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hey everyone, peace and love: I used to make a real pest of myself trying to tell everyone that lifters would fly in vacuums, and I was wrong. It's only an ion-wind effect, You can see for yourself: NASA/CR—2004-213312 (google that) and look at page 6, paragraph one. Also google 'gravitec inc data talley', download the pdf and read the conclusions on page 91. They are both PDF's that everyone can find, and I apologize for being so insane.
Notice as the power-input rises, the Al-foil tubes rise UP toward the wire, from Coulmbs force electrostatic-attraction. The foil is not BLOWN DOWN by any "airflow". It is quite obvious from this foootage, that the foil is lifting the entire device. This is equivalent to "lifting yourself up by your bootstraps", which sounds strange, but there it is. Any force in Nature can be easily magnified by Man. Extrapolate this into a 40-foot triangle, or disc.
schicke Nylonfäden die da überall straff von der Decke hängen. Und das das Beschleunigungs- und Abbremsverhalten so typisch nach was ganz bestimmten aussieht...
Ein bißchen Mühe sollte man sich für Fakes schon machen. ^^
In fact, at tests in Paris France in 1955, with a 200-Watt power-supply in hard-vacuum, there was no limit to the speed, at a low power-input at one Billionth of an atmosphere at Societe Nationale du Construction de Sud-Oest. Experiments proved it is an inertialess warp-drive, with speeds far greater than any rocket. No noise, compared to a rocket's deafening roar. Classification only removed recently, despite an 80+ history.
It mentions BiefeldBrown effect which you can look up on wikipedia. Wikipedia says "The effect relies on corona discharge", and "no thrust could be observed in a vacuum". So again, the author of the patent was wrong (or lying). Indeed, it is just an ion wind effect and nothing more.
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dwdrums49, I guess you are referring to a patent number 7182295 (you can find it on Google patent search). Again, the patent itself is a total BS, people patent many science-fictional things. The fact that it was patented does not mean anything.
Applied Electrogravitics sells a fully-assembled 12-Volt battery-powered HVDC unic the size of a couple packs of cigarettes for less than $100. You must make the flying device at least 3 to 4 feet in diameter, and use .003" stainless-steel wire for the upper anode, and feed and return wires. Use 1/16th-inch suqare balsa stock, or you will have to feed in more wattage to get same amount of force. This is NOT rocket science! BE CAREFUL.
That is just one method by one group of ETs, there are about as many methods of achieving dynamic counterbary as ther are states in the Union. Electromagnetism behaves the same in every corner of the Universe(s).
You have 3 main parts of craft: 1. Anode-wire. Stainless-steel. Runs around the top.2. You have an insulator, or standoffs. Any dielectric material will do. 3.You have a cathode, a bit larger in diameter than your anode. You use bare stainless-steel wire for your feed and return, and an access to a source of High Voltage DC. A positive electric charge in space induces a G-well. Negative charge in space induces a G-hill. This is a simple DIPOLE space-drive, or WARP DRIVE, with no moving parts.
A plane uses a lot of energy to keep itself on a certain height. Actually you could keep yourself on a certain height by sitting on a burning little rocket (as it is done in a plane) or you could just sit on a chair (as it is done here). Well in the first case you have to pay a lot for the rocket propulsion, but in the second case you just have to pay the energy to get from the buttom up to the chair. After that you have to pay NOTHING for energy, because you don't have to waste any.
I have uploaded 2 videos of the Official Debunking of Antigravity lifters on the Discovery Channel. The youtube video code is Jk2GGoMJ7NU and a0FusVb4Gp4
When the power is activated, watch the foil-tubes lift up to the thin anode wire by electostatic-attraction. The foil falls to the wire, regardless of orientation of devices. With low-power, this causes levitation (gravity-control), as force of gravity is very-weak, compared to electromagnetism. This is "electrostatic-attraction-flight", Vand-der Waals forces, Coulombs-charge forces, the Biefeld-Brown Effect (TTBrown dot com).
Notice the foil-tubes (Cathodes) lifting up towards the wire (Anode) when the power is activated. The Coulombs (Van derWalls) forces: electrostatic-attraction of the foil is greater than vice-versa, so a unidirectional-force is produced. When the force is more than the acceleration of the device's inertial mass at seal-level, you have DYNAMIC COUNTERBARY or BARYCNETRIC CONTROL, or antigravity, and gravity control. Read ETHER TECHNOLOGY, by Rho Sigma.
If this is just aerodynamic-lift, why is the foil lifting up the device, instead of being blown DOWN by ion-wind? The foil is lifting the device due to COULOMBS charge-forces, which are identical to a G-well. TT Brown had built and tested CIRCULAR model boats by 1938, w/ charged rim-segments. Despite rapid 90-degree turns and instant starts and stops, at any speed, animals and plants on board felt nothing. Look it up.
