Fuck whistlers. If you want some really explosive hardcore punk, have yall checked out 400 blows. Definitely reminds me of 'meantime' Look for Sickness and Health.
I liked when Paige would sing this way. He had a unique, dark-sound to his tone. Ever since Size Matters came out & also on Monochrome he either sings with a rasp or a higher pitch.
Either you or your buddy has a duty to the music gods, punishible by being forced to endure hrs. of live Britney Spears bootleg tapes, if the mentioned 1 live helmet bootleg is not posted in its entirety here on youtube for all the Helmet minions to enjoy. : )
i agree with tauroscorp. How do you define metal then? alternative metal was very popular in the 90's. some examples are korn, faith no more, rage against the machine, and powerman 5000, and obviously helmet. They are all alternative metal and "metal" in my book.
I think that in this day and age you would be right, but at the time that Helmet came onto the scene, they wouldn't be seen as metal. Hell, punk is considered metal in a lot of circles now too, and that was considered the kiss of death to a punk band back in the day.
Still can't get enough of this clip, one of the best music clips on all of utube imho.
No way Helmet is metal, you can't be metal without double bass right? If they had to be classified I guess I'd say they are kick ass, "what kinda music is this", i'd reply; "its kick ass" nuff said lol. But really those that are into categorizing would likely call Helmet Nu Metal.
are you gonna play or look pretty?..HAHA!!.. HELMET STILL RULES!.. in my opinion, helmet was never "metal", however they rocked much harder than most in the early 90's..
I can see how they can be confusing. They are heavy art Rock, not very sure how Metal they are. My guess is that they are Metal rockers playing H-art-d Rock. ???
How u define metal then..? Are u somekind of purist..? Sure it has for example also jazz-influences in it but why not to call it metal..? It's usually defined post hardcore or alternative metal, so alternative metal isn't metal? =P Then Korn or Faith No More aren't metal either. And are u serious when u said scandinavian grindcore..? =)
I remember page hamilton saying in an interview way way back then that Hendrix's Fire was an indirect influence on the main riff. You can hear it in Stainer's fills early in the song.
If this was recorded in 1991 it was actually before the release of Meantime. Since i'm old enough to remember :(, meantime was supposed to save the world from the grunge movement of the 90's, it was highly anticipated, but fell short commercially, which was a good thing imho.Hard rock at the time consisted of slayer,metallica and hair bands,then came this redefining how and who could perform this kind of music.What made helmet great was the core,stanier,bogdan and page,they fit like a puzzle.
This video just illustrates what it must of been like being helmet back in 91. The mullet heckling "are you gonna play or just look pretty" had no clue what he was about to hear, surely could not fathom that this sound was gonna come from these pretty boys. These mullets had no clue they were witnessing music history, music so far ahead time, 4 people just flat out destroying all the rules of hard rock, 4 guys that knew the people in the crowd had never heard something like this before.
Looks like the guitarist with the cig in his mouth is sporting a black eye. This album sounds as fresh today as it did back then,floors me everytime i play it. Band should be proud for having such a distinct sound in a time when grunge was the it thing.
BTW NoPawn: you should post the version of FBLA II from this show. Not only is it one of those interesting "work-in-progress" versions, but it has my all time favorite Stanier moment, the fourth drum fill near the end. (I have the whole show on video but I don't know how to rip video clips onto a computer.)
Thats my favorite stanier moment as well. Do you have the limited edition european betty release? Has an awesome live version of fbla II, drums are unbelievable in that release.
Sure do, bcastine ... I only wish I could get the full recording from that L.A. show. The five tracks they included on the European CD of "Betty" are good, but where's the rest of the show?!?
Anyway, Helmet rocked. Page is still great but I'm not so keen on his decision to play the old stuff in Drop-C now. I think they should switch guitars and play each song in its original key.
LOL thanks NoPawn - I didn't think anyone would think I meant that Helmet is a "new" band now. They were back then though. This show was before their breakthrough album "Meantime." I meant to convey an image of several fans standing still in awe/amazement, which is why the crowd wasn't moshing enough acc. to some of the comments.
I also remember wanting to help by fixing the mic stand, but being afraid I would offend or annoy Page.
One of the best $5 shows I ever saw! Jawbox opened.
As someone who was at this show (I'm the tall red haired dude in the very front), I can say this much: they opened with a brand new, unrecorded song that would of course become an anthem, in time. I imagine most of the other audience members were, like me, standing in absolute awe of this terrifying new band, paying close attention to hear what wild time twist Page was gonna throw out next.
