can you tell me how u modified the pedals to feel more like heli pedals?i have the saitek pro pedals, and they feel nothing like the r22 or or 300c pedals, any help on a pedal mod would be very helpfull to me. u can email me at kjspearman@yahoo.com
Nice system, but you know what's really needed. That ugly stone age hanging bar on the Robinson 22 helicopter and linkage. Not hard to design. You'll just need an ugly massive overhanging structure. The R22 is going to be the first helicopter most people will touch. Already being familiar with stick action will take you very far.
When it comes down to it, neither FSX or X-Plane are that accurate compared to a real helicopter. I have a lot of time in various helicopters, from 500's and 269's to the Bell 206. Ultimately, these SIMS are ideal for learning the coordination required for basic maneuvers, practicing approaches and hovering, but they are far from being that realistic....and I'm a huge supporter of using simulators in training.
Have you tried the FSX version of the dodosim 206? I hear thats meant to be the best there is, its annoying when you get nothing but positive reviews, largely from people who have never flown in real life.
Hate to break it to you but when it comes to helicopters, X-plane models the flight characteristics way more realistically then MSFS..Helicopters in MSFS are very dull and lack the flight dynamics of real rotorcraft.
Hey jwa!Everyone check out jwa's sim-it's off the hook.Man, this is a fantastic job you've done on your simulator....it's the best I've seen yet, you obviously have some electronic/engineering experience, and I like the way you think outside the box.What sim program are you using? XPlane? How did your throttle controls interface with the actual simulator...did they work well? One beef f I had with X-Plane, the heli throttle in a non-governed mode was totally inacurate. yours is awesome!
SWEET DUDE!!!! I love how there is no REAL affordable version of this and that we have to build our own! Great job! Check mine out. I love the bungee cord and cable ideas! If I redo mine those will be in in the design. Hope to see you in the skys!!!!
Nice! Question: The connection between the collective and the CH throttle just looks like a cable...cool, but how does the throttle go down when the collective is lowered? Bungee cord?
It is simply a stiff piece of aluminum wire, and as very little force is required to raise and lower the CH Throttle, it is the simplest way of linking the collective lever to the actual CH products control. If you let go of the collective it lowers on it's own very slowly, as i have the pivot point nut and bolt fairly snug to be like the real deal.
Hey Crop Duster, nice work. I'm going to start mine right away! Also, how did you get into Ag? How many hours did you have to get into it? I'm working on CFI currently and am interested in Ag work. Cheers and nice tinkering!
Awesome! Don't know how to weld, though, but was able to find an old wooden kitchen chair and some lumber in the basement. Doesn't look as good as yours, but works just like it I guess...
Well this was really impressive. The pedals make my head spin a bit - it's not very complicated when you show it up close but it still takes a bit to get my head around. The collective is so simply brilliant, it sort of leaves you smacking your head and thinking "of course!"
Thanks for the nice message mate...I had a lot of fun making it. Although I used 3/4inch Galvanized pipe accessories for the pedals, you could also use PVC and PVC glue-with the galvi, I had to drill holes and rivet them to keep them from twisting in their threads.I think PVC would be the way to go.The video looks a bit overexposed, so I hope you can see details closer...I shot it with a crapy little camera.
it`s not that necessary to be smart ..... you are telling about the collective and that you are using certain parts "in your real helicopter" .... ;-DD
That was the moment when I listened even more carefully! Man, you don`t have any idea how much I would like to be in such a position as you are! (beeing a "real" heli-pilot :-) Lucky guy you are!
I was only joking with you mate...ya, I do remind myself regularly of how lucky I am...I worked really hard for it. But let me tell you mate, it can be done...I went from being unhappy working in NYC as a photographer, to selling all my cameras and puting myself through flight school...you can do it too...if you want something bad enough, I'd bet nothing could stop you!
Thank you for your reply! Sounds like adventure, what you are telling! Actually I flew the Robinson R22 in real life, it was in USA, New Mexico, and a long time ago! :-)
There is one thing more: I realized, living in USA is much, much better than living in germany, when you want to fly something!! Simple reason: flying in germany is much more expensive than in USA! One fu...nny liter of gasoline costs about 2 us dollars!! ... and sometimes even more! .. and also because of other reasons! Unfortunately!
I am a fan of you! This is realy great man! 5+! I am dreaming about having such a thing! Exactly that`s it! Heieiei ... I wish I had the skill to build this and the place to put it somewhere! ;-D But some day ... who knows!
