The best is the the Slovakian DIR team is using this video as an example of bad and dangerous diving and thay sais its a wonder that these two guys are alive. It just proves to me that DIR morons have no idea what are they talking about. Oh and yes PADI TEC REC is the worst training system ever because DIR morons invented diving in their opinion.
100m is no problem for a tech diver with a mixed gas rig. It's well beyond fatal for a rec diver with an air tank. Somebody should have written that it on a stick and beaten Yuri Lipski upside the head with it.
@a6km Hei !! I'm new in the discussion but I'd like to say I'm friends with Prince Charles and played a lot of domino with Betty (yeah, the queen and I are very close :-D
HAHA, here we're only but EVERYTHING we wanna be. As well as "mr. submarine" who's gone 145m. had a tea with Neptunus & Aquaman and which, by the way, is certificated by "Atlantis hiking institution".
@gaggotgaggot Clueless is that moron in your head which is called the brain.A piece of plastic card makes you the best?You are lucky to be still alive with an attitude towards diving like this but you are a perfect candidate for GUY/DIR, you will fit in perfectly in that group of I know everything cause I have the best plastic card. And I have a PADI as well and I was in caves and on 50m deco dives and but I`m nowhere near these two guys in this video. Get a brain first then dive
hes one of the best deep water divers in the world this guy do your homework ffs, and the tanks are 02 clean for the use of nitrox, they would also have to be o2 clean for trimix as pure 02 is added to the cylinders nas the mix is filled, he is at 100m and of course hes using trimix, if it was 36 nitrox, he would be dead at 40 m, learn then comment
Wow! Intense! I am scared to death of deep diving. I'll stick to the shallow reef / no deco diving but cool video even if it does give me the willies :)
Info for all you doubts and wanna be know it alls. I have lived and worked in Sharm el Sheikh for 8 years. I have dived the blue hole numerous times. I know Lee very well. The video is true, they are diving mixed gas, and believe me Lee can hover better with 4 tanks then most of you with one.
ture Jily24 but there are good scuba stories on the net too. My favorite site is the myscubastory site. They have shark diver attack videos, true scuba diving stories, lost buddy stories, dive accident stories and videos. Type myscubastory into google and its the first one
i agree babe4fish13, but there are some good dive story sites on the net too. Try the myscubastory site. They have real life dive stories and dive accident videos. Put myscubastory into google, and its the first result.
As a rescue diver trimix 50, 40 nitrox, master diver, dive master, instructer and more... I am warning you open water divers and even master divers and others IF YOU DON'T HAVE TRIMIX DON'T DIVE TO THE BOTTOM you will regret it if you do by some reason live
yes fightsharkfishing24 but there are good scuba accident sites on the web too. try the myscubastory site. They have all sorts of dive stories and accident videos there. type myscubasory into google and its the first one. enjoy
It doesn't do what it says on the tin. The back gas is not nitrox, it's trimix as any competent person would realise. The two nitrox blends are in the sling cylinders, which they are clearly not breathing from and won't until they begin decompressing at a much shallower depth. As for bouyancy, anyone who like Leigh can hover motionless with quads at six metres and deploy an SMB with their mask removed can comment. Anyone else would be wise to reserve their opinion.
It doesn't do what it says on the tin. The back gas is not nitrox, it's trimix as any competent person would realise. The two nitrox blends are in the sling cylinders, which they are clearly not breathing from and won't until they begin decompressing at a much shallower depth. As for bouyancy, anyone who like Leigh can hover motionless with quads at six metres and deploy an SMB with their mask removed can comment. Anyone else would be wise to reserve their opinion.
yes DMFD45 but there are good dive story sites with videos etc on the net too. try the myscubastory site. type myscubastory into google and its the first one. enjoy
It disturbs me that they're doing a tec dive but are still incompetent enough to not have proper buoyancy control and decide they have to stand on the bottom. Come on guys.
@aorr Lee Cunningham is probably one of the most experienced tek divers in the world and i wouldnt called him incompetent he is a TDI Instructor Trainer
@aorr It is clear they just wanted to stand on the bottom and shake hands for the camera. How did you deduce that they could not maintain their buoyancy when this video is a minute and forty five seconds long? What a retarded comment.
@aorr :Leigh used to hold the world depth record, and is a CMAS 3 star instructor, NACD and NSS/CDS Technical Cave Diver, SDI Course Director, TDI Adv. Trimix Instructor trainer, PSA Advanced Trimix Instructor Trainer, IANTD Adv Trimix Instructor, DSAT Tec. Trimix Instructor. Do you have a similar level of experience in order to start making these comments? Or are you just going to shut up now or realise that if they are standing its because they want to and not due to incompetence?
Nitrox cylinders will never be used for another blend than nitrox. The nitrox is used for decompression stops from the level on which it's allowed to be used (depends on the oxygen level).
I think they were just using NITROX marked cylinders with a Trimix because the maximum safe level of oxygen at 100 meters is 14.5% no way someone can survive even on air at that depth, never mind NITROX...
Nice to watch Leigh Cunningham and Ian Paris at work. Just goes to show you can do the Blue Hole safely, and remember what you saw, with a bit of planning and common sense. Great video, tidy kit config. I guess that's what comes of doing it day-in and day-out.
This is refreshing since all of the videos and account that i have seen of this place have all involved death to this point. Nice.... those ar the first video i have seen that were actually beautiful... with the excetion of the Arch freedive but that doesnt show the bottum... that is amiazing.
That Means that they dont have to use Stikstof 79%(dont know english word)
But that they can fill it up aswell with helium. But is expensive.
They you diff bottles with diff oxigen lvl's and diff mixes.
It';s not dangerous to go that deep as long you know how to dive. And use the right mix or mixes. I just finished my Padi Dive master. So i allso needed to know some things about diff air and thse things. Really intresting.
in my opinion, divers who 'try' this dive with normal equipment, should get their brevetation/license revoked for lifetime... but because this dive might be suicide with air or nitrox32, it is not necessary...
I mean, no one of would drive voluntary against a wall with 160mph...?
