Hi my name is Steve and I'm an HHO-aholic

[6tortured6soul6]

I responded cause this video has not have a response in a while.

[malartha225]

where did you get your pwm from?

[Shiggitydiggityz]

you're

English isnt that difficult...

[xpyrox69]

say my name noobbbb lol

[damoshpod]

That's quite an endevour. Good luck to you comrad!

[MuddyBassist]

can't help you with your addiction,

except not talking to me maybe :D

good to know there's still other thinkers around!

cheers from Belgium

[Hooverdarnit]

Steve, If you'tre a HHO addict, you should enjoy my "AIR POWER HYDROGEN CELL GENERATOR" Look it up and give me your feedback please. THX.. BRAD

[dahduke]

Hi Steve , great video i,m an HHO Aholic also sorry i dont have a scan guage 2 to trade for those awesome sounding cookies as you know nothing goes better with HHO then cookies. well keep up the good work

Duke :)

[b18c5integra]

this is informative yet funny

[69coqui69]

THKS a Million for the info. I will soon start on my first Smack Cell !!!!!!!!!!!!

[69coqui69]

steve where did you finaly find your nylon threaded rod???

STS1GeorgeV

[AlmostHydrogen]

mcmaster (.) com

do a search for "5/16 inch threaded nylon rod"

[NOBOX7]

lol...lol

[betodeco]

steve u should change your name to hho-aholic good luck amigo

[BLONDININZ]

A neutral plate sounds like a good idea, ill do that.

Can i have your E-Mail address so i can send you some pics of what i have done.

Thanks

Chris (New Zealand)

[BLONDININZ]

Hi, Keep up the good work. I have a 5 plate system that i am building with cable tyies between the plates but it heats up the water pretty fast. HELP.

Thanks

Chris (New Zealand)

[AlmostHydrogen]

Hi Chris,

For heat it could be your electrolyte is too strong & draws a lot of amps. You might also want to add some neutral plates to your system - that will help reduce the heat too. you only need about 2 volts per plate, anything over that turns into heat, which draws more amps.

I hope this helps.

Steve

[john29302]

keep coming back...with a car that gets 49 miles per gallon

[AlmostHydrogen]

49 mpg... that would be

SWEET!

[shamansays]

If you decide to build a torch, you might want to perform those experiments outside.

[AlmostHydrogen]

your absolutely right about that.

:)

[shamansays]

Welcome to the group!

[kpo86]

Hi steve

[AlmostHydrogen]

LOL, ahh the joy of therapy sessions.

;)

[cribcat1]

you're killin me!

[webovisionca]

Steve- I think Smack uses stainless steel outlet covers that you can buy at a hardware store for about $3. May be less expensive than getting plates fabricated. I am building a Smacks booster too. Good luck

[AlmostHydrogen]

yea I did go that route. I finished building my Smack booster and it wasnt that hard. Just followed the Smack's directions. Check out my vid 003.

Thanks for stopping by. I hope you post vids of your build.

Keep up the good work.

[AlmostHydrogen]

If I came off sounding like EVERY automaker on the planet has researched hho, that is not true, nor is it what I said.

I hope this clears up any confusion.

:)

[AlmostHydrogen]

BTW they are hydrogen cars w/ tanks & ones w/ on demand systems = see vid "H2O Car - Water Powered Car".

If a vehicle can operate & get increase MPG w/ just hydrogen, it seems to me that if an assist system is used in a regular vehicle, it would experience some type of gain.

Again, all the more reason to give it a try.

AH

[AlmostHydrogen]

All the makers of the hydrogen vehicles coming out in the near future have all done research & testing on assist systems to some degree or another. However it seems they want to totally fore go the assist sytems, as it will only be a temporary solution. It makes sense too - why build an assist when you can build a car to totally on hydrogen.

[AlmostHydrogen]

another thing to consider are O2 sensors and other equipment to allow the vehicle, if needed, to adjust to the new mixture.

Anyway, I am just going to start with a cell and go from there.

:)

[AlmostHydrogen]

I plan on a fixed route consisting of both city and highway and use the cruise control at specific points to eliminate as much driver interference as much as possible - that way I get results for both driving conditions, which involve only the vehicle.

Again I am going into this to find out if all this talk is true. However since most of the major auto makers in the U.S. and abroad are developing cars with hho assisted systems, I do not think its "quackery".

Still time & tests will tell.

[danmcc22]

You are correct, it only takes about 30HP to keep the average car at 60MPH due wind resistance etc. That's 22Kw AT THE WHEELS or about 65Kw from the fuel. So 240W is still very hard the measure in MPG.

You will probabely could measure a few percent MPG loss at constant low speeds in a small car because it takes less energy to keep the vehicle moving, and the 240W actually requires about 700W from the fuel.

An AC uses HP big time and does noticablly effect mileage.

[jdcmusicman]

Great video man

HAHA yeah I just become a hho-holic myself bout 2 months ago ,installed a cell in 93 ford explorer 2 weeks ago ,it runs alot better but didnt get but 2 or 3 mpg gain, going to put one in a 97 nissan next week ,hope to get bettre results with it ,anytips from any of you folks would be appreciated ..

