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  • Your vid went viral on Asmara

  • @mindnumber9 What are examples of the Bible being the foundation of modern society? What about the countries that are mostly Atheist? What are they built on. America is built on the Bibles foundation because you've been slowly corrupted since the 50's to believe God is on your side. What is "scientific language" and what parts of the bible, the "quite a bit" that science has taken from? Maybe as a "What not to do" for science? I dunno, you tell me expert.

  • @ajhrockerboy6 You're mostly ignorant, but hell and heaven don't exist. Sorry. If God says Hell exists, why does it not? Because the second revised Bible said so? Lol. Also, God specifically mentions Apostasy as an unforgivable sin you are going to hell for, so I would be going to hell if it, God, or heaven existed. So again, ignorance.

  • geez nice vid.

  • YES 

  • Matt, it's SIX YEARS, not SEVEN you moronic prick!

  • Of course we are more moral than the biblical god; because we(humans) actually exist. ;O)

    Katalyzt

  • to the best of my knowledge, the bible is a mixture of BOTH divinity & human politics. where the divine truth IS... ACCEPT that much.

    take a look around; the world is literally BUILT on the bible (known as the living word of god, or the living book).

    some passages can be translated into common language and even into scientific language. in fact, science learns QUITE A BIT from the bible, it just doesn't credit the source.

  • For decades Christians kept slaves in the America/ the States and elsewhere in the world. It was purely secular ideas/discourse that made them change their attitudes, first in GB and then in the US.

  • For decades Christians kept slaves in the America/ the States and elsewhere in the world.

  • A warning to everyone reading this: @1tabligh copy-pastes everything he says from a very biased islamic website. Everything he says isn't his own thoughts. He just goes around on mutiple videos (dozens) and copy-pastes the same sentences in the comments section of all of them. Do not bother taking him seriously or starting a discussion with him. It leads nowhere. And the stuff he does post is full of logical fallacies anyways.

  • Yall have to ask yourselves, whose defining morality? These mere mortals or the almighty God? Just because slavery is in the bible does not mean that God promoted it, God just sits back and lets humans destroy themselves and their own communities. So please don't blame God for mans ignorance. Yes God could stop it if he wanted to, but God wants to see the true you, when you kill, steal, and murder as well as other sins you are showing what's inside of your heart.

  • @chica0616 why would a being that "knows everything" need to test a guy to see what he is going to do. God knows all right? He should already have his answer as to what a given person will do, why then let the suffering continue? Slavery is more than just acknowledged in the bible, it is a sanctioned, structured practice. Even Jesus never came out against slavery, he only told slaves to do as they were told. In fact I can't remember anyone in the bible coming out against slavery.

  • i am so much more happy thinking my dead loved ones and myself will go to heaven rather than are just dead and decaying. I'm not a radical christian. I'm christian-lutheran. I go to a normal christian church easter and christmas with my family whom i love, but i am happy and have my beliefs and religion a personal thing. I like getting in religious conversations with people CALMLY. I don't believe in the old testament. I do in the new testament. I think everyone should read the new test with an

  • open mind. most of it is METAPHORS. interpret it in your own way. hopefully you get happier

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  • @codyaustinpemberton

    Morality comes from society, not religion. Sorry.

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  • If someone proved to me that this Christian God is real, than I'd be bothered that he's REAL and not doing anything. Edward Current said that, 'God's real! He's so perfect he's perfected the hiding of his existence!'

  • It is very easy to be more moral than the god of the new testament, and well as for the god the god of the ole, what a twisted fucker.

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  • @codyaustinpemberton

    Using god as a standard for morality is ridiculous, his war crimes significantly exceed that of Hitler.

    God is not needed as a stnadrad bby which to judge morality... it is a social zeitgeist norm. We set our own standards of morality as deined by the social conscious. God not required (thank god for that!)

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  • @codyaustinpemberton

    Would that be acceptable in the social conscious of the society within which you reside? If so, then yes, it would be acceptable, if not, then no, it would not be acceptable. Man was making rules of behaviour on how to live together long before "god" came along.

