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Man retract your flaps before adding full power or 1 by 1 once you established positive rate of climb! Almost hit the runway while just being in ground effect!
those 172 and early models as far as i know has 15 knots x wind limit and this is what happens when you try to land it at well i would say about 16 knots?(wind sock is about half up and kinda gust i reckon)
ok i did similar procedures but cant say its a good touch and go practice going on there.
at the end of the day when you are struggling to control the aircraft while moving the column left right oh pick that wing up pick this wing up ...and where is the time to learn ? and perfect procedure?
I was one of the pilots competing. For those who are wondering why we were not flying a cross controlled approach the rules for the landing competitions specifically forbid slipping below 100' AGL. I won't get into a debate about crosswind legality other than to comment that there were a couple of very senior instructors running the show and if they had decided it was too dangerous we would not have flown.
@SPQRTempus It is clear that at times the crosswind is out of limits for some aircraft, ZK-MDS for example (Amongst other 152's) had huge amounts of trouble negotiating a crosswind without adopting the "wing down method". The slower you go the less effective the Rudder becomes, so without the "wing down" method to supplement the rudder in those conditions, you will put sideways strain on the gear. (90% of the aircraft land sideways in this vid) Im sorry but this video frustrates me.
@SPQRTempus Why in the world would they prohibit slipping below 100 feet in a strong crosswind. That's like prohibiting landing with the gear down in a retractable.
I think anyone who dares to fly, let alone do a cross-wind touch and go, with an MDS registration is very brave. My MDS engines make good paper weights ;)
2:07 sweet, 2:22 super slick, 2:55 sweet, 04:03 hope pilot is disappionted (woose), 4:40 even worse, 5:40 Fail.... I could go on, great vid and flying by the pilots, I could do this! lol ;)
Should also add, that the crosswind is also close to or out of limits for most of them. C150 was 13 knots from memory and 172 only a couple more. Interesting to see the results of any insurance claim. Some did a pretty good job, but most were poor displays of airmanship at best.
Frustrating video to watch Bruce....! These guys are obviously bound for airlines, as they are all using the "Boeing" landing technique with zero bank into wind and landing flat but crabbed. Works for airliners only because they're built for it and don't want to scrape their engine pods on the ground. However, 152's, 172's and certainly 180's are designed to land STRAIGHT with the into-wind wing down. Also, you need to fix your windsock. It clearly isn't indicating the 15-20 knots that is there.
@drummerkid69 G'day... Well, as I recall it, there be 2 schools of Crosswinded Theology. One is to Approach with the Fuselage tracking the Runway-Heading, Into-Wind Wing-Low, and Roll Out of the Sideslip ; before the Wing digs in. T'other Church (here) Tracks Into-Wind, Wings- Level, Skewing the U/C's Axis ; until Kicking it Straight, at the Touchdown. I saw a Weight-Shift Trike try the latter, once. It's Pedals only work NOSE-WHEEL, & it Cartwheeled for him !
nice vids, excpt wow these guys really need to learn how to not put so much side load on the mains when touching down. More ailerons and less rudder when flairing jesus
@Supercub1974 your meant to keep nose into wind till your close to the ground. then when you are close you use rudder to line up to plane straight and use ailerons to keep plane from drifting of the runway from the wind. so u land leaning over into the wind on one wheel first then bring other main wheel down. most of those guys weren't doing it properly and landing a bit sideways. nothing wrong with that the planes can handle it but u wear out the tires really fast that way.
Omg. half of those guys must be suicidal to do that. don't they teach you how to do touch and goes properly in NZ ? you always retract flaps before applying power if you have touched down. half those guys didn't and were just asking to stall a wing on rotation. if i did what they were doing in a flight test here in Australia it would be an instant fail ! that's how bad it is. but other than that great video and cant wait to see more :) .
@patchrules2000 Hiya, we are taught to retract to 10 deg from fully extended and only retract fully once airborne in an established climb above 400ft. thats in a 152 or a robin that is.
Cool Video as per normal Xjet Bruce. I notice they were all crabbing in, and kicking 'em straight rather than cross control side slipping. I learnt to to fly at Hoxton Park NSW which meant cross winds almost every day due to the tree line on the eastern side of runway 34/16 until the aerodrome was closed down due to damned housing development :(
Our flying club used to have fly-ins from Hox to Moruya for Nav exercises, spot landings and BBQ then a fly home up the coast. -B!LL!
