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  • dude get the "Fast video Download" plugin for firefox and you wont have to videotape your video

  • Zzzzz....

  • The gallup Poll is inconsistent since it omits those who do not support McCain and his lack of pure inspiration. He takes the inspiration of others and tries to make them his own.

  • From USA Today 10/9/2008:

    "Obama leads in key states and the most recent Gallup Poll daily tracking survey, released Wednesday, showed Obama expanding his lead over McCain to 11 percentage points, his largest advantage since the organization began testing voter opinions in their matchup early in the summer."

    Eleven percentage points!!! What was that about USA Today/Gallup was rigged to favor McCain? Where are the facts?

  • Maybe they are still trying to favor McCain. He might be up by 20 points.

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  • Forget it. Just got to get out and VOTE. Of course, even voting doesn't matter. Remember the "hanging chads"? Being an American has become a real embarrassment.

  • Heres why polls dont matter

    Rednecks are not about to vote for a blk man named Barrack HUSSIEN Obama. I dnt care what the polls say

    Unless blk, hispanic & youth turn out is historic & astronomical Obama will lose. Period.

    Rednecks will come out in force to make sure the white house stays WHITE. If this election was about issues Obama would be up 15-20%. There is obviously a racial component but no one is about to admit it in public of course.

    "We have 2 get 2 know him better" my ass.

  • well ....... i honestly don't expect any black people to vote for mccain. and not 'cuz he's a republican either dude. i don't call them racist. i live in chicago & am unimpresed w/obama. does that make ME a racist??

  • Obama is up 49% to 44% on McCain according to the USA Today/Gallup Poll.

    Clearly it's rigged.

  • Cohort just fyi I was not talking about my friends. I was talking about my neighbors and people I work with and stuff like that.

  • There are way more polls out there that Gallup. How did all of them get it wrong?

    Oh, You are right about the media they do mis-represent the truth. That is why Obama is still in the running and not Hillary.

  • That makes sense. I kept wondering why the polls were saying Mccaine was ahead and yet everyone I spoke to favored Obama.

  • Everyone I talk to knows Obama will ruin this country and so they are voting for McCain. I guess it just depends on the crowd you hang with?

  • you whine too much

  • Yeah..rig baby rig!

  • You got that right DaSouth123

  • I hear that polls are taken from voters who have voted in the previous election. It is also done by polling people who have land lines only.

    Is this true? If it is I would like to see a poll of first time registered voters.

    Also younger people are choosing to carry cell phones and land lines are becoming obsolete. How would that factor in polls.

    I think exit polls are the most accurate. If that is skewed you know the election is rigged.

  • my sentiments exactly!

  • I believe that to be correct, but I ain't holding my breath. We'll just have to wait for November 4th. Feeling pretty good right now for Obama's chances.

  • you have got to be kidding me. you must be one of those good ole boys

  • Wow! That's scary! Of course, I suspected that something shady was going on with those polls, but it's great that you've laid it out.

  • Thank you for the logical and informational update - now I know what's been going on statistically. I could feel the polls were wrong, and know it and hear it from walking the blocks, but didn't understand why. Thanks again much, and keep it up!

  • Fact Master works for the government! Anyone dare question things like 9/11 or Bush winning a second term is some how "abnormal"! 9/11 was in inside job Bush winning a second term was RIGGED!

  • And i would rather not have some beauty pegeant bitch as a vice president and some old senile stupid fuck as a president.

  • All polls are slanted 10 points or more towards the Democrats, which means, McCain is going to crush obama

  • I don't know where you are getting that from, as the last gallup poll done before the 2004 election showed Bush up by 2 %..... he won by 3.

  • Oh really? Then how come Obama always has more people at his speeches than Mccain. Think about it.

  • A lot of fags show up?

  • Oh I see! "Fact" master is hate monging white trash that hates to see anyone not fully White heading the Nation! Get over it! Gallop Poll was RIGGED!

  • Pastor Wright is RIGHT! Only Faux news Sheeple liars want to try to deny how American Elitists are affilated with terrorism to scare America to gibve up liberties! Sorry, but McCain being a POW does NOT make him qualified for office!

  • There are two guys running for office that don't know what they are doing. People are just gonna vote for the R or D next to there name and thats all there gonna get.

  • Polls dont reflect public opinion, they create it, its old news.

