Are people who want Fair Tax bad at math? A 30% Sales Tax on top of a state tax is not some great idea. Fair Taxers are so naive. They think businesses will hand over all their money saved back to you? Ha! Don't count on it. I've heard the crap arguements. You won't pay taxes if you don't buy stuff? So I'm supposed to eat air, wear air, drive air to work? Live in an air house? WTF!! An economy based on NOT buying stuff? We have that now it's called a recession. Hello? unemployment FairTaxer?
The Fair Tax needs to accompany a balanced budget amendment and term limits.
The fair tax is the most reasonable approach to bringing in the same amount of revenue but FAIRLY and more importantly with greatly reduced corruption.
Anyone that truly researches the fair tax will realize its a NO BRAINER.
BTW, Nancy Pelosi herself actually supported it and begged president Bush to support it in a non-partisan effort on Nov 15th, 2004 in a letter. Once she got in power. no more.
Im not a fan at all of the FairTax as it is proposed by some Republicans and Neal Boortz...but, I cant recall hearing Snitker ever saying that he supported this proposal or supporting a 30% tax...please enlighten me if he has.
I know he supports a "fair tax" but not necssarily the proposed "Fair Tax Act"
Hell, i'd support a fair tax if our governments size was reduced by +80% and the Federal Reserve were abolished; but as the size sits today...i support Secession, fuck taxes.
The FairTax will eliminate some $250 billion in wasted overhead costs. Illegals and criminals will finally contribute to the federal government. Yet the poverty level poor will completely be untaxed due to the prebate. The only loosers with the FairTax are politicians and the lobbyists who influence them. Let's make it happen.
This bogus add totally distorts and misrepresents the FairTax bill. The only way to get government back to work and the IRS off our back is to replace the current tax code that benefits only career politicians on both sides of the aisle and their special interests. Anyone campaigning against the FairTax or any of its supporters is most likely already bought and paid for by someone on K street.
Whoever made this is an suffering from the I D 10 T error or something. Libertarians that want to vote in support of the sales tax want to do so in conjunction with repealing the federal income tax. THUS LOWERING YOUR TAXES. Give me your pay pal account so I can send you money to buy a clue. Oh, and btw, any Veteran such as myself would tell you that you can't make it illegal to burn a flag..... because burning or burying them is how you retire a torn, worn out flag.
Whoever made this is an suffering from the I D 10 T error or something. Libertarians that want to vote in support of the sales tax want to do so in conjunction with repealing the federal income tax. THUS LOWERING YOUR TAXES. Give me your pay pal account so I can send you money to buy a clue.
Prices will not rise with the FairTax. When the income tax is removed, prices will drop due to competition. This has always happened in the past. Ask any economics student. Profits stay steady at 5 to 8 percent. That's the beauty of capitalism. The poor will pay no taxes, due to the prebate. MORE people will be paying taxes because illegals and criminals will be contributing the the tax collection. Think about it. 250 billion dollars will be eliminated from the collection overhead.
You people are so pathetic! You can't beat him with honesty and issues you have to sink to trying to discredit him locked away in your dark closets using cheap tactics and snipets of words to make him say what you want him to say! You just can't handle someone going up to Washingtion to clean our the corruption! IF PEOPLE LISTEN TO THIS GARBAGE; concerning a man who is a US Marine Veteran willing to sacrifice again to serve his country, then you deserve the garbage DC vomits!
You people are so pathetic! You can't beat him with honesty and issues you have to sink to trying to discredit him locked away in your dark closets using cheap tactics and snipets of words to make him say what you want him to say! You just can't handle someone going up to Washingtion to clean our the corruption! IF PEOPLE LISTEN TO THIS GARBAGE; concerning a man who is a US Marine Veteran willing to sacrifice again to serve his country, then you deserve the garbage DC vomits!
It's guys like Snitker that will ensure that the Libertarian Party will actually achieve our goals of Constitutional government and real economic and personal liberty. However, it's guys like YOU that seem to want to make sure that the LP is nothing more than an impotent debate club. I'm so very impressed that you've read Friedman, Boaz, Rand, etc., but isn't it time we took action instead of just sitting around complaining to each other? Snitker is the best thing to ever happen to the LPF.
It is false to say the FairTax would abolish the IRS and the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
It would take three quarters of the states to ratify a repeal. Unlikely considering we can't get the Equal Rights Amendment (liberal) or Flag Burning Amendment (conservative) passed so chances are it won't be repealed.