@Fugitive0Z its a shame hoxton park is gone. got big warehouses and parking lots there now. im at bankstown airport myself. i miss hoxton park it was so much quieter than bankstown and so close too.
Awesome vid! These guys have some real skill.One of the hardest things to do is a cross wind landing and it's even harder in a high wing aircraft since they tend to tip over a lot easier when they are on the ground.Practicing cross wind landings was the only time I have ever started to sweat when the temp outside was 10 degrees F...lol
damn that guy in the straight tail 172.. what a dumbass
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should have been slipping down then it wouldn't be so ugly at the bottom
woytybEE 6 days ago
I noticed the RV-6A there, but I guess they didn't want to give it a go.
Mauser712 6 days ago
REAL FUCKING IDIOT IN CESSNA MDS!!!!!!
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derry365 4 weeks ago
Man retract your flaps before adding full power or 1 by 1 once you established positive rate of climb! Almost hit the runway while just being in ground effect!
ArtuRider 1 month ago
And my flight instructor says I need to practice my crosswind landings. Jk, good landings to all :D
sgtkasi 1 month ago
Attempting crosswind landings in cessna's using flaps only makes it more difficult.
Twostones00 1 month ago
With only using the crab technique, I am surprised none of these guys bent anything.
babukitty2 1 month ago
@babukitty2, I was thinking the same thing. Lots of side load in this video. Slips are more fun, anyway.
Baidd11 3 weeks ago
They guy in the 185 did a somewhat decent job, the rest... not that impressive
alejogj2 1 month ago
big big big balls pilots
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those 172 and early models as far as i know has 15 knots x wind limit and this is what happens when you try to land it at well i would say about 16 knots?(wind sock is about half up and kinda gust i reckon)
ok i did similar procedures but cant say its a good touch and go practice going on there.
at the end of the day when you are struggling to control the aircraft while moving the column left right oh pick that wing up pick this wing up ...and where is the time to learn ? and perfect procedure?
shadowfax1903 1 month ago
good to see pilots who really earn their wings
stealhty1 1 month ago
The lanscape looks beatiful. Lucky you to live in a place like that. I cannot complain though.
zimadude99 3 months ago
I was one of the pilots competing. For those who are wondering why we were not flying a cross controlled approach the rules for the landing competitions specifically forbid slipping below 100' AGL. I won't get into a debate about crosswind legality other than to comment that there were a couple of very senior instructors running the show and if they had decided it was too dangerous we would not have flown.
SPQRTempus 3 months ago
@SPQRTempus It is clear that at times the crosswind is out of limits for some aircraft, ZK-MDS for example (Amongst other 152's) had huge amounts of trouble negotiating a crosswind without adopting the "wing down method". The slower you go the less effective the Rudder becomes, so without the "wing down" method to supplement the rudder in those conditions, you will put sideways strain on the gear. (90% of the aircraft land sideways in this vid) Im sorry but this video frustrates me.
AR15RNZAF 2 months ago 2
@SPQRTempus Why in the world would they prohibit slipping below 100 feet in a strong crosswind. That's like prohibiting landing with the gear down in a retractable.
dmspilot 3 days ago
Interesting video for a mere RC pilot to watch :)
I think anyone who dares to fly, let alone do a cross-wind touch and go, with an MDS registration is very brave. My MDS engines make good paper weights ;)
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2:07 sweet, 2:22 super slick, 2:55 sweet, 04:03 hope pilot is disappionted (woose), 4:40 even worse, 5:40 Fail.... I could go on, great vid and flying by the pilots, I could do this! lol ;)
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chiosex 3 months ago
Should also add, that the crosswind is also close to or out of limits for most of them. C150 was 13 knots from memory and 172 only a couple more. Interesting to see the results of any insurance claim. Some did a pretty good job, but most were poor displays of airmanship at best.
oldtimer143 3 months ago
Frustrating video to watch Bruce....! These guys are obviously bound for airlines, as they are all using the "Boeing" landing technique with zero bank into wind and landing flat but crabbed. Works for airliners only because they're built for it and don't want to scrape their engine pods on the ground. However, 152's, 172's and certainly 180's are designed to land STRAIGHT with the into-wind wing down. Also, you need to fix your windsock. It clearly isn't indicating the 15-20 knots that is there.
oldtimer143 3 months ago
One of the planes still has the ZK. That implied country code really wouldnt work in Europe.