  • @codyaustinpemberton Do you need to be told by an imaginary friend that it's wrong to kill and steal? I know i don't, that's common sense.

  • @codyaustinpemberton your religion has warped your mind. You really need to reevaluate your position. 

  • @tavo5150 Without doubt, one of the factors in the emergence of anti-religious ideas and a phalanx of deniers of God, has been the false teachings, the inadequacies and the intellectual perversions of the followers of some religions. The peculiarities and separate characteristics of each religion must, therefore, be individually examined when studying the reasons that have led men to adhere to that religion.

  • Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?

  • @codyaustinpemberton wrong, society frowns on that, standard by the way. however as a christian me coming to your house and killing you is the same as me telling you im not a male. every sin is equal in gods eyes. also, its nothing majorly wrong with that since i could indeed kill you and youre entire family, rape every one of them, and then eat each of them, then ask jesus for forgiveness and id get it. THATS the difference.

  • Which god?

  • Why should we question or be skeptical of absolute truth or absolute morality??? Is not gravity absolute truth? The idea that "whats true for me is not true for you" is absurd. These people know just enough about the Bible & God to be dangerous. God says "My thoughts are not your thoughts. My ways are not your ways."

  • Not really, if it could be scientifically proven that pixies used magic to pull things downwards we'd accept that rather than gravity. In science their are no absolute truths, as our understanding increases scientific principles change.

  • My point is that we all exist on the basis of certain truths. We dont jump off tall buildings b/c of the truth of gravity. We do fly in airplanes b/c of the truth of areodynamics. And certain truths exist in relationships like loyalty, honesty & forgiveness. There are truths in everything. We exist by truths. The same is true w/ spiritual truths.

  • I dont accept that, in science their are laws and theories, a law is an observation of naturalistic phenomona, a theory is the explaination of the mechanisms by which a scientifc law work.

    I object to the use of the word truths in this context because it assumes universality and immutability, if you went into space you'd find gravity no longer applies thefore its not universal, futher its possible though unlikely the gravity could cease tomorrow, therefore its not immutable.

  • Do you accept the truth that everyone will eventually die?

  • Unless we find a way to stop the aging process and a way to prevent the sun from super nova'ing probably. Its still not a truth because we may because humans may find a way to overcome death.

  • What do you believe happens to a person after they die?

  • I dont know, i've never died.

  • Do you consider yourself an atheist (do not believe in God) or an agnostic (not sure if there is a God)?

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  • I consider myself an agnostic athiest, although i cannot definitively prove that God does not exist i believe that the case for such a god has not been made. Unless god can be proven empirically the claim that god exists holds no more weight to me than the claim that Santa or the tooth fairy exists.

  • Santa brings gifts at Christmas, a toothfairy puts money under your pillow VS. the existence of God. Is it safe to say that the consequences of not believing in Santa, or the tooth fairy could be very different than the consequesnces of not believing in a supposed God? I mean what it God does exist? Wouldn't that change the way you thought about life & death?

  • What if Allah exists? What if Baal exists? What if Xenu exists? If any of the above did exist what would that mean for you. Your god is no more or less probable than any of those gods but you reject them offhand in favor of the christian god? Why dont you believe in all of them?

  • The fact that I believe in the God of the Bible, means I cannot believe in those other gods. I choose to believe in & worship the God of the Bible b/c of my own inner knowledge of God, my personal conscience, the validity of the Bible, and my own personal faith in Him.

  • @GODSGRL27, when you were put to the question about what would it mean for you if you considered the existence of Allah, Baal, or Xenu, you weren't even able to answer the question. But you are able to pose the same question towards other people. You are using what is called Pascal's Wager, which has been completely deconstructed several thousands of times.

  • I will answer this. I will not serve any other God than the God of the Bible, because He is the One Who has died on the cross, taking my shame & my sin on Himself. No other god has done what He has done, no other god is offering me what He is offering, no other god has been so real in my life.

  • IF God exists, he is nothing like the bible or any "holy" book claims he is. And if he is like the bible describes him, ill take hell over heaven, cuz God sucks bigtime

  • I dont think you really mean that. No one wants to go to hell..... no one.

