Converts are given to read a revised Koran book(NOT the real Koran) that deletes all the negativity of inhumaness but adds much words of love and normality but spiced with some hatred against infidels.Wait until you convert! Then, converts are GIVEN the real Koran that is the inhumaness and shock of cruelty that calls for killings and maiming of humans and infidels.Pls. be very careful.Stay away from Islam.It is fake.Koran is true manual for terrorism.Wake up, converts.Do NOT be tricked:)
islam is nothing but lies covered in suspicion, bigotry, murder one has to look no farther than islamic states to know these simple facts. How anyone person can defend it and still consider themselves a moral and upright person just shows how twisted this ideology can make a person....It should be wiped off the face of the Earth here in America there are several movements to get it classified not as a religion but as a form of government in hopes to get it banned.
@Kiddeth Haha great deduction *sarcasm. People comparing Islam with the so-called 'Islamic states'. There is no true Islamic nation in the world currently.
You couldn't prove anything with any prove the prophet was never a rapist and you have absolutely no prove to prove it. It's hard to believe you actually read! By far your the only one liying.
i point out the teachings in your own koran and hadith, from your own child rapist prophet, and all you can do is lie like the muslim piece of trash that you are
All the people below are completely deluded. They have no idea what Islam is. Its not a political ideology of any sort. It is a religion of peace, compassion, justice and truth. I've read the Holy Qur'an and I know what Islam teaches. So stop the hate and bigotry you ignorant fools.
islam is not a european religion. islam is a political ideology built on 7th century arab culture. it has no place in modern civil society.
there are muslims in europe. they can believe whatever they want, but if they want to enforce the backwards laws of the koran and hadith, they cannot live here.
@iSeekThe1Truth BS. that's why canada shut down sharia courts in 2005.
don't cry about interpretation, liar. islamic law is incompatible with western law. men aren't allowed to beat their wives (go read 4:34 of your koran). 9 year old girls cannot get married to old men (your prophet raped his 9 year old wife when he was 54). polygamy is illegal.
islamic countries fail because of islam. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE IN CANADA. move to yemen if you love it so much.
@karlsmith00 Everything you said was a lie. Your probably missing culture and religion and I probably heard this from somewhere and thought it was true. Why don't you actually read and search what your talking about! Of course men's aren't allowed to beat their wives who said they were? Why can't 9 year olds get married to older men if they want too? go read history before blabbering about what you don't know. The prophet did no such thing, it's obvious you know nothing about prophet Mohammed.
@karlsmith00 Yemen does'nt follow Islamic laws many countries don't follow what Islam teaches them. Many arab country's do the exact opposite of what Islam teaches and call themselves Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Dubai, Emirates, Egypt, and many more. Go read what the Islamic rules are for governing a country and that these country's that call themselves a "Islamic Country'" actually do! If a country were to follow the Islamic laws it would be more successful than Canada!
@iSeekThe1Truth look at this stupid, brainwashed, deluded muslim lying through his teeth.
you're a fucking moron. plenty of countries follow islamic law. I KNOW WHAT ISLAMIC LAW IS. under islamic law, MEN CAN BEAT THEIR WIVES. under islamic law, 9 YEAR OLD GIRLS CAN GET MARRIED. go google the name nujood ali.
yemen, the UAE, saudis follow the laws just fine. THAT'S WHY THOSE COUNTRIES ARE TERRIBLE PLACES TO LIVE. democracy is better, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE IN CANADA. i'm so sick of you idiots
@iSeekThe1Truth and btw, go read the yemeni constitution. it explicity states that it follows islamic law, sharia.
muslims are so fucking dumb. you all live in dream worlds and you actually think people believe you. you don't belong in canada. get the fuck out right now. GO FOLLOW YOUR WHORE PROPHET IN AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY BECAUSE YOU AREN'T WANTED HERE.
@karlsmith00 Why don't you go read what Islamic law is from the shia fewpoint.Their's no point in arguing with you even if the person's right you won't accept it. Arrogant. Yemen, Saudis don't follow the laws just fine, they do the exact opposite that's why they are terrible places to live in, your the one who's brainwashed and the prophet is'nt a whore he' the kindest and greatest man to walk on this earth. I hope you use your intellect, if you could.
yeah, right. iran is a shiite nation, it follows it just fine. that's why women are stoned to death for adultery there, that's islamic law.
your prophet was a child raping whore. he's a fucking idiot, and muslims like you who follow him are morons. you just prove my point because you're a brainwashed idiot who can't deal with reality.
But when a British kindergarten english teacher in Sudan calls a class dummy 'Muhammad' to inspire the kids makes moslems all over the world demand her head on a platter! then damn well Europens and Christinas they have the right to have fears against moslems and reject Islam. I dont blame them.
And yes Europeans have all the legitimate reasons to have fears against a religion and a group of pple who see them as non believers who deserve to die. If a Sunni bombs Shiites in Iraq or Christians somewhere in the world; the muslim community remains compliant as the action is secretly taken as heroic; no condemnation.
Economic fears my ass.. 16,000 African moslems convert to Christianity yearly. if Moslems were an economic solution to any EU country they'd 've developed their countries; or neighbouring islamic countries.. in fact when they run from their islamic dictatorships they dont even remember that there are Islamic countries next door; all the way to Christian Europe.
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he says"i"m a muslim came to europe and behave like an arrogant asshole hoping to missuse the tolerance.and so proud of it with my steady smiling.In fact i"ve left my muslim country to escape poverty made by my religion.hahaha.And now i"ll bring my religion to the europe to downgrade this continent.this europeans are so stupid.if they would behave in a muslim country like i do here they would be killed,No I"m gonna marry a six year old like my prophet moe and become even more shameless"
Muslims refuse to integrate - therefore they are not Europeans. They may get a passport for economic reasons but they don't think or act like Europeans. The penalty is death if you leave islam. This is un european. If Europe needs people it can bring back South Africans or can bring in South americans who are culturally assimilated.
@drydust999 in that case that's the smaller proportion of the Muslim comunity, most Muslims have adapted to European laws and valeus and don't care about spreading the Jihad
@Tinopa2 Unfortunately, it's the potion you see everyday in the news and against which the majority doesn't protest. It's always shocking to see them shouting and holding insulting signs at soldiers who come back from Afghanistan and their families, and no one in their community seems to think they're wrong.
@drydust999 the muslim community looks down on the muslims who'd do that, thing just is they don't care, I agree that at that point the higher ups in those cummunitys should try doing something about that bunch of morons, but unfortunatly most of them don't, that's why I think Tariq Ramadan is doing a great job 'cause he is trying to change that, in the first place by acting like that himself
@Tinopa2 I think you're wrong there, TR is part of the muslim brotherhood (his grandfather founded it) so if he's doing anything it's certainly not to have islam adapt to western values, but rather make western institutions comply with islam.
He also has a strong tendency to use double speech (particularly in French, his mother tongue) to delude people.
You really shouldn't look at this guy and think he's gonna help. He's in fact making things worse, by encouraging muslims to follow their ways
@drydust999 if I got it right he wants them to follow their ways, while respecting the ways of others,
true there are things where muslims shouldn't follow their ways, in for an example morroco they start to get away from those wrong rules, purelly because no one care for it, while in europa it's still smally presented, because it's A) still an issue & B) for lots of them it's all they have from home,
he won't beable to fix B, but with his vision cause A will be over once it's about 2020
@drydust999 TBH I think we already are getting to the point of trouble, a lot of people already have this "we vs Muslims," attitude and that hits back the same way with the Muslims, but yeah, I'm an atheist with a father who has lots of Muslim friends, so if the 3d world war is to break out I can easilly pick the winning side, though I hope I won't turn out to be that kind of coward
And instead of deceiving us Europeans you just need to say what you think and always tell when you speak to your fellow Muslims: Defending the stoning of woman, hijab for woman, chopping off hand of thieves and all the rest of the barbaric sharia bullshit.