This has indeed been successfully tested in vacuum from 1930s to today, this decade, by NASA and almost every aerospace-concern you know. US Air Force CLASSIFIED all refernces to electrogravitics in 1955. In 1957, TT Brown founded NICAP.
actualy whats its doing is once the electricity is applied, it vibrates the wires, causing lift from small amounts of wind by the vibrating wires. now, if you were to put that in a vacuume and try to fly it again, i bet it wouldnt work.
The wires should not vibrate at all, and if they are not taut they lift up just as much as down, so any air movement cancels out. The asymmetry in Coulombs-attractive-forces causes the foil-cathode to chase the wire. This is high-energy electrostatics, or BARYCENTRIC-CONTROL.
it was on the show "myth busters" and thats what was happending. they put it in a vaccum (anti-gravity things can fly in a vacum) and it no longer flew. so yes, something on it is generating a small amount of lift.
They ignored successful vacuum tests by TT Brown in France in 1955-56 with disc-aerofoils "Societe de Construction Aeronautique, Agnew H Bahnson Labs in Winston-Salem NC 1957-58, "General Electric Space Center" 1959, King of Prussia PA (now Lockheed-Martin Space), US ARMY, PURDUE UNIVERSITY, GRAVITEC, Inc.
You're ignoring the data from the aforementioned corporations and experiments thet were successful in vacuum, including elevated gap with ceramic-dielectric (TT Brown), NASA-Gravitec (2003, Hector Serrano ELECTRIC ROCKET), and TT Brown's validating work with 88-pound antigravs he called GRAVITORS, and work by HONDA R & D in 1996-2007. Read: POSSIBILITY OF A STRONG COUPLING BETWEEN ELECTRICITY AND GRAVITATION, by Takaaki Musha,POSSIBILITY OF SPACE DRIVE PROPULSION BY HIGH POTENTIAL FIELD,Musha'92
If this was Ion-wind, you would expect the foil to be blown away from the wire. But this is clearly not happening. This is electrostatic ATTRACTION-flight, antigravity, or microgravity, according to HONDA. Unified Field.
Notice how the devive is lifted up BY THE FOIL, which is more strongly attracted to the wire than vice-versa, causing a NET FORCE in one direcion. Enough Voltage, and the acceleration is the same as gravity, and then more than gravity (Gravity-control, or DYNAMIC COUNTERBARY, BARYCENTRIC CONTROL)/
wow thats amazing!!!!! is there any oppurtunity to steer it left,right and up and down?how much KiloVolt is there needed to push that theorethically above the atmoshphere???and theres another question,some people say they work in space and some not,what is true????? thnx :)
Of course in it's current state the lifter is not realy practical since it lifts only it's own weight (although i've seen on a website that a guy lifted a hamster ... good for him :))
Maybe a little bit fine tunned this technology could be promising.
By the way ... hae you seen the huge japanese lifter ? that's awesome :D
It is understandable to be skeptic when you see stuff flying around BUT don't be skeptic until you try it yourself. Of course there are "strings" those strings are the wirs that suply the device with high voltage.
I tried this at university and it works. I don't know how so many people here can say it's fake. Search for "bifield-brown effect" on wikipedia guys, this thing is known and documented.
If you do not believe in the technology, you will "see" strings suspending. Same with clear UFO films and photos. Why submit film and photo evidence in a court of law, if you are going to apply the silly double-standard to UFOs?! If it stands up in a court of law, and passes photometiric analysis, and r you were there when film was taken, then it is real, FOR YOU.
what? I did not say I saw strings.. I said it was moving consistent with being on strings. Perhaps this is real, perhaps it's just unstable and infantile in it's application, it is as of this time consistent in it's movements with being on strings....
Also, Why is this a video response to: Ron Paul v. Mike Gravel: 2008 "It's Your Dome" Challenge?
Every antigravity device I have ever built or seen, including full-scale UFOS, moves consistent with strings. Somepeople SWEAR they "see" strings lifting my large BEAMSHIP models. I just laugh!
That's ion wind creating thrust. Not very effective way to get off the ground. It doesn't work on vacuum and doesn't have any effect on gravity, so naming this "Antigravity" is quite misleading. It just creates a breeze of air downwards like a very ineffective propeller. Cool trick though that anyone could try at their home.
Read ETHER TECHNOLOGY, by Rho Sigma, THE US ANTIGRAVITY SQUADRON, by Thomas Valone, ANTIGRAVITY: THE DREAM MADE REALITY, by John Thomas. THE US ARMY,NASA and Purdue say the force is several orders of magniude more than ion thrust can account for. Sme configurations have almost no ion wind, and produce MORE thrust, and work in vacuum. Research.
Little to no breeze in my Applied Electrogravitics' Beamships. When electrodes are CLOSER, there is a lot more ion-wind, but LESS thrust-force, and higher power consumption!!! Whn gap is adjusted HIGHER, Ion-wind and sound goes away, but FORCE is increased manyfold, and power-consumption goes way down. Build them! Fly them! Or make no further comments. Take that as a challenge.