  • I agree with that timegrinder

  • So tell me factmaster do I listen to the Muslim charges or do I listen to the he is a man that hates america just listen to his christian pastor of over 20 years. Very confusing.

  • also factmaster it was a public school in Indonisia. The school doesnt teach religion. If your gonna call yourself Factmaster you need to check the facts

  • She is why I hope he doesn't die. And how about not doing that tired fear mongering act by using Obamas middle name as if that makes his some scary muslim terrorist.

  • Hell even the conservative talking heads have given up on that old fear tactic.

  • Factmaster your gonna be shocked when you see McCain forget the lies he is telling the conservative base so he can get elected and goes back to his old liberal ways if he makes the White House.

  • McCain if he makes the White House is gonna make more deals with the Dems. then he ever will with the Republicans. hell he let it be known at the convention when he said he is gonna change Washington. The republicans have had the White House for 8 years and the House and Senate for 6!

  • Don't sweat it Factmaster racism comes easy for most.

  • But lets be straight with this election. The dems win either way. If McCain wins he has always acted more like a liberal than conservative and who cares about Palin she won't be in charge unless McCain dies.

  • real nice factmaster using the term You Blacks.

  • While you worry about Polls, I will be voting. You need a real job, you focus on garbage too much.

    McCain & Palin are up in the poll because Americans are coming around to see them as the real change. Get over it.

    Yeah, Gallop is rigged. It's all rigged unles you get your way.  Waa Waa Waaa.

    Baby changing station is thata way ~~>

  • Actually the polls show that states that Republicans win by 5 to 10 points are now tied with the Dems. You need to look at state to state polls not national.

  • do you think the reason mccain got more viewers than obama during the conventions is because of the location of the nielsen boxes?

  • zennie, on the one hand, you might have a point. In any other country, Obama would be up by 20 points, with the last govt performing so bad.

    That Americans are really this stupid, baffles the worlds mind. How ever, we sadly can not discard it.

    Neither the possibility that someone with billions of dollars has bribed the 5 or 6 pollers that are there.

    OTOH, it seems monstrous to assume all this.

  • Zennie, me thinks mayhaps you have a legitamate gripe apout polls. I do not support the guy your supporting, but polls are, at best, only what people are willing to divulge publicly. Most voters with at least half a brain will compare the voting record of candidates for any office. And this, my friend, is where Senator Obama severly falls short. Among issues of taxation, increased government, and his approach to US security, Obama falls very short of what many people consider acceptable. Sorry.

  • McCain isnt a true Republican and your statement on the above matter is full of nonsense.

  • They're all zombies!

  • Another factor of the lower numbers for Obama and possibly for alternative candidates such and Nader and Barr is that many people who are supporting these candidates are younger voters who may not have landlines. The laws in place disallow pollsters from calling cell phones so you have a larger number of older and more likely republican people being sampled.

  • Interesting viedo, I agree with one exception, the poll since New Hampshire had been accurate on election day, especially in the primaries. Hillary won Pennsylnia, West Virginia and Kentucky. Obama won North Carolina and Oregon. The polls held. So despite the obvious flaws, are you suggesting that Gallup' goal is possible voting supression based on the polls ir vice versa?

  • Whats a "Likely voter"?

    I mean really who are these people?

    Is this a guy who never has voted before but "might" get around to it this year?

    Is a "likely voter" not even registered to vote yet?

    If so, then I have my doubts that all that many "Likely voters" are suddenly going to get their act together, hop off their barstools and go register to vote in time for this election.

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  • Most of the young people have cell phones and I would think that they are being over-called for the old fashion phone-call.

  • What then? Are we being primed for another stolen election?

  • "You feel that way now because its been 7 years. Don't kid yourself. There is danger out there. We can never get laxed. "

    NO we feel thyis way because we don't paricularly feel that Bush kept us safe from anything. So stop the f-n fear mongering.

    Neither BUSH Nor McCain can protect us from domestic problems much less international terrorists. The terrorists are just biding their time.

  • McCain is going to lose big time. Americans are just not stupid enough to vote for this fool, even if they harbor racial prejudice and are so insecure that they have to attack everyone on the planet. It is good to have friends in high places, since without them you would be rioting on the streets for food. Take control of your country. If you want it then stand up and fight back. Or,watch go down the shitter piece by piece. When this happened in the 1700's, Americans revolted. Get out of debt.

