INSTRUMENT (ILS) APPROACH NANTUCKET AIRPORT 400FT CEILING

[SenorSpode]

Yo, szman99: any word on that plane crash with 2 fatalities in Brewster today? Press seems rather mum...

[AcepilotC172]

@Teddy3142---Check the altitudes on the VOR 17 into OMN, Cross the VOR at 1600 or whatever Daytona Gives you and then down to 700' if you can ID 4 DME, you can go down to 480.

[FantasticBob7000]

Was the pilot that man from Nantucket?

[badbrad2424]

i love the ils 24 into nantucket..cool thing i picked up is if you look at the approach plate waivs is just after the MVA 1600 so they can't say "Cross waivs at or above 1,600..."(because its at 1525) it has to be "maintain 1600 or what ever they give you until established on the localizer" fun one tho!

[billblue36]

Nice approach ...nothing like coming out and woop there it is...

[GODISMYPILOTALWAYS]

DO NOT LIKE IFR AND NEVER WILL ;((

[Chicken57]

That looked like a Colgan hunk-a-junk on the ramp!

[kylepetten]

Beautifully executed!

[szman99]

Thanks. I had 400 hours at the time, not a lot, but I just got my instrument ticket a few months before so everything was fresh. Near the coast it's not unusual to have low ceilings in the morning so it makes for good practice.

[ajit2011771233]

very nice and precise tracking of the ILS. keep it up !!!

[Isaac21121]

Looked pretty dang awesome. How many hours did you have at the time.

I have 290 and still havent gotten down to even 400 ft on an ILS...I live out west so yea....

[kxkid0517]

Right on glide slope nice vid

[BaronBoy100]

Not really a criticism but I noticed that at the beginning of the clip you had a full-scale deflection of the glide-slope but an altitude of (I think) 1,600'. This appears to me (without the appropriate approach plate) to be a rather unusual altitude for an IFR aircraft to capture the glide-slope. Normally I would have thought it would have been a round thousand altitude.

[szman99]

The ILS 24 is a typical precision approach. The video started about 8 miles from the airport. At that point I was at 1800' descending to the stepdown altitude of 1600' which is also the glideslope intersect altitude. At this point I am well below the glideslope as required by the approach. I intersect the glideslope just before the outer marker which is 5.6 miles out. You can hear the marker beacon on the radio if you turn up the volume. This arrangement protects you should the glideslope fail.

[BaronBoy100]

@szman99 OK thanks for the information. I am more used to an intercept altitude somewhat higher than 1,600' for the ILS approaches I have flown.

[teddy3412]

@BaronBoy100 where i fly out of right now (MLB) the ILS 9R approach has glideslope intercept at 1600

[XxCharlotteCullenxX]

I live on Nantucket so I've been on these planes a lot. And I was wondering how in the world you kept the camera so stead and in a rain storm at that. Good video.

[szman99]

It wasn't really stormy, just a low overcast and some drizzle in the clouds. I wasn't the one filming either!

[MrRedbull333]

haha i think this is the sixth time ive seen this movie

[propilot1324]

Fantastic approach! Did you fly it in manually or was it on autopilot until you had a visual of the runway?

[chazzx55]

@propilot1324

Im sure it was manual landing

[ironmartonline]

That was a great job you nailed.. I have been in and out of there many times myself.

The weather can change in a drop of a hat.

[coiah756]

dope approach.. shot that badboy pretty well.

kinda sucks not doin it with an HSI. i fly seminoles with HSI and RMI

[JKemp3688]

Everyone talking about "pegged" needles I think might be a bit confused...we generally refer to a localizer/glideslope/VOR needle being "pegged" when it is deflected full scale, not when it's on the centerline, thus a pegged needle on an ILS is cause to go missed (once you're on final)...excellent appproach by the way, the first one in actual is a rush!

[GeneralGoopy]

Nantucket :D! weather's always IFR lol

[the1bigace]

Im working on my IFR skills in X-plane, Its hard to practice keeping my scan, i'm so used to outside visual references for pitch and roll that I keep looking outside from the horizon :P ILS is difficult to keep the needle resting. Ill master it though... eventually

[Relistener]

i don't understand why some pilots, who've amassed thousands of hours, refuse to get their ifr ticket. oh well. i imagine pilots, like you, who've earned yours smile when you depart into and above the puffs knowing you're not legally bound beneath nor around them. thx for sharing your first!--|------

[szman99]

Appreciate your comment, thanks!

[SenorSpode]

I agree completely. Reading through many NTSB crash reports, the database is peppered with accidents related to flying into IFR with no formal training or experience (VFR-only) and resultant spatial disorientation. Surprisingly, many were high-time pilots who thought they could "handle it". Aviation is the perfect matrix for applying the mantra "Don't fool with what you neither know nor are prepared for".