@GeertToole Islam an Arab religion? How ridiculous! Islam is a global religion and Arabs only consist of 13% of all Muslims. I am black and Muslim, learn your facts.
@GeertToole What the hell is an arabocentric religion? islam does not and has never belonged to the Arabs. You speak of Arab mistreatment of blacks during their relative minor slave trade, when in fact is were the Christian white colonists that have for centuries colonised and mistreated our people. It were the Christian colonists that shipped us across borders like live stock. It were the Christian colonists that have ravaged our people with mass rapes and diseases. Don't fool yourself.
The Colonialism of white european had no religios reasons, the arab imperialism and the islamic colonialism had religious reasons becaus slavery is a legal institution in islamic world.
Do you know that arabs in Sudan do massrape and mass murdering against africans.
@GeertToole I don't know where to begin, your ignorance is profound. Slavery a "legal institution" in Islam? What the hell does that even mean?! The only concept of slavery in Islam are prisoners of war, and details of how to treat them with dignity and open a pathway for their freedom. Slaves could be Arabs, Persians, Africans, has absolutely no racial basis. Islam talks about this because it was what the people were facing during those times, it just teaches them how to deal with it.
Islam is totalitarian system thats the true there is no ignorance. And what is better in slavery without racial base? Slavery is slavery its very barbarian.
@GeertToole Slavery is very barbaric. Tell that to majority of the white Christian nations that have amassed their fortunes that they have today from those hundreds of years of profiting from slave colonies.
@blackstars56 Slavery still exists in the muslim world, the Royal Navy spent years trying to eradicate it from Africa's east coast. I am sure you are familiar with the term "raisin head". Also the freedom Mohamed gave to his slave was to get one of his first converts. Also his slave had no where to go once freed and so stayed on as a muslim.
@GeertToole First of all they are all Africans, the North Africans just have Arab influence, language etc. I still don't see your point? Civil wars occur all over Africa. If you bother to learn about the Darfur conflict you would know this conflict is a conflict for land, independence and for oil reserves. There are millions of South Sudanese that live in the North. I don't see your point, this conflict has nothing to do with slavery or race.
No the arabs in the north wanted to stabilized their rule, the africans were frightend from the slavery. many arab soldiers enslaved africans to earn more money.
Muslims are more trouble than their worth,they consume more than they produce(Draining the Welfare System),therefore they are no use to our society & they have failed to justify their existence...our leaders must put an end to Muslim immigration NOW if a Muslim holocaust is to be avoided...
@guidance2truth A Muslim is someone who submits to Allah alone and follows the teachings of His divine message which is the qur'an, and the example of His chosen messenger, which is the sunnah.
'Moderate', 'liberal', 'fundamentalist', 'radical' and 'extremist' are labels given to Muslims by the West for political reasons.
@guidance2truth Muhammad (pbuh) said, "my religion is a moderate religion.." so that's exactly what it means. The people of the book are reminded in the Quran, "Do not go to extremes in your religion". Unfortunately, some of the muslims themselves have gone to extremes. How about "Invite all to the way of ur Lord, with WISDOM and beautiful preaching, and debate with them in ways that are best". But now we'v become a bunch of dumb n arrogant misguided ppl calling ourselves muslims, SHAME ON US!
If the so-called prophet of Allah were alive today in any European country he would be in jail for his murderous violence, for his Jew-hatred, for his acts of theft, for his bigamy and for his pedophilia (Aisha, his child bride. was 6 years old).
Islam is a global religion. It is a religion for the whole of mankind and muhammed pbuh came with a message of tawheed LA ILAHA ILALLAH for the whole of mankind. Islam will overpower,overcome and dominate all other religions.
Why you do not want to learn about Islam, then talk about it ,believe me you lost so much , for your selves please give your selves a little time and read about a 1.8 billion people religion
Muhammed n'avait rien d'un homme de Dieu.Quand on lit le coran et surtout les hadiths, on voit que Muhammed était un vrai brigand. Il tuait, il pillait, il distribuait le butin des gens qu'il attaquait. Il avait des nombreuses femmes, des captives, des esclaves pour sexe acquises en butin. Il a pénétré Aïcha à l'âge de 9 ans. Lisez les hadiths. Le coran est plein d'appels à la violence, à la haine: 4:95, 5:51, 2:191, 2:216, 8:12, 9:5, 9:29, 9:39, 9:123. Bouddha, Jésus étaient des hommes de paix
This guy is a such an HYPOCRITE! he is simply the REPRESENTATION OF DOUBLE LANGUAGE. The way he talks in French TV and the way he talk here are soooooooo opposite!!!! there is simply NOTHING IN COMMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I heard in French TV and all he does is BARKING against French culture and european culture. This guy doesn't want to share, but to impose his view! the difference is the way he does it. fighting racism is about listening to each other, not listening to this dick head!
@cmwen : Yes, he is a hypocrite and its most showing when he is debating with opponents - his arrogance shines through every fiber of his personality.
yes, there are Europeans who are muslims, but they must obey the laws of the lands they live in. They should not immigrate to another nation unless they already agree with it's laws. why would you move to a country who's laws you disagree with? and if you were born in a country you don't agree with, then you should try your best to move somewhere else that you agree with more. Don't impose your religious beliefs on the majority.
"We must exploit the so-called democracy and freedom of speech here in the West to reach our goals. Our Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and the Koran teach us that we must use every conceivable means and opportunity to defeat the enemies of Allah. Tell the infidels in public, we respect your laws and your constitutions, which we Muslims believe that these are as worthless as the paper they are written on. The only law we must respect and apply is the Shari’a." - Tariq Ramadan
He is right. European legacy is not built upon just greek, roman or judeochristian legacy it is also built upon struggle against Islam, be it reconquista in SW Europe or centuries long effort to repel Turks from SE Europe and Balkans. Sorry Mr. Ramadan, Islam is NOT a European religion, it will never be and it was always perceived as an alien element.
L'islam n'est pas une religion européenne ! Et bien sûr que oui, l'islam vient de l'immigration ! C'est évident, il y a encore 50 ans, il n'y avait presque pas un seul musulman en Europe occidentale ! Et ça tu le sais très bien Tariq !
complètement faux et vous le savez très bien il y a plus de 50 ans l'armée française elle-même comportait des musulmans ...et puis l'islam est présent en europe depuis le début du moyen age en Espagne notamment et en europe orientale
Islam is coming to takeover atheist nations! God's punishment is upon us!
ONLY A CATHOLIC STATE WILL RESIST GOVERNMENT PLANS FOR YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC WIPEOUT AND ISLAMISATION BY IDIOT SECULAR GOVERNANCE!! Prepare for a Catholic State - or prepare for your burka!
@amaqula Even though my views are completely antithetical to Islam in all its forms. This amaqula is a total fruit cake. He would replace one fascist religious ideology with another. Different packaging, same result. Why don't you shove your medievalist ,superstious magic up your crabby little arse. What do Protestants call the Catholic Church? The Whore of Babylon. I might add their also the biggest organised paedophile gang on the planet.
Listen to the pagan - lambasting Christianity while feeding off its achievements and success. There is a word for you - and since you were so disgusting to me I will call you it - it's Parasite. That's atheists for you.
CATHOLIC STATE - mother of the West - FOREVER!!!!!!!!
Ramadan is the charismatic front face of muslim brotherhood forbidden in egypt, with the agenda to undermine democratic institutions and introducing sharia. He supported Hamas, which is the regional arm of Iran. Shalom.
Ramadan is the charismatic front face of muslim brotherhood forbidden in egypt and with the agenda to undermine democratic institutions and introducing sharia.
Islam is not a religion. Islam is a death cult. It is a totalitarian political ideology. It Islam deserves to be outlawed. It is against all our values of freedom and human rights.
Islam is a European Religion because there are many Muslims who live in Europe. That's fine. BUT, Muslims have to accept & respect the laws of the land they live in. The Muslim community is asking for (democracy based) tolerance in order to import 'anti-democratic', 'anti-tolerance' practices which undermine the very basis of the society they want to join. And all this "20 mill. workers" talk is pure nonsense and a facade. A moratorium on stoning (which you proposed) is not enough, Tariq!