  • where do you get your info? can you tell me where to look?

  • "where do you get your info? can you tell me where to look?"

    Huffington Post and the NEWS!

  • The Neocons are doing whatever they can to get McCain elected.Attempts at Obama's life have been thwarted. The October surprise has been stopped. They are trying to get a world war going but this has been anticipated and won't happen.  The NWO/Illuminati/Neocons/Zionist­s need McCain in The White House because he is a puppet and has no mind of his own. This would allow them to continue the Bush Doctrine, which is "Do whatever is needed to stay in power in Washington."

  • I was wondering why there were so many people at his events.. has so much money.. and they were in a dead heat?? I thought.. well maybe people are are giving more. But we need to get all those democrats out to vote.. that has always been the problem..more republicans come out to vote then dems.. but this year.. i think dems are really excited and will go out and vote.. SO everyone PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

  • Great video. Thanks for the upload!!

  • You gave me a wide open shot and I'm gonna take it. Like William Ayers? Obama's buddy.

  • or the sustained killing of young americans from gang violence. stay focused on things that don't matter if you want 4 more years like the last 8

  • sorry alec sometimes i get so engrossed in the debate i miss the humor. that was funny, thanks

  • Is what racism?

  • isn't that racism

  • You feel that way now because its been 7 years. Don't kid yourself. There is danger out there. We can never get laxed.

  • sorry i'm 53 my life didnt start on 9/11. brings to mind an old movie "the mouse that roared". more americans are killed by terrorist tactics from fellow americans than bin laden could ever dream of. death is death, don't get caught up in the "marketing of death"

  • if i would say that there are people(here) in the usa that train little kids to be god soldiers and to grow up and prepare for battle against non believers and abortion proponents would you believe me?

    you should consider believing this guy!i'm not surprised of anything in this country!

    ps:the answer to the first question is YES!the prove? this video watch?v=-i4bDIdEKRw

    please watch all of it before judging it's validity

  • So your saying let them run all over us? Do nothing cause there will always be resistence?

  • no, not at all. im just saying put it in perspective. the truth is before 9/11 and after 9/11 the chances of an american dying as a result of a terrorist attack are very slim. whereas we have other issues we could focus on that would make everyone's quality of life a whole lot better.

  • ggullet. Good point I agree with u. Clinton should have seen 9/11 coming when USS Cole was bombed by Al Q and he should have got Osama handed over to him when he was asked if he wanted him.

  • we can go back to the first barbery war if you wanna play that game. i believe whatever happens on a presidents watch is their responsibility. thats why we elect them to take charge and take responsibilty, good,bad or ugly

  • Lez, Sorry about calling u he. Just an oversight. No need to get all bent. How do u know I am a guy? I could be Alecia James.

  • Lez, Are u not agreeing that our soldiers are doing a fantastic job? Are u calling our soldiers morons? Please clarify.

  • Ok, I will agree with you for the sake of this arguement that Gallup is changing its methodes for its polls so that they favor McCain...

    If fox news ran a poll and it said McCain is favored by 25%, no one would care, because it is fox news running an internal poll that will likly not be accurate.

    I guess what I am getting at is that the blame is on the other media outlets for respecting the poll, rather than on Gallup for changing their criteria.

  • Z, A common women in Iraq is now allowed to make more free choices without getting her head cut off. Innocent citizens dieing is a sad reality of war. Millions of innocent people died in WW II. But freedom stood and we're not speaking German now and we have the freedom to blog to hearts content. Yes sucker punched. U don't agree we got sucker punched on 9/11? The war is with Al Q. Yes they are fleeing Iraq. Cause we are kicking their butt. But we still have to stabilize the country.

  • sucker punch indicates caught off guard. we had plenty of warning, this punch was telegraphed to continue the analogy. this was a "everything we got punch" which got through our defenses. i dare say if we had changed nothing after 9/11 and used the policys that were already in place the result would be the same, sans the death,destruction,loss of civil rights, waste of money....

  • question, how do you wage war against a millitary tatic? which is what terrorism is. any thinking person knows that you can defeat an organization but you will never defeat resistance.