  • Well depends what do you mean with "wanting to go to hell". I don't want to go to hell, but i would choose it over heaven, that's all im saying. Eternal worshiping of some deluded evil god? HELL NO!

  • oh look its a girl who has a crush on god and is 27 yrs old

    i must be god if i knew that... ZING THURR

  • @wHisperis001 hell is gonna be a party! hahaa no one wants to hang out with god, cuz hes kind of a dick.

  • @wHisperis001 Biblical vision is methaporicly and its incorrect,if you ask me , for me God is beyond the words,but in one way its everything,and in another some creative force,but again I will tell you that God is beyond time,space,words.we humans are limited to 3D reality and limited with our consciousness and thinking,TV,News,all lies all some propaganda what you have to think,to say,this sistem itself is bad,very bad and wrong for all this bad stuf.Masonic orders put incorect version of god

  • @MrGlape Well then you're a deist, and that's ok

  • @wHisperis001 well Im glad you didnt attacked me cuz I give my honest,humble vision and version of god,hehe,and Im glad you did understand me what I want to say.Respect,salute

  • @wHisperis001 i with you there he may be more vile than satan him self

  • @wHisperis001 HELL DOESN'T EXIST MORON. HELL IS THE BIGGEST JOKE EVER. GOD STILL LIVES ON WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN HIM OR NOT. WE'RE ALL DESTINED FOR HEAVEN. SO STOP TALKING SMACK ABOUT GOD.

  • @ajhrockerboy6 OMG CAPS IS SO FUCKING ESSENTIAL TO GET YOUR POINT ACROSS BUT ACTUALLY IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A FUCKING DOUCHEBAG, I DONT GET IT WHY BUT IT'S ALWAYS PISSED OFF RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO DO IT. OH AND I NEVER SAID THAT HELL DOES EXIST YOU FUCKING IDIOT, LEARN TO READ COMMENTS AND THEN RESPOND AND FUCK YOU AND YOUR IMAGINARY GOD, CAPISCI?

  • @wHisperis001 GO FUCK YOURSELF.

  • @GODSGRL27, Look at it this way, atheists closed the door on religion and locked it. The key is evidence. Religious people have bricked up their door permanantly and shut themselves inside, the mortar and brick that seals them in is their faith. Blinding them to the outside possibilities.

    Atheists at our true heart don't believe in FAITH. Since that is the only way god can be believed right now, then god falls under it, obviously. So remember that, its that we don't believe in faith.

  • Maybe atheists have closed the door on religion & locked it. But I am not talking about religion, I am talking about a personal realtionship with a loving Saviour, Who gave His life on a cross because He caould not bear the thought of being without you for all of eternity. And I do not believe faith is the ONLY way to believe in God. There is significant evidence if you are interested.

  • I do not think you ken the term "atheism" completely. However, we can examine god claims, and christianity's have failed. Therefore, what they call their belief is irrelevant.

  • Do you have proof that the God claims of Christianity have failed?

  • yes.

  • @TheFearmonger ok what are they?

  • @GODSGRL27 do i really have to debunk christianity for you in the youtube comments section? google the flood, the atrocities committed in the bible, the creation story, the various places where jesus sins, and such. But, looking at other posts you have made, it is obvious you do not rely on anything reasonable to make your claims, so you will be able to dismiss these in some way.

  • @TheFearmonger ok just tell me what you believe then.

  • @GODSGRL27 i believe in things that have evidence. However, your question is vague.  Any way to elucidate?

  • @TheFearmonger What if you were presented with evidence for the existence of the God of the Bible? Would anything change for you personally?

  • @GODSGRL27 yes, then he would be a evil atrocious god that exists.

  • @TheFearmonger why would God be evil or atrocious?

  • @GODSGRL27 Have you read the bible? If not, don't fret christian, lots haven't. But i would encourage study, especially leviticus, genesis, deuteronomy, exodus, joshua, etc., and you will see such things as slavery, cannibalism, genocide, unfair punishment, murder, and people being tempted to sin, all in the name of the one true living holy, everloving god.