[riDDDiculous]

@Relistener You do have a point, I guess they are either scared of getting their ifr or just plain lazy of going through the lessons/studying....etc, I don't see why not, its actually quite fun and interesting :) not to mention that knowledge might save your life one day!!

[jlnovaes7]

Perfect

[airbornerat]

fantastic,great pilot

[curtafinal]

Congratulations! Perfect IFR procedure administration!

[stimpy100]

Good stuff, well done. Im sure it was a rush seeing the runway lights. Bravo..

[SenorSpode]

There was a plane over Nantucket

Surrounding weather tried hard to muck it

The GS was pegged

On the final approach leg

And the landing was great: You really "stuck it"!

Fived and faved! Excellent!

[szman99]

Thank you very much. I like the poem!

[jbird0168]

Nice dead on needles at 2. 6 miles out from marker.

[SenorSpode]

I keep trying to perform an ILS landing at my own airport in a Cessna 172 on Flight Simulator, still working on it. At least crashing on FS is safe and I don't need to call an insurance adjuster...or a mortician, LOL!

[karm53]

beautiful ILS approach

[BeechSundowner]

I'd have to agree with GoNavy311. No music on approaches, but engine sound is nice. I like to evaluate my own approaches by listening to the engine power changes. Nicely executed approach.

[b101aa2]

i see you got your official FAA approved radar detector. I don't think a 172 i going to break the speed limit though :) The sound could have been better. I heard the marker a little, but not much. Great landing for your first time around on ils.

[radmar23]

at first... respect! and second,is it this famouse aiport from TV serial :) ...greatings from Poland.

[szman99]

Thank you very much! Appreciate the comment. Yes this is the same airport from WINGS TV show.

[GoNavy311]

Great video, nevermind these comments about needing music. The sound of the engine is all you need! By the way, was this your first actual instrument approach as an IFR pilot, or your first actual instrument approach, period?

[szman99]

Thank you. This was my first actual one ever. Training was all under the hood!

[Icemankr]

tht is real nice......

considering it was ur first flight under the hood....

btw no offence but since it was such an awesome approach and the conditions were IFR was there any input by ur instructor???

brilliant job nonetheless

[szman99]

Thank you! It was my first flight in actual IFR, so there was no hood. I lost contact with my instructor after I received the rating.

[mikearuba]

Great video! Actual beats simulated any day! haha

[noxia1]

Great video. Thanks for posting. How about some more. This time with audio.

[decimuscarrerus]

I'm from new bedford.. where do you learn?

[oxcyder]

Nice flying, keeping those needles centered :)

[szman99]

THANKS!

[neoclassic2987]

What plane is that and damn man was this mandatory training?

[coolman17701]

its a cesna 172, in description

[BBFjetboat]

Now this is some real IFR weather nice video szman!

[szman99]

THANKS!

[spacedreaming]

FS9 is just as good too, FSX I thik requires a fast computer, but it's good if you can use it.

[JPChabert]

I actually prefer the flight dynamics on FS9... FSX is more arcade than FS9 was. FS9 with PMDG add-ons, now that is the really good simulator.

[brcakb]

thanks for answers guys

[spacedreaming]

The only reason I know of this airport is from Wings episodes. Nice approach.

Maybee you could hear better audio from plugging the camera's mic or line-in to the intercom-out?

brcakb:

I think the easiest way for me is to get microsoft flight simulator (Or other type of simulator) or...get a book and just read about it. But the simulator is more fun until you start doing it for real. Need the charts too.

[letuboy]

X-plane is a very realistic simulator. FSX has some cloud bugs that i don't like. If you want to learn serious Radio navigation use x-plane but FSX works just as well.

[brcakb]

what is the easiest way to learn about VOR and navigation?

[bar2v]

that was a good cross wind landing. have you shot one down to minimums yet? i shot one the other day and broke out at about 225 AGL, it was amazing!

[FSXaddict]

LOL, my wife just asked me if that was a radar detector on the dash.:)

[RCSKULLY]

Thankyou so much for actually showing the instrument panel instead of continuously focusing on the conditions outside of the plane. I can only see so much dense fog before I want to enjoy the actual instruments doing their thing.

[szman99]

Thank you RCSKULLY. I had to keep telling my passenger to stop filming outside and do just that. He was scared we would never see land!

[fasterplayer65]

Sweet- from one puddle jumper to another- rock on!!

[szman99]

Thank you!

[usairways2]

Cessna Cutlass RG?..Very nice landing with or without a crosswind.

[92papa]

Nice job!

As far as someone's comment about adding music, the marker chirps were music to my ears. I actually enjoy the airplane's music and pilot/controller dialog to (usually bad) music! (No offense formychar1.)

[Gerhard1915]

Nice landing. Very impressive! Well done!

[szman99]

Thank you Gerhard1915!