@SpotFakeLibertarians : Well, you've got a point there. The FairTax is a major change in the way we colelct revenue for the government. It might have to be done in stages. Maybe the first stage is to ADD the VAT, and THEN delete the income tax, and then simplify the VAT into the FairTax. Another way might be to change to the Flat Tax, and a decade later switch it over to flat on consumption instead of income. We'll see.
@SpotFakeLibertarians : Well, you've got a point there. The FairTax is a major change in the way we collect revenue for the government. It might have to be done in stages. Maybe the first stage is to ADD the VAT, and THEN delete the income tax, and then simplify the VAT into the FairTax. Another way might be to change to the Flat Tax, and a decade later switch it over to flat on consumption instead of income. We'll see.
At snitker2010(dot)com under Issues - Taxation and Spending, Alex Snitker says, "I propose the FairTax in place of the income tax and all payroll based taxes, including Social Security tax, payroll tax, corporate income tax, etc. This would abolish the IRS and the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. More Americans not only have jobs, but also are allowed to keep their entire paychecks. In its place would be a consumption tax and a monthly rebate to cover the taxes up to the poverty level."
Standard demagoguery by people who don't understand the consumption tax. This vid is a waste of time, unless you are among the many who demand to remain uninformed..
The proof is in the video. Alex Snitker promoting a "consumption tax" aka the FairTax. If you want more proof go to Alex Snitker's website. Also the Libertarian Party website--they do NOT promote the FairTax at all. You must haved failed math if you don't get that a 30% consumption tax is MORE tax on top of state taxes and EVERYDAY of the year on EVERY purchase. But there would still be an income tax also. The 16th Amendment would need to be repealed. That is next to impossible to do.
@PatEWilliams Uhm no, this replaces the taxes. This doesn't add to them. The more shit you buy, the more taxes you pay. If you cannot afford to buy things, then you prob cannot afford to be taxed. SIMPLE idea here people. WAKE UP, think for yourself and RESEARCH. Jeesh....you people crack me up, keep trying globalist sheep.
@PatEWilliams Uhm... you don't really want to get into parties making inappropriate statements do you? We can tube it out for days with the Dem/ Rep sheep in D.C. and elsewhere saying ignorant sick things about people.
Alex Snitker is not a real Libertarian if he promotes any taxes. The Fair Tax is a GOP creation to shift taxes not eliminate them. I'm not wasting my vote. I going with Charlie Crist who has actually cut taxes. Besides...Snitker is not going to win....don't waste your vote.
@LibertarianJimSmith Crist is a joke. DO NOT VOTE FOR CRIST! He is part of the problem, an elite and in the end a globalist. NO CHANGE WILL COME FROM CRIST he is in place to keep the status quo.
Snitker wants to repeal the 16th Amendment (all income and payroll taxes) before going with a fair tax. He also favors the enumerated powers act, ending the Federal Reserve, and a non-interventionist foreign policy. Sounds just like the GOP, eh? As a life-long big "L" Libertarian, Snitker has my full support. He's the best candidate we've ever had in Florida.
Why would anyone think a 30 percent tax is a good idea?
It's less taxes Mr. Snitker not more taxes.
Kirnbergerl 7 months ago
Are people who want Fair Tax bad at math? A 30% Sales Tax on top of a state tax is not some great idea. Fair Taxers are so naive. They think businesses will hand over all their money saved back to you? Ha! Don't count on it. I've heard the crap arguements. You won't pay taxes if you don't buy stuff? So I'm supposed to eat air, wear air, drive air to work? Live in an air house? WTF!! An economy based on NOT buying stuff? We have that now it's called a recession. Hello? unemployment FairTaxer?
USaverageJoe 1 year ago
People don't understand that a fair tax is an addition to the tax code but a replacement of it. This video is uninformed bull.
segasonichq 1 year ago
I went to the "Fair Tax Fraud" website and can now see that the "Fair Tax" is far worse than I thought. Less or No Taxes is the Libertarian way.
RalphKSwanson 1 year ago
Helltrackrider:
The Fair Tax needs to accompany a balanced budget amendment and term limits.
The fair tax is the most reasonable approach to bringing in the same amount of revenue but FAIRLY and more importantly with greatly reduced corruption.
Anyone that truly researches the fair tax will realize its a NO BRAINER.
BTW, Nancy Pelosi herself actually supported it and begged president Bush to support it in a non-partisan effort on Nov 15th, 2004 in a letter. Once she got in power. no more.
peppilappu 1 year ago
Im not a fan at all of the FairTax as it is proposed by some Republicans and Neal Boortz...but, I cant recall hearing Snitker ever saying that he supported this proposal or supporting a 30% tax...please enlighten me if he has.
