Gundam panel lining with thinned paint

[stuggit1]

I've had trouble witht the gundam markers ink going on my fingers and as well as an uneveness in the tone of the lines. Do you have problems like that when using this technique? ALso can you just use enamel paints? and thinner?

[WolfieLink1987]

a very good tutorial. thanks!

[captainRailgun]

Hay man I know this is an old cid but just wondering would this work on painted kits without the thinned paint sticking on the painted part and spoiling it???

[ulricwu]

Where did you get that paint thinner?

[captainRailgun]

@ulricwu Its a tamiya thinner so you can buy it in any model shop that sells tamiya paint.

[sytraxiplague]

Your videos are amazing. Perfect tutorial, but I believe your "Click Here For More!" link says "2 Odd 4 Toys"! Hahaha.

[gonaruto27]

does any1 kno which brand of paint is the best plz

[FMLRarshnarg]

Can somebody tell me what order they build their gundam models in? Do you put the decals and panel lines on top of the paint directly? Or do you put on a gloss top coat beforehand? And if I want my model to have a flat coat on top, can I apply flat coat directly on to the decals? Or should I apply a gloss coat first? I just need you to tell me the order you guys do these in because I don't want to ruin any of my models.

[mercybrkr]

@FMLRarshnarg Okay so here is what I do that works for mine. Get gundam paint markers. Cut the ;parts from the runners, paint the nib marks with the markers which blends perfectly with your series of gundam. Next I usually line it with ink markers. This method is possible too. Then Apply the decals. Then top coat. Dont worry as the top coat protects the decals. I use gloss then flat cos I don't want it to be too dull. But basically I don't really paint. I just touch up.

[mercybrkr]

So Cut, Touch up, Line, Decal, Top coat. I'd say 2-3 layers of top coat protects the lining and decal well. Thing is I coat every part so I need about 2 cans of top coat at least. Costly.

[TheSMRXCorp]

So I'm guessing the ink doesn't work with this method, right?

[5lomar]

NICE!



[K7TZ]

is there a diff between enamel thinner and paint thinner. i bought enamel and well lets just say NEVER use enamel on model kits ever again

[bigben3951]

what type of paint should i use?

[KeiUmeno]

will this still work even after u painted the kit?

[as0k0]

Thanks for the video tutorial! XD ...but one more thing, please help me! I cannot stop panelling my kits! >.<

[hull31]

i got a question do anyone know how tricked out an astrea HG i need some colours idea

[robotadventures]

doyou know how to make a wash?



[robotadventures]

so just paint thinner an paint... no water.

[PompousFlea]

Will this work if the model has already been painted with a flat enamel?

[SpiritsRise]

Do you have any advice on panel lining with a spray painted kit, like do you panel line before or after you put the paint on

[Fattrac]

great video, thanks for showing

[blackcomet1]

hey i was wonder. what was the name of the small dish you put the thinner in.

[espdkv420]

I tend to prime my models, than paint them with acrylic. Does this still work on painted models?

[RonLarhz]

if i use black will it be thinned till a greyish tone??

[mangajin1970]

@RonLarhz It would still be black. I recommend using a real grey to thin.

[RonLarhz]

@mangajin1970

oh ok.

btw is that normal gundam marker?ima gonna c which one is cheaper in the local shop,marker or paint xD

btw do u have any alternatives in doing the green clear GN thing on sd exia?i dun wanna buy paints jus for a small part,kinda waste cos i doubt i'll get more models since i have no place to put them...

[mangajin1970]

@RonLarhz If you are not intending on building up a supply of model paint, go with the Gundam marker. Definitely cheaper for your needs.

What sort of stuff are you going to do on the green clear GN thing? Panel line or touch up on the area where you cut from the runner?

[RonLarhz]

@mangajin1970

i mean getting the part in green or clear green since its white...i jus felt if i get a bottle of paint jus for this,its kinda waste and we dont have sharpies here..i tried with a (cheap) green marker the color came out weird compared when u use it on paper...its the correct green when on paper but when it dried on the marker its darn weird xD

if ima buy more models i guess it'll be ok but i dont see that in the near future XD

[mangajin1970]

@RonLarhz I saw other people video that they have used sample paint from Home Depot but I have never done that myself. The paint looked very thick (too thick for model in my opinion) and they will still cost you $2 ~$3 a bottle. Gundam marker will streak if you have to go over the piece in several passes and I don't believe they have clear green marker. One idea is talk to the people in the hobby store. Maybe a customer could help you out. Part of Hobby fun is to make new friends.