90m with nitrox? That's a laugh. Nitrox is blended for shallower longer dives. It is very dangerous at deeper depths. Nitrox will likely kill you at 90m from oxygen toxicity, not to mention 100m.
watch the Yuri Lipski footage on youtube... That is exactly what happened to him. He went to to 90M in Blue Hole alone, had about enough time to show his his depth meter to his Video cam and impress himself before he lost his marbles and filmed his own death... Fuckin Spooky shit!
Once the two guys decided to move it appeared that they had plenty of bouyancy control and were only 'just' negative on the bottom. It's all been a storm in a tea-cup aint it?
I have to go with CarMoves here... I'm a professional diver and cameraman and know that to get a perfectly steady film shot one often needs to be 'on the bottom'. Techie divers go right over the top with all this frog-kicking, trim etc nonsense - sometimes there's a place for it sometimes there aint - live with it!
Berkcam , this video was done for blue hole documentary's computer graphics/animation. The divers had to stay at the bottom to demonstrate the angle of a slope [see BH 3D computer graphics]
@scubazmei I'm with you on this - the how, why, when of the divers standing on the bottom is pointless - they were doing no harm and as you say the was a reason for it. I have no doubt those were two very proficient divers... unlike many of the jerks that venture into that dive site.
What a prime example of piss poor diving practices.
wlo93, your words are right on the money.
CarMoves, you're a big mouth, know nothing, excuse of a not knowledgeable diver. Even though I have my doubts that you've ever dived anywhere except your bath tub. Clown.
All of your concerns relate to shallower depths. These guys are at ~300ft, they are NOT standing on coral and destroying sea life. They are also "standing", not doing relay races, there is almost no silting. And even if it did silt, they are not in a cave, they could ascend a few feet and be in the clear.
I have seen many National Geographic photographers do this same thing -- even a famous photo with a whale "standing" next to one.
Well, I won't resort to returning the name calling or making it personal, as that's really not productive.
Poorly trained divers are poorly trained divers, regardless of certification or skill level. Good buoyancy control is a universal skill that does not go out the window the deeper you go, as you seem to imply. Similarly, it does not make it ok to silt out a dive site as long as the site is not in a cave. That's just ridiculous.
Your suggestion that it is ok to silt out the bottom as
they can simply rise up a few feet is really a selfish attitude as it lacks consideration to other divers that may be following or subsequent divers that may do the same dive. Really not a good idea. It's sort of like justifying littering by saying that all I need to do is to cross the street as I won't see the garbage I just left behind me.
Being "Trimix" trained does not impart a certainty of proficient dive skills. There are agencies and instructors who are more than willing to give out
c-card so long as the fee is paid and the time put into the course. I will say that it is difficult to assess diver skills based on that video clip, but I cannot imagine a situation on a dive like that where it would be necessary to stand on the bottom, even if you're shooting video.
You say that there are some National Geo divers that stand on the bottom while videoing? I believe it as I've been with a few also while on dives but that doesn't make it right either.
You know, I haven't quite figured out if you're just yanking my chain or you truly believe what you're saying. I do find it quite incredulous, though, if it is the latter. But since I don't really know, I will assume the latter.
You say that the divers are not silting out the bottom? That's not really the issue. The issue is that these actions propogate the notion that it is ok to do what they are doing, and you justify it by saying that it's ok as long as there's no silt. It's just plain bad
form. As a photographer, it is really irritating to follow divers around a site like the ones on this video since they may not be silting it up enough to lose all visibility, but it is definitely enough to show up in any photos. Again, it's that lack of consideration or lack of any clue that divers continue to do these sorts of things.
And I don't quite understand why you think that because the divers are at 300 ft that there could be no other divers? The camera man for one, and unless he is
diving solo, there's another diver. And really, it has nothing to do with being at a certain depth. Certain things hold true at any depth, and leaving the environment untouched in any way is what all divers should strive for. If these guys feel it ok to stand on the bottom at 300 ft, they'll do it at 200 ft or 100 ft, or is it only ok if they think that no-one else will dive there? That's pretty arrogant to think that they can be the only ones diving there.
substandard skills, absolutely. I've seen it first hand. As for my certifications, I'm not sure what that has to do with these two apparently "Skilled" divers standing on the bottom, but if you really want to know, I am trimix trained by two agencies - TDI Trimix and GUE Tech 2. I don't know if this means anything to you, but there you go. How about you?
And for the record, I still truly do not understand why there is a need for these guys to be standing on the bottom because they are
being filmed for a production. And I ask this quite sincerely what purpose does this serve? And being filmed doing it? Personally, if it were me doing that, I'd be embarassed.
Oh, you didn't call me retarded or some other politically incorrect name this time - you must be slipping. ;)
You seem to not userstand the concept of "context".
Why do we have a rule to maintain good buoyancy for pristine visibility? Well it depends on "context". In a cave, your life depends on good visibility; in a reef it is for courtesy to other divers and to not destroying marine life; on a salvage dive, you must contact the bottom, silting everything otherwise you couldn't do your job.
And how long does a silt-out last? Again, it depends on "context". In a cave, it can last a very long time due to low water flow; in the ocean with a current, is dissipates quickly.
So, at 300ft down, during a commercial photo shoot, putting the silt-out rule into "context", makes the issue not a "danger waiting to happen" as you noted in your initial posting.
And it's amazing that you extrapolate from one action in the video, the proficiency of these divers!
On the contrary, I do understand the concept of what context is, however, the point I am making is that with some things, context is not particularly relevant.
The guys in the video are not diving commercial work with hard hats and boots on - they are using fins. This means that they shouldn't be silting out the bottom at all ideally. However, you feel that I do not understand the context in which they are standing on the bottom. Perhaps you could explain to me the benefit or value of standing
Some things like standing on the bottom in fins have little to no context in which it is acceptable. I will concede that if perhaps they are filming a production on "what not to do while diving" or perhaps " poor diving practices" or something of that nature, then you're right, and I apologize.
The danger I am referring to is what is generally the reason why we see divers standing, which is simply the lack of buoyancy control, which is the most basic of skills required in safe
diving, and especially on the technical level. If a problem arose in mid water and you had to hold a stop within fairly tight tolerances, and there was a lack of skill refinement to accomplish this, then that is the accident waiting to happen.