@piwinter Muslims (just like communists) are full of democracy and freedom of expression and the most vocal preachers of human righs only until the very moment they gain upper hand
@LKHK76 I don't thing Islam claims democracy and freedom as their main goals, or human rights for that matter (unlike Communist who were fighting for freedom from the ruling class, freedom from economic oppression etc.). These two are not related, quite the opposite. If you want to be very cynical about it, you would compare radical Muslims with Fascism: to use democracy's own weakness in order to destroy it, to use 'freedom of speech' to preach against 'freedom of speech' etc.
@piwinter "unlike Communist who were fighting for freedom from the ruling class, freedom from economic oppression etc." Please don't tell me you seriously believe what you wrote.
@LKHK76 It's not what I believe that matters. I'm saying you are making a wrong comparison. Islam is a religion, not 'just' a political movement. What do you want? A simplistic, reductionist "they are all bad!"? That doesn't explain anything. And I surely don't need a lecture about Communism. My grandfather was killed during the Stalin purges of 1936/1937 in Ukraine. My other grandfather was shot in 1945 in Czechoslovakia, my father survived the bombing of Dresden, I was born in Siberia, OK?
Islam is neither european, nor a religion, but organized crime. It has much more in common with Ku Klux Klan, Mara Salvatrucha, and German Nazi ideology than a religion.
Well, that explains everything...Ooh, you forgot Stalin and Pol Pot. So, 4 million Muslim Turks in Germany (there since the 1960's) are all criminals? I guess just like all those criminal Mexicans in the U.S.? C'mon man, read a history book or two! I'm not going to defend Wahhabism Islam here but historically the 'West' has intruded into the Muslim world more often than the other away around, and with a much bigger 'death toll'.
if a bunch of Europeans, like French, go to Morroco and Algeria (which they did and had to leave after a bloody war), does that make those countries the natural home for them? Obviously the Algerians didn't seem to think so. So why now is Tariq Ramadan bullshiting people. I know that's his job, but it doesn't mean we have to buy it.
@Stferdinanddhalifax If the Moroccans invite a bunch of Europeans over because they need workers to grow and thrive, and grant then citizenship, then yes, they become Moroccans. How you can compare colonialism to immigration is beyond me, and suggests you need a good history and politics lesson.
@MrStartingGun You, like you're sociologist-priest hero Ramandan are splitting hairs.
Colonialism and immigration are not separate issues, they are two sides of the same coin in this case, since the dominant ideology of those pushing for more immigration is inherently anti-colonialist. European history = bad. African history = victims. It is with this logic we can get the political correctness that allows what would absolutely be disallowed if the shoe was on the other foot.
Colonialism, in part, led to our current world. It is difficult, for someone who is used to the standards of life of a major Western country, not to recognize the process by which we got there, even the less savoury aspects. That said I wouldn't wish the History of the world not unfolding the way it did, even if it includes such horrible things. Colonialism is also really useful for communitarians in their quest to guilt people to death.
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the jizya (poor-due), then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. - Quran, 9:5
Disclaimer: The above verse is presented completely out of context. Hence the difficulty to ackknowledge its hidden message of peace. In my word "RIP infidel".
France is too good to it Muslims and let me tell you there have shown no signs of integration! Perhaps some people feel the host countries need to understand them I would argue it's time they understood the country they live in, they are citizens of and claim benefits from! It's time to give West Europe something back in return for all the goodwill! East Europe does have citizenship rights for any immigrants so I specifically say west Europe. We give them full rights so no excuses please!
@Avanti27 "East Europe does have citizenship rights for any immigrants" well that's painting the picture witha very broad brush and citizenship laws are very country-specific. If anything parts of Central and whole Eastern Europe still have the luxury of having a chance not to repeat the mistakes of Western Europe when it comes to muslim immigration and avoid creation of disloyal, towards the host culture hostile parallel societies and 5th colums of muslim terrorism
he is a good actor, but everybody knows that religion is good for regulation of society and birth control. look at the gaza strip, where there is unlimited number of birth and islam extremism is stronger now. also at judeism.
power of a king is in the number of his population.
Look at his eyes light when he says 20million and most of them will be Muslims. This man will never help Europe, He will only help create an Islamic state in Europe in the future say 50 years from now...
In your view what is an Islamic state? And where did you get the info that formed your model of an Islamic state? I'm asking because I know that finding a comprehensive model on Shariah law in western countries and language is extremely difficult. A good vid on utube (though long) if you would like to get a comprehensive model of an Islamic state is 'Islamic Law: Barbaric or Misunderstood? by Hamza Andreas Tzortis.
@a2zproductionz I am not scared! I fear that muslims will force West Europe into extremism! and we all know the history of Europe when it is pushed to extreme limits
A European is a person who knows the evil of totalitarian ideologies like fascism and communism, and, nowadays, the vicious threat of islam. Islam has got nothing to do with Europe, despite what this dangerous lunatic liar says, because Europe represents exactly what islam rejects: tolerance and compromise.
an excellent point drydust999....the only thing is that this Ramadan is not a lunatic..the lunatics are our politicians who allow millions of individuals who hate the West, who hate Europe, who actually one could say --hate white people (and I do not differentiate people based on color but the attitudes of Muslims --are hitting in the face) to come here...Ramadan is simply an enemy ..
@escfromsam All those marking you negative are just not European! Tariq Ramadan is a poser with a swiss passport. Having a European passport does not make you European!
what does make a person european? because i recall your so called western science which says that Homo Sapiens were originally from Africa. then they moved to asia and europe etc.
no tariq ramadan grow up in swiss and goes to european schools and he is a professor in european university and he is european because he is swiss citizen , sarkozy is french even if his parents was not french and bonaparte is french even if he came from italy!
the fact that he grew up in Switzerland does not make him a European.
Even if his parents were born there it would not necessarily make him a European.
Passport does not mean a thing nowadays. Absolutely nothing. I can be a professor at Japanese or Chinese university, get their passport somehow maybe, but will I EVER become a Chinese or Japanese? NOT A CHANCE!
you talk about european culture, may be he have european culture or may be not, but he is a european citizen and have the same rights and obligations like any other european citizen, and for me he has an european culture because he is banned in saudi arabia and in egypt and many other arab country beacause he don't share the same principles and ideas with arab govs (he was also banned in usa!) but never in europe! his first language is french! so i can beleive he is an europeaneuropean
you can believe what you want. Jamaicans speak English as their first language, but it does not make them Europeans. European means White. Please don't confuse ideas. The fact that he is influenced by White culture does not make him European. I might be influenced by Tibetan and Chinese culture, but it does not turn me into a Tibetan, right?
white culture!? culture is about principles not about colors! Mr Tariq is born on european country and he have the same rights and obligations as the other swiss citizens so he is a european citizen! what you say can't change this fact!
There is nothing European about this poser! He wants Family Sharia, he wants separate swimming pools for girls, he is taking Europe to be an Islamic haven! he never strongly condemns hate speech of Imams, He never strongly condemns stoning as a punishment and the swiss Muslims don't give a toss about him so he brainwashes the French Muslims who are more radical!
Christianity is a religion of Europe and the World.
Buddhism is a religion of Europe and the World.
Judaism is a religion of Europe and the World.
Of course it is. We have to respect all religions, we have to respect all those who are atheists, we have to find peace in each other and work from there and good things will happen. Tariq is a great speaker for Islam or Europeans and Americans, he helps us understand that Islam is positive as well.
doesn't inner struggle plant the seeds for inner peace? that sounds like jihad to me. in fact, many muslims believe that Buddha was also one of the many divine prophets of God because his original message is so pure and congenial to the original teachings of muhammad, jesus, and moses. I should emphasize ORIGINAL as in UNADULTERATED and by men who followed them...
islam, the psychotic cult of death and deceipt, isn't European. Fuck, it doesn't even belong in the universe, let along Europe. moslems are non human shit-sacs. PIG shit-sacs.