[RonLarhz]

@mangajin1970

i tot of getting acrylic paints from daiso but the staff there arent sure if they can be used on kits...>.<

[mangajin1970]

@mangajin1970 As for the best way I can think of for the GN drive piece. I would spray that piece with silver then clear green over it. But this involves airbrushing. Spray can paint, I know there are silver but not so sure if they have clear green. Again, talk to the people in the hobby store. You might be able to find someone who is willing to help. Hack, I would do it for you if you live near my city. ^_^

[bardpado]

Will this technique scratch off any paint in case the are you're panel lining is painted?

[mangajin1970]

@bardpado You might. I use a different method. I using lacquer (Mr. Color) paint for base coat. For panel line, I use Tamiya Enamel paint thinned down usng Enamel thinner or Vasol [wrong spelling]  Enamel thinned paint runs very quickly and dries quickly. This video suggests a 10 mins wait before cleanup work whereas I can get started on clean up almost as soon as I am done panel lining. Using cotton swap, you will need to wet it a tiny bit with thinner and lightly clean off the excess.

[TheSeasonman1]

nice tutorial thanks

[malmsteen2002]

wow! nice tech! gonna try it later....

[Deathofblades]

Usually I would recommend using a paint different from the paint you used to paint your model.

For example. Say like you use acrylic paint to paint your model but you want to panel line it. If you use acrylic thinner or lacquer thinner there is a chance that it can rub the paint off.

So most modelers use enamel paints and enamel thinner to do their washes and acrylic paints for painting the model because from experience we all know that acrylic paints can't mix with enamel paints.

[Illsteir]

Is lightly damping the cotton bud with thinner not recommended?

[JacobGPH]

0:37 what model kit is that?

[xXFalcon99Xx]

@JacobGPH Classic SD RX-78-2

[Armatige]

Did it with my Real Grade RX7 and it worked well. Just have to be careful that you do not stain the white plastic by using toooooo much :)

[edvill82]

any paint is good right? because your example you took some from gundam paint marker which i dont need to buy. lol. and i guess any store have the paint thinner. but what i'm eager to see with your nice technique is can you make (if theres no problem) a short video of you panel lining a smaller piece of gunpla. maybe the head?

[Xxninja195xX]

If I wanted to completely redo a color scheme on a gundam model,how would I go about doing so? what kind of paint should I use,what to use to paint it,etc.

[BladeZypher]

@Xxninja195xX not sure completely but look up vegeta8259. specifically his "lets build pg gundam rx-78" series. He does a few tutorials on painting in that. Hope it helps.

[Xxninja195xX]

@BladeZypher thanks

[BladeZypher]

@Xxninja195xX np

[Hux111]

The way you say "capillary action"

is awesome. Im sorry XD Your accent is perfect for tutorials haha

Keep these up, helped a lot, bro ;]

[faithinflex]

would using tamiya acrylic paint and thinner work since i painted my gundam with acrylic paint and the spray paint cans for plastic models?

[TheChasd]

u can use ink and just water

[jvn09211]

Have anyone tried this with a painted model and does it work /look good?

[TeaBubblez]

does this work if you already have a base coat on the whole entire plastic

[everymoss09]

2old4toys, can i paint robot damashii figures? like do panel lines? what markers do i need to use? or is painting or panel lining only for gun pla?

[Heatcrossexe]

ya...can you substitute the thinner with water?

[porlon2]

elo... can i substitue water instead of a thinner???

[potatochobit]

I know this works on clear plastic

but what if the panel is already painted

is the color going to come off due to the thinner and rubbing with the cotton swab?

[HelloKwak]

That's a great tutorial. I have a question though. what kind of paint did you use?

[thamid1]

@HelloKwak he used a gundam marker but you can use other paints

[imaqtlolz]

dont u love adhesion? :D

[skin9n]

All that smells GOOD!!!! *snniiiiiiifffffff*

[henritje19]

I can smell colors!

OP

does this also work with Revell paint and pain thinner?

(its the only paint stuff I have acces to on my budget)

[kawaihui]

I just did this to my Unicorn Gundam, it's awesome, thanks for the tips. It look really good, but it takes a long time to rub off the paint. (About 4 hours of rubbing, I guess) :)

[jeman3rd]

really??? is it that difficult to erase the excess paint???

[cilicon]

lol, if you try damping your cotton bud with thinner, the excess paint would rub off easily.

[SanakanfuckYT]

@kawaihui

Tip a little thinner, it will be remove the 'excess' ink on the surface part even u rub gently :) Enjoy.

[Fynniann]

@kawaihui What I do is I rub off the paint before its dry..

[GnomeSharkTOG]

i have pens that blot (wich were made specifically for panel lining )and you just put a dot and does the same thing as this

[acicon]

does this work if the thinner used is just alchohol?