I do find it curious that you seem to selectively answer some of my questions and not others. As you can see, I've been completely forthcoming with anything you've asked, but somehow, you're not reciprocating.
in some ways we all are. When I'm on the net reading this stuff, I'm obviously not out diving. However, I do the dives too. You, on the other hand, have not answered my question on your particular skill level or certification. This would help put your comments in "context" of value in my assessment. As well, you also failed to mention what value there is in standing on the bottom being filmed, as that still eludes me.
What's your certification level and experience in what we're talking about? I was trained most recently GUE tech 2 with Dan Mackay in Kingston, Ontario. How about you?
Arm chair expert, LOL. I suppose that's better than being called retarded.
I'm not sure why having more to say than less is a bad thing. If that's your biggest issue with what I'm saying, that's kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel.
When an action (like the standing we see in the video) at best has no value (unless again you care to explain to me what value you see in that) and could potentially be damaging, then there is very little context I can see that would be of any relevance.
As an analogy, look at something else that at best has no value and could
potentially be damaging - like making derogatory comments to someone (kind of like what you did in one of your early responses to me). Is there any context under which an action such as that would add value? Could it be potentially damaging? What context could that be placed in?
And given your unwillingness to share your training and experience (as I have with you), I can only assume that you don't have the training nor experience to back your comments. If there's any arm-chair experts here,
@wlo93 So you're one of these fabled elitist jerks that think they know everything about a certain topic just because the do it? I wonder who the real retard is...
wlo93, I hope I have explained to you the 'benefit' of 'standing' was huge. Now our audience can watch the 3d cmputer graphics of the blue hole and understand much more about its structure.
wlo93, If you were talking about the divers 'standing at the bottom of the blue hole' that as done for a very specific purpose: for 3D computer graphics of the Blue Hole. These divers can perfectly hover over the bottom but for the production purposes, we were working on the documentary about the accidents in BH, we needed to demonstrate how easily one can bring the silt off he bottom of the BH.
@wlo93 man .... chill out. they are standing on sand and rocks.... i dont think that tha biosystem of the regeon will be even bothered by that. ALL divers tha have a common sense, are friends to the underwater environment..... but i really dont notice any corals or sensitive spicies... swimming around those ROCKS AND SAND...... chill out and dive safe. cheers from greece
@wlo93 man .... chill out. they are standing on sand and rocks.... i dont think that tha biosystem of the region will be even bothered by that. ALL divers that have a common sense, are friends to the underwater environment..... but i really dont notice any corals or sensitive spicies... swimming around those ROCKS AND SAND...... chill out and dive safe. cheers from greece
For the simple fact that if you're doing dives of this complexity, this demonstrates a lack of proficiency in buoyancy control, which is absolutely critical in ensuring a safe dive for you and your team. Eventually, they will have to ascend and assuming that they'll be doing staged decompression, holding neutral during gas switches and dealing with any emergent situations would require spot on buoyancy control. Not to mention that this sort of behaviour propogates the notion that standing
or contacting the bottom or any part of the marine environment is acceptable. This is not a recreational dive and if one is to undertake such a dive, basic skills like buoyancy control need to be mastered to the point where it becomes second nature, which is evidently lacking in the divers based on the actions we see,
Also as a photographer, there is nothing worse than seeing people standing on the bottom as this can quickly destroy the visibility (and where I dive normally in fresh water,
silting up the bottom can result in dramatically reduced or lost visibility, which may not clear for hours. And surely even you can see the danger in that.
We're not even talking about any possible damage to living things in the sand or things that could potentially harm the divers either.
@wlo93: "...basic skills like buoyancy control need to be mastered to the point where it becomes second nature, which is evidently lacking in the divers based on the actions we see,.."
Yeah, Trimix divers at ~300ft must lack buoyancy skills.
I would bet they just left the existing Nitrox stickers on them.. Their trimix stickers are probably on the top. Divers with that much training KNOW what is in their tanks RIGHT BEFORE they dive.. At least they should... I love the weights strapped to their tanks for rear ballast.. Good idea
..but nitrox with generally more oxygen is even much more unappropriate for these depths, than common compressed air, isn't it? Don't you rather need a trimix-gas?
Nitrox at 100m? What is the mix? I mean the doubles said Nitrox in it and I guess the small ones where O2 for decompression. the would be a toxic mix...
You would not dive 100m on air (Nitrox 2) either. Since the ppO2 of Air will be toxic at 66m!
O2 will become toxic at a ppO2 of 1,6bar.
My calculation:
1.6bar divided 0.21bar = 7.6bar - 1bar for the one ATM at the surface gives you 66m
I been diving at the blue hole - I have been working in Dahab, so I do not believe that divers who can't even hover at the bottom (standing!!) would, be at 90 meters, probably 90feet or so.
Nice video - just goes to show that you can safely get to the bottom of the Blue Hole. Who'd have thought all it takes is training, experience and good sense!
Anybody run a 100m deep dive would not stay at the bottom, run the charts...
Considering nitrox bottles on the guys they were no more than 30-35m, Obviously unless they filled the wrong gas into the bottles. If still trimix then.... welll, they took their chances.
dsnettryst : I assume you are not a very experience diver, I mean you are not a tech diver, right? The bottom gas used for the dive was 13/65 (the bottom mix) two stages are for decompression EAN 50% and OXYGEN.
ok, I was not clear. You used nitrox labelled bottles for trimix? My last dive to 105m needed 2x15ltr bottom mix, 2x10ltr travel and deco mix, 1x6 lit EAN60 and 1x6 EAN100. my TBT was 30 minutes. This gave me easily one third backup regradless of any failure. All I'm saying that it you may have bounced down to 100m but where you prepared for any contingencies? Extra mask, reel (if you like I enjoy penetrating wrecks), knife, 2 thirds rule, correctly marked bottles, etc....
dsnettryst , Well these divers did 100 m dive as a part of production (filming for the 'Sacred Truth' They were not supposed to do any "serious dive" but to descent down to 100 m and spend like 2 min. there. I believe they used 13/65 tmx (stickers on top) and 50 +100 EAN, yes their tanks marked "nitrox" were rented from a local dive shop.
i have never done a 100M dive before, only a few dives between the range of 120-152ft. but whats the points of doing this dive besides saying that you have done this, theres litteraly almust nothing to see at that depth ( i am assuming ). if you ask me, i am perfectly content with my 30-60ft reef dives down here in the keys!
your stages are qiete rott
TheBubbler12 2 weeks ago
Bungeed Wing, 'nuff said.
mtvreject006 3 weeks ago
The best is the the Slovakian DIR team is using this video as an example of bad and dangerous diving and thay sais its a wonder that these two guys are alive. It just proves to me that DIR morons have no idea what are they talking about. Oh and yes PADI TEC REC is the worst training system ever because DIR morons invented diving in their opinion.
a6km 1 month ago
you're all teets
tamadrunx86 1 month ago
great video ,great dive but coments sucks . My juicy cock with a lot of veins like power cables is smarter than theese guys.