  • @TheFearmonger Can you show me verses where these things were acceptable in the sight of God? Just b/c the Bible contains accounts of mans activity does not mean these things are ok in God's sight. No man can ever say when he is tempted, he is tempted by God- never.

  • "Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

  • @itonlyhappens actually Ezekiel chapters 8-11 are a vision the prophet Ezekiel had. It was more like a warning of what could happen if God's people did not repent. it was sort of like an "ebenezer scrooge" moment for Ezekiel. God was showing him this vision, so he could warn the people.

  • @GODSGRL27 "And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead." Exodus 12:29-30

  • @itonlyhappens Hmmm, no responses for over a month? Guess that shut her up!

  • @GODSGRL27

    Decomposing biomatter isn't a 'person'.

  • You're right. The body isnt the person.

  • The same thing that happens to a person before they are born.

  • ive debated with so many christians. when i pointed out all the murder killing and rape and asked for his opionion on that he said that i had no right to even ask or question becuase i have "no moral standard or ethics." he said over and over that i had to have some kind of authority to tell me that murder was indeed. wrong. he kept asking me, who says its wrong? i contend that i dont need an authority to tell me that killing someone is wrong but i was sure as to how to respond to him.

  • morality is innate to each person, it doesnt require an outside authority to tell us what to do. i think its insulting that christians claim we are unable to make moral decisions on our own, as if we're all somehow mentally deficient or too primitive. morality developed through evolution. its in a group's interests to be good and help each other out, and when this happens, the group and morality prosper.

  • Actually, Religion, specifically Christianity, provided a lot of motivation for abolitionists in America. Let's not ignore history. and this is from an atheist.

  • And who with scripture on their side were pro-slavery?

    The Bible says nothing about the abolition of slavery but gives plenty of justification for keeping slaves.

    Justification for abolition did not come from scripture and thus cannot be credited to Christianity. Christians that fought slavery did so for secular reasons even if they didnt know it.

    Of course Christians love to claim credit for such acheivements in the name of thier religion.

  • @artyfarty2

    Not to mention that there were christians of BOTH sides.

  • @artyfarty2 Exodus 21:16

    And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

  • god is a being of fiction who is evil not only does he want people to have slaves

    he want's to inslave all man kind

  • That "might" be ( is ) true, but it still is something no proud religious person will ever admit. It's kinda like forcing a thief to admit he stole something from someone. It is almost impossible to force the thief to admit he has done wrong, even when he did it from his own free will. ( or despite the fact he did it from his own free will ).

  • Just because a caller hung up the phone doesn't instantly mean she disagreed with him.

  • Yes, you may be right. But people still have the right to speculate what motivates others to do things. And, in this particular case, the caller may have hung up for that particular motive. And I repeat, may have.

  • There's that stuff about science being tentative proof again, this time in the mouth of Matt Dillahunty. Do you really think that electronic engineering is possible based on a TENTATIVE understanding of physical systems ? Certainly there are physical systems which are imperfectly understood, but there are plenty of others which are known to so many fractions of a percentage point it should amaze you.

  • i agree with that. i'm pretty sure that every physical system is imperfectly understood at least a little, since it requires that we impose onto it some kind of model that lets our brains work with the concept. but it is amazing how close we can get.

  • Model building is an interesting view of scientific method. I have always viewed it more as developing process, but I see your point, a model can incorporate dynamism. In many physical systems it is very much about chasing fractions down a rabbit hole. The scientific project is only 4 centuries old, and it has made enormous gains. I wonder if there will ever be a new mental shift to rival it ? Jettisoning religion is certainly a good start.

  • The key words being "known to so many fractions of a percentage point" Not absolutely known. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you completely, but the point he was making is that science doesn't deal with absolute truths like religion does, it deals with probabilistic truths. Which in areas like physical systems, we have an extremely accurate knowledge, but not an absolute one. Which I think is a good thing.