  • ggullet, That is true but Al Q is over in Iraq now. I know they weren't there before. So u can respectfully save ur words. But whether u agree or not that we shouldn't have attacked Iraq. The fact is they are there now so its better to fight them over there than get sucker punched again. Theys guys don't have a country so we got to fight them where ever they appear. Were the USA we can do it. We can win. We have to stay on the offensive. Al Q has been tobusyfightingoverthertosucker­punchagain.

  • i disagree, when the war first started yes there was a free for all everybody with a beef against america go to iraq mentality,but al q has never been the biggest problem in iraq even though the media made it seem so, and now they have been completetly marginalized, and not by the surge, just a natural progression of killing. but what bothers me most is when mccain says he knows iraq is the central front on the terror war because "bin laden say's so"

  • One poll follows the other is simply not true. All of the polls base their research independently. Take Democracy Corps for example (founded by James Carville, a liberal). No where on his site does he say he follows suit with Gallup. They do their own research.

    Now, that is not to say your beef with Gallup is without merit but it is incorrect to be suggesting that how Gallup goes so do the rest of the polls. There is no evidence.

  • Good come back ggullet. I respect that point. But the answer is in ur question. "There are only 224 deaths a year from terrorism". Why is that. Could it be the government and our soldiers have done a fantastic job of protecting us for the past 7 years? There is a price for freedom and that price went up on 9/11 my friend. Sad to say but true.

  • that might be a logical conclusion accept for one fact, the bulk of that 500 bil price tag is spent on the iraq war, no american citizen has ever been killed here by an iraqi terrorist.

  • ""There are only 224 deaths a year from terrorism". Why is that. Could it be the government and our soldiers have done a fantastic job of protecting us for the past 7 years?"

    No it can't be that. NOT at all, why do I assume this line of reasoning" Because if the soldiers are ANYTHING like the morons on YouTube (which most likely they are given their ages). The like YouTubers, they're none-too-smart and like a particular dullard in this thread probably refers to females as "He" right alec?

  • Z, I do have an opposing view but I hate racists that make stupid comments also. They hurt the conservative cause. Aboveall, its plain wrong. I just want get a glimple into the liberal mind and see if I am missing something.

  • Her is my question. Will u guys dispute the integrity of the election if Obama losses? I won't dispute the validity if McCain losses.

  • That sorry President got elected twice and your only explanation is they stole it from us. Can't be that people were worried about further attacks and knew Bush would protect them better than Kerry. Put up somebody thats got some sand to protect us. Not Gore, Kerry or Obama and maybe you'll win one.

  • by protect i assume you mean protect our lives. fact. there are 500,000 deaths a year from cancer,which we spend 5 billion in research on. there are 224 yes 224 deaths a year from terrorism, which we spend 500 billion a year on. whose protecting us?

  • Agreed. Polls are useless information.

    Obama is gonna win handily in my opinion. He's the common sense vote, like I've said many times.

  • ggullet is already vested in a loss for Obama. Whinning about stealing elections. Libs are on the run. Know they are going down but can't believe there are that many people out there that feel McCain will be a better president. So they got to whine and blame the referee. The tone of the Obama supporters has changed in the last 2 weeks. No corination here so let's whine some more. There stealing our corination Boo WHOOO!

  • don't you just love people like "alecjames4" whinning about people whinning...would you like some cheese with that?

  • who would vote for a man that thinks the economy is fundamentally sound and then try to clean it up by saying workers are the fundaments of a good economy? that's not putting country first by any stretch of the imagination, that's party first.

    looks like they're going for the steal in mich this time, by disallowing votes of people who are in default with their home loans (60% black), sound like florida? ohio?

  • There it is. "2 stolen elections". Liberal whinning when they don't win an election. You are setting the stage again to whine if Obama doesn't get his coronation. "Unwinable war." You are a joke left over from the 60's. Even Obama admitted he was wrong and that the surge is working. A republican president has protected your butts since 9/11. It may be the only thing he has done but that's pretty important wouldn't u say. Clinton had Osama and let him go.

  • not whinning just stating proven facts. I was quoting gen. patreus who said there could never be a point when we could say we won the war. if he were protecting our butts there would never have been a 9/11, remember the briefing entitled "bin laden determined to attack in america". I guess you were to busy having a beer with this incompetent sorry excuse for a president.

  • ALL HELL BREAKING LOOSE?? and these polls suggest 50% of the people are behind McCAIN???.... CORRUPTED!!