[TWSFreedom2306]

I tried it, sometimes it works sometimes no. Mostly those paints will become lighter and lots of droplet of paints. Any ideas?

[TheLuqmanStudios]

Good thinking ojn using Gundam Marker.

[920306915003]

thanks for your lovely tips!

[gundamexia95]

will it be pernament after it dry

btw y the panel linning gundam marker dont seem to dry and will drop off easily

[unknown25deloser]

nids time to dry but once in contact with water disluted~

[cilicon]

it won't be permanent because you mix Paint Thinner with the Gundam Marker Paint.

panel lining gundam marker drops off easily because he put thinner inside. thinner makes it falls off easily.

[acicon]

nice tip, i'll try that sometime

[pattyboy1001]

around 5-6 inches

[16cameronm]

7 inches

[vizard674tracus]

HEY DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TALL 1/144 scale is in inchs some one write back if you know

[KPHeartMachine]

They depend on how tall the actual mobile suit was. Usually Mobile Suits are 18 Meters tall, making the 1/144 size about 4.5 inches. So they're about the size of an action figure. Though the HG 1/144 are way more detailed than any action figure you can buy for that price. 1/100's are about twice or three times as tall. and 1/60's are HUGE.

[00niicholzz18]

Mr. Toys, what's the best and easiest way to panel line over paint? Gundam Marker doesn't seem to work that nicely over paint.

[CrimsonKaiju]

I have a similar way of panel lining myself. I use black acrylic paint (AppleBarrel brand), paint on the panel lines, and use a tooth pick or Q-tip to scrape off the excess after it's dried. Someone on youtube has a video of this technique I think.

I haven't tried using any thinner though, as it's hard to find any here, but I may try that out. Thanks for the tips.

[AceDudeyeah]

Rubbing alcohol works too.

[00Jgundam00]

Thanks

[gundamexia95]

very useful thx u and look like rx-78-2

[Akatsuki030]

Useful tips that is^^

[00Jgundam00]

Thanks

[Deathscythehell85]

That is a very good tip, thanks.

: )

[00Jgundam00]

can use black gundam marker?

[Andehzarz]

he wanted to use grey, any color is fine.

[00Jgundam00]

100% must use grey?

[2Old4Toys]

Use whatever colour you want!

[Andehzarz]

As you can see he did say "FOR MY OWN PREFERENCES i like to use gray".

[AceDudeyeah]

@00Jgundam00

I've seen orange panel-lines combined with a camo scheme for great effect!

[Serp1313]

Yes. Any color.

[NagaTen]

Aaaaww... No paint thinner catching on fire? xD

Just kidding. That'd ACTUALLY be dangerous. Nice vid mate.

[Reazard]

WOW , i learned a new trick , thanks !

[rerhyme]

I was watching something like this in japanese....I think you solved what I was wondering about...thanks

[benbis81]

Great tip 2Old

[onikuy]

wha planning to to same video for my first time

[notaphaser]

oh wow, this is impressive stuff sir. I know I never would've thought of trying this on my own.

Maybe this is something to test on the 1/144 Victory Gundam kit I have coming, see if I like it enough to use it on the better quality kits....

Thanks so much sir.

[yoplox]

.i think you should use enamel thinner .. for this paint wash technique for panel lines.. if you are panel line-ing parts with base coat ,your thinner might wipe it away. by the way.. good job.. but your panel line is not clean enough.. try apply some enamel thinner on your cotton bud .. And please reply me because you never reply me before..

[iam2old4toys]

I'd say most of my audience don't do any painting besides a little detailing using the paint markers. Most probably they'd panel line with ink pens directly onto unpainted plastic. This is a quick video just to let them know an alternative technique using paint from an old Gundam paint marker. Panel lining on painted surfaces is more advanced and will be covered in another tutorial.

[yoplox]

true. ..Fast , clean and easy

[yoplox]

but your panel line-ing..is not clean enough.. By the way.. you used thinner to wipe it off?

[dtzydtzy]

use thinner and it will most likely wreck your panel lines.

just dry cloth or what he used in the vid

[yoplox]

no... it wont... Not industrial thinner.. Hobby thinner..

[spdrcd]

thank you very much...it helped a lot for me.

[slzkilla]

next canu make how to paint the whole gundam cuz the markers arent working very well and they run outa ink realllllllyyyy fast T_T

[Slaughter619]

ahha! another time saver from Mr toys! thnx man! ^__^

[kimimarobonez]

I've heard of this technique but never actually saw it in action.

Seeing as how easy it is, I'll try it now. Thanks man!

