From ~1.2 million years ago to less than 100,000 years ago, the ancestors of all people alive were from Africans which had dark skin.
As populations began to migrate, the evolutionary constraint keeping skin dark decreased proportionally to the distance North a population migrated, resulting in a range of skin tones within northern populations.
@TheTazzietiger At some point northern populations experienced positive selection for lighter skin due to the increased production of vitamin D from sunlight and the genes for darker skin disappeared from these populations.
his premise is wrong as it doesn't account for china being the most advanced and powerful civilization from the time of rome to the time of the renaissance. He is just appealing to everyone's desire to be politically correct. The real reason why the west has dominated is culture: idividualism promotes competition and free throught. Stated more bluntly: western culture is surperior. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong and just doesn't know enough about history yet to realize it!!
@PatrickEngSU Yeah, but I beg the question - superior in what sense? Most of us who grew up immersed in western culture simply can't imagine any different paradigm than the one we've known. We are assured that our society is more advanced and therefore better. But I also beg the question, why is that the wealthiest and most advanced countries have higher rates of depression and suicide than poorer nations? Compare suicide rates of Switzerland with Nicaragua for instance. What's a good benchmark?
When white people travel to other lands and kill the natives, it's justified but when an African tribe kills whites, it's terrible? Both are terrible but are white lives more valuabe than non whites? Seriously, I hate having to share DNA with some of you people.
i mean, it's simply a factual matter that zulus mercilessly slaughtered children, whereas europeans generally refrained from such deeds. after all, europeans are the ones who considered these acts abominable in the first place rather than, say, the zulus. why defend evil non-white polities?
@nactan lol how are you so offended, you're way over exagerating whats being shown. its pretty fair and isnt putting blame on anyone. The doc is about guns germs and steal. not any of ure bullshit
@nactan Not true. If you read that Monk's writings about Columbus' voyages(he was there and went with him on each one), he noted that children were not protected from murder and neither were pregnant women. The only children allowed to live were usually babies born from the rape of natives by the conquistadors. There is even a passage in the monk's book: A woman trying to save her baby from the ravenous dogs they sent out to kill everyone in a village tried to......
@nactan .....use a rope to suspend her baby over a beam over the ground to keep the dogs from killing the baby but the dogs got the baby down and ripped it into pieces and ate it.
seriously guys, you don't have to go so far to paint europeans in a bad light. why can't you show us a fair & balanced picture without subjective value judgments? we hate the "human element" when it involves picking on random groups. after all, rome conquered all of greece, remember? did that make roman civilization innately superior to hellenic culture? romans were well-organized barbarians compared to the greeks, devoid of philosophy & sophisticated arts.
@nactan that's a good point. There is little value guys in subjecting these occurances to your own moral values. This is simply the way of history and life. For whatever reason Europe developed a culture that while not "superior" it proved effective at displacing and removing other forms of culture. Take it for what it is. Diamond attempts to explain his theory on why it happened. Whether he is correct or not, we don't know.
@cavok84 Umm Most of Western culture is superior; but the "Carmercial pop" part of Western culture that the US. has given us is the down fall of Western culture...
@xxTeutonicKnightxx Too me, western culture (especially USA) is another way of saying capitalist culture. Capitalism made America the most powerful nation in the world in a relatively short period of time in the 20th cent. It's been such a potent tool, in fact, that US politicians like to use it in not only commerce but society as well. The prob with capitalism is that inequality is inherent and greed, privileged, and luck are over-pronounced. Globalism is making the world a capitalist state.
@wisestfoolalive Western culture is not capitalist culture, Capitalist, Socialist Communist all are Western Ideas... Capitalism help made the USA the most powerful nation in the world. But so does having two very weak neighbors and two huge oceans, that is soem thing MANY other Empires did not have the luxury of. Germany can easly rull this world if they had such luxury... The USA can changed its values or culture any time we want with out worrying about a strong enemy...