Not enough breeze with Beamship models to deflect a .1 gram, 1" styrofoam ball off a table! When adjusted for the least iont wind, they typically have the most "thrust". There are videos on YOUTUBE form yesterday, and today, showing such devices working in vacuum. So your deduction is not correct. Try the experiment!
the problem with this is its missing an internal insilator (its diamagnetic medium) so it (the electricle flow) wouldnt have anything to "push off" in a vacume but its not like that models anywhere near space travel. the airs oun diamagnetic properties seem to be doing just fine, anywase just thought you might want to know is all. and i wish you the best of luck on future works
With solid-state, hi-K Factor, High MASS dielectrics, similar such devices could lift TONS of ship and payload with very little input power. The Govt. does'nt want people to be enthused about force-field propulsion, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN STATUS-QUO. Check on that!
There should be wires all around this thing, it's using the Bifield Brown effect to create ion wind. There is a wire that goes from a power source, and that wire is tied between the three wood strips in the frame. They need those wires. You build one at your house for 3$ if you happen to have an old computer screen around. Otherwise, you'll need an old screen with a tube set, not LCD or plasma.
Guyz use your mind for a change. Without they wires they couldn't pass electricity to the device. It's high voltage there. They use 100kV ion propulsion not exactly antigravity
The Biefeld--Brown effect is an effect that was discovered by Thomas Townsend Brown (USA) and Dr. Paul Alfred Biefeld (CH). The effect is more widely referred to as electrohydrodynamics (EHD) or sometimes electro-fluid-dynamics, a counterpart to the well-known magneto-hydrodynamics. Extensive research was performed during the 1950's and 1960's on the use of this electric propulsion effect during the publicized era of gravity control propulsion research.
At last, someone who has done some reading (research). Read my paper, Vol 7 #1, JOURNAL OF NEW ENERGY, and NEW ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES magazine, July/August 2002. Also, subscribe to THE ELECTRIC SPACECRAFT JOURNAL, out of North Carolina.
Imagine you have a magic tube of tennis balls that NEVER runs out of tennis balls. You put this on the end of a stick, and tie the stick to yourself so that the tennis ball tube is above you, and then you open the tube allowing an infinte supply of tennis balls to come raining down on you. Air resistance slows those tennis balls down just a little bit; if you could somehow manage to grab one hard enough and shove it into your pocket fast enough, you could DRAG yourself up through the air.
Sounds like Chinese water torture subliminal scare tacticts. I understand ionic wind; ok? Reports show some; but say it is three times to low to be the cause of the lift. Variable voltage and large to small capacitor sizes or some stuff is supposed to be the answer; universal gravity; I say Meisner Effect all the way.
Inertia is due to NET CHARGE. Not MASS, or amount of material, or velocity. Once you realize this, you cross a mental threshold that frees your mind, increasing your IQ to accept some astounding possibilities. Read, study, research. And Love.
Have you made one and observed it yourself? What you said seems contrary to the truth; the foil rolls are pulling upward. I believe it is the Meisner Effect (electromagnetic mirroring). EM field generation from the high voltage wire coinciding with aluminum to create a field which mirrors the EM field of the Earth.
No, not Searl effect (two likes repel). This field-effect propulsion wors in ANY direction. When directed AWAY from the Earth's surface, we simply call it antigravity. But it is simply a DIPOLE space-drive system, of which MANY different patents exist. BUILD THEM.
It's not true antigravity. Ions rip off of the wire (at the top, running between the three posts) and head toward the foil. Along the way, air molecules get in the way, and the ions have to "push" through them. Really, it's like a very ineffecient propeller. It won't work in a vaccum. It's a neat effect, though, but useless, unfortunately. :(
Have you made one and observed it yourself? What you said seems contrary to the truth; the foil rolls are pulling upward. I believe it is the Meisner Effect (electromagnetic mirroring). EM field generation from the high voltage wire coinciding with aluminum to create a field which mirrors the EM field of the Earth.
I don't have to build oen myself. Other people have, and have experimented with them extensively.
Earth's magnetic field is too weak for the lifter to be interacting with it. These things work by using air as a reaction medium, and do NOT work in a vaccum. Which is a pity.
Why then, do the aluminum tubes move upwards; appearing to lift the craft-- if air is moving downward past them? And why would air moving downward cause the craft to rise-- it seems as if the air should be blowing upward to blow the craft upward? It is not a jet of air blowing out from the craft is it?
Air moves "post" propellers and helicopter rotors, too. :) And the air isn't blowing upwards and carrying the craft with it (like sailing). Instead, the craft is directing a jet of air DOWNWARDS, and uses the reaction forces to get thrust in the direction opposite that the air is being sent. A jet of air is most definitely blowing from the craft towards the ground. :)
There arent any "tubes". I assume you're referring to the rectangular foil sheets. They're stretched tightly between the pieces of wood that make up the corners of the device. If you read the links I gave above, you can see how the corona wire creates ions that are attracted to the foil, but the ions keep bumping into air molecules, transferring the momentum.