Bosqueveins 1 month ago
100m is no problem for a tech diver with a mixed gas rig. It's well beyond fatal for a rec diver with an air tank. Somebody should have written that it on a stick and beaten Yuri Lipski upside the head with it.
EntropicMisanthropic 1 month ago
shit thats alot of air you need to carry. you have some real balls. i only have enough balls to dive what? 30m not 100m.
kwfsuperstar 1 month ago
@gaggotgaggot at least tell me you got an aowd padi card
a6km 2 months ago
@gaggotgaggot yes you are the best diver in the world, you have the BEST certification in the world as you said
a6km 2 months ago 3
@a6km Hei !! I'm new in the discussion but I'd like to say I'm friends with Prince Charles and played a lot of domino with Betty (yeah, the queen and I are very close :-D
HAHA, here we're only but EVERYTHING we wanna be. As well as "mr. submarine" who's gone 145m. had a tea with Neptunus & Aquaman and which, by the way, is certificated by "Atlantis hiking institution".
erikborgersen 1 month ago
@gaggotgaggot Clueless is that moron in your head which is called the brain.A piece of plastic card makes you the best?You are lucky to be still alive with an attitude towards diving like this but you are a perfect candidate for GUY/DIR, you will fit in perfectly in that group of I know everything cause I have the best plastic card. And I have a PADI as well and I was in caves and on 50m deco dives and but I`m nowhere near these two guys in this video. Get a brain first then dive
a6km 2 months ago
Nice footage. EXCELLENT
FOscum 3 months ago
@goofyboy99 Ever heard of manners? Apperntly Not. No Shit I Know What Tech Diving is Dumbass
marioplayer50 3 months ago
@goofyboy99 omg y ou got me. now I am really8 going to shut up and stop posting on youtube. thanks.
musiclover2161 3 months ago
hes one of the best deep water divers in the world this guy do your homework ffs, and the tanks are 02 clean for the use of nitrox, they would also have to be o2 clean for trimix as pure 02 is added to the cylinders nas the mix is filled, he is at 100m and of course hes using trimix, if it was 36 nitrox, he would be dead at 40 m, learn then comment
shortyuk100 4 months ago
Wow! Intense! I am scared to death of deep diving. I'll stick to the shallow reef / no deco diving but cool video even if it does give me the willies :)
kinjari 5 months ago 2
Info for all you doubts and wanna be know it alls. I have lived and worked in Sharm el Sheikh for 8 years. I have dived the blue hole numerous times. I know Lee very well. The video is true, they are diving mixed gas, and believe me Lee can hover better with 4 tanks then most of you with one.
ewoutvw 5 months ago
Brave diving in the blue hole i definatley wouldnt do it until i am ready
DaGamer500 5 months ago
It's so, it's so...blue!
ScubaDude79 5 months ago
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seasnake321 6 months ago
dud, how about diving with 8 or 9 some times ;D
Boo2TubeYou 6 months ago
How the FUCK Could you swim with four tanks? I only dive with one or two.
marioplayer50 6 months ago
RIP Yuri Lipski
kotzundspring 6 months ago
They dove on Nitrox only? Isn't it wrong?
natalia9316 6 months ago
@natalia9316 Guess nitrox is for deco, can't go that deep on Nitrox
MoussartProds 5 months ago
i agree babe4fish13, but there are some good dive story sites on the net too. Try the myscubastory site. They have real life dive stories and dive accident videos. Put myscubastory into google, and its the first result.
marinefish321 7 months ago
:):):)
wolfbg00 7 months ago
As a rescue diver trimix 50, 40 nitrox, master diver, dive master, instructer and more... I am warning you open water divers and even master divers and others IF YOU DON'T HAVE TRIMIX DON'T DIVE TO THE BOTTOM you will regret it if you do by some reason live
metelfann3 8 months ago
Nice vid :)
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seasnake321 8 months ago
Stroke your cocks like a sea cucumber for this gay ass video...
nachochezz 8 months ago
@nachochezz GAY ASS VIDEO. DONT KNOW WHY PEOPLE PUT THIS CRAP ON UTUBE
musiclover2161 8 months ago
@musiclover2161 agreed
nachochezz 8 months ago
It doesn't do what it says on the tin. The back gas is not nitrox, it's trimix as any competent person would realise. The two nitrox blends are in the sling cylinders, which they are clearly not breathing from and won't until they begin decompressing at a much shallower depth. As for bouyancy, anyone who like Leigh can hover motionless with quads at six metres and deploy an SMB with their mask removed can comment. Anyone else would be wise to reserve their opinion.
Blowfishead 8 months ago
It doesn't do what it says on the tin. The back gas is not nitrox, it's trimix as any competent person would realise. The two nitrox blends are in the sling cylinders, which they are clearly not breathing from and won't until they begin decompressing at a much shallower depth. As for bouyancy, anyone who like Leigh can hover motionless with quads at six metres and deploy an SMB with their mask removed can comment. Anyone else would be wise to reserve their opinion.
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SuperEasytiger 9 months ago
@jowrab a deep hole under water.
uhateusaFU 9 months ago
beautiful footage
pwnicorn1 10 months ago
It's impossible that video is made at 100m... they had nitrox, and it's not used in very deep waters...
filly171 10 months ago
@filly171
The nitrox is used as deco gas at shallow depths to assist with off gassing
MrFluxinator 10 months ago
@MrFluxinator yea and they take 2 12l tanks of it for deco? on their backs? '-.-
WeRideTonite 10 months ago
@WeRideTonite what gas they take the most of is determined by their dive profile
MrFluxinator 9 months ago
yea scuba2shark, you can also get more stories on the web, try the myscubastory site. Type myscubastory into google and its the first one, good luck!
marinefish321 11 months ago
From what I understand if you try to put a trimix gas into a NITROX tank there's a good chance to have an explosion.