Do they still use VH is australia
946HZJ 3 months ago
incompetant fool trying to land!
shockflyyer3d 3 months ago
Nice videoing ,
MrFlench 3 months ago
@drummerkid69 G'day... Well, as I recall it, there be 2 schools of Crosswinded Theology. One is to Approach with the Fuselage tracking the Runway-Heading, Into-Wind Wing-Low, and Roll Out of the Sideslip ; before the Wing digs in. T'other Church (here) Tracks Into-Wind, Wings- Level, Skewing the U/C's Axis ; until Kicking it Straight, at the Touchdown. I saw a Weight-Shift Trike try the latter, once. It's Pedals only work NOSE-WHEEL, & it Cartwheeled for him !
WarblesOnALot 3 months ago
Nice Vid Murray
Just noticed that your planes only three letters in their registrations, looks weird
946HZJ 3 months ago
@946HZJ The ZK prefix is implied
xjet 3 months ago
nice vids, excpt wow these guys really need to learn how to not put so much side load on the mains when touching down. More ailerons and less rudder when flairing jesus
drummerkid69 3 months ago
Amazing!
hakank1 3 months ago
Bet he has skid marks lol
TMHmodels 3 months ago
Had to give that one a like. Is the idea to correct the yaw just before touchdown or fight it all the way down?
Supercub1974 3 months ago
@Supercub1974 your meant to keep nose into wind till your close to the ground. then when you are close you use rudder to line up to plane straight and use ailerons to keep plane from drifting of the runway from the wind. so u land leaning over into the wind on one wheel first then bring other main wheel down. most of those guys weren't doing it properly and landing a bit sideways. nothing wrong with that the planes can handle it but u wear out the tires really fast that way.
patchrules2000 3 months ago
Nice Video!
Giovanniram22 3 months ago
@Giovanniram22 Don't forget to tell your friends ;-)
xjet 3 months ago
would make me nervous as hell trying that. great video.
Boot2yourHead 3 months ago
Great video, nice that you showed us this. Thanks a lot!
Tomdomification 3 months ago
Omg. half of those guys must be suicidal to do that. don't they teach you how to do touch and goes properly in NZ ? you always retract flaps before applying power if you have touched down. half those guys didn't and were just asking to stall a wing on rotation. if i did what they were doing in a flight test here in Australia it would be an instant fail ! that's how bad it is. but other than that great video and cant wait to see more :) .
patchrules2000 3 months ago
@patchrules2000 Hiya, we are taught to retract to 10 deg from fully extended and only retract fully once airborne in an established climb above 400ft. thats in a 152 or a robin that is.
warp65 3 months ago
I was hoping to see some of the aircraft equipped with Crosswind Landing Gear (sure would have made it easier). Great video.
learning41230 3 months ago
Would be nice to get some fpv in one of those! Lol!
eryn4586 3 months ago
A few multi coloured underpants there, Just as well you don't have smell a vision Bruce
1stMrSceptical 3 months ago
That was some hairy flying,,,definately had the "Pucker Factor"
RemodNC 3 months ago
All of Those Planes Looked So Real! (LoL)!
Thanks!
poppopscarvinshop 3 months ago
@poppopscarvinshop they r real mate.
AfghanKnight007 3 months ago
Cool Video as per normal Xjet Bruce. I notice they were all crabbing in, and kicking 'em straight rather than cross control side slipping. I learnt to to fly at Hoxton Park NSW which meant cross winds almost every day due to the tree line on the eastern side of runway 34/16 until the aerodrome was closed down due to damned housing development :(
Our flying club used to have fly-ins from Hox to Moruya for Nav exercises, spot landings and BBQ then a fly home up the coast. -B!LL!
Fugitive0Z 3 months ago
@Fugitive0Z its a shame hoxton park is gone. got big warehouses and parking lots there now. im at bankstown airport myself. i miss hoxton park it was so much quieter than bankstown and so close too.
patchrules2000 3 months ago
Awesome vid! These guys have some real skill.One of the hardest things to do is a cross wind landing and it's even harder in a high wing aircraft since they tend to tip over a lot easier when they are on the ground.Practicing cross wind landings was the only time I have ever started to sweat when the temp outside was 10 degrees F...lol
da959 3 months ago
Great Video.
SMDtehee 3 months ago