Read Quran. u will find out about Islam. Peace! Islam is submission to the will of the one God! Peace be upon those who follow the right path, the path of the one God.
All I needed to know about 'islam', the psychotic cult of death for the mentally insane', I learned on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. Then other lovely events like 7/7, Madrid, islam slaughtering all those innocent school children in Chechnya, the moslem cunt at Fort Hood, and now this fucking non human moslem sack of pig shit trying to blow of the Detroit plane. allah, the god of pigs, needs to die.
Reply to view587: you have a dogmatic, simplistic way of thinking, fed by an advance innate hate of the other! Relax! The guy has a lot of good points, we should wake up, man!
I hardly think you Europeans can talk about expelling the Muslims when you'll highly promote the right to abortions? Who's going to expel them? You and who else? U aborted and finished off your own people. Islam will not conquier Europe with an army, mererly vote it in!
France should and must tremble because Allah is coming to Paris. All MUslims are going to have cheese as long as you leave the Swedish women alone because I want them for myself. BE scared very scared, we are ready to eat you
Like I said: we Muslims are ready to eat people and drink their blood, we will have no mercy on children or women and we gonna cut down trees and dry your rivers and burn your houses. I am taking all the Swedish ladies for me and am not going to share with my brothers. Don't call me because I will be busy fucking most of them.
So basically he saying - "You lost Europe to islam , we are becoming the majority , so get over it ! ".
Ask yourself - when islam will dominate Europe , for how long Christianity or Judaism will be allowed ? Before you answer this question look at Saudi Arabia or Iran .
Muslims - please don't bother to reply on this , i had enough of your - "Jewish fuck" , i am Russian .
In general i agree with you , every violence should be dealt with more violence . However France for example has already passed point of no return . Today in France between 10-20 % are muslims . In about 20-30 years from now they will be the majority(if their birthrate remains) . France is nuclear armed state . Do you really want to nuke Eiffel Tower ?
Well i don't think it's up to French to decide ... France is a democracy , so the majority can elect it's own government .
Muslims use our own democracy against us .If some imaam preaching violence ,he can do it because of freedom of speech . But if someone expose it (Geert Wilders), it considered to be a hate speech .
So i don't think expelling them is option , at least while islam is a legit religion . Only solution is ban on islam .
STFU European Lappen.
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Converts are given to read a revised Koran book(NOT the real Koran) that deletes all the negativity of inhumaness but adds much words of love and normality but spiced with some hatred against infidels.Wait until you convert! Then, converts are GIVEN the real Koran that is the inhumaness and shock of cruelty that calls for killings and maiming of humans and infidels.Pls. be very careful.Stay away from Islam.It is fake.Koran is true manual for terrorism.Wake up, converts.Do NOT be tricked:)
makpuki99 6 months ago
islam is nothing but lies covered in suspicion, bigotry, murder one has to look no farther than islamic states to know these simple facts. How anyone person can defend it and still consider themselves a moral and upright person just shows how twisted this ideology can make a person....It should be wiped off the face of the Earth here in America there are several movements to get it classified not as a religion but as a form of government in hopes to get it banned.
Kiddeth 7 months ago
@Kiddeth Haha great deduction *sarcasm. People comparing Islam with the so-called 'Islamic states'. There is no true Islamic nation in the world currently.
bobbyjans 6 months ago
You couldn't prove anything with any prove the prophet was never a rapist and you have absolutely no prove to prove it. It's hard to believe you actually read! By far your the only one liying.
iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
You don't belong in reality because you can't stand it.
iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
@iSeekThe1Truth sure reality.
i point out the teachings in your own koran and hadith, from your own child rapist prophet, and all you can do is lie like the muslim piece of trash that you are
YOU DON'T BELONG IN CANADA. GET THE FUCK OUT.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
islam is a devil religion
TheAntilam 8 months ago
@TheAntilam Were's your prove? Terrorism is considered very bad sin in the religion? Were's your facts , if their are any?
iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
Islam is the truth.
All the people below are completely deluded. They have no idea what Islam is. Its not a political ideology of any sort. It is a religion of peace, compassion, justice and truth. I've read the Holy Qur'an and I know what Islam teaches. So stop the hate and bigotry you ignorant fools.
truebeliever786 8 months ago
islam is not a european religion. islam is a political ideology built on 7th century arab culture. it has no place in modern civil society.
there are muslims in europe. they can believe whatever they want, but if they want to enforce the backwards laws of the koran and hadith, they cannot live here.
karlsmith00 9 months ago
@karlsmith00 Totally wrong Islam is for everywhere, anytime, any place for anybody, you have the wrong interperatation of the real religion.
iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
@iSeekThe1Truth BS. that's why canada shut down sharia courts in 2005.
don't cry about interpretation, liar. islamic law is incompatible with western law. men aren't allowed to beat their wives (go read 4:34 of your koran). 9 year old girls cannot get married to old men (your prophet raped his 9 year old wife when he was 54). polygamy is illegal.
islamic countries fail because of islam. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE IN CANADA. move to yemen if you love it so much.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@karlsmith00 Everything you said was a lie. Your probably missing culture and religion and I probably heard this from somewhere and thought it was true. Why don't you actually read and search what your talking about! Of course men's aren't allowed to beat their wives who said they were? Why can't 9 year olds get married to older men if they want too? go read history before blabbering about what you don't know. The prophet did no such thing, it's obvious you know nothing about prophet Mohammed.
iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
@karlsmith00 Yemen does'nt follow Islamic laws many countries don't follow what Islam teaches them. Many arab country's do the exact opposite of what Islam teaches and call themselves Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Dubai, Emirates, Egypt, and many more. Go read what the Islamic rules are for governing a country and that these country's that call themselves a "Islamic Country'" actually do! If a country were to follow the Islamic laws it would be more successful than Canada!
iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
@iSeekThe1Truth look at this stupid, brainwashed, deluded muslim lying through his teeth.
you're a fucking moron. plenty of countries follow islamic law. I KNOW WHAT ISLAMIC LAW IS. under islamic law, MEN CAN BEAT THEIR WIVES. under islamic law, 9 YEAR OLD GIRLS CAN GET MARRIED. go google the name nujood ali.
yemen, the UAE, saudis follow the laws just fine. THAT'S WHY THOSE COUNTRIES ARE TERRIBLE PLACES TO LIVE. democracy is better, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE IN CANADA. i'm so sick of you idiots
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@iSeekThe1Truth and btw, go read the yemeni constitution. it explicity states that it follows islamic law, sharia.
muslims are so fucking dumb. you all live in dream worlds and you actually think people believe you. you don't belong in canada. get the fuck out right now. GO FOLLOW YOUR WHORE PROPHET IN AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY BECAUSE YOU AREN'T WANTED HERE.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@karlsmith00 Why don't you go read what Islamic law is from the shia fewpoint.Their's no point in arguing with you even if the person's right you won't accept it. Arrogant. Yemen, Saudis don't follow the laws just fine, they do the exact opposite that's why they are terrible places to live in, your the one who's brainwashed and the prophet is'nt a whore he' the kindest and greatest man to walk on this earth. I hope you use your intellect, if you could.
iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
@iSeekThe1Truth ahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
yeah, right. iran is a shiite nation, it follows it just fine. that's why women are stoned to death for adultery there, that's islamic law.
your prophet was a child raping whore. he's a fucking idiot, and muslims like you who follow him are morons. you just prove my point because you're a brainwashed idiot who can't deal with reality.
you don't belong in canada. get the fuck out.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
But when a British kindergarten english teacher in Sudan calls a class dummy 'Muhammad' to inspire the kids makes moslems all over the world demand her head on a platter! then damn well Europens and Christinas they have the right to have fears against moslems and reject Islam. I dont blame them.
intrepeco 9 months ago
And yes Europeans have all the legitimate reasons to have fears against a religion and a group of pple who see them as non believers who deserve to die. If a Sunni bombs Shiites in Iraq or Christians somewhere in the world; the muslim community remains compliant as the action is secretly taken as heroic; no condemnation.
intrepeco 9 months ago
Economic fears my ass.. 16,000 African moslems convert to Christianity yearly. if Moslems were an economic solution to any EU country they'd 've developed their countries; or neighbouring islamic countries.. in fact when they run from their islamic dictatorships they dont even remember that there are Islamic countries next door; all the way to Christian Europe.