Trimix tanks are for trimix only.
Am I wrong?
I'm only a NITROX diver but I had that discussion with a Trimix filling station.
studiogeorge 1 year ago
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SuperEasytiger 1 year ago
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SuperEasytiger 1 year ago
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you were not there peroid.
shawnstam 1 year ago
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ven10jed 1 year ago
Is That The Other Side Of The Blue Hole Cus Thats Not The Blue Hole At All!!!!
Fawziraq 1 year ago
to this depth you use trimix
mxkid123 1 year ago
It disturbs me that they're doing a tec dive but are still incompetent enough to not have proper buoyancy control and decide they have to stand on the bottom. Come on guys.
aorr 1 year ago
@aorr Lee Cunningham is probably one of the most experienced tek divers in the world and i wouldnt called him incompetent he is a TDI Instructor Trainer
tubby61 1 year ago 2
@aorr It is clear they just wanted to stand on the bottom and shake hands for the camera. How did you deduce that they could not maintain their buoyancy when this video is a minute and forty five seconds long? What a retarded comment.
carlyonbeachfire 11 months ago 40
@carlyonbeachfire and all see at the end its more deper becouse its darker on the ground
eooe1 4 months ago
@aorr :Leigh used to hold the world depth record, and is a CMAS 3 star instructor, NACD and NSS/CDS Technical Cave Diver, SDI Course Director, TDI Adv. Trimix Instructor trainer, PSA Advanced Trimix Instructor Trainer, IANTD Adv Trimix Instructor, DSAT Tec. Trimix Instructor. Do you have a similar level of experience in order to start making these comments? Or are you just going to shut up now or realise that if they are standing its because they want to and not due to incompetence?
richardellipsis 9 months ago 10
@richardellipsis I have padi certification. the best you can get!
johnmarella 5 months ago
@johnmarella you can stick your certification up your ass
a6km 2 months ago
@richardellipsis he must be a DIR expert cause they think they are bullet proof
a6km 2 months ago
nitrox? lol guess those tanks are pulling double duty
TNT32104 1 year ago
Con nitrox a 100 metri???????????????????
gianni3037 1 year ago
Nitrox cylinders will never be used for another blend than nitrox. The nitrox is used for decompression stops from the level on which it's allowed to be used (depends on the oxygen level).
ezeyme 1 year ago
@ezeyme AIr is notrox , its nitrox 21, in fact any mix of O2 and N2 is nitrox.
fatchancer 1 year ago
I think they were just using NITROX marked cylinders with a Trimix because the maximum safe level of oxygen at 100 meters is 14.5% no way someone can survive even on air at that depth, never mind NITROX...
frosty4700 1 year ago
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frosty4700 1 year ago
all i do in the seawater is a poo...then i get out
buttsecksist 1 year ago 2
Nice to watch Leigh Cunningham and Ian Paris at work. Just goes to show you can do the Blue Hole safely, and remember what you saw, with a bit of planning and common sense. Great video, tidy kit config. I guess that's what comes of doing it day-in and day-out.
porticoman 1 year ago
and when I saw the nitrox stickes I went omg... they didn't? :D
mkrmec 1 year ago
its soooooooooooooo pretty :DD
cookiepwnsU 1 year ago
Pussies, William Trubridge made an unassisted freedives to 90+ meters
15CenterMass 1 year ago 3
I just wanna know, what and where in the world is a blue hole?
theBlue123498 1 year ago
@theBlue123498 dahab, egypt.
SloppierTAY 1 year ago
This is refreshing since all of the videos and account that i have seen of this place have all involved death to this point. Nice.... those ar the first video i have seen that were actually beautiful... with the excetion of the Arch freedive but that doesnt show the bottum... that is amiazing.
15CenterMass 1 year ago
Nitrox is able in all kinda diffrent blends.
That Means that they dont have to use Stikstof 79%(dont know english word)
But that they can fill it up aswell with helium. But is expensive.
They you diff bottles with diff oxigen lvl's and diff mixes.
It';s not dangerous to go that deep as long you know how to dive. And use the right mix or mixes. I just finished my Padi Dive master. So i allso needed to know some things about diff air and thse things. Really intresting.
Keeep diving:D
emiledekruif 1 year ago
tec divers only!
in my opinion, divers who 'try' this dive with normal equipment, should get their brevetation/license revoked for lifetime... but because this dive might be suicide with air or nitrox32, it is not necessary...
I mean, no one of would drive voluntary against a wall with 160mph...?
Netzblockierer 1 year ago
nice, cant wait to try it out
caspervision 1 year ago
Yeah, right. 90m with with nitrox ?!?!?
thats a joke
scmontoya 1 year ago
90m with nitrox? That's a laugh. Nitrox is blended for shallower longer dives. It is very dangerous at deeper depths. Nitrox will likely kill you at 90m from oxygen toxicity, not to mention 100m.
HunterPilot24 1 year ago
@HunterPilot24
watch the Yuri Lipski footage on youtube... That is exactly what happened to him. He went to to 90M in Blue Hole alone, had about enough time to show his his depth meter to his Video cam and impress himself before he lost his marbles and filmed his own death... Fuckin Spooky shit!
15CenterMass 1 year ago
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jonybeam 1 year ago
@jonybeam Good! :))
scubazmei 1 year ago
name of the song plzzzzz (:
TheTrippingHazzard 1 year ago
@TheTrippingHazzard
djuma soundsystems - les djinns
gambitvcm 1 year ago
looks fun
TheMasterNeko 1 year ago
Once the two guys decided to move it appeared that they had plenty of bouyancy control and were only 'just' negative on the bottom. It's all been a storm in a tea-cup aint it?
Berkcam 2 years ago
I have to go with CarMoves here... I'm a professional diver and cameraman and know that to get a perfectly steady film shot one often needs to be 'on the bottom'. Techie divers go right over the top with all this frog-kicking, trim etc nonsense - sometimes there's a place for it sometimes there aint - live with it!
