 20 ppl" haha.

you mean back in the day before there was online poker and when the world series only had real poker players like chan and brunson instead of the thousands of amateurs out there today?

[Shipoopi007]

CORRECT

[MachineManX51]

I love hearing anything Howard has to say. He's a very well spoken gentleman.

[Stickett]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[scat4u]

Why would you want Clonie to say anything at all? I muted her.

[JJDuques]

Clonie Gowen... say something

[rubberbuttbuster]

Man these guys are so tense around each other.

[high5en]

hahahahaha Mikes comeback at the end is priceless...