I never got to see this band live.
alastairjr40 1 week ago
ha ha, i'm front and center for this....
devildick1 1 week ago
After all these years......one of the most impressive riffs i ve ever heard.
JLennonOno 1 month ago
Fuck whistlers. If you want some really explosive hardcore punk, have yall checked out 400 blows. Definitely reminds me of 'meantime' Look for Sickness and Health.
jal3745 2 months ago
@jal3745 Never heard of 400 Blows so I checked them out here for about 30 seconds. You're right. Very right. The drummer alone, man.
NoPawn 2 months ago
Try the SMASHING PUMPKIMS on TV in Brazil with the Song AVA ADORE it s kinda same powerful
JLennonOno 9 months ago
unsung never gets old one of the most powerful music vids here on YT
JLennonOno 9 months ago 2
Helmet is Bad-ass.....love em
pissant75 11 months ago 4
I think it's very sweet how they show to those longhairs how to play music really hard. =)
tauroscorp 11 months ago
fuck yea 1991 the yr i was born
outer432 1 year ago
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SkeeZo13 1 year ago
geez does anyone not comment on how awesome this song and video are anymore? lol cuz i could listen to it all day haha
SkeeZo13 1 year ago 37
stop the damn whistling!
sowdster12 1 year ago
@sowdster12 huh?
NoPawn 1 year ago
@NoPawn some lady kept whistling or sometin its annoying as hell!
sowdster12 1 year ago
@sowdster12 Oh, I hear it now! I never noticed it before!
NoPawn 1 year ago
@NoPawn yea haha its bad
sowdster12 1 year ago
@NoPawn Some Jersey whore. Worst.
sta0005 11 months ago
@sowdster12 those of us with A.D.D. hate the whistling!
Poseidon500 5 months ago
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TSHNOFX 1 year ago
His voice always reminded me of "good" Ozzy
Vaga365 2 years ago 4
I liked when Paige would sing this way. He had a unique, dark-sound to his tone. Ever since Size Matters came out & also on Monochrome he either sings with a rasp or a higher pitch.
p4horror 2 years ago 2
yeah
i love that tone on in the meantime
DysisSmile 2 years ago
there still are not many bands that sound like this.they sound like a nasty machine.the drums are killer.
headsosikk 2 years ago
haha that ass "you gonna play or just look pretty" what a dick. i bet he didn't think he was gonna get his ass rocked off
Icemanwilly 3 years ago 70
beer runs the mouth
NightHawk91 2 years ago 4
my buddy has this show on vhs! it's money dude. the true killer helmet line-up!
TrueBadAss420 3 years ago 3
Either you or your buddy has a duty to the music gods, punishible by being forced to endure hrs. of live Britney Spears bootleg tapes, if the mentioned 1 live helmet bootleg is not posted in its entirety here on youtube for all the Helmet minions to enjoy. : )
bcastine1975 2 years ago
Look how fucking young page looks/is!!!
mrselfdestruct87 3 years ago
no shit dude, unreal. i met him at a show about 5 months ago in st. louis and he looks old as dirt. still jams a muthafucker though
TrueBadAss420 3 years ago
Aggro rock.
miisu 3 years ago
i like their stlye, dont the guitar player look like the one from green day(with the red pants)
Bonecracker101 3 years ago
weak crowd. i would consider them hardcore. mabe even hardcore punk. but there a little to heavy.
TheAmazingAwesomeGuy 3 years ago
grunge man!
Galwanzie 3 years ago
Not grunge.
timotastic 3 years ago
Not even CLOSE to grunge.
mplsmk2gti 3 years ago
@mplsmk2gti this is ABOVE grunge
retroguy02 1 year ago
i would say grungrock or grungemetal. i mean the solo sorta sounds metal but today metal is considered alot of different things.
screamindeacon23 3 years ago
i agree with tauroscorp. How do you define metal then? alternative metal was very popular in the 90's. some examples are korn, faith no more, rage against the machine, and powerman 5000, and obviously helmet. They are all alternative metal and "metal" in my book.
BlakeBoseph 3 years ago 2
I think that in this day and age you would be right, but at the time that Helmet came onto the scene, they wouldn't be seen as metal. Hell, punk is considered metal in a lot of circles now too, and that was considered the kiss of death to a punk band back in the day.