Ok, I am done trying to argue with you because I see foil tubes over balsa wood sticks; one tube for each stick of the triangle. I see the tube go from resting on the stick move to pulling upward on it. I just read the pdf's from links provided by contributer; you lose.
I believe the wire simply wraps around the perpendicular balsa sticks, while the lower portion of the craft has tubes resting on sticks; not the usual flat with sharp edge design, which prevents arcing from wire above.
Aren't you referring to the wire at the top of the craft; I am referring to the tubes clearly seen horizontally and parallel to the wire which are directly below the wire. Look closely at the very beginning of the video and watch how they are at rest; when current is sent thru the wire the tubes below rise.
propellers move air by air pressure and movement of physical properties; ionic movement is a small breeze not capable of leveling the craft so precisely as shown. Have you ever seen a helicopter act as this lift shown?
Exactly, The foil is lifting the entire device. My research concluded this as well in early 2002, and I had been doing TT Brown ELECTROKINETIC APPARATUS experiments successfully since the 1990s with two and three-foot diameter aluminum and copper and plexiglas saucers, as per the patet # 2,949,550. appliedelectrogravitics dot com
Yes, Electrumz. The Foil is more strongly attracted to the wire, than the wire is to the foil, causing the whole device to move with the foil in the direction of the wire. Look at TT Brown's Bahnson Labs footage from 1957-1960, and subscribe to the ELECTRIC SPACECRAFT JOURNAL.
In reports found posted by links added by video contributor there is evident reporting that this propulsion has indeed been seen to work within a vacuum. Mass ratio to magnetic field, between craft and earth, is similar to superconductor ratio to magnet.
The magnetic field of the earth is strong enough to hold everything down by gravity and protect us from the sun's deadly radiation. Mass ratio to EM field and variable voltage of said field is all relative. "UFO" technology has already been created by us using these principles but has been kept secret.
"(at the top, running between the three posts) and head toward the foil" (foil rolls) suspended upon the balsa sticks making up the triangle. Reports say a greater force is place upon the larger part (the foil) compared to the smaller wire.
This has nothing to do with antigravity. Why are you presenting a neat toy as a fringe, woo woo stuff?
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yep
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If you guys see a TheBeamshipCaptain commenting on these videos, it's not really Beamshipcaptain, it's an imposter. He's trying to ruin Beamshipcaptains good name.
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Also, BeamshipCaptain who commented on this page is not Beamshipcaptain. He's also an imposter, probably by the same guy as TheBeamshipCaptain.
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hey everyone, peace and love: I used to make a real pest of myself trying to tell everyone that lifters would fly in vacuums, and I was wrong. It's only an ion-wind effect, You can see for yourself: NASA/CR—2004-213312 (google that) and look at page 6, paragraph one. Also google 'gravitec inc data talley', download the pdf and read the conclusions on page 91. They are both PDF's that everyone can find, and I apologize for being so insane.
BeanshipCaptain 2 years ago
great stuff, look up strepultion to see just really what you are playing with.
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Notice as the power-input rises, the Al-foil tubes rise UP toward the wire, from Coulmbs force electrostatic-attraction. The foil is not BLOWN DOWN by any "airflow". It is quite obvious from this foootage, that the foil is lifting the entire device. This is equivalent to "lifting yourself up by your bootstraps", which sounds strange, but there it is. Any force in Nature can be easily magnified by Man. Extrapolate this into a 40-foot triangle, or disc.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
schicke Nylonfäden die da überall straff von der Decke hängen. Und das das Beschleunigungs- und Abbremsverhalten so typisch nach was ganz bestimmten aussieht...
Ein bißchen Mühe sollte man sich für Fakes schon machen. ^^
Elementardrache 2 years ago
i wonder where can i get 500 kw of power :O
should i talk with the power company ! what to tell them lol i need power dude
myso2008 2 years ago
that is a very stable craft :D thanks for the big idea ! i'm thinking to make a very big version which sucks millions of watts :d
myso2008 2 years ago
You wont need millions of Watts. The larger you build them, the more efficient they are.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
i will be making a 6 meter version of this Lifter, now just have to find power source. :O
myso2008 2 years ago 2
In fact, at tests in Paris France in 1955, with a 200-Watt power-supply in hard-vacuum, there was no limit to the speed, at a low power-input at one Billionth of an atmosphere at Societe Nationale du Construction de Sud-Oest. Experiments proved it is an inertialess warp-drive, with speeds far greater than any rocket. No noise, compared to a rocket's deafening roar. Classification only removed recently, despite an 80+ history.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
do you have a link?
It would be cool to find out if it really does work in a vacuum. Without a link though it is all speculation :(
raydiddy420 2 years ago
Vacuum tests are all over YouTube, adn all over the web. Everything is on the Wb, nowadays. Try also jlnlabs website.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
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its fake!!!! WATCH MYTHBUSTERS YOU FUCKING FAILURES!!!!!!