I know he supports a "fair tax" but not necssarily the proposed "Fair Tax Act"
Hell, i'd support a fair tax if our governments size was reduced by +80% and the Federal Reserve were abolished; but as the size sits today...i support Secession, fuck taxes.
helltrackrider 1 year ago
The FairTax will eliminate some $250 billion in wasted overhead costs. Illegals and criminals will finally contribute to the federal government. Yet the poverty level poor will completely be untaxed due to the prebate. The only loosers with the FairTax are politicians and the lobbyists who influence them. Let's make it happen.
urgener 1 year ago
This bogus add totally distorts and misrepresents the FairTax bill. The only way to get government back to work and the IRS off our back is to replace the current tax code that benefits only career politicians on both sides of the aisle and their special interests. Anyone campaigning against the FairTax or any of its supporters is most likely already bought and paid for by someone on K street.
eszeman 1 year ago
You need to get educated about the fair tax.
GO fairtaxnation.ning.com/forum/topics/fair-tax-school-is-in-session?commentId
peppilappu 1 year ago
Whoever made this is an suffering from the I D 10 T error or something. Libertarians that want to vote in support of the sales tax want to do so in conjunction with repealing the federal income tax. THUS LOWERING YOUR TAXES. Give me your pay pal account so I can send you money to buy a clue. Oh, and btw, any Veteran such as myself would tell you that you can't make it illegal to burn a flag..... because burning or burying them is how you retire a torn, worn out flag.
indianachristfly 1 year ago
Whoever made this is an suffering from the I D 10 T error or something. Libertarians that want to vote in support of the sales tax want to do so in conjunction with repealing the federal income tax. THUS LOWERING YOUR TAXES. Give me your pay pal account so I can send you money to buy a clue.
indianachristfly 1 year ago
The Fair Tax necessarily repeals the 16th amendment. No repeal, no Fair Tax. No one said it would be easy.
usanzac 1 year ago
Prices will not rise with the FairTax. When the income tax is removed, prices will drop due to competition. This has always happened in the past. Ask any economics student. Profits stay steady at 5 to 8 percent. That's the beauty of capitalism. The poor will pay no taxes, due to the prebate. MORE people will be paying taxes because illegals and criminals will be contributing the the tax collection. Think about it. 250 billion dollars will be eliminated from the collection overhead.
urgener 1 year ago
This is a total lie, and the poster either knows it's a lie, or is too stupid to know it's a lie.
DaddysSML 1 year ago
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You people are so pathetic! You can't beat him with honesty and issues you have to sink to trying to discredit him locked away in your dark closets using cheap tactics and snipets of words to make him say what you want him to say! You just can't handle someone going up to Washingtion to clean our the corruption! IF PEOPLE LISTEN TO THIS GARBAGE; concerning a man who is a US Marine Veteran willing to sacrifice again to serve his country, then you deserve the garbage DC vomits!
EternRoylty 1 year ago
You people are so pathetic! You can't beat him with honesty and issues you have to sink to trying to discredit him locked away in your dark closets using cheap tactics and snipets of words to make him say what you want him to say! You just can't handle someone going up to Washingtion to clean our the corruption! IF PEOPLE LISTEN TO THIS GARBAGE; concerning a man who is a US Marine Veteran willing to sacrifice again to serve his country, then you deserve the garbage DC vomits!
EternRoylty 1 year ago
It's guys like Snitker that will ensure that the Libertarian Party will actually achieve our goals of Constitutional government and real economic and personal liberty. However, it's guys like YOU that seem to want to make sure that the LP is nothing more than an impotent debate club. I'm so very impressed that you've read Friedman, Boaz, Rand, etc., but isn't it time we took action instead of just sitting around complaining to each other? Snitker is the best thing to ever happen to the LPF.
ConstitutionDefence 1 year ago
It is false to say the FairTax would abolish the IRS and the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
It would take three quarters of the states to ratify a repeal. Unlikely considering we can't get the Equal Rights Amendment (liberal) or Flag Burning Amendment (conservative) passed so chances are it won't be repealed.