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tigersforchrist 10 months ago
he says"i"m a muslim came to europe and behave like an arrogant asshole hoping to missuse the tolerance.and so proud of it with my steady smiling.In fact i"ve left my muslim country to escape poverty made by my religion.hahaha.And now i"ll bring my religion to the europe to downgrade this continent.this europeans are so stupid.if they would behave in a muslim country like i do here they would be killed,No I"m gonna marry a six year old like my prophet moe and become even more shameless"
yoogoh 11 months ago
Islam is not a religion, it is a political doctrine. We don't want that in Europe. We had enough with nazisme, we do not want islamo-fascism.
Go back to camel country.
OSS732 11 months ago
The argument that Tariq Ramadan = his Grandad is ridiculous. How many people believe exactly what their Grandparents believe?!? I
halimaali 11 months ago 2
Muslims refuse to integrate - therefore they are not Europeans. They may get a passport for economic reasons but they don't think or act like Europeans. The penalty is death if you leave islam. This is un european. If Europe needs people it can bring back South Africans or can bring in South americans who are culturally assimilated.
Celtic450 11 months ago
Don't believe Oxford professors, they only talk bullshit
PS.: I studied there LOL
jradetzky 11 months ago
this man is a genius...
camel595 1 year ago
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islam is a piece of shit
TheHinduzionist 1 year ago
lmao white boys getting angry
AdemaLevel 1 year ago
ISLAM IS FOR ALL OF MANKIND ITS DONT REALLY MATTER WHO U R OR WHERE U COME FROM!!
sabrinaazzi2 1 year ago
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davidee190 1 year ago 2
Islam is barbaric. Europe is not. Islam is not and will never be part of Europe.
drydust999 1 year ago
@drydust999 it has been here for 60 years, it already is a part of Europa
Tinopa2 1 year ago
@Tinopa2 On the political side, it's like a cancer. It should reform and adapt or be removed.
drydust999 1 year ago
@drydust999 it did, only a small proportion of the people following it is causing trouble
Tinopa2 1 year ago
@Tinopa2 Some say the reform you're referring to is violent jihad...
drydust999 1 year ago
@drydust999 in that case that's the smaller proportion of the Muslim comunity, most Muslims have adapted to European laws and valeus and don't care about spreading the Jihad
Tinopa2 1 year ago
@Tinopa2 Unfortunately, it's the potion you see everyday in the news and against which the majority doesn't protest. It's always shocking to see them shouting and holding insulting signs at soldiers who come back from Afghanistan and their families, and no one in their community seems to think they're wrong.
drydust999 1 year ago
@drydust999 the muslim community looks down on the muslims who'd do that, thing just is they don't care, I agree that at that point the higher ups in those cummunitys should try doing something about that bunch of morons, but unfortunatly most of them don't, that's why I think Tariq Ramadan is doing a great job 'cause he is trying to change that, in the first place by acting like that himself
Tinopa2 1 year ago
@Tinopa2 I think you're wrong there, TR is part of the muslim brotherhood (his grandfather founded it) so if he's doing anything it's certainly not to have islam adapt to western values, but rather make western institutions comply with islam.
He also has a strong tendency to use double speech (particularly in French, his mother tongue) to delude people.
You really shouldn't look at this guy and think he's gonna help. He's in fact making things worse, by encouraging muslims to follow their ways
drydust999 1 year ago
@drydust999 if I got it right he wants them to follow their ways, while respecting the ways of others,
true there are things where muslims shouldn't follow their ways, in for an example morroco they start to get away from those wrong rules, purelly because no one care for it, while in europa it's still smally presented, because it's A) still an issue & B) for lots of them it's all they have from home,
he won't beable to fix B, but with his vision cause A will be over once it's about 2020
Tinopa2 1 year ago
@Tinopa2 I hope you're right, because otherwise there's gonna be trouble.
drydust999 1 year ago
@drydust999 TBH I think we already are getting to the point of trouble, a lot of people already have this "we vs Muslims," attitude and that hits back the same way with the Muslims, but yeah, I'm an atheist with a father who has lots of Muslim friends, so if the 3d world war is to break out I can easilly pick the winning side, though I hope I won't turn out to be that kind of coward
Tinopa2 1 year ago
@Tinopa2 Victory is not going to go to the invaders. That's for sure.
drydust999 1 year ago
Obviously this gentleman is everywhere!
Always the same strategy, he wants to be seen as a nice guy, an intellectual, a humanist.
Don't believe him because behind the mask there is the islamization of Europe!
trentspirit1 1 year ago
Islam is NOT a European religion!
We are not monkeys or apes!
And instead of deceiving us Europeans you just need to say what you think and always tell when you speak to your fellow Muslims: Defending the stoning of woman, hijab for woman, chopping off hand of thieves and all the rest of the barbaric sharia bullshit.
malsifood 1 year ago
White Catholic Europe !
Phantom92NR 1 year ago
Islam isnt a eurpean religion islam is a purely arab religon. Islam is a totalitarian System.
GeertToole 1 year ago
@GeertToole Islam an Arab religion? How ridiculous! Islam is a global religion and Arabs only consist of 13% of all Muslims. I am black and Muslim, learn your facts.
blackstars56 1 year ago
@blackstars56
No you didnt understand my sentence i mean Islam is a arabocentric Religion. And the arabs killled many of blacks for slavery.
GeertToole 1 year ago
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blackstars56 1 year ago
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@GeertToole What the hell is an arabocentric religion? islam does not and has never belonged to the Arabs. You speak of Arab mistreatment of blacks during their relative minor slave trade, when in fact is were the Christian white colonists that have for centuries colonised and mistreated our people. It were the Christian colonists that shipped us across borders like live stock. It were the Christian colonists that have ravaged our people with mass rapes and diseases. Don't fool yourself.
blackstars56 1 year ago
@blackstars56
The Colonialism of white european had no religios reasons, the arab imperialism and the islamic colonialism had religious reasons becaus slavery is a legal institution in islamic world.
Do you know that arabs in Sudan do massrape and mass murdering against africans.
GeertToole 1 year ago
@GeertToole I don't know where to begin, your ignorance is profound. Slavery a "legal institution" in Islam? What the hell does that even mean?! The only concept of slavery in Islam are prisoners of war, and details of how to treat them with dignity and open a pathway for their freedom. Slaves could be Arabs, Persians, Africans, has absolutely no racial basis. Islam talks about this because it was what the people were facing during those times, it just teaches them how to deal with it.
blackstars56 1 year ago
@blackstars56
Islam is totalitarian system thats the true there is no ignorance. And what is better in slavery without racial base? Slavery is slavery its very barbarian.
GeertToole 1 year ago
@GeertToole Slavery is very barbaric. Tell that to majority of the white Christian nations that have amassed their fortunes that they have today from those hundreds of years of profiting from slave colonies.
blackstars56 1 year ago
@blackstars56 Slavery still exists in the muslim world, the Royal Navy spent years trying to eradicate it from Africa's east coast. I am sure you are familiar with the term "raisin head". Also the freedom Mohamed gave to his slave was to get one of his first converts. Also his slave had no where to go once freed and so stayed on as a muslim.
Celtic450 11 months ago
@blackstars56
sorry no against arabs killing and raping africans in sudan I mean.