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It mentions BiefeldBrown effect which you can look up on wikipedia. Wikipedia says "The effect relies on corona discharge", and "no thrust could be observed in a vacuum". So again, the author of the patent was wrong (or lying). Indeed, it is just an ion wind effect and nothing more.
miptmole 2 years ago
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dwdrums49, I guess you are referring to a patent number 7182295 (you can find it on Google patent search). Again, the patent itself is a total BS, people patent many science-fictional things. The fact that it was patented does not mean anything.
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What a BS!! Antigravity?? - Ha ha! Did you try it in vacuum?
miptmole 2 years ago
Applied Electrogravitics sells a fully-assembled 12-Volt battery-powered HVDC unic the size of a couple packs of cigarettes for less than $100. You must make the flying device at least 3 to 4 feet in diameter, and use .003" stainless-steel wire for the upper anode, and feed and return wires. Use 1/16th-inch suqare balsa stock, or you will have to feed in more wattage to get same amount of force. This is NOT rocket science! BE CAREFUL.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
The Et's use Antigravity propulsion in their craft using element 115
ElectronblueZ06 3 years ago
That is just one method by one group of ETs, there are about as many methods of achieving dynamic counterbary as ther are states in the Union. Electromagnetism behaves the same in every corner of the Universe(s).
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
if that crap is truth why noone gives a schematics and the explanation how it works in detail... you just bunch of idiots wasting peoples time..
deejayconte 3 years ago
You have 3 main parts of craft: 1. Anode-wire. Stainless-steel. Runs around the top.2. You have an insulator, or standoffs. Any dielectric material will do. 3.You have a cathode, a bit larger in diameter than your anode. You use bare stainless-steel wire for your feed and return, and an access to a source of High Voltage DC. A positive electric charge in space induces a G-well. Negative charge in space induces a G-hill. This is a simple DIPOLE space-drive, or WARP DRIVE, with no moving parts.
Beamshipcaptain 3 years ago
A plane uses a lot of energy to keep itself on a certain height. Actually you could keep yourself on a certain height by sitting on a burning little rocket (as it is done in a plane) or you could just sit on a chair (as it is done here). Well in the first case you have to pay a lot for the rocket propulsion, but in the second case you just have to pay the energy to get from the buttom up to the chair. After that you have to pay NOTHING for energy, because you don't have to waste any.
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I have uploaded 2 videos of the Official Debunking of Antigravity lifters on the Discovery Channel. The youtube video code is Jk2GGoMJ7NU and a0FusVb4Gp4
Titled "Lifter Anti-Gravity Myth has been BUSTED"
Joeviocoe 3 years ago
What happens at 'American Antigravity' stays at 'American Antigravity'...
DownWithTheOwl 3 years ago 2
How does it work? Like is there a source of thrust from somewhere or is it ionicly charges and repling from the ground?
antomyofthetounge 3 years ago
When the power is activated, watch the foil-tubes lift up to the thin anode wire by electostatic-attraction. The foil falls to the wire, regardless of orientation of devices. With low-power, this causes levitation (gravity-control), as force of gravity is very-weak, compared to electromagnetism. This is "electrostatic-attraction-flight", Vand-der Waals forces, Coulombs-charge forces, the Biefeld-Brown Effect (TTBrown dot com).
Beamshipcaptain 3 years ago
Notice the foil-tubes (Cathodes) lifting up towards the wire (Anode) when the power is activated. The Coulombs (Van derWalls) forces: electrostatic-attraction of the foil is greater than vice-versa, so a unidirectional-force is produced. When the force is more than the acceleration of the device's inertial mass at seal-level, you have DYNAMIC COUNTERBARY or BARYCNETRIC CONTROL, or antigravity, and gravity control. Read ETHER TECHNOLOGY, by Rho Sigma.
Beamshipcaptain 3 years ago
the wires are for power, and/or to keep the lifter from going too far
fueltvfan 3 years ago
ok i see wires
sterlingnobles 3 years ago
If this is just aerodynamic-lift, why is the foil lifting up the device, instead of being blown DOWN by ion-wind? The foil is lifting the device due to COULOMBS charge-forces, which are identical to a G-well. TT Brown had built and tested CIRCULAR model boats by 1938, w/ charged rim-segments. Despite rapid 90-degree turns and instant starts and stops, at any speed, animals and plants on board felt nothing. Look it up.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
Any higher with the camera and you'd have seen the crane.
aoxomoxoa88 4 years ago
Try it yourself, if you have the balls. A child can do it.
Beamshipcaptain 3 years ago
lol
sterlingnobles 3 years ago
This has indeed been successfully tested in vacuum from 1930s to today, this decade, by NASA and almost every aerospace-concern you know. US Air Force CLASSIFIED all refernces to electrogravitics in 1955. In 1957, TT Brown founded NICAP.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
actualy whats its doing is once the electricity is applied, it vibrates the wires, causing lift from small amounts of wind by the vibrating wires. now, if you were to put that in a vacuume and try to fly it again, i bet it wouldnt work.