Berkcam 2 years ago
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wlo93 2 years ago
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Funny, i don't see the guys in the video holding a camera of any sort.
wlo93 2 years ago
Berkcam , this video was done for blue hole documentary's computer graphics/animation. The divers had to stay at the bottom to demonstrate the angle of a slope [see BH 3D computer graphics]
scubazmei 2 years ago
@scubazmei I'm with you on this - the how, why, when of the divers standing on the bottom is pointless - they were doing no harm and as you say the was a reason for it. I have no doubt those were two very proficient divers... unlike many of the jerks that venture into that dive site.
Berkcam 2 years ago
What a prime example of piss poor diving practices.
wlo93, your words are right on the money.
CarMoves, you're a big mouth, know nothing, excuse of a not knowledgeable diver. Even though I have my doubts that you've ever dived anywhere except your bath tub. Clown.
aquaoren 2 years ago
Great another GUE loudmouth
George Irvine would be proud.
CarMoves 2 years ago 4
aquaoren, read my post regarding the divers in the video pls
scubazmei 2 years ago
@wlo93 you are retarded.
All of your concerns relate to shallower depths. These guys are at ~300ft, they are NOT standing on coral and destroying sea life. They are also "standing", not doing relay races, there is almost no silting. And even if it did silt, they are not in a cave, they could ascend a few feet and be in the clear.
I have seen many National Geographic photographers do this same thing -- even a famous photo with a whale "standing" next to one.
The guys aren't newbies!
CarMoves 2 years ago
Well, I won't resort to returning the name calling or making it personal, as that's really not productive.
Poorly trained divers are poorly trained divers, regardless of certification or skill level. Good buoyancy control is a universal skill that does not go out the window the deeper you go, as you seem to imply. Similarly, it does not make it ok to silt out a dive site as long as the site is not in a cave. That's just ridiculous.
Your suggestion that it is ok to silt out the bottom as
wlo93 2 years ago
they can simply rise up a few feet is really a selfish attitude as it lacks consideration to other divers that may be following or subsequent divers that may do the same dive. Really not a good idea. It's sort of like justifying littering by saying that all I need to do is to cross the street as I won't see the garbage I just left behind me.
Being "Trimix" trained does not impart a certainty of proficient dive skills. There are agencies and instructors who are more than willing to give out
wlo93 2 years ago
c-card so long as the fee is paid and the time put into the course. I will say that it is difficult to assess diver skills based on that video clip, but I cannot imagine a situation on a dive like that where it would be necessary to stand on the bottom, even if you're shooting video.
You say that there are some National Geo divers that stand on the bottom while videoing? I believe it as I've been with a few also while on dives but that doesn't make it right either.
wlo93 2 years ago
"...ok to silt out the bottom... other divers that may be following..."
As you can see, they are NOT silting out the bottom, and I doubt there are other divers around, since they are at 3-0-0 f-e-e-t!
"...Being 'Trimix' trained does not impart ... proficient dive skills..."
Really? Care to tell us your current cert level?
"...but I cannot imagine a situation... where it would be necessary to stand on the bottom..."
They were being filmed in a production about the Blue Hole.
CarMoves 2 years ago
You know, I haven't quite figured out if you're just yanking my chain or you truly believe what you're saying. I do find it quite incredulous, though, if it is the latter. But since I don't really know, I will assume the latter.
You say that the divers are not silting out the bottom? That's not really the issue. The issue is that these actions propogate the notion that it is ok to do what they are doing, and you justify it by saying that it's ok as long as there's no silt. It's just plain bad
wlo93 2 years ago
form. As a photographer, it is really irritating to follow divers around a site like the ones on this video since they may not be silting it up enough to lose all visibility, but it is definitely enough to show up in any photos. Again, it's that lack of consideration or lack of any clue that divers continue to do these sorts of things.
And I don't quite understand why you think that because the divers are at 300 ft that there could be no other divers? The camera man for one, and unless he is
wlo93 2 years ago
diving solo, there's another diver. And really, it has nothing to do with being at a certain depth. Certain things hold true at any depth, and leaving the environment untouched in any way is what all divers should strive for. If these guys feel it ok to stand on the bottom at 300 ft, they'll do it at 200 ft or 100 ft, or is it only ok if they think that no-one else will dive there? That's pretty arrogant to think that they can be the only ones diving there.
As for trimix trained divers having
wlo93 2 years ago
substandard skills, absolutely. I've seen it first hand. As for my certifications, I'm not sure what that has to do with these two apparently "Skilled" divers standing on the bottom, but if you really want to know, I am trimix trained by two agencies - TDI Trimix and GUE Tech 2. I don't know if this means anything to you, but there you go. How about you?
And for the record, I still truly do not understand why there is a need for these guys to be standing on the bottom because they are
wlo93 2 years ago
being filmed for a production. And I ask this quite sincerely what purpose does this serve? And being filmed doing it? Personally, if it were me doing that, I'd be embarassed.
Oh, you didn't call me retarded or some other politically incorrect name this time - you must be slipping. ;)
wlo93 2 years ago
You seem to not userstand the concept of "context".
Why do we have a rule to maintain good buoyancy for pristine visibility? Well it depends on "context". In a cave, your life depends on good visibility; in a reef it is for courtesy to other divers and to not destroying marine life; on a salvage dive, you must contact the bottom, silting everything otherwise you couldn't do your job.
CarMoves 2 years ago 2
And how long does a silt-out last? Again, it depends on "context". In a cave, it can last a very long time due to low water flow; in the ocean with a current, is dissipates quickly.
So, at 300ft down, during a commercial photo shoot, putting the silt-out rule into "context", makes the issue not a "danger waiting to happen" as you noted in your initial posting.
And it's amazing that you extrapolate from one action in the video, the proficiency of these divers!
Another arm-chair expert.
CarMoves 2 years ago
On the contrary, I do understand the concept of what context is, however, the point I am making is that with some things, context is not particularly relevant.
The guys in the video are not diving commercial work with hard hats and boots on - they are using fins. This means that they shouldn't be silting out the bottom at all ideally. However, you feel that I do not understand the context in which they are standing on the bottom. Perhaps you could explain to me the benefit or value of standing
wlo93 2 years ago
on the bottom?