GeertToole 1 year ago
@GeertToole First of all they are all Africans, the North Africans just have Arab influence, language etc. I still don't see your point? Civil wars occur all over Africa. If you bother to learn about the Darfur conflict you would know this conflict is a conflict for land, independence and for oil reserves. There are millions of South Sudanese that live in the North. I don't see your point, this conflict has nothing to do with slavery or race.
blackstars56 1 year ago
@blackstars56
No the arabs in the north wanted to stabilized their rule, the africans were frightend from the slavery. many arab soldiers enslaved africans to earn more money.
GeertToole 1 year ago
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blackstars56 1 year ago
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@GeertToole lol there is not point educating you. you are helpless lol
blackstars56 1 year ago
@blackstars56
The white european nations enslaved for economic reasons not for religious reasons.
GeertToole 1 year ago
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Muslims are more trouble than their worth,they consume more than they produce(Draining the Welfare System),therefore they are no use to our society & they have failed to justify their existence...our leaders must put an end to Muslim immigration NOW if a Muslim holocaust is to be avoided...
hayden50 1 year ago
I pose a question that confuses me. What does it mean to be a moderate Muslim when there is NO innovation tolerated in Islam???
guidance2truth 1 year ago
@guidance2truth A Muslim is someone who submits to Allah alone and follows the teachings of His divine message which is the qur'an, and the example of His chosen messenger, which is the sunnah.
'Moderate', 'liberal', 'fundamentalist', 'radical' and 'extremist' are labels given to Muslims by the West for political reasons.
britishbengaltiger 1 year ago
@guidance2truth Muhammad (pbuh) said, "my religion is a moderate religion.." so that's exactly what it means. The people of the book are reminded in the Quran, "Do not go to extremes in your religion". Unfortunately, some of the muslims themselves have gone to extremes. How about "Invite all to the way of ur Lord, with WISDOM and beautiful preaching, and debate with them in ways that are best". But now we'v become a bunch of dumb n arrogant misguided ppl calling ourselves muslims, SHAME ON US!
MAN4651 1 year ago
TARIQ SPIA DEL MOSSAD
nikola319 1 year ago
If the so-called prophet of Allah were alive today in any European country he would be in jail for his murderous violence, for his Jew-hatred, for his acts of theft, for his bigamy and for his pedophilia (Aisha, his child bride. was 6 years old).
alphecca2539 1 year ago
@alphecca2539 if the Prophet of Allah was alive today, muslims would be ruling over europe
salty4096 1 year ago
Islam is a global religion. It is a religion for the whole of mankind and muhammed pbuh came with a message of tawheed LA ILAHA ILALLAH for the whole of mankind. Islam will overpower,overcome and dominate all other religions.
UmmahTube 1 year ago
Listen to Robert Spencer's discussion with Michael Savage about this stealth jihadist on Youtube.
BlueStreak999 1 year ago
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Why you do not want to learn about Islam, then talk about it ,believe me you lost so much , for your selves please give your selves a little time and read about a 1.8 billion people religion
MrMizo1000000 1 year ago
Listen very carefully to his choice of words.
cjewelz 1 year ago
Muhammed n'avait rien d'un homme de Dieu.Quand on lit le coran et surtout les hadiths, on voit que Muhammed était un vrai brigand. Il tuait, il pillait, il distribuait le butin des gens qu'il attaquait. Il avait des nombreuses femmes, des captives, des esclaves pour sexe acquises en butin. Il a pénétré Aïcha à l'âge de 9 ans. Lisez les hadiths. Le coran est plein d'appels à la violence, à la haine: 4:95, 5:51, 2:191, 2:216, 8:12, 9:5, 9:29, 9:39, 9:123. Bouddha, Jésus étaient des hommes de paix
MegaLoveMessage 1 year ago
Islam is a non european ideology, who wants to dominate and concer the world.
Koran= fashist book, where it is described, how to kill non muslims.
Mohammed= pedofile prophet who slaughtered personally the jewish tribe of nadir quirayza. And killed women and children
Send islam back into the dessert.
phsr0001 1 year ago
@phsr0001 : To be honest - NONE of the three abrahamic religions are european.
januk36 1 year ago
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@januk36 yes sure, you are completely right.
phsr0001 1 year ago
This guy is a such an HYPOCRITE! he is simply the REPRESENTATION OF DOUBLE LANGUAGE. The way he talks in French TV and the way he talk here are soooooooo opposite!!!! there is simply NOTHING IN COMMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I heard in French TV and all he does is BARKING against French culture and european culture. This guy doesn't want to share, but to impose his view! the difference is the way he does it. fighting racism is about listening to each other, not listening to this dick head!
cmwen 1 year ago
@cmwen : Yes, he is a hypocrite and its most showing when he is debating with opponents - his arrogance shines through every fiber of his personality.
januk36 1 year ago
""""""THERE IS NO ALLAH, BUT THE MONEY AND THE FOREIGNERS ARE ITS MESSENGER!""""" Muslim motto!
karletto1234567890 1 year ago
It is not a religion for any region of this earth. It is a religion for humans just like any other religion.
rosenberg011 1 year ago
yes, there are Europeans who are muslims, but they must obey the laws of the lands they live in. They should not immigrate to another nation unless they already agree with it's laws. why would you move to a country who's laws you disagree with? and if you were born in a country you don't agree with, then you should try your best to move somewhere else that you agree with more. Don't impose your religious beliefs on the majority.
pseudonamed 1 year ago
stop racism against muslims people
shame on you (the last comments)
forclaS 1 year ago
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wasincox 1 year ago
"We must exploit the so-called democracy and freedom of speech here in the West to reach our goals. Our Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and the Koran teach us that we must use every conceivable means and opportunity to defeat the enemies of Allah. Tell the infidels in public, we respect your laws and your constitutions, which we Muslims believe that these are as worthless as the paper they are written on. The only law we must respect and apply is the Shari’a." - Tariq Ramadan
polka23dot 1 year ago
@polka23dot wow, what a hypocrite.
pseudonamed 1 year ago
@pseudonamed
I agree with polka23
littletiger2020 1 year ago
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"The real intentions of Euroislam must be concealed from the general public." - Tariq Ramadan
More interesting quotations from Tariq Ramadan and other notable Muslims:
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Tariq Ramadan is a viper in our midst (thanks to Hillary Clinton): h t t p : / / tiny url . c o m / y8dp323
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polka23dot 1 year ago
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He is right. European legacy is not built upon just greek, roman or judeochristian legacy it is also built upon struggle against Islam, be it reconquista in SW Europe or centuries long effort to repel Turks from SE Europe and Balkans. Sorry Mr. Ramadan, Islam is NOT a European religion, it will never be and it was always perceived as an alien element.
LKHK76 1 year ago
BULL SHIT!
jipi145 1 year ago 7
@jipi145 you're one narrow-minded ignorant piece of shit...
hamdustan 1 year ago 7
L'islam n'est pas une religion européenne ! Et bien sûr que oui, l'islam vient de l'immigration ! C'est évident, il y a encore 50 ans, il n'y avait presque pas un seul musulman en Europe occidentale ! Et ça tu le sais très bien Tariq !
57lorrain57 1 year ago 2
complètement faux et vous le savez très bien il y a plus de 50 ans l'armée française elle-même comportait des musulmans ...et puis l'islam est présent en europe depuis le début du moyen age en Espagne notamment et en europe orientale
benkimoon 1 year ago
Islam is coming to takeover atheist nations! God's punishment is upon us!
ONLY A CATHOLIC STATE WILL RESIST GOVERNMENT PLANS FOR YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC WIPEOUT AND ISLAMISATION BY IDIOT SECULAR GOVERNANCE!! Prepare for a Catholic State - or prepare for your burka!
amaqula 1 year ago
@amaqula Even though my views are completely antithetical to Islam in all its forms. This amaqula is a total fruit cake. He would replace one fascist religious ideology with another. Different packaging, same result. Why don't you shove your medievalist ,superstious magic up your crabby little arse. What do Protestants call the Catholic Church? The Whore of Babylon. I might add their also the biggest organised paedophile gang on the planet.
daubreyjaneweirdsley 1 year ago
@daubreyjaneweirdsley
Listen to the pagan - lambasting Christianity while feeding off its achievements and success. There is a word for you - and since you were so disgusting to me I will call you it - it's Parasite. That's atheists for you.