Samrixs 4 years ago
The wires should not vibrate at all, and if they are not taut they lift up just as much as down, so any air movement cancels out. The asymmetry in Coulombs-attractive-forces causes the foil-cathode to chase the wire. This is high-energy electrostatics, or BARYCENTRIC-CONTROL.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
it was on the show "myth busters" and thats what was happending. they put it in a vaccum (anti-gravity things can fly in a vacum) and it no longer flew. so yes, something on it is generating a small amount of lift.
Samrixs 4 years ago
They ignored successful vacuum tests by TT Brown in France in 1955-56 with disc-aerofoils "Societe de Construction Aeronautique, Agnew H Bahnson Labs in Winston-Salem NC 1957-58, "General Electric Space Center" 1959, King of Prussia PA (now Lockheed-Martin Space), US ARMY, PURDUE UNIVERSITY, GRAVITEC, Inc.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
hmm, interesting. ill have to research that a little bit. thanks for the info!
Samrixs 4 years ago
it doesnt matter if they ingnored it or not,they tested it, and it didnt work.there is always wind comeing from under it..
theinsane101 4 years ago
You're ignoring the data from the aforementioned corporations and experiments thet were successful in vacuum, including elevated gap with ceramic-dielectric (TT Brown), NASA-Gravitec (2003, Hector Serrano ELECTRIC ROCKET), and TT Brown's validating work with 88-pound antigravs he called GRAVITORS, and work by HONDA R & D in 1996-2007. Read: POSSIBILITY OF A STRONG COUPLING BETWEEN ELECTRICITY AND GRAVITATION, by Takaaki Musha,POSSIBILITY OF SPACE DRIVE PROPULSION BY HIGH POTENTIAL FIELD,Musha'92
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
If this was Ion-wind, you would expect the foil to be blown away from the wire. But this is clearly not happening. This is electrostatic ATTRACTION-flight, antigravity, or microgravity, according to HONDA. Unified Field.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
Notice how the devive is lifted up BY THE FOIL, which is more strongly attracted to the wire than vice-versa, causing a NET FORCE in one direcion. Enough Voltage, and the acceleration is the same as gravity, and then more than gravity (Gravity-control, or DYNAMIC COUNTERBARY, BARYCENTRIC CONTROL)/
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
That's amazing!!! Altitude control, I've only ever seen those things cranked at full voltage and fly straight to the top. Is the voltage variable?
electrogravitic 4 years ago
All mine are variable also.
The ONLY way to fly!
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
wow thats amazing!!!!! is there any oppurtunity to steer it left,right and up and down?how much KiloVolt is there needed to push that theorethically above the atmoshphere???and theres another question,some people say they work in space and some not,what is true????? thnx :)
yagduse 4 years ago
Of course in it's current state the lifter is not realy practical since it lifts only it's own weight (although i've seen on a website that a guy lifted a hamster ... good for him :))
Maybe a little bit fine tunned this technology could be promising.
By the way ... hae you seen the huge japanese lifter ? that's awesome :D
DarkTemp0 4 years ago
It is understandable to be skeptic when you see stuff flying around BUT don't be skeptic until you try it yourself. Of course there are "strings" those strings are the wirs that suply the device with high voltage.
DarkTemp0 4 years ago
I tried this at university and it works. I don't know how so many people here can say it's fake. Search for "bifield-brown effect" on wikipedia guys, this thing is known and documented.
DeBaimbo 4 years ago
Why is this a video response to: Ron Paul v. Mike Gravel: 2008 "It's Your Dome" Challenge?
Also the "thing" what ever it was jiggled in response to movement consistent with being suspended by multiple strings.
Impericalevidence 4 years ago
Try the experiment yourself, I'll show you how. Education is my business. Appliedelectrogravitics dot com .
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
If you do not believe in the technology, you will "see" strings suspending. Same with clear UFO films and photos. Why submit film and photo evidence in a court of law, if you are going to apply the silly double-standard to UFOs?! If it stands up in a court of law, and passes photometiric analysis, and r you were there when film was taken, then it is real, FOR YOU.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
what? I did not say I saw strings.. I said it was moving consistent with being on strings. Perhaps this is real, perhaps it's just unstable and infantile in it's application, it is as of this time consistent in it's movements with being on strings....
Also, Why is this a video response to: Ron Paul v. Mike Gravel: 2008 "It's Your Dome" Challenge?
Impericalevidence 4 years ago
Every antigravity device I have ever built or seen, including full-scale UFOS, moves consistent with strings. Somepeople SWEAR they "see" strings lifting my large BEAMSHIP models. I just laugh!
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
That's ion wind creating thrust. Not very effective way to get off the ground. It doesn't work on vacuum and doesn't have any effect on gravity, so naming this "Antigravity" is quite misleading. It just creates a breeze of air downwards like a very ineffective propeller. Cool trick though that anyone could try at their home.