SpotFakeLibertarians 1 year ago 2
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urgener 1 year ago
@SpotFakeLibertarians : Well, you've got a point there. The FairTax is a major change in the way we colelct revenue for the government. It might have to be done in stages. Maybe the first stage is to ADD the VAT, and THEN delete the income tax, and then simplify the VAT into the FairTax. Another way might be to change to the Flat Tax, and a decade later switch it over to flat on consumption instead of income. We'll see.
urgener 1 year ago
@SpotFakeLibertarians : Well, you've got a point there. The FairTax is a major change in the way we collect revenue for the government. It might have to be done in stages. Maybe the first stage is to ADD the VAT, and THEN delete the income tax, and then simplify the VAT into the FairTax. Another way might be to change to the Flat Tax, and a decade later switch it over to flat on consumption instead of income. We'll see.
urgener 1 year ago
At snitker2010(dot)com under Issues - Taxation and Spending, Alex Snitker says, "I propose the FairTax in place of the income tax and all payroll based taxes, including Social Security tax, payroll tax, corporate income tax, etc. This would abolish the IRS and the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. More Americans not only have jobs, but also are allowed to keep their entire paychecks. In its place would be a consumption tax and a monthly rebate to cover the taxes up to the poverty level."
22KingRat 1 year ago
John Wayne Smith is a FAKE Florida Libertarian also.
Get this... He recruited this guy Snitker.
The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree?
LIBSagainstJWSmith 1 year ago
Standard demagoguery by people who don't understand the consumption tax. This vid is a waste of time, unless you are among the many who demand to remain uninformed..
Donovan4Senate 1 year ago
The proof is in the video. Alex Snitker promoting a "consumption tax" aka the FairTax. If you want more proof go to Alex Snitker's website. Also the Libertarian Party website--they do NOT promote the FairTax at all. You must haved failed math if you don't get that a 30% consumption tax is MORE tax on top of state taxes and EVERYDAY of the year on EVERY purchase. But there would still be an income tax also. The 16th Amendment would need to be repealed. That is next to impossible to do.
PatEWilliams 1 year ago 2
@PatEWilliams Uhm no, this replaces the taxes. This doesn't add to them. The more shit you buy, the more taxes you pay. If you cannot afford to buy things, then you prob cannot afford to be taxed. SIMPLE idea here people. WAKE UP, think for yourself and RESEARCH. Jeesh....you people crack me up, keep trying globalist sheep.
skb0rzn 1 year ago
confederateoutl? What are you even talking about?
PatEWilliams 1 year ago
I see that the Alex Snitker supporters are making inappropiate comments that had to be removed by Youtube.
PatEWilliams 1 year ago
@PatEWilliams Uhm... you don't really want to get into parties making inappropriate statements do you? We can tube it out for days with the Dem/ Rep sheep in D.C. and elsewhere saying ignorant sick things about people.
skb0rzn 1 year ago
Alex Snitker is not a real Libertarian if he promotes any taxes. The Fair Tax is a GOP creation to shift taxes not eliminate them. I'm not wasting my vote. I going with Charlie Crist who has actually cut taxes. Besides...Snitker is not going to win....don't waste your vote.
LibertarianJimSmith 1 year ago
@LibertarianJimSmith Crist is a joke. DO NOT VOTE FOR CRIST! He is part of the problem, an elite and in the end a globalist. NO CHANGE WILL COME FROM CRIST he is in place to keep the status quo.
skb0rzn 1 year ago
@skb0rzn
Him and Meek and rubitcho.
jmjfanss 1 year ago
Snitker wants to repeal the 16th Amendment (all income and payroll taxes) before going with a fair tax. He also favors the enumerated powers act, ending the Federal Reserve, and a non-interventionist foreign policy. Sounds just like the GOP, eh? As a life-long big "L" Libertarian, Snitker has my full support. He's the best candidate we've ever had in Florida.
ConstitutionDefence 1 year ago 2
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ConstitutionDefence 1 year ago
Alex Snitker is a creature spawned from anti-Libertarian John Wayne Smith.
Enough said.
LIBSagainstJWSmith 1 year ago
@LIBSagainstJWSmith Can you back that up with proof? Until then your argument is not Valid.
confederateoutl 1 year ago
This guy is a hard right religious conservative.
Research what groups this guy associates with.
You'll see what I mean.
OutThePartyCrashers 1 year ago
Alex Snitker talks like a conservative Republican.
USaverageJoe 1 year ago
The FairTax is bad news. So is Alex Snitker.
LibertyGirl1982 1 year ago
I agree that Alex Snitker is not a Libertarian if he promotes taxes.
PoliticoSpycatcher 1 year ago
@PoliticoSpycatcher Hey if we didnt have taxes our country would fall. The LP says LESS TAXES and not no taxes! That is a idiotic statement.
confederateoutl 1 year ago