  • thanks for the info. lets see, 2 stolen elections (only the blind cant see that),the worst attack on american soil in history,2 of the biggest wall street losses in recent history, american citizens turned into refugees (still), an unwinable war,erosion of constitutional rights,etc,etc,etc...and we're supposed to believe these clowns have 50% of america behind them.polls are for band wagon jumpers to lazy to think.My country is not that ignorant, this will be a landslide victory for Obama/Biden

  • that is to say, "mainland america"

  • Whoa..."where the Gallup goes, other polls go." That is speculation on your part and you presented no facts to that claim. Media outlets may report on the Gallup poll but the 12 polls I am referring to gather their own information.

    Today's Gallup Poll has McCain leading Obama 47% to 46%. With the typical margin of error the race is a dead heat. The truth of the matter is that the days where Obama was killing McCain in polls are over.

  • How does the Gallup Poll gather its results? How many people get polled? I'm talking about whether the polls favor McCain or Obama period. I have never been asked for my input on the street or on my cell phone or home phone.

  • Also I would like to say that u do have some sand for keeping right wing views on ur blog. This is fun. Should I stay or do you want to point me to a right wing blog? I am new at this.

  • Z, Honest question for U. What is ur take on Charlie Rangle. For the good of the party and ethics sake should he step down? Yes or No will do.

  • Amen sanco!

  • This is a bitch and moan video. When Obama was ahead in the polls there was silence now that he is behind there is moaning. I suggest you be a man like all of us and suck it up. People just need to vote and stop worrying about polls being unfair or rigged.

  • The solution is to: 1. ignore the polls or assume that Obama is 10 points behind. 2. organize at the grassroots level to get new voters registered. 3. Get them all to the polls on election day.

    Of course they're going to release crappy polls. Fox News is notorious for this.

  • In other words, whether you like it or not (I don't) McCain is back in this race.

  • Did you get your talking points from Huffington Post? In Sept. McCain has been leading in 6 of the commonly referenced 12 polls. In 3 of the polls they are tied and in the other 3 Obama is leading. The 12 polls I'm referring to are: Newsweek Democracy Corps (D) AP FOX/Opinion Dynamics Ipsos/McClatchy American Research Group NBC/Wall Street Journal ABC/Washington Post CNN/Opinion Research USA Today/Gallup IBD/TIPP CBS News
  • bmcguire80 is already setting the stage for a whinning video about how the election was stolen. You guys do think this is a coronation. Otherwise why would u use the word steal? Typical elitist. This is a democracy. The people decide. If Obama wins, congratualations. I'll be happy for u. The country will still survive either way and we all know it. I won't whine about it being stolen or rigged. Or threaten to move to Canada. Or say "how can 100 million people be this stupid."

  • Zennie, I believe they rig these polls so that it looks like it's super close on election day, and is thus plausibly stealable. There's a certain margin beyond which they probably wouldn't think they could get away with it.

  • Every recent poll that came out yesterday has it pretty much even. You guys think there all biased? If Obama was up it wouldn't be an issue. This isn't a coronation guys. You are trying to will this thing and that doesn't help. u just come off as typical whinning liberals. Ur running scared now. Trying to dig up dirt with Kevin. That wasn't news. MSNBC and Keith O didn't even cover it. When Obama loses there will be another whinning video about how the election was rigged.

  • Babyfran05 "I have little faith in the ability of undecided voters". That's a prime example of how liberals think. They think they know what's better for u than u do. What a statement. What a slap in the face of independent voters. That kind of thinking is what is pushing independent voters to the rep ticket. Polls are not biased. Z cited the biggest liberal blog there is. Do u have any thoughts of ur own. Oh, that's right somebody has to tell u how to think.

  • alecjames4 so if the blog's conservative, they ignore the truth, right? That's what your post implies if you consider the logic of the text versus what I reported. You did not attack the methodology thus rendering it correct and unchalleged. Polls are biased. To think otherwise is purely foolish and will get you laughed at big time.

  • Hey alec, this story of the Gallup problem is wide-spread. Why not accept the truth? Also "polls are not biased"? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

  • I hope you're right Z. I pray that people wake up from this.

  • you're right as usual zennie. i worry that these skewed poll results could influence the fence sitters. i have little faith in the ability of undecided voters to make up their own minds. maybe that's the point of a rig.

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