@wisestfoolalive And thank GOD the Europeans in the past are not like most Eurpans lazy and pussies today, with super liberal ideas and Conservative economy, because my GOD I thiks the Moors would had took most of Europe & have European slaves...
@fredjustsucks You would find the book that this documentary is based on probably very interesting. Diamond expands on all of the themes that you see in the film. It's hard to go in depth with only about 2 hrs of airtime to an audience with an implied 5th grade education. @MrBlahhumbug: if you had more of a command of history or a reading level better than the average 10 year old, I could show you in great detail exactly how stupid your argument is, but, as you are, that's impossible.
The curious truth of the 21st century is that the very violent Chinese, who are led by autocrats that outwardly pay lip service to a ruthless evolutionary ideology, are for all practical matters are reluctantly running the global economy. Whatever dominance the Europeans and Americans had is rapidly wasting away, partly due to decadence and self indulgence - but also because of geographical disunity.
You should read Paul Kennedy's book, "Rise and Fall of the Great Powers".
@rocketman10owen For centuries, Muslims of the Middle East threatened to engulf Europe. Repeated attempts were made by Arab armies to conquer parts of Europe, one as late as 1683.
The reason you see bomb craters in the Middle East is because of the invention of modern explosives. Remember Jared Diamond's "guns, germs and steel" thesis? And who was it that first came up with the use of explosives in warfare, back in the 13th century?
@rocketman10owen Not for want of trying. Are you forgetting the disasterous Goguryeo–Sui Wars? Tehir wars with the Manchu? To be fair to the Koreans, the Japanese themselves didn't have much better success prior to the 20th century.
Your worldview has been shaped almost entirely by the history of the last 100 years or so. China is a very old country, with a very long history. Technology and geography, not ethnic character or genetics, determined how that history played out over time.
@DrCruel Now I know what you mean by china invaded korea I was scratching my head when you say china doing shit to korea china and korea are tight, we are like brothers you need to get your facts straight sui is not a foreign dynasty you got the wrong people sui is a xianbei dynasty which is xionu, they are agressive like the mongolians, warmongering chinese wouldn't do there stuff to koreans, they are tight like brothers chinese love koreans they certianly love goryo ginseng
@rocketman10owen North Korea is run by a lunatic, and the Chinese government doesn't trust the regime. South Korea is far more friendly to the US - the Chinese make them very nervous.
All the Koreans I've talked to hate the Japanese, of course, but that's a fairly modern development. Similarly the antagonism between Jews and Germans don't seem to have become really awful until the mid-20th century, I'd argue for similar reasons. In a few hundred years, that situation is likely to change.
@rocketman10owen Let's put it this way. Whether or not the Chinese people are or are not predisposed to violence, or (as I assert) that Chinese are no more and no less violent than anyone else, the fact is that whosoever is running the largest nations in Asia will have an overwhelming influence in how the 21st century plays out. It doesn't matter how anyone feels about that, because it's going to happen whether we like it or not.
Let's hope we've all learned something from our past mistakes.
If you have no idea the relevance of these 3 points you should not pretend to know history. They don't call empires, empires for no reason. A lot of Turks in the Xinjiang province of China will disagree with you. Not to mention that one of the fore-front rules of the Chinese Empire was expansion and assimilation. If you read about tributary systems, you will realize that its not all "grand" as you make it up to be
china never ventured far beyond the great wall, then never whipped out mongols or manchus, the song and mongols forged an alliegence with the mongols during the expansion of the jin dynasty, while the jin was whiped out mongols went on a southward conquest and whiped out the song dynasty extablishing the yuan dynasty
same happened with the qing dynasty which was under manchu rule
vietnam isn't a good example as china hasn't ruled or colonized vietnam, while if you read histor
The Qing dynasty (had and sold slaves) the Tang Dynasty captured inslaved Koreans. Not to mention trafficing of people today in modern day China. For someone who claims to know the history of China, you know very little. Any educated person could not take you serious.