Some things like standing on the bottom in fins have little to no context in which it is acceptable. I will concede that if perhaps they are filming a production on "what not to do while diving" or perhaps " poor diving practices" or something of that nature, then you're right, and I apologize.
The danger I am referring to is what is generally the reason why we see divers standing, which is simply the lack of buoyancy control, which is the most basic of skills required in safe
wlo93 2 years ago
diving, and especially on the technical level. If a problem arose in mid water and you had to hold a stop within fairly tight tolerances, and there was a lack of skill refinement to accomplish this, then that is the accident waiting to happen.
I do find it curious that you seem to selectively answer some of my questions and not others. As you can see, I've been completely forthcoming with anything you've asked, but somehow, you're not reciprocating.
You call me an arm-chair expert. Perhaps so
wlo93 2 years ago
in some ways we all are. When I'm on the net reading this stuff, I'm obviously not out diving. However, I do the dives too. You, on the other hand, have not answered my question on your particular skill level or certification. This would help put your comments in "context" of value in my assessment. As well, you also failed to mention what value there is in standing on the bottom being filmed, as that still eludes me.
So how about it?
wlo93 2 years ago
What's your certification level and experience in what we're talking about? I was trained most recently GUE tech 2 with Dan Mackay in Kingston, Ontario. How about you?
Arm chair expert, LOL. I suppose that's better than being called retarded.
wlo93 2 years ago
You win!
How can anyone debate a guy who makes his point with 5 posts per reply, and wonders why all of his points aren't being addressed?
When I read an amazingly logical statement like the following, I know I'm done:
"with some things, context is not particularly relevant."
Touché!
Well, dive safe, bro, I need to go find a cliff...
CarMoves 2 years ago
I'm not sure why having more to say than less is a bad thing. If that's your biggest issue with what I'm saying, that's kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel.
When an action (like the standing we see in the video) at best has no value (unless again you care to explain to me what value you see in that) and could potentially be damaging, then there is very little context I can see that would be of any relevance.
As an analogy, look at something else that at best has no value and could
wlo93 2 years ago
potentially be damaging - like making derogatory comments to someone (kind of like what you did in one of your early responses to me). Is there any context under which an action such as that would add value? Could it be potentially damaging? What context could that be placed in?
And given your unwillingness to share your training and experience (as I have with you), I can only assume that you don't have the training nor experience to back your comments. If there's any arm-chair experts here,
wlo93 2 years ago
I don't think it's me.
Anyway, it's been fun. Off to go diving.
wlo93 2 years ago
wlo93 , so what ??? Good you were trained by Dan Mackay what it has to do with this video?
scubazmei 2 years ago
@wlo93: I hope you enjoyed your training, even though it's hard to believe it, you sound VERY immature. I hope you're better than that
jaydias13 1 year ago
@wlo93 So you're one of these fabled elitist jerks that think they know everything about a certain topic just because the do it? I wonder who the real retard is...
Fond3ll 1 year ago
wlo93, the diver in the video is Leigh Cuningham and I wish every diver had his ability to control their buoyancy.
scubazmei 2 years ago
wlo93, I hope I have explained to you the 'benefit' of 'standing' was huge. Now our audience can watch the 3d cmputer graphics of the blue hole and understand much more about its structure.
scubazmei 2 years ago
wlo93, If you were talking about the divers 'standing at the bottom of the blue hole' that as done for a very specific purpose: for 3D computer graphics of the Blue Hole. These divers can perfectly hover over the bottom but for the production purposes, we were working on the documentary about the accidents in BH, we needed to demonstrate how easily one can bring the silt off he bottom of the BH.
scubazmei 2 years ago
wlo93 , from my point of view it's pretty arrogant to think you that 'you the one who is right' and 'you know it better' than anyone esle.
scubazmei 2 years ago
@wlo93 whats wrong with them standing on the bottom? its not like its a reef or somethin its just regular old bottom
titsgalore48 1 year ago
@wlo93 man .... chill out. they are standing on sand and rocks.... i dont think that tha biosystem of the regeon will be even bothered by that. ALL divers tha have a common sense, are friends to the underwater environment..... but i really dont notice any corals or sensitive spicies... swimming around those ROCKS AND SAND...... chill out and dive safe. cheers from greece
liagian 1 year ago
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@wlo93 man .... chill out. they are standing on sand and rocks.... i dont think that tha biosystem of the region will be even bothered by that. ALL divers that have a common sense, are friends to the underwater environment..... but i really dont notice any corals or sensitive spicies... swimming around those ROCKS AND SAND...... chill out and dive safe. cheers from greece
liagian 1 year ago
omg i would get a heart attack in a sec if i saw a shark at that depth no way so scary
mersin84 2 years ago
@mersin84
the blue hole isnt open sea. i dont think u'll find sharks in there
6nima9 2 years ago
anything nice to see down there?
I was at the Blue hole in October, but not at 100m
scareface999 2 years ago
100 m dive just to stand up at the botton and shake hands is STUPID.
mbernardo00 2 years ago
any dive is good even if you go to 20 metres to have a shit
Shmooooon 2 years ago 22
Yeah, kind of like when they "just" stood on the moon.
Get back on the sofa
CarMoves 2 years ago
Pretty scary looking divers. I can see an accident waiting to happen. The least they could do is not stand on the bottom,
wlo93 2 years ago
Why should'nt you stand on the bottom? How is that dangerous? Just asking.
FatherTuck 2 years ago
In your obviously tech-diver expert opinion, what is the "accident" you foresee? Why not stand on the bottom, will elves appear and attack them?
CarMoves 2 years ago
For the simple fact that if you're doing dives of this complexity, this demonstrates a lack of proficiency in buoyancy control, which is absolutely critical in ensuring a safe dive for you and your team. Eventually, they will have to ascend and assuming that they'll be doing staged decompression, holding neutral during gas switches and dealing with any emergent situations would require spot on buoyancy control. Not to mention that this sort of behaviour propogates the notion that standing
wlo93 2 years ago
or contacting the bottom or any part of the marine environment is acceptable. This is not a recreational dive and if one is to undertake such a dive, basic skills like buoyancy control need to be mastered to the point where it becomes second nature, which is evidently lacking in the divers based on the actions we see,
Also as a photographer, there is nothing worse than seeing people standing on the bottom as this can quickly destroy the visibility (and where I dive normally in fresh water,
wlo93 2 years ago
silting up the bottom can result in dramatically reduced or lost visibility, which may not clear for hours. And surely even you can see the danger in that.