NoPawn 3 years ago 3
Good examination, I would have to agree with you on most of those, certianly helmet, the Dude is 50 and he still rocks out like a 25 year old
FunkMastaMegaFlex 3 years ago
@BlakeBoseph there considered post hardcore/punk...for that time ..they came up from thru the nychc scene...
briplun 11 months ago
Still can't get enough of this clip, one of the best music clips on all of utube imho.
No way Helmet is metal, you can't be metal without double bass right? If they had to be classified I guess I'd say they are kick ass, "what kinda music is this", i'd reply; "its kick ass" nuff said lol. But really those that are into categorizing would likely call Helmet Nu Metal.
bcastine1975 3 years ago 2
I would say hardcore if you want to get nuanced about it. They are straight up NYHC.
NoPawn 3 years ago
are you gonna play or look pretty?..HAHA!!.. HELMET STILL RULES!.. in my opinion, helmet was never "metal", however they rocked much harder than most in the early 90's..
ididcramsmom 3 years ago
I can see how they can be confusing. They are heavy art Rock, not very sure how Metal they are. My guess is that they are Metal rockers playing H-art-d Rock. ???
camnto 3 years ago
Their song, Unsung, is my favorite Helmet song!
TheCanadianPrairies 3 years ago
No way its their worst...listen to the other stuff for fucks sake
nabsmo 3 years ago
wow
Antianti33 3 years ago
Helmet introduced the 90's to the audience who were still in the 80's. =) Helmet is the best metal-band ever, they were really original in everyway.
tauroscorp 3 years ago 2
The are NOT metal
MetalArmy666 3 years ago
They are metal!!! Doesn't matter what people with ''metal-image'' are saying... =)
tauroscorp 3 years ago 2
Its not the image, its there music. Its not in any way shape or form metal.
MetalArmy666 3 years ago
He is right, they are roots reggae.
FUNKEYED 3 years ago 4
no, they are scandanavian grindcore
MetalArmy666 3 years ago
lol
Konformation07 3 years ago
How u define metal then..? Are u somekind of purist..? Sure it has for example also jazz-influences in it but why not to call it metal..? It's usually defined post hardcore or alternative metal, so alternative metal isn't metal? =P Then Korn or Faith No More aren't metal either. And are u serious when u said scandinavian grindcore..? =)
tauroscorp 3 years ago
And if we are prcise and if it's not metal, it's not shaking my world. Helmet is one of the best modern bands ever!
tauroscorp 3 years ago
I remember page hamilton saying in an interview way way back then that Hendrix's Fire was an indirect influence on the main riff. You can hear it in Stainer's fills early in the song.
gustavmarie 3 years ago
im so addicted to this clip.
tarpitman 3 years ago
I need a live version of Turned Out after that :(
mirak63 3 years ago
Did they do that around the Unsung time? My Helmet history is a little jagged.
NoPawn 3 years ago
If this was recorded in 1991 it was actually before the release of Meantime. Since i'm old enough to remember :(, meantime was supposed to save the world from the grunge movement of the 90's, it was highly anticipated, but fell short commercially, which was a good thing imho.Hard rock at the time consisted of slayer,metallica and hair bands,then came this redefining how and who could perform this kind of music.What made helmet great was the core,stanier,bogdan and page,they fit like a puzzle.
bcastine1975 3 years ago
Let me see if that is on this video.
NoPawn 3 years ago
I have the whole show on videotape, and yes they did play "Turned Out" and yes it was amazing
ifutureman 3 years ago 5
man you need to share that please !!!! :D
mirak63 3 years ago
Stanier is god
DrMotherfucker 3 years ago
always ahead of there time
Hooklineansinker 3 years ago
Very precious Footage !
Awesome Guitarriff.
4 smart Guys who showed the Crowd what they didn t knew before.
I believe in bcastine`s Words, you`re right Dude.
JLennonOno 3 years ago
" although wet eyes would never suit you ... "
ErikJoeNoise 3 years ago 2
This video just illustrates what it must of been like being helmet back in 91. The mullet heckling "are you gonna play or just look pretty" had no clue what he was about to hear, surely could not fathom that this sound was gonna come from these pretty boys. These mullets had no clue they were witnessing music history, music so far ahead time, 4 people just flat out destroying all the rules of hard rock, 4 guys that knew the people in the crowd had never heard something like this before.
bcastine1975 4 years ago 6
To be square, I believe that was someone they knew poking fun at them a bit. I don't think they were really trying to dis the band.