Lent this set-up to a friend who logged maybe 50 hours on it before going to flight school...he ended up hovering in about an hour...better than the average of 5-7 hours...and at $300+ an hour...saved some dough. I recently talked to test pilot
Shawn Coyle, and he said that a student can learn 68% of required skills in a simulator, the rest of course...you have to take the plunge!
Tubeviews [dot net] finally, a way for your video to be seen. I can't believe what has been kept secret from us this whole time. Enjoy and Be Blessed!
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deraidos45 4 months ago
can you tell me how u modified the pedals to feel more like heli pedals?i have the saitek pro pedals, and they feel nothing like the r22 or or 300c pedals, any help on a pedal mod would be very helpfull to me. u can email me at kjspearman@yahoo.com
kremecheze 9 months ago
Nice system, but you know what's really needed. That ugly stone age hanging bar on the Robinson 22 helicopter and linkage. Not hard to design. You'll just need an ugly massive overhanging structure. The R22 is going to be the first helicopter most people will touch. Already being familiar with stick action will take you very far.
trexinvert 1 year ago
Great Apparatus. Basic, effective. Inexpensive. CHeers
strannick32 1 year ago
Use FSX. i have both and for helicopter flying, FSX is more realistic
TheSPilot 1 year ago
When it comes down to it, neither FSX or X-Plane are that accurate compared to a real helicopter. I have a lot of time in various helicopters, from 500's and 269's to the Bell 206. Ultimately, these SIMS are ideal for learning the coordination required for basic maneuvers, practicing approaches and hovering, but they are far from being that realistic....and I'm a huge supporter of using simulators in training.
CropDusterMan 1 year ago
@CropDusterMan
Have you tried the FSX version of the dodosim 206? I hear thats meant to be the best there is, its annoying when you get nothing but positive reviews, largely from people who have never flown in real life.
eggman6 1 year ago
@eggman6
Might want to try X-plane out for size, the helicopter flight dynamics are eons ahead of MSFS.
motokid032 10 months ago
@TheSPilot
Hate to break it to you but when it comes to helicopters, X-plane models the flight characteristics way more realistically then MSFS..Helicopters in MSFS are very dull and lack the flight dynamics of real rotorcraft.
MSFS is more of a GAME than a simulator..
motokid032 10 months ago
Hey fantastic job, thanks for sharing!
michaelking42 2 years ago
Hey jwa!Everyone check out jwa's sim-it's off the hook.Man, this is a fantastic job you've done on your simulator....it's the best I've seen yet, you obviously have some electronic/engineering experience, and I like the way you think outside the box.What sim program are you using? XPlane? How did your throttle controls interface with the actual simulator...did they work well? One beef f I had with X-Plane, the heli throttle in a non-governed mode was totally inacurate. yours is awesome!
CropDusterMan 2 years ago
SWEET DUDE!!!! I love how there is no REAL affordable version of this and that we have to build our own! Great job! Check mine out. I love the bungee cord and cable ideas! If I redo mine those will be in in the design. Hope to see you in the skys!!!!
jwa1882 2 years ago
Nice! Question: The connection between the collective and the CH throttle just looks like a cable...cool, but how does the throttle go down when the collective is lowered? Bungee cord?
naja002 2 years ago
Hey Naja,
It is simply a stiff piece of aluminum wire, and as very little force is required to raise and lower the CH Throttle, it is the simplest way of linking the collective lever to the actual CH products control. If you let go of the collective it lowers on it's own very slowly, as i have the pivot point nut and bolt fairly snug to be like the real deal.
Thanks for watching and good luck! :o)
CropDusterMan 2 years ago
Great!!.. Simple ideas.....but the great ones always are.
jcbak 2 years ago
good effort, nice job. simple and cheap
ht6501 2 years ago
Brilliant!
klextacy 2 years ago
My pleasure Debbie,
CH Products makes some excellent
hardware...I learned the basics on them!Best,
Jason
CropDusterMan 2 years ago
@CropDusterMan
I posted this on our Facebook page! :-)
FlyCHProducts 2 years ago
Very cool indeed! Thanks for posting this for everyone!
Debby McDowell, CH Products
DebbyMcD760 2 years ago
Hey Crop Duster, nice work. I'm going to start mine right away! Also, how did you get into Ag? How many hours did you have to get into it? I'm working on CFI currently and am interested in Ag work. Cheers and nice tinkering!
toddj8633 2 years ago
Hi Everyone...one day soon, I'll remake this video on a decent HD camera....this was made with a shitty point and shoot...sorry it sucks so bad!