  • But philosophically speaking, an absolute truth is meaningless. Any concept which can be applied equally to everything has no real means of reference and therefore is as meaningful as a concept which applies to nothing. It's basic Boolean logic.

  • On that point I'd have to say we agree. However, many many theists claim they DO possess absolute truths, and that these truths are VERY meaningful. lol.

  • That may be so, however, as usual, they are in desperate logical error.

  • Then we agree! :D

  • No problem, rating given, top vid as usual

  • matt has to be one of the best hosts ever

  • ^ If a master kills his slave he is to be punished.

    But if he hits him nonlethally its fine.

    Whats wrong with that? Hell thats how it is today. A mother cant kill her child but she can beat his ass.

  • That's a bit different. It's a form of punishment, and it's not as bad. ^.^ I was spanked, and i'm not resentful for it.

  • Yeah, but it's frowned upon, and if she beats her child to literally within an inch of his life, we tend to lock the mother up and throw away the key, and the the bible says it's a-ok.

    It even says that if the slave dies a result of a beating, it's ok as long as it took a couple of days to kill him, so no biggie if you want to kill your slave, just cut him up and rub pigshit in his wounds, give it a couple of days and presto, dead slave with no repercussions.

  • Did you just advocate the beating of not only slaves but children also?

  • not in great britain, if she leaves a harsh mark (as in a little red here)that is illegal and she is punished

  • That's an outright untruth, the bible actually describes the way to mark your slave, and now severely you may beat them.

    Exodus 21:20-21 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money [property]."

  • That's completely, completely wrong. Leviticus 25 and 45-46 state clearly the full-time ownership of human beings. The only race that doesn't have that (Hey, wait, racial bigotry?) are the Hebrews, and they work for 6 years.

  • What you're talking about is an indentured servitude. Slavery, even in the bible, is still very much slavery. It's the owning of another human being. Most noted in the book of Moses speaking of the Jews in Egypt, which btw there is no secular evidence of any kind that Jews were ever in Egypt, which kind of debunks the whole Moses story to begin with, but I digress. If you believe the Moses story, slaves are still slaves.

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  • god cares enough not to kick us around but not enough to stop us from kicking ourselves around.

    and im VERY glad you included the facts that people see things in different ways according to environments

  • That's a bit true clubsoda69..

    Problem is that God isn't really falsifiable. Even though I don't believe in God, since I'm have a boner for logic, I simple CAN'T say "God doesn't exist and he didn't create the world". Maybe God even created the world to make it look like he didn't. Ever thought of that? Huh? Huh?!

  • You should equally believe that gremlins/gnomes/dwarves/elves/­any mythical creature, god, etc. is as believable as the christian god under that notion.

  • You should believe more as well club. After all, unicorns have as much proof as God does. You shouldn't rule out 100% that unicorns don't exist.

  • The God-hypothesis should stand on it's own merits, or else you should just reject the hypothesis hands down. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof, or else Occams Razor rules your day!

  • okay.

  • Because science is based on evidence not faith that what you believe is absolutly true. If new evidence is found the theory changes.

  • Because there is evidence for it.

  • You obviously learned how to read and right, so it appears you don't even agree with your own statement. Unless of course you are not ok with learning new things . . . . .

  • Just because science changes doesn't make it wrong. Religion is rather rigid (although the church is getting friendlier to gays where I live), and doesn't change at all.

    One of the WORST logical fallacies you can make is assuming that admitting you're wrong or saying "hey, I guess this doesn't make sense" is bad. Quite the opposite, admitting you're wrong is the _best_ thing you can do. That means you can admit when you're wrong, and that you're constantly challenging your opinions.

  • Jenny is a Babe!

  • Yes! I'm not the only one who thinks that!

  • "you will all see one day"

    That you are delusional and mentally retarded?

  • bro dont even bother with these losers they are so desperate and so lost they have deluded themselves with this garbage they search for anything that they can manipulate to work for them ... shake the dust off your sandels

  • The only manipulating comes from your side.