NoPawn 4 years ago
Looks like the guitarist with the cig in his mouth is sporting a black eye. This album sounds as fresh today as it did back then,floors me everytime i play it. Band should be proud for having such a distinct sound in a time when grunge was the it thing.
long219 4 years ago 5
I saw 'em live twice. Thanks for postin' this old school HELMET. Love it!
zupf 4 years ago 3
John Stanier is really an awesome drummer, the beat is so so tight and metronomic it doesn't move at all
mirak63 4 years ago 45
What's amazing is that I think Page STILL plays that red ESP guitar!
jjmckenna 4 years ago 4
BTW NoPawn: you should post the version of FBLA II from this show. Not only is it one of those interesting "work-in-progress" versions, but it has my all time favorite Stanier moment, the fourth drum fill near the end. (I have the whole show on video but I don't know how to rip video clips onto a computer.)
ifutureman 4 years ago
Thats my favorite stanier moment as well. Do you have the limited edition european betty release? Has an awesome live version of fbla II, drums are unbelievable in that release.
bcastine1975 4 years ago
Sure do, bcastine ... I only wish I could get the full recording from that L.A. show. The five tracks they included on the European CD of "Betty" are good, but where's the rest of the show?!?
Anyway, Helmet rocked. Page is still great but I'm not so keen on his decision to play the old stuff in Drop-C now. I think they should switch guitars and play each song in its original key.
ifutureman 4 years ago 2
LOL thanks NoPawn - I didn't think anyone would think I meant that Helmet is a "new" band now. They were back then though. This show was before their breakthrough album "Meantime." I meant to convey an image of several fans standing still in awe/amazement, which is why the crowd wasn't moshing enough acc. to some of the comments.
I also remember wanting to help by fixing the mic stand, but being afraid I would offend or annoy Page.
One of the best $5 shows I ever saw! Jawbox opened.
ifutureman 4 years ago
As someone who was at this show (I'm the tall red haired dude in the very front), I can say this much: they opened with a brand new, unrecorded song that would of course become an anthem, in time. I imagine most of the other audience members were, like me, standing in absolute awe of this terrifying new band, paying close attention to hear what wild time twist Page was gonna throw out next.
ifutureman 4 years ago
helmet isnt new..
droanoak 4 years ago
No, ifutureman was reminiscing about when he was at this show. He wasn't saying it happened now.
NoPawn 4 years ago
hahaha that sucks that the mic stand starts falling
UKNOWIT88 4 years ago
Those stands suck.
rikki6669 4 years ago
good..but the crowd were a bunch of ass holes....lol
jimmybob19 4 years ago
Nothing beats a New Jersey crowd!
jacouber 4 years ago
very nice drums, i love helmet
mohawkhead93 4 years ago
the crowd are a bunch of winey drunken bitches
ghost037 4 years ago
that crowd sucks ... i would be bouncing
helmet .. wish i was there
thanx for posting
radror 4 years ago
god what a retarded crowd. good performance, but the feedback in the beginning is annoying.
MyGreeniMeaniBass 4 years ago
Jon Stanier played with the Mark Of Cain one of the heaviest most amazing Australian bands of all time, chaekc em out, you wont regret it.
sonvolt77 4 years ago
john stanier was the best thing about helmet
ancestron 4 years ago
fucking ignorant no clue crowd.
kickinglimos 4 years ago 2
Hey somebody post some Handsome shit.....come on now....that would be all right by me!
pitubaby76 4 years ago
this place is 10 minutes from my house!
zaltakid2000 4 years ago
best song. great video!
riccaonweb 4 years ago
Best song ever.
Borodot 5 years ago
You are the man for posting this. Greatest band. O.G. line-up. Best album. Great perfomance. Take that!
manhattanknight 5 years ago
the Brighton!!
all hail Jacko- the king of Punk, and the guy who books all the shows at the Brighton
glad to see this bit of history survive
deodanth 5 years ago
Love the barking drunk in the crowd. Sippin' on his liquid courage.
zupf 5 years ago
I was at this show. My ears rang for 2 days after.
sonicmike 5 years ago
Hell no. Their "strap it on record" came out before this in like '89.
jonspencer12 5 years ago
I love this song. Was this one of their first peformances?
maniac111 5 years ago
holy shit
adelmanjaro 5 years ago