[formychar1]

it was nicely done but can you put up a music on it next time cuze it kind of better

[Cramsfordd]

Nicely done, but nothing works like some clear ice when it comes to ruining your day . . .

[szman99]

Thanks. Never experienced ice and don't expect to, especially in July when the approach was made.

[szman99]

Thank you helobelow!

[seejfly]

He coupled the approach with the autopilot.

[szman99]

It was hand flown wise guy. My training did not include the use of the autopilot. I have since taught myself, but would still rather hand fly approaches.

[kikikeywest1]

Hello. Great job of "peggin' those needles"; as an old time flyer but not instrument rated, without a doubt you did a good job. You should be proud of your first actual IFR approach; should be a confidence builder, for sure. Nice video, thanks, m.d. virginia

[szman99]

Flown out of Hartford Brainard airport.

[szman99]

Thank you very much!! I've done several since then and they were much easier.

[ABflyersk8r]

Where did you fly out of? If it was Hanscom it would be kewl cause many Cessna's, Pipers, Lears, Gulfstreams ect, come over my house.

[njisonfire]

I think thats one of the coolest feelings, when you line up with your ILS and you are unsure of it in the back of your mind, but you trust your instruments, and when you come out of the ceiling and your see teh PAPI you are like awesome, i made it!

[flyhigher26]

Verry nice, I got my instrument rating two years ago, and do to my location San DIego I seldom get actual IFR. I kinda wish I did, theres nothing like it, but great job nice aproach, at 90, needles pegged... smooth, safe landings.

[szman99]

Thank you! San Diego is one of my favorite places to visit. I'll trade you Connecticut's weather for yours any time!

[RobertGary1]

Come up here to Sacramento during the winter. We get to land right at mins all the time.

[cessnan121pp]

yeah...like ACK like CQX...

UGHH

I've gotten cancelled on soo many times for my training because of IFR...i cant wait till i can get it

[69aviator6901]

Great job, I'm finishing my private and getting ready to start insturment traing. I hope I do as good when I fly my fist ILS approach in IMC. The Needles where pegged the entire time! great job

[freakybuzz]

Outstanding approach! I've just started on my IFR rating, and I'd gladly loose unnecessary body parts to shoot a hardball approach that clean. Bravo.

[szman99]

Thanks and best of luck with your training!

[flyer10]

very nice mate!

[phillyjeans]

beautiful approach!

[fauzi9786]

im a bit confused when intercepting the localizer of an ils approach..when is it actually we hav to start turning? when the neddle starts to move? or let it move untill it reaches to centerline then only we start the turning? szman99 can u help?

[szman99]

The regulations state that for a precision approach you are allowed to start turning when the needle starts to move. Depending on how far you are from the airport will determine how fast the needle moves. You want to time it so that when you finish the turn the needle is in the center. GPS helps with this - when your GPS course to the airport equals the published approach course the needle will be near the center.

[danos1]

Sweet!! You had those needles nailed soild! To echo the others, very nice first time in actual!

[szman99]

Thanks a lot!

[denelson83]

Wow... I actually heard both the outer and middle markers on that approach.

[theA320pilot]

nice approach.

have u set the second VOR for missed?

[szman99]

Hello, thank you. Yes VOR 2 is set to the ACK R-270 radial which will take me to the CLAMY intersection on the miss.

[SBKcrna]

This is gonna sound really lame but I have flown this hundreds of times using MS Flight Sim. How much white knuckling takes place during the real thing?

[szman99]

Good question. I've also flown it many times on the Microsoft FSim. Its very good practice. The only difference in the airplane is that you get bounced around a bit. 400' ceiling is no problem when there is no other weather. Would never try it with rain or bad winds, except on the sim! Thanks.

[lstorm2003]

Well to sum up what Dick Collins said, what makes real IFR flying so much different than Flight SIM is fear. In the real deal you can't push the rest button, then stroll to the refrigerator for a snack if you screw up... To make it closer to the real thing fly your next Flight sim approach with a slightly crazed stranger holding a gun to your head.

[fiveninerzero]

pretty good approach, gotta love the marker chirp

[TheNorwayBoyz9594]

ILS in a cessna? Cool

[capnsean520]

Being your first ILS in Actual, you executed a very nice approach. I even had the approach plate out watching where you were... LoL... A VERY VERY NICE stabilized approach. Keep it up, and you'll do nicely in your career!!!

Sean Dickerson

CFII MEI

[szman99]

Thank you Sean for your kind words and best of luck to you too!

[pjc858]

looks like you nailed it on the 500s....brilliant!

[szman99]

Thanks for the nice comment!

[grkvain]

Good job, I am getting my instrument Rating in FlightSafety Academy in Vero Beach.

[1000BaseT]

Very good.

[djmastermind]

Very well done approach!