We're not even talking about any possible damage to living things in the sand or things that could potentially harm the divers either.
That is why.
wlo93 2 years ago
@wlo93: "...basic skills like buoyancy control need to be mastered to the point where it becomes second nature, which is evidently lacking in the divers based on the actions we see,.."
Yeah, Trimix divers at ~300ft must lack buoyancy skills.
CarMoves 2 years ago
having fun down there were we leigh?
tubby61 2 years ago
nice hole
vaagen58 2 years ago
I would bet they just left the existing Nitrox stickers on them.. Their trimix stickers are probably on the top. Divers with that much training KNOW what is in their tanks RIGHT BEFORE they dive.. At least they should... I love the weights strapped to their tanks for rear ballast.. Good idea
MASTERPPA 2 years ago
Leigh will know trust me!
tubby61 2 years ago
Nitrox is not appropriate for deep dives cause partial pressure ppo of oxygen becomes to high
--> therefore you would suffer oxygen poisoning.... and die :-) i.e. drowning.
Deep dives are made with trimix as bottom gas.
Nitrox is used as decompression gas.
At depths of about 6m (Never more !) pure oxygen sometimes is being used to make faster decompression.
Usamaibnladen 2 years ago
..but nitrox with generally more oxygen is even much more unappropriate for these depths, than common compressed air, isn't it? Don't you rather need a trimix-gas?
6iz6iz6 2 years ago
6iz6iz6 : Yes you keep TMX as a bottom gas and use nitrox on the ascent as a deco ga.
scubazmei 2 years ago
Nitrox at 100m? What is the mix? I mean the doubles said Nitrox in it and I guess the small ones where O2 for decompression. the would be a toxic mix...
skriptkidjc 2 years ago 7
@skriptkidjc u haven't been in Egypt? Their nitrox = trimix :D :D :D
Toshas79 1 year ago
@Toshas79 I've Been To Egypt!!!
Fawziraq 1 year ago
@Toshas79
I have been there, before they broadly introduced Nitrox and other gases.
skriptkidjc 1 year ago
@skriptkidjc It isnt Nitrox, the tanks are just nitrox tank, air can be put into nitrox tanks.
fatchancer 1 year ago
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skriptkidjc 1 year ago
@fatchancer
You would not dive 100m on air (Nitrox 2) either. Since the ppO2 of Air will be toxic at 66m!
O2 will become toxic at a ppO2 of 1,6bar.
My calculation:
1.6bar divided 0.21bar = 7.6bar - 1bar for the one ATM at the surface gives you 66m
I been diving at the blue hole - I have been working in Dahab, so I do not believe that divers who can't even hover at the bottom (standing!!) would, be at 90 meters, probably 90feet or so.
skriptkidjc 1 year ago
@skriptkidjc You not meant too, thats true, but plenty do
fatchancer 1 year ago
@skriptkidjc : have a look at my reply, then shut up! :)
richardellipsis 9 months ago
Can anyone identify the background music?
dontosaw 2 years ago 2
the back ground music.
the aritst is=coldcut
albim=at the controls
track=les djinns/walk a mile in my shoes
:)
meggs901 2 years ago
lota gear
cousinproductions101 2 years ago
Nice video - just goes to show that you can safely get to the bottom of the Blue Hole. Who'd have thought all it takes is training, experience and good sense!
porticoman 2 years ago 3
It's the ones that try and dive with 12l singles that give the place a bad name!
unclepeter99 2 years ago
and two tanks with the right gass's in
Foxhoundkid450 2 years ago
What was so fatal about this?
MUDVAYNE007976 2 years ago
it never said it was fatal, it's a response video.
Ubergynormousmullet 2 years ago
nice vid
devzor162 2 years ago
guarda questi cretini come stanno in piedi...si datevi pure la mano
aqva7 2 years ago
Beh, a ben guardare il fondale su cui sono appoggiati di danni non ne potevan fare... è tutta roccia e sabbia.
CONGER 2 years ago
Anybody run a 100m deep dive would not stay at the bottom, run the charts...
Considering nitrox bottles on the guys they were no more than 30-35m, Obviously unless they filled the wrong gas into the bottles. If still trimix then.... welll, they took their chances.
dsnettryst 2 years ago
dsnettryst, Why if anybody dives 100 m they "wouldn't stay on the bottom"???!!
scubazmei 2 years ago
dsnettryst : I assume you are not a very experience diver, I mean you are not a tech diver, right? The bottom gas used for the dive was 13/65 (the bottom mix) two stages are for decompression EAN 50% and OXYGEN.
scubazmei 2 years ago
ok, I was not clear. You used nitrox labelled bottles for trimix? My last dive to 105m needed 2x15ltr bottom mix, 2x10ltr travel and deco mix, 1x6 lit EAN60 and 1x6 EAN100. my TBT was 30 minutes. This gave me easily one third backup regradless of any failure. All I'm saying that it you may have bounced down to 100m but where you prepared for any contingencies? Extra mask, reel (if you like I enjoy penetrating wrecks), knife, 2 thirds rule, correctly marked bottles, etc....
Your vis was great!
dsnettryst 2 years ago
dsnettryst , Well these divers did 100 m dive as a part of production (filming for the 'Sacred Truth' They were not supposed to do any "serious dive" but to descent down to 100 m and spend like 2 min. there. I believe they used 13/65 tmx (stickers on top) and 50 +100 EAN, yes their tanks marked "nitrox" were rented from a local dive shop.
scubazmei 2 years ago
i have never done a 100M dive before, only a few dives between the range of 120-152ft. but whats the points of doing this dive besides saying that you have done this, theres litteraly almust nothing to see at that depth ( i am assuming ). if you ask me, i am perfectly content with my 30-60ft reef dives down here in the keys!
Kingrob0326 2 years ago