@rocketman10owen that China is the 2nd largest arms dealer in the world? production plants, arms negotiations, and loads of information would say yes. Also most political scholars, goverment policy makers, news, chinese scholars, and any person who pays attention to these things would agree.
If your talking about Koreans (read history ), if your talking about modern day trafficing between North Korea and China, just take a look at amenisty international.
@rocketman10owen I never denied Japan had inslaved Koreans? the discussion between me and temokam was in response to his belief that China has a clean history.
@rocketman10owen if the dynasties are not evidence enough, the tributary system is not enough, and the fact that Tibet was conquered not only by communist China but previous dynasties. Then there is nothing to talk about, because you have never taken the time to read about Chinese history, which is not only insulting to this conversation but to China itself. Stop painting a picture to your liking and start dealing with facts.
@MrBlahhumbug tyhe tributary system is different from colonization
you are like comparing apples to orange
and if you are talking tibet
the whole of american was taken from the natives, while europeans commited the biggest genocide in history whipping out races of native indian, there were 100million native indians living in america before columbus but was reduced to hundreds of thousands
at least the chinese didn't try to whip out the tibetans
while throughout much of the history of china it's border was confined to within the great walls,
there were so many instances where it could conquer neibouring nations, like korea, japan, thailand, vietnam, india and mongolia. But it didn't and were invaded and conquered by the mongolians manchurians and the british
@rocketman10owen When China was internally stable, its forces were frequently directed at outside regimes. Indeed - the very existence of the Chinese Empire itself was as a result of the successful conquest and assimilation of the nations of continental Asia into a single state (see "Romance of the Three kingdoms" for details). The problem for China was that this nation, being made up of a number of conquered cultures and peoples, was frequently riven by internal dissent and civil war.
@rocketman10owen That isn't the point, is it. The point is that, throughout most of China's history, they were very much a powerful and belligerant country. If they spared any of their neighbors for any length of time, it was more due to their own internal problems than from any cultural commitment to passivity.
If Jared Diamond's thesis has any merit, it's absurd to talk about one culture being more belligerent than another. Given the right opportunity, any culture will be imperialistic.
there is a difference between imperialistic and warmongering
there are many chances that china would colonize south asian, middle east and africa on zheng he's many voyages, but rather than conquer they decide to trade
some people would like to plunder and steal while other like to enjoy the fruits of their labour
just because some cultures are warmongering and colonist doesn't mean all cultures are
@rocketman10owen The problem with your thesis is that it doesn't reflect reality. The national entity known as China is the result of conquest and assimilation. The Chinese have frequently attacked, colonized and conquered their neighbors throughout their long national history - especially when they weren't fighting amongst themselves.
The Chinese are no more cultural pacifists than any other arbitrary set of simians.Stop being so ethnocentric and go read some history books.
@rocketman10owen Pardon. Historical facts are not dependant on whether or not the person bringing them up "cleans up their act", let alone whether or not a culture such a person is arbitrarily assumed to be associated with does so.
Again I implore you not to be so ethnocentric. You cannot make fallacious suppositions and expect not to be challenged on them. Taking an aggressive stance in the face of your own errors will not avail you.
@rocketman10owen Pardon. China was not the most aggressive state in history, nor did I say it was. Likewise, I would say that Jared Diamond's thesis is correct - that is, the reason why China was more aggressive than some states and less agressive than others was due primarily to geography and to regional conditions in East Asia. For example, it is hard to believe Japan would have developed as it did if there had been a land bridge between the Japanese archipeligo and the Chinese mainland.
@rocketman10owen Japan was aggressive in Asia during two prominent periods in its history. The first was after the Sengoku Jedai, when Hideyoshi was looking for a means to get rid of the more aggressive samurai. In this first instance, the Koreans were more than a match for them. The second case was during the first half of the 20th century, when Japan had an overwhelming technologial advantage over China and a substantial advantage over the Russian Empire.
