This is one of Bach's fugues that really sounds better on an electronic from of baroque organ. The relatively long attacks of most pipe ranks makes the precise timing this fugue requires almost impossible.
@PointyTailofSatan, Only if you're a totally mediocre organist who lacks the technical ability to achieve this on a true baroque organ. Also one must remember these organs that Koopman play are very ancient, so the action is not as they were when they were first built, but even so, there's nothing wrong with this performance.
@PointyTailofSatan Your kidding right? Electronic organs are trash, they don't even sound right. You cannot recreate through speakers the feel, charm, and atmosphere a Pipe Organ can create in a space. There's a reason why the Pipe Organ has remained the King of Instruments for over 1000+ years. There's a reason why they are built in the greatest halls, and largest Cathedrals. They cannot be matched in quality, and tone. It's impossible. Speakers are trash, go listen to a Cathedral organ.
@poopingeneral@poopingeneral Believe me. I was a console assistant (no pistons!) for one of the finest Baroque voiced tracker Casavant organs in Canada, and a favorite organ of Peter Hurford. That would be superb for this. But those kinds of small specialized organs are not that common now. A quality Rodgers or Allen organ is not a terrible substitute
@PointyTailofSatan I have one simple question: Would you choose a beautifully ornate baroque pipe organ, perfectly tuned, with proper pitch, and thousands of pipes hand crafted. Or would you choose an Allen, or Rodger's electric organ?
In my original comment, I may have come off a little hasty, for that I apologize. I do like "some" electric organs, but I've also played a few real pipe organs in my lifetime. The difference in sound, quality, and feel is definite, and undeniable.
I love this interpretation! Feels really passionate and fast-paced. Bach was something else. Something about his minor key pieces really get me. It's all amazing, but the minor ones have this other-worldly, transcendent sort of quality to them, you know? I am confused, though. I listened to another person play this piece on a different video and I swear they ended the piece with a major chord. Anyone know which Bach intended it as?
@SnarkAttack12, It's hopeless trying to establish a "final" intention by Bach. He always played things differently. This is the true art of playing baroque music; "Stylus Phantasticus". Playing with both refined intelligence and complete freedom.
@wawa314159, Baroque rhetoric was not 'clean as a whistle' as organists of today like to think. They used wild registrations and adhered very much to stylish playing. I recommend Chapius or Karl Richter to you if you'd like to hear a clearer interpretation.
@TheLurker101, I'm sure to the current generation, Lady Gaga is the only "good taste". But I suppose its better to have 190 cultivated listeners than perhaps 30 million that would never understand.
@ForcesOfRandom, Unfortunately your generation is also mine. No doubt you are correct, my comment isn't particularly pleasant because the reality of it isn't either. I have nothing personal against pop-culture, but I have no care for others who understand nothing of that which came before. Bach himself was like an alien in his day. Closed minded baroque congregations chastised him for his radical music, but the results of his ingenuity (and courage) changed the history of western music forever.
@TheLurker101 I'm not sure I agree with your statement entirely. People are not musically "tasteless" or stupid. We each have our own styles, tastes, and musical desires. Though Lady Gaga may not be my personal favorite; I find that Bach is one of my favorites, along with you, and many others out there who partake of such enchantingly divine music.
Remember that Lady Gaga is just noise, and compared to Bach in the scope of all things, Bach was passion, soul, love, divinity, and fire.
Can somebody explain me what the picture at 6:00 is?
Thanks,
S.P.
StephanePleyel 2 weeks ago
This is one of Bach's fugues that really sounds better on an electronic from of baroque organ. The relatively long attacks of most pipe ranks makes the precise timing this fugue requires almost impossible.