CropDusterMan 2 years ago
Awesome! Don't know how to weld, though, but was able to find an old wooden kitchen chair and some lumber in the basement. Doesn't look as good as yours, but works just like it I guess...
andyw248 2 years ago
Well this was really impressive. The pedals make my head spin a bit - it's not very complicated when you show it up close but it still takes a bit to get my head around. The collective is so simply brilliant, it sort of leaves you smacking your head and thinking "of course!"
Really nice work.
Corsair8X 2 years ago
Hi Corsair!
Thanks for the nice message mate...I had a lot of fun making it. Although I used 3/4inch Galvanized pipe accessories for the pedals, you could also use PVC and PVC glue-with the galvi, I had to drill holes and rivet them to keep them from twisting in their threads.I think PVC would be the way to go.The video looks a bit overexposed, so I hope you can see details closer...I shot it with a crapy little camera.
Best wishes, CropDusterMan
CropDusterMan 2 years ago
Hey Master, which "real" helicopter are you flying??
thepiarno 2 years ago
You being a smart-ass? ;o) Sounds like it.
I fly a 1969 Bell 206 for Ag work.
CropDusterMan 2 years ago
it`s not that necessary to be smart ..... you are telling about the collective and that you are using certain parts "in your real helicopter" .... ;-DD
That was the moment when I listened even more carefully! Man, you don`t have any idea how much I would like to be in such a position as you are! (beeing a "real" heli-pilot :-) Lucky guy you are!
thepiarno 2 years ago
Hi Piarno,
I was only joking with you mate...ya, I do remind myself regularly of how lucky I am...I worked really hard for it. But let me tell you mate, it can be done...I went from being unhappy working in NYC as a photographer, to selling all my cameras and puting myself through flight school...you can do it too...if you want something bad enough, I'd bet nothing could stop you!
CropDusterMan 2 years ago
Thank you for your reply! Sounds like adventure, what you are telling! Actually I flew the Robinson R22 in real life, it was in USA, New Mexico, and a long time ago! :-)
thepiarno 2 years ago
There is one thing more: I realized, living in USA is much, much better than living in germany, when you want to fly something!! Simple reason: flying in germany is much more expensive than in USA! One fu...nny liter of gasoline costs about 2 us dollars!! ... and sometimes even more! .. and also because of other reasons! Unfortunately!
thepiarno 2 years ago
awesome invention buddy, i just wanted to know whether the throttle system works with fs2004 or not?? beautiful setup once again
chatsalot94 2 years ago
How about using a Thrustmaster for the Cyclic and take the return spring out for added realism? The Thrustmaster is just like a real Hughes 300.
Chopper894 2 years ago
Great setup.I would live to have something like that in my room!
motokid032 2 years ago
I am a fan of you! This is realy great man! 5+! I am dreaming about having such a thing! Exactly that`s it! Heieiei ... I wish I had the skill to build this and the place to put it somewhere! ;-D But some day ... who knows!
thepiarno 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment....had fun building it...it's really easy to make....I lent it to a friend while he's in flight school for practice.
CropDusterMan 2 years ago
A little update...
Lent this set-up to a friend who logged maybe 50 hours on it before going to flight school...he ended up hovering in about an hour...better than the average of 5-7 hours...and at $300+ an hour...saved some dough. I recently talked to test pilot
Shawn Coyle, and he said that a student can learn 68% of required skills in a simulator, the rest of course...you have to take the plunge!
CropDusterMan 2 years ago
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Nice.
Chaseqws 2 years ago
Fun project....well done!
rogerdodgeraviation 3 years ago
Good job, thats an awesome way to get it done being thrifty.
jondarrah 3 years ago
If you're looking for good cushions, check out Oregon Aero....or try Dakota Air Parts...they seel used heli parts.
CropDusterMan 3 years ago
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Nice Video. Check out TubeViews (dotnet) If you need your video exposed, It has really helped me a bunch. Be blessed!
THIS WORKS! Its amazing.. THANK YOU SO MUCH DUDE!!!!!!
Natalywer 3 years ago
Very innovative! That's great! I like it alot...LOL!
helobelow 3 years ago
very cool
Deanzsyclone 3 years ago
Anyone who needs help building one of these, drop me a line and I can help you out...
CropDusterMan 3 years ago
nice inexpensive set up that will save big $ for those students getting or training IFR.
Well done.
redstone777 3 years ago
Very nice! I was looking around for some type of plans with a proper collective lever and your setup looks sweet!
Myles
myzee42 3 years ago
Nice
shj1831 3 years ago
Nice
tiemji 3 years ago
Nice setup:)
FlightX101 3 years ago