MiksuK 4 years ago
Read ETHER TECHNOLOGY, by Rho Sigma, THE US ANTIGRAVITY SQUADRON, by Thomas Valone, ANTIGRAVITY: THE DREAM MADE REALITY, by John Thomas. THE US ARMY,NASA and Purdue say the force is several orders of magniude more than ion thrust can account for. Sme configurations have almost no ion wind, and produce MORE thrust, and work in vacuum. Research.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
Little to no breeze in my Applied Electrogravitics' Beamships. When electrodes are CLOSER, there is a lot more ion-wind, but LESS thrust-force, and higher power consumption!!! Whn gap is adjusted HIGHER, Ion-wind and sound goes away, but FORCE is increased manyfold, and power-consumption goes way down. Build them! Fly them! Or make no further comments. Take that as a challenge.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
Not enough breeze with Beamship models to deflect a .1 gram, 1" styrofoam ball off a table! When adjusted for the least iont wind, they typically have the most "thrust". There are videos on YOUTUBE form yesterday, and today, showing such devices working in vacuum. So your deduction is not correct. Try the experiment!
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
the problem with this is its missing an internal insilator (its diamagnetic medium) so it (the electricle flow) wouldnt have anything to "push off" in a vacume but its not like that models anywhere near space travel. the airs oun diamagnetic properties seem to be doing just fine, anywase just thought you might want to know is all. and i wish you the best of luck on future works
chronos1137 4 years ago
With solid-state, hi-K Factor, High MASS dielectrics, similar such devices could lift TONS of ship and payload with very little input power. The Govt. does'nt want people to be enthused about force-field propulsion, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN STATUS-QUO. Check on that!
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
There should be wires all around this thing, it's using the Bifield Brown effect to create ion wind. There is a wire that goes from a power source, and that wire is tied between the three wood strips in the frame. They need those wires. You build one at your house for 3$ if you happen to have an old computer screen around. Otherwise, you'll need an old screen with a tube set, not LCD or plasma.
GnosticDjinn 4 years ago
Guyz use your mind for a change. Without they wires they couldn't pass electricity to the device. It's high voltage there. They use 100kV ion propulsion not exactly antigravity
paratirisi 4 years ago
Dude you're using those strings i saw it.
giocicco 4 years ago
the strings are keeping it down and the one string on top is feeding electricity to the triangular object
coolchris7154 4 years ago
it's high voltage which creates come kind of field around and makes it float some how? i think we should let electrumz explain it
mrblahmicblah 4 years ago
It's not antigravity dude, its creating thrust
markbrock30 4 years ago
The Biefeld--Brown effect is an effect that was discovered by Thomas Townsend Brown (USA) and Dr. Paul Alfred Biefeld (CH). The effect is more widely referred to as electrohydrodynamics (EHD) or sometimes electro-fluid-dynamics, a counterpart to the well-known magneto-hydrodynamics. Extensive research was performed during the 1950's and 1960's on the use of this electric propulsion effect during the publicized era of gravity control propulsion research.
MataLeoUK 4 years ago
At last, someone who has done some reading (research). Read my paper, Vol 7 #1, JOURNAL OF NEW ENERGY, and NEW ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES magazine, July/August 2002. Also, subscribe to THE ELECTRIC SPACECRAFT JOURNAL, out of North Carolina.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
next time, try removing the wires from the image.
I've counted atleast 5 wires
punkassscream 5 years ago
There's wires all around that thing
KingKrio 5 years ago
Imagine you have a magic tube of tennis balls that NEVER runs out of tennis balls. You put this on the end of a stick, and tie the stick to yourself so that the tennis ball tube is above you, and then you open the tube allowing an infinte supply of tennis balls to come raining down on you. Air resistance slows those tennis balls down just a little bit; if you could somehow manage to grab one hard enough and shove it into your pocket fast enough, you could DRAG yourself up through the air.
goodluckfox 5 years ago
Sounds like Chinese water torture subliminal scare tacticts. I understand ionic wind; ok? Reports show some; but say it is three times to low to be the cause of the lift. Variable voltage and large to small capacitor sizes or some stuff is supposed to be the answer; universal gravity; I say Meisner Effect all the way.
electrumz 5 years ago
Inertia is due to NET CHARGE. Not MASS, or amount of material, or velocity. Once you realize this, you cross a mental threshold that frees your mind, increasing your IQ to accept some astounding possibilities. Read, study, research. And Love.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
Have you made one and observed it yourself? What you said seems contrary to the truth; the foil rolls are pulling upward. I believe it is the Meisner Effect (electromagnetic mirroring). EM field generation from the high voltage wire coinciding with aluminum to create a field which mirrors the EM field of the Earth.
electrumz 5 years ago
No, not Searl effect (two likes repel). This field-effect propulsion wors in ANY direction. When directed AWAY from the Earth's surface, we simply call it antigravity. But it is simply a DIPOLE space-drive system, of which MANY different patents exist. BUILD THEM.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
I don't know what to make of this video. Is the altitude in direct relation to the voltage?