As a matter of fact the Chinese Empire is due to a number of mainland nations being "wiped off the face of the map" - being incorporated by the most ruthless force into an imperial superstate. Indeed, those of China's neighbors who survived - Korea, Vietnam, Japan - did so by developing a culture that prized martial prowess.
There was the Wu, Shu and Wei states. There was the Min and the Chu nations as well. Where did they run off to, while the Han Chinese were being "peaceful"?
Dencendent of Min and Chu Are the people speaking min nan and Xiang
And they were assimilated into the han
The han was a brief period 2000 years ago and decendents of min and chu nations still proud to call them south han is because it was a peroid of great rule
while having no understanding the west call china "china" refering the the Qin dynasty which was tyrannical
that is why chinese people don't call themself the Qin people
did you know that european is you group them as a civilization are the only civilication that colonized every continent on the earth, which no other civilization has ever done
did you know that england was the largest drug exporter in the 19th century, and that drug was opium
something that you wouldn't know if you haven't read history
@rocketman10owen I can't say many of my Armenian ancestors were involved with colonialism, except perhaps on the receiving end. But what has any of that to do with the very real imperial history of China, which you still have seen fit to deny?
@rocketman10owen Empathy has nothing to do with it. You are claiming that China is and has always been a peaceful nation, and imply that this is characteristic of the Chinese "race". I am telling you that your assertion is nonsense - the empirical historical evidence disproves it.
What of Ying Zheng and the Qin dynasty? What of the Romance of the Three Kings era? The Ten Kingdoms era? The repeated conquests of Indochina and Korea?
Please don't call me ignorant for telling the truth.
@DrCruel I think you are confusing peaceful with passive
and there is a difference between tyranny, civil war and war of aggression
almost all nations expeerience civil war
so are you calling the founding fathers of the united states agressors, the french revolution whre many lost their hewhat about how the english oppressed the scotlish not to mention the irish
alot of the kingdoms in the ten kingdoms era were foreign
@rocketman10owen Not that this is pertient, but yes. The founding fathers of the US were not only slave-holding hypocrites, but many of them were self-serving crooks. Are you forgetting how the federal government used tax revenues to pay for mercenaries, that were then used to put down riots from colonists who balked at their high taxes after the war of rebellion? To say nothing of what the Americans did to the natives.
@rocketman10owen You do realize talking to rocketman10owen, is no different from then trying to train an Afghan hound. Afghan hound: most dogs are smart, but this is known to be the least intelligent as it is the slowest to pick up new ideas and make associations.
He will never admit to being wrong nor will he ever change his view on the subject, because he is to extent religiously stuck on the view that China has a clean history (not one full of slavery and expansionism). Waste of time.
Resorting to personal attacks only shows the weakness of your arguement
That said I would think that an Afghan hound would be more intelligent than you, at least they would know what is true or false, like why did the US attack afghanistan or iraq when there is no bin ladin or wmd.
If you want to convince someone at least make strong arguements. If you make weak or false arguement it will only make you seam feeble minded.
@MrBlahhumbug oppression or expansionism and then use the war of 1812 as an arguement of how the Americans has suppressed the Canadian. Or site the american revolution as american agression against the english.
You are not convincing anyone if all you say is that China committed slavery or is expansionist over and over again without strong support.
Any elementary student are taught to support their statements with strong arguements unless you are homeschooled
@MrBlahhumbug your arguement for chinese slavery or expansionism is childishly weak
As China is more of an introverted than extroverted society, The problem with China is that it treats outsiders way better than it's own people and I would use Corruption, wealth disparity (poverty) and pollution as my arguement.
Corruption is formost problem in historical China, more people die at the hand of chinese and dynasties fall because of corruption than anything else.
@MrBlahhumbug of famine and then I woould back it up with the great leap forward and yellow turbin rebellion
but then I would be