[weavernutz22]

enamel paint with water works just as good, especially if you have already painted the model with acrylic paint. just 1 part paint to10 part water.

[Depapepe98]

Also, you can lighter fluid excess panel lines,

[Depapepe98]

This technique is called "Wash".

[stryderprime]

Now thats a very good example! I remember doing something like that on HG Sazabi but your way is way better then what I did. Can't wait to try it!

[AceDudeyeah]

haha, stryder, how is what you did different from 2old's?

[CRUCIATUS909]

awsome!!!!!

[TommyTheToyReviewer]

wow, much eaiser than the panel line gundam marker, 5 stars

[AlteisenNacht]

DUDE!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

that tip will help me out alot

[Skiwiddle]

ONE WORD EXPLAINS IT ALL, genius......

[SkyTitanGod]

i do it exactly this way, I like the thinner lines, but the problem is that they are not as strong, also, I accidently forgot to rub it away soon after, so that sucked.

[cHiKaDiNg58]

Yeah that how I do it too! It's quicker but hard to control.

[AzNsEnSaT1oN]

wow, nice tip, way more efficient than actually panel lining

[navigatorhat]

Top Stuff. Never thought Gundam marker could be used as a source for paint :)

[iam2old4toys]

Don't need much paint. I like tips that make use of old stuff I have lying around. Also, the grey paint marker is one that most of viewers will likely have at hand. Mine saw heavy action about 10 years ago and still had reserves to line what I wanted on my SD RX-78-2 preparing him for it's talky review. Ended up making this quickie tutorial in the process.

[godfather3839]

thanks helped alot

[ME109G3ZAKU]

isnt that "back board" from the pg mark 2?

[Yukikazehalo]

the hanger looking thing? its called a "Mechanical Chain Base", Kotobukiya makes a whole line of them.

[ME109G3ZAKU]

ah i see

[zaraki888]

Wow, I never thought about that. It looks easier. And very important, it looks a lot better and it's great. Fantastic 2Old4Toys, thank you.

[coldnova]

Thanks for the Tutorial! After watching this i tried a similar process using a brown water based "wash" paint specifically designed for this kind of thing and got similar results. Did my whole GM Powered and it looks beut. Thanks for the inspiration!

[NinjaArt99]

what are those little silver pot things you have there? might need some

[AceDudeyeah]

You got any prescription meds? Use the caps of empty bottles.

[anovasinn]

cool tut :-)

[cocorain123]

can you use a little water instead of thinner?

[jkdarlow]

no you cant, simple white spirit works fine in my experience, and is normally cheaper then name brand thinners

[navigatorhat]

White spirit ate my first painted model :(

[navigatorhat]

Water isn't as good as thinner since it takes longer to dry, may not dilute the paint properly and has a surface tension (that causes beads and bubbles!).

[AceDudeyeah]

Rubbing alcohol.

[00Jgundam00]

great idea,thanks

[AdamDMurray]

do you need to dip the cotton bud in the thinner??

[2Old4Toys]

No. Just be careful if you do that, you risk accidentally wiping out the lines too. Especially with shallow ones. With a dry cotton bud you are pretty safe.

[godred01]

Thanks for the advice, i may use this method to paint in the 2 lines on the gundams mouth piece :)

[crapmunky99]

I'm surprised. I figured the paint would be too dry to remove in 10 minutes without thinner. Glad to know that's not the case. However, doesn't the excess smear around the part at all? And how well would this work on an already painted part?

[97144967]

if u use it on already painted parts make sure its not the same kind of paint. so for example i paint my kits with acrylic them i do the panel lines in enable, this way the colors will not blend. it smears a bit at first but after going over it again it usually comes off just leaving the panel line. Also if u are going to do this on a painted kit make sure u dippen the panel lines before u paint or prime.

[crapmunky99]

I see. That's all very helpful, thanks. ^_^

[iam2old4toys]

Good question. You have to take into account what the paint type is already on the kit's surface...  use the opposite for the "wash". Clearly if you painted the kit with acrylic and then washed with acrylic thinner... You'd likely be stripping paint.

[crapmunky99]

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

[destinygundam2600]

Wow thanks for the tip 2old4toys now i can panel line my models without using a thin point pen thanks dude this helped me lots 5/5

[NeuesZiel]

Gundam Markers are acrylic based? Did not know that. Great Video for those who are looking for a great way to spruce up they're unpainted gunpla.

[chaoschronozero]

amazing basics tutorial, with the influx of all the guys who like 00. You get some pretty shitty models. So thanks for the help on improving the newbies :)

[chris123456789999999]

lol cool