For all I know, it shouldn't be, and if it is, then this is real interesting!
sigmoidman 5 years ago
I'm Impressed I'd Like To understand this principle better please e-mail me at the add i sent you I'm very excited about the project
anvilinc 5 years ago
It's not true antigravity. Ions rip off of the wire (at the top, running between the three posts) and head toward the foil. Along the way, air molecules get in the way, and the ions have to "push" through them. Really, it's like a very ineffecient propeller. It won't work in a vaccum. It's a neat effect, though, but useless, unfortunately. :(
goodluckfox 5 years ago
Where can i read more about this as i am not interested in its use inside a vacuum but more in its use within the atmosphere?
anvilinc 5 years ago
Have you made one and observed it yourself? What you said seems contrary to the truth; the foil rolls are pulling upward. I believe it is the Meisner Effect (electromagnetic mirroring). EM field generation from the high voltage wire coinciding with aluminum to create a field which mirrors the EM field of the Earth.
electrumz 5 years ago
I don't have to build oen myself. Other people have, and have experimented with them extensively.
Earth's magnetic field is too weak for the lifter to be interacting with it. These things work by using air as a reaction medium, and do NOT work in a vaccum. Which is a pity.
goodluckfox 5 years ago
Why then, do the aluminum tubes move upwards; appearing to lift the craft-- if air is moving downward past them? And why would air moving downward cause the craft to rise-- it seems as if the air should be blowing upward to blow the craft upward? It is not a jet of air blowing out from the craft is it?
electrumz 5 years ago
Air moves "post" propellers and helicopter rotors, too. :) And the air isn't blowing upwards and carrying the craft with it (like sailing). Instead, the craft is directing a jet of air DOWNWARDS, and uses the reaction forces to get thrust in the direction opposite that the air is being sent. A jet of air is most definitely blowing from the craft towards the ground. :)
goodluckfox 5 years ago
Then the foil tubes would be blowing downward as well don't you think?
electrumz 5 years ago
There arent any "tubes". I assume you're referring to the rectangular foil sheets. They're stretched tightly between the pieces of wood that make up the corners of the device. If you read the links I gave above, you can see how the corona wire creates ions that are attracted to the foil, but the ions keep bumping into air molecules, transferring the momentum.
goodluckfox 5 years ago
Ok, I am done trying to argue with you because I see foil tubes over balsa wood sticks; one tube for each stick of the triangle. I see the tube go from resting on the stick move to pulling upward on it. I just read the pdf's from links provided by contributer; you lose.
electrumz 5 years ago
I think what you're calling "foil tubes" are actually the insulators that allow the carona wire to attach to the balsa sticks.
But hey, I lose. Oh, how sad for me.
goodluckfox 5 years ago
lol
electrumz 5 years ago
I believe the wire simply wraps around the perpendicular balsa sticks, while the lower portion of the craft has tubes resting on sticks; not the usual flat with sharp edge design, which prevents arcing from wire above.
electrumz 5 years ago
Aren't you referring to the wire at the top of the craft; I am referring to the tubes clearly seen horizontally and parallel to the wire which are directly below the wire. Look closely at the very beginning of the video and watch how they are at rest; when current is sent thru the wire the tubes below rise.
electrumz 5 years ago
propellers move air by air pressure and movement of physical properties; ionic movement is a small breeze not capable of leveling the craft so precisely as shown. Have you ever seen a helicopter act as this lift shown?
electrumz 5 years ago
Exactly, The foil is lifting the entire device. My research concluded this as well in early 2002, and I had been doing TT Brown ELECTROKINETIC APPARATUS experiments successfully since the 1990s with two and three-foot diameter aluminum and copper and plexiglas saucers, as per the patet # 2,949,550. appliedelectrogravitics dot com
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
Yes, Electrumz. The Foil is more strongly attracted to the wire, than the wire is to the foil, causing the whole device to move with the foil in the direction of the wire. Look at TT Brown's Bahnson Labs footage from 1957-1960, and subscribe to the ELECTRIC SPACECRAFT JOURNAL.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
In reports found posted by links added by video contributor there is evident reporting that this propulsion has indeed been seen to work within a vacuum. Mass ratio to magnetic field, between craft and earth, is similar to superconductor ratio to magnet.
electrumz 5 years ago
The magnetic field of the earth is strong enough to hold everything down by gravity and protect us from the sun's deadly radiation. Mass ratio to EM field and variable voltage of said field is all relative. "UFO" technology has already been created by us using these principles but has been kept secret.
electrumz 5 years ago
"(at the top, running between the three posts) and head toward the foil" (foil rolls) suspended upon the balsa sticks making up the triangle. Reports say a greater force is place upon the larger part (the foil) compared to the smaller wire.
electrumz 5 years ago