[asiaollie]

Hey jdcmusicman how much hho are you producing? and where did you inject it. I am producing around a liter a min when cold and once warmed up a liter and a half. Pulling around 20 amps hot using sodium hydroxide with a little alcohol and distilled water. I have it injected into the air intake right before the butterfly and teed into the pvc intake. I am not using a bubbler I used a 4" to 2" pipe fitting which allows very little room for excess hho and I found a top off of a carpet cleaner can.

[asiaollie]

I used 4" pvc pipe too. I made my own plates out of some scrap stainless. What I did was put 11 plates in it 4" x 12" and I put the 11 plates together and did like hydrogen tap did in his vid and cut out one corner so I could have pos and neg and when you flip the plate upside down you have neutral plates if you space the nylon rod holes correctly. Then I took a grinder and grounded a peak on the sides too the center plate roughly a 45 degree angle. This allowed all plates too fit exactly.

[AlmostHydrogen]

True Dan theres only a fixed amount of hho produced from a fixed amount of water, true. Hence the need to add water.

As for "energy needed to make hho exceeds energy u get burning it in the engine", well the energy is already there, just not used. Whats the difference between a fuel cell & a big car stereo/video system? Nothing.

So why not take that unused energy to make hho & reduce the amount of gasoline you use?

Ummm... sounds like a good idea, but as I said well see if it works or not.

[danmcc22]

Not sure how you make the point that there is free energy now not being used. If you are drawing extra power from the vehicle's electrical system, then the vehicle's generator must load the engine accordingly. However if a small amount of hydrogen, oxygen and water vapor added to gasoline combustion can somehow increase engine efficiency, then maybe something can be gained. It would need to be a catalytic or mechanical effect of some kind, not hydrogen energy alone.

[AlmostHydrogen]

From what I see, its not free AND its not used to its full capacity.

Even w/ a greater load on the battery, alternator, etc its offset by the improvement in MPG. Point is an additional load on the batt/alternator costs nothing as long as the system doesnt overload (& u 2 need repair/replace stuff).

If what u said was true, we'd see a decrease in MPG w/ the more electronic stuff added (which we do not see).

Good questions. I'm gonna ask a few experts & see what they say (mech & stereo guy).

[danmcc22]

The reason you do not see a decrease in MPG when running extra electronics is that the added load is too small to be measured in MPG.

A 150HP car engine produces 112KW of power. A 20Amp load (240W) would reduce mileage by .02%at full 150HP output. Even at normal driving speeds, with less that 150HP needed, the energy used to move the car down a road dwarfs the extra 240W load.

[AlmostHydrogen]

Oh, as for the requiring a catalytic or mechanical thingy and not hydrogen alone, we'll see when I do my before & after tests.

If I get gains with hydrogen alone, then there is also the possibility of greater gains with additional mechanical "tweaks".

As I said, we'll see either way.

[danmcc22]

What I meant by "mechanical" means was the way the tiny amount of added gas may inter-act with combustion, not tuning.

The HHO idea has been around for 70 plus years and has never produced a viable main stream MPG increasing product, and physics says it will not work.

But I believe you are an honest person and I am never 100% sure of anything. So I'll keep an open mind and wait and see what you find.

Once again, good luck.

[asiaollie]

I too am an hho-holic. You will get gains. I got a cell I built on my 4.0 liter ranger started at 17.6 and now i am up too 25.7 so it does work!!!!! yes  Gonna go for 30mpg so I am looking forward too your vids.

[AlmostHydrogen]

Wow @ a 68% increase right? Thats impressive - good job.

I hoping for a 40-50% increase, but as with everything I'm sure there will be some mistakes & lessons learned.

Again, good job on your ranger.

[jdcmusicman]

I have 93 explorer with the 4.0 in it only getting like 2 or 3 mpg gain, could use some pointers ,like how much hho you pumping out and did you have to do anything to any electronics like add a map enhancer or anything? Thanks

[danmcc22]

I hate to burst the bubble but here is the bottom line on electrolytic hydrogen production. The amount of energy needed to separate the hydrogen and oxygen gases from water greatly exceeds the amount of energy you can get from burning the resulting gases in an engine. So you gain nothing by doing so. Sorry.

[AlmostHydrogen]

Hi Dan,

So your saying I will not make gains in MPG (miles per gallon)? Ummm... maybe.

BUT I plan on getting mpg readings w/out a cell. Build one, install it, & take readings to see if there r any gains. The proof is in the pudding right?

If there r no gains, then your right & I end up having a good time & learn some stuff. However if I do make gains, that means your wrong & I still have a good time & learn some stuff.

;)

I'll be sure to post results whatever they are (good or bad).

[eatbutnotpuke]

You WILL get gains in MPG!

danmcc22 didn't get how it works.

there's no energy coming out of nowhere.

it's just a method to burn ALL the fuel that's injected into your engine. HHO helps the fuel to burn more complete instead of blowing it out of your exhaust.

good luck!

[AlmostHydrogen]

Yea thats what I have been reading too.

[danmcc22]

Well you are right, it's always fun to experiment and learn new things and who knows maybe I've missed something. I will stay tuned watching for your results. Good luck.

[crob227]

i need to join.