PointyTailofSatan 3 months ago
@PointyTailofSatan, Only if you're a totally mediocre organist who lacks the technical ability to achieve this on a true baroque organ. Also one must remember these organs that Koopman play are very ancient, so the action is not as they were when they were first built, but even so, there's nothing wrong with this performance.
advisorC101 3 months ago
@PointyTailofSatan Your kidding right? Electronic organs are trash, they don't even sound right. You cannot recreate through speakers the feel, charm, and atmosphere a Pipe Organ can create in a space. There's a reason why the Pipe Organ has remained the King of Instruments for over 1000+ years. There's a reason why they are built in the greatest halls, and largest Cathedrals. They cannot be matched in quality, and tone. It's impossible. Speakers are trash, go listen to a Cathedral organ.
poopingeneral 1 month ago
@poopingeneral @poopingeneral Believe me. I was a console assistant (no pistons!) for one of the finest Baroque voiced tracker Casavant organs in Canada, and a favorite organ of Peter Hurford. That would be superb for this. But those kinds of small specialized organs are not that common now. A quality Rodgers or Allen organ is not a terrible substitute
PointyTailofSatan 1 week ago
@PointyTailofSatan I have one simple question: Would you choose a beautifully ornate baroque pipe organ, perfectly tuned, with proper pitch, and thousands of pipes hand crafted. Or would you choose an Allen, or Rodger's electric organ?
In my original comment, I may have come off a little hasty, for that I apologize. I do like "some" electric organs, but I've also played a few real pipe organs in my lifetime. The difference in sound, quality, and feel is definite, and undeniable.
poopingeneral 1 week ago
Ah, Johan Sebastian Bach... No more.
elbiagioni 3 months ago
I love this interpretation! Feels really passionate and fast-paced. Bach was something else. Something about his minor key pieces really get me. It's all amazing, but the minor ones have this other-worldly, transcendent sort of quality to them, you know? I am confused, though. I listened to another person play this piece on a different video and I swear they ended the piece with a major chord. Anyone know which Bach intended it as?
SnarkAttack12 6 months ago
@SnarkAttack12, It's hopeless trying to establish a "final" intention by Bach. He always played things differently. This is the true art of playing baroque music; "Stylus Phantasticus". Playing with both refined intelligence and complete freedom.
advisorC101 3 months ago
This version is quite blurry. Some voices can't be heard clearly (especially the bass).
wawa314159 8 months ago
@wawa314159, Baroque rhetoric was not 'clean as a whistle' as organists of today like to think. They used wild registrations and adhered very much to stylish playing. I recommend Chapius or Karl Richter to you if you'd like to hear a clearer interpretation.
advisorC101 8 months ago
@advisorC101 Thanks! I like Chapius's version.
wawa314159 8 months ago
Moooooooooooooost amazing J.S. Bach! I love this BWV 543
Ton Koopman is an aweseome Organ player, best 4-ever! ( :
not4nothing1982 1 year ago
Oh I love this! I prefer this to his later recordings of this set! Gorgeous... :-D
codeman2008 1 year ago
No me gusta demasiado Koopman, ni su manejo de tiempos. Prefiero el estilo de Richter. No obstante esta pieza es muy buena en Koopman.
I don't like Koopman, I prefer Richter. But this piece is so good
asmodevsluxuria 1 year ago
@asmodevsluxuria, I like both Koopman and Richter.
advisorC101 1 year ago
Music conceived by a higher mind. Bach was beyond.
radioclima 1 year ago 2
people are tasteless and stupid: 190 views and this is one of the hardest things to do on an instrument
TheLurker101 1 year ago 8
@TheLurker101, I'm sure to the current generation, Lady Gaga is the only "good taste". But I suppose its better to have 190 cultivated listeners than perhaps 30 million that would never understand.
advisorC101 1 year ago 6
@advisorC101 well that wasn't really a nice thing to say about my generation...
ForcesOfRandom 6 months ago
@ForcesOfRandom, Unfortunately your generation is also mine. No doubt you are correct, my comment isn't particularly pleasant because the reality of it isn't either. I have nothing personal against pop-culture, but I have no care for others who understand nothing of that which came before. Bach himself was like an alien in his day. Closed minded baroque congregations chastised him for his radical music, but the results of his ingenuity (and courage) changed the history of western music forever.
advisorC101 6 months ago
@TheLurker101 I'm not sure I agree with your statement entirely. People are not musically "tasteless" or stupid. We each have our own styles, tastes, and musical desires. Though Lady Gaga may not be my personal favorite; I find that Bach is one of my favorites, along with you, and many others out there who partake of such enchantingly divine music.
Remember that Lady Gaga is just noise, and compared to Bach in the scope of all things, Bach was passion, soul, love, divinity, and fire.
poopingeneral 1 year ago
kewl
BassicStorm 1 year ago