CATHOLIC STATE - mother of the West - FOREVER!!!!!!!!
amaqula 1 year ago
Tariq Ramadan is brilliant !!!!!!!!!!
oceanbound222 1 year ago
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Ramadan is the charismatic front face of muslim brotherhood forbidden in egypt, with the agenda to undermine democratic institutions and introducing sharia. He supported Hamas, which is the regional arm of Iran. Shalom.
januk36 1 year ago
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"The real intentions of Euroislam must be concealed from the general public." - Tariq Ramadan
Tariq Ramadan is a viper in our midst (thanks to Hillary Clinton): h t t p : / / tiny url . c o m / y8dp323
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polka23dot 1 year ago
Ramadan is the charismatic front face of muslim brotherhood forbidden in egypt and with the agenda to undermine democratic institutions and introducing sharia.
januk36 1 year ago 9
Islam is not a religion. Islam is a death cult. It is a totalitarian political ideology. It Islam deserves to be outlawed. It is against all our values of freedom and human rights.
bhigr 1 year ago 2
Islam is a European Religion because there are many Muslims who live in Europe. That's fine. BUT, Muslims have to accept & respect the laws of the land they live in. The Muslim community is asking for (democracy based) tolerance in order to import 'anti-democratic', 'anti-tolerance' practices which undermine the very basis of the society they want to join. And all this "20 mill. workers" talk is pure nonsense and a facade. A moratorium on stoning (which you proposed) is not enough, Tariq!
piwinter 1 year ago 3
@piwinter Muslims (just like communists) are full of democracy and freedom of expression and the most vocal preachers of human righs only until the very moment they gain upper hand
LKHK76 1 year ago
@LKHK76 I don't thing Islam claims democracy and freedom as their main goals, or human rights for that matter (unlike Communist who were fighting for freedom from the ruling class, freedom from economic oppression etc.). These two are not related, quite the opposite. If you want to be very cynical about it, you would compare radical Muslims with Fascism: to use democracy's own weakness in order to destroy it, to use 'freedom of speech' to preach against 'freedom of speech' etc.
piwinter 1 year ago
@piwinter "unlike Communist who were fighting for freedom from the ruling class, freedom from economic oppression etc." Please don't tell me you seriously believe what you wrote.
LKHK76 1 year ago
@LKHK76 It's not what I believe that matters. I'm saying you are making a wrong comparison. Islam is a religion, not 'just' a political movement. What do you want? A simplistic, reductionist "they are all bad!"? That doesn't explain anything. And I surely don't need a lecture about Communism. My grandfather was killed during the Stalin purges of 1936/1937 in Ukraine. My other grandfather was shot in 1945 in Czechoslovakia, my father survived the bombing of Dresden, I was born in Siberia, OK?
piwinter 1 year ago
@piwinter wrote: Islam is a European Religion...
Islam is neither european, nor a religion, but organized crime. It has much more in common with Ku Klux Klan, Mara Salvatrucha, and German Nazi ideology than a religion.
polka23dot 1 year ago
@polka23dot
Well, that explains everything...Ooh, you forgot Stalin and Pol Pot. So, 4 million Muslim Turks in Germany (there since the 1960's) are all criminals? I guess just like all those criminal Mexicans in the U.S.? C'mon man, read a history book or two! I'm not going to defend Wahhabism Islam here but historically the 'West' has intruded into the Muslim world more often than the other away around, and with a much bigger 'death toll'.
piwinter 1 year ago
@polka23dot very good argument. best regards from germany. yes islam is an ideology
coranic schools = hitler youth
mohammed= adolf hitler
coran = the book "mein Kampf"
phsr0001 1 year ago
if a bunch of Europeans, like French, go to Morroco and Algeria (which they did and had to leave after a bloody war), does that make those countries the natural home for them? Obviously the Algerians didn't seem to think so. So why now is Tariq Ramadan bullshiting people. I know that's his job, but it doesn't mean we have to buy it.
Stferdinanddhalifax 1 year ago
@Stferdinanddhalifax If the Moroccans invite a bunch of Europeans over because they need workers to grow and thrive, and grant then citizenship, then yes, they become Moroccans. How you can compare colonialism to immigration is beyond me, and suggests you need a good history and politics lesson.
MrStartingGun 1 year ago
@MrStartingGun You, like you're sociologist-priest hero Ramandan are splitting hairs.
Colonialism and immigration are not separate issues, they are two sides of the same coin in this case, since the dominant ideology of those pushing for more immigration is inherently anti-colonialist. European history = bad. African history = victims. It is with this logic we can get the political correctness that allows what would absolutely be disallowed if the shoe was on the other foot.
Stferdinanddhalifax 1 year ago
@Stferdinanddhalifax Wait, back up a minute...are you actually arguing that colonialism is a good thing? Because that's what it sounds like.
MrStartingGun 1 year ago
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Stferdinanddhalifax 1 year ago
@MrStartingGun
Colonialism, in part, led to our current world. It is difficult, for someone who is used to the standards of life of a major Western country, not to recognize the process by which we got there, even the less savoury aspects. That said I wouldn't wish the History of the world not unfolding the way it did, even if it includes such horrible things. Colonialism is also really useful for communitarians in their quest to guilt people to death.
Stferdinanddhalifax 1 year ago
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the jizya (poor-due), then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. - Quran, 9:5
Disclaimer: The above verse is presented completely out of context. Hence the difficulty to ackknowledge its hidden message of peace. In my word "RIP infidel".
januk36 1 year ago
France is too good to it Muslims and let me tell you there have shown no signs of integration! Perhaps some people feel the host countries need to understand them I would argue it's time they understood the country they live in, they are citizens of and claim benefits from! It's time to give West Europe something back in return for all the goodwill! East Europe does have citizenship rights for any immigrants so I specifically say west Europe. We give them full rights so no excuses please!
Avanti27 1 year ago 2
@Avanti27 "East Europe does have citizenship rights for any immigrants" well that's painting the picture witha very broad brush and citizenship laws are very country-specific. If anything parts of Central and whole Eastern Europe still have the luxury of having a chance not to repeat the mistakes of Western Europe when it comes to muslim immigration and avoid creation of disloyal, towards the host culture hostile parallel societies and 5th colums of muslim terrorism
LKHK76 1 year ago
he is a good actor, but everybody knows that religion is good for regulation of society and birth control. look at the gaza strip, where there is unlimited number of birth and islam extremism is stronger now. also at judeism.
power of a king is in the number of his population.
z2ara 1 year ago
He is not a Muslim.
He is a munafiq!!!!'
Shamrockdalegend 1 year ago
@Shamrockdalegend go fuck shamrock you idiot
rekenmaaropmij 1 year ago
Look at his eyes light when he says 20million and most of them will be Muslims. This man will never help Europe, He will only help create an Islamic state in Europe in the future say 50 years from now...
view587 1 year ago
In your view what is an Islamic state? And where did you get the info that formed your model of an Islamic state? I'm asking because I know that finding a comprehensive model on Shariah law in western countries and language is extremely difficult. A good vid on utube (though long) if you would like to get a comprehensive model of an Islamic state is 'Islamic Law: Barbaric or Misunderstood? by Hamza Andreas Tzortis.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@view587 why you so scared
a2zproductionz 1 year ago
@a2zproductionz I am not scared! I fear that muslims will force West Europe into extremism! and we all know the history of Europe when it is pushed to extreme limits
Avanti27 1 year ago
If there can be a jewish state of Israel whats wrong with Islamic state? It doesnt seem fair does it?
8h9j9h8 1 year ago
A European is a person who knows the evil of totalitarian ideologies like fascism and communism, and, nowadays, the vicious threat of islam. Islam has got nothing to do with Europe, despite what this dangerous lunatic liar says, because Europe represents exactly what islam rejects: tolerance and compromise.
drydust999 1 year ago
an excellent point drydust999....the only thing is that this Ramadan is not a lunatic..the lunatics are our politicians who allow millions of individuals who hate the West, who hate Europe, who actually one could say --hate white people (and I do not differentiate people based on color but the attitudes of Muslims --are hitting in the face) to come here...Ramadan is simply an enemy ..