  • I could say the same thing to you, threedaysgrace. When you die and everything goes black forever. Don't fear it. Live your life while you are able. ^___^

  • GOD is the Ultimate Atheist I'am the Ultimate Atheist Im just playing the Ultimate Game what do you think all this is and how it's all possble what religious people beleave is the little lie becoze a lie is easer to beleave then the Truth only the good and religious are not the good 75% of prisoners are religious and only 2% of prisoners are Atheists so who's better religious or Atheists.. only the Atheists will be saved not the religious

  • i agree with Arrada101. that is in the bible

  • nevermind. i dnt agree with him.

  • What denomination are you if I may ask? Also do you believe the bible is the literal word of God?

  • i do think that the bible is the literal word of God.

  • So how do you get by the immorality of god? Isn't slavery immoral? Shouldn't all beings condemn such actions? Do you believe human sacrifice is immoral? Do you believe that sometimes a lie can be moral?

  • if slavery was once moral and now longer is then youre pretty much proving that man creates moral law and there are no unversal morals

  • Christians believe that if you dont have faith in god, you will simply go to hell for eternal damnation. You have to believe in god, or else.

  • before 2000 years.. lived people.. all went to hell..??

    All childen.. under 5~6 year(can not know about god).. all doing hell..??

    you born from your Mon as not knowing about god.

    so, you are son of hell (satan).. right..??

  • true groundhog but you will go to heaven because you do beleive in god unless you are the devil are you the devil?

  • The devil believes in god, lol what a dumb statement :P

  • lol you're an idiot. Satan was in heaven and he knew god before he was cast out. Everyone in hell believes in god, but they are burning forever. You can believe in god you fool and commit the most evil crimes imaginable. And for you, wishing people to go to hell... you are an asshole who deserves it far worse than me, telling the truth. Satah knows god, why do you think he tempts man away from him? Grow up you fool.

  • What truth are you telling?There's a Satan and a God?You met both before have you?I think you should heed your own words and grow up.How do you know there are people burning in Hell?If there is a Hell how do you know people aren't partying down there and what not?If i'm Satan and I live down there which by the way down is always colder then up.Go to your basement or cellar and find out for yourself,if i'm Satan wouldn't I want a nice cozy pad to rest my feet?

  • first off, prick, i wasn't even talking to you. I was talking to some douche who came in here claiming that atheists dont believe in god and satan doesnt believe in god. If he is going go talk about a religion he knows nothing about, then i will correct him. You are trying to join an arguement that has already been settled. I don't know if there are people burning in hell, in fact i dont believe in hell, but i do believe in knowledge, the knowledge that fuckass didnt have. Now fuck off. ;D

  • I love you you assume i am a christian. really funny actually. I was telling a punk kid who wished someone to burn in hell because they were right and he was wrong. You need to grow up and learn to fight your own fights and learn to look at someone's profile before writing any assumption about someones religious preferences or beliefs.

  • i got news for you satan is my father

  • krayzie... You're a joke.

  • anyone who accepts me as god will be saved anyone who doesnt will go to hell

  • I'll have the one year plan please

  • Sign me up for the 2 year recurring subscription, and charge it to visa, let those fuckers pay it.

  • Satan was seprated from God and heaven for actually believing he was better than God!!!! SO how could satan not have belief in God if he didn't think he was better than him. Furthermre, before he was seperated from God, satan was LOVED by God... SO before you go calling anyone any names, get familiar with scripture.

  • See, look how these little christians react to intelligents. "You dumb bitch" Ouch, kinda agressive isn't it. The bible DOES condone slavery, and he condones Racism to.

    Go fuck yourself you fuck up, In fact, i feel like sinning right now. PEACE

  • Actually you are wrong to the devil God never existed he was not real He only controlled the universe

  • Those were different times, 2000 years ago. You can't judge God by today's moral standards. He didn't know any better back then. ;)

  • ROFL, awesome

  • Excellent video! Just stumbled on you guys, and I'm glad I did! Keep it up.

  • Another awesome video. Where can I find the rest of your shows, is there a website or youtube channel perhaps?

  • Many videos reveal a lot of "secret" information in the sidebar. ;-)

  • Google Video has an impressive collection of complete shows.

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