Kbrt111 1 year ago
this guy is very dangerous and play a double game
armandoRai 1 year ago
The plot to take over the world will fail, we are onto their Stealth Jihad everywhere in the world. Sharia Law is pure EVIL!
ctusa777 2 years ago
@escfromsam All those marking you negative are just not European! Tariq Ramadan is a poser with a swiss passport. Having a European passport does not make you European!
view587 2 years ago
what does make a person european? because i recall your so called western science which says that Homo Sapiens were originally from Africa. then they moved to asia and europe etc.
paghmaniforreal 2 years ago
@paghmaniforreal Hello? European values are not the same as those of mr Ramadan. stoning women to death just for starters?
view587 1 year ago
what does, skin colour? or do your ancestors have to be ruthless viking savages?
rednekbnp 1 year ago
@view587
no tariq ramadan grow up in swiss and goes to european schools and he is a professor in european university and he is european because he is swiss citizen , sarkozy is french even if his parents was not french and bonaparte is french even if he came from italy!
MrDardacha 1 year ago
@MrDardacha
the fact that he grew up in Switzerland does not make him a European.
Even if his parents were born there it would not necessarily make him a European.
Passport does not mean a thing nowadays. Absolutely nothing. I can be a professor at Japanese or Chinese university, get their passport somehow maybe, but will I EVER become a Chinese or Japanese? NOT A CHANCE!
Romy108 1 year ago
you talk about european culture, may be he have european culture or may be not, but he is a european citizen and have the same rights and obligations like any other european citizen, and for me he has an european culture because he is banned in saudi arabia and in egypt and many other arab country beacause he don't share the same principles and ideas with arab govs (he was also banned in usa!) but never in europe! his first language is french! so i can beleive he is an europeaneuropean
MrDardacha 1 year ago
@MrDardacha
you can believe what you want. Jamaicans speak English as their first language, but it does not make them Europeans. European means White. Please don't confuse ideas. The fact that he is influenced by White culture does not make him European. I might be influenced by Tibetan and Chinese culture, but it does not turn me into a Tibetan, right?
Or not?
Romy108 1 year ago
@Romy108
white culture!? culture is about principles not about colors! Mr Tariq is born on european country and he have the same rights and obligations as the other swiss citizens so he is a european citizen! what you say can't change this fact!
MrDardacha 1 year ago
@view587 what constitues 'europeanism'?
generalzeedot 1 year ago
There is nothing European about this poser! He wants Family Sharia, he wants separate swimming pools for girls, he is taking Europe to be an Islamic haven! he never strongly condemns hate speech of Imams, He never strongly condemns stoning as a punishment and the swiss Muslims don't give a toss about him so he brainwashes the French Muslims who are more radical!
view587 2 years ago 4
Islam is a religion of Europe and the World.
Christianity is a religion of Europe and the World.
Buddhism is a religion of Europe and the World.
Judaism is a religion of Europe and the World.
Of course it is. We have to respect all religions, we have to respect all those who are atheists, we have to find peace in each other and work from there and good things will happen. Tariq is a great speaker for Islam or Europeans and Americans, he helps us understand that Islam is positive as well.
kpcmg 2 years ago
@kpcmg Please don't put Islam and Buddhism on the same level! There is no Jihad in one! read and figure of which one!
view587 2 years ago
doesn't inner struggle plant the seeds for inner peace? that sounds like jihad to me. in fact, many muslims believe that Buddha was also one of the many divine prophets of God because his original message is so pure and congenial to the original teachings of muhammad, jesus, and moses. I should emphasize ORIGINAL as in UNADULTERATED and by men who followed them...
nimbunimbu 1 year ago
There is a concept of just war and self defense in Buddhism, just like in every religion.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
islam, the psychotic cult of death and deceipt, isn't European. Fuck, it doesn't even belong in the universe, let along Europe. moslems are non human shit-sacs. PIG shit-sacs.
islamsucksallah 2 years ago
Read Quran. u will find out about Islam. Peace! Islam is submission to the will of the one God! Peace be upon those who follow the right path, the path of the one God.
lahdjam 2 years ago
All I needed to know about 'islam', the psychotic cult of death for the mentally insane', I learned on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. Then other lovely events like 7/7, Madrid, islam slaughtering all those innocent school children in Chechnya, the moslem cunt at Fort Hood, and now this fucking non human moslem sack of pig shit trying to blow of the Detroit plane. allah, the god of pigs, needs to die.
islamsucksallah 2 years ago 3
@lahdjam you read your fascist book and leave us alone!
view587 2 years ago
Use intelligent,not emotion.Are you women?
miemusha4 2 years ago
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navh07 2 years ago
@navh07 whatever the religion of Europe is it is certainly not Islam!
view587 2 years ago
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navh07 2 years ago
You talk like Secularism is a bad thing.
If you don't like what you see, you know what to do.
ExtremeBogom 2 years ago
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view587 2 years ago
Reply to view587: you have a dogmatic, simplistic way of thinking, fed by an advance innate hate of the other! Relax! The guy has a lot of good points, we should wake up, man!
Persol31 2 years ago
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screw him
Gregoryde 2 years ago
I hardly think you Europeans can talk about expelling the Muslims when you'll highly promote the right to abortions? Who's going to expel them? You and who else? U aborted and finished off your own people. Islam will not conquier Europe with an army, mererly vote it in!
savioblanc 2 years ago
France should and must tremble because Allah is coming to Paris. All MUslims are going to have cheese as long as you leave the Swedish women alone because I want them for myself. BE scared very scared, we are ready to eat you
MoonEar1973 2 years ago
Like I said: we Muslims are ready to eat people and drink their blood, we will have no mercy on children or women and we gonna cut down trees and dry your rivers and burn your houses. I am taking all the Swedish ladies for me and am not going to share with my brothers. Don't call me because I will be busy fucking most of them.
MoonEar1973 2 years ago
Islam is a European Religion? is it a joke? I guess so, it is for me...
Romy108 2 years ago 4
@Romy108
no it isn't a joke ot's a reality!
MrDardacha 1 year ago
So basically he saying - "You lost Europe to islam , we are becoming the majority , so get over it ! ".
Ask yourself - when islam will dominate Europe , for how long Christianity or Judaism will be allowed ? Before you answer this question look at Saudi Arabia or Iran .
Muslims - please don't bother to reply on this , i had enough of your - "Jewish fuck" , i am Russian .
Mifodiy35 2 years ago
@Mifodiy35
I think if Islam will try to dominate Europe, it will be the end of Islam. They should try get get the A-bomb asap. Islam+nuke=nuked Mecca
Romy108 2 years ago
In general i agree with you , every violence should be dealt with more violence . However France for example has already passed point of no return . Today in France between 10-20 % are muslims . In about 20-30 years from now they will be the majority(if their birthrate remains) . France is nuclear armed state . Do you really want to nuke Eiffel Tower ?
Mifodiy35 2 years ago
So nobody really knows how many Muslims are there? What does it say about the governments?
And if we start expelling them at a rate of a thousand per day, there will be only half of them left in 20 years time. :-o
I don't think French will ever let Muslims near their nuclear command, majority or not.
Romy108 2 years ago
Well i don't think it's up to French to decide ... France is a democracy , so the majority can elect it's own government .
Muslims use our own democracy against us .If some imaam preaching violence ,he can do it because of freedom of speech . But if someone expose it (Geert Wilders), it considered to be a hate speech .
So i don't think expelling them is option , at least while islam is a legit religion . Only solution is ban on islam .
Mifodiy35 2 years ago
"Rivers of Blood"
Romy108 2 years ago
it will the end of democracy as we know it. If it doesn't work for the natives, it doesn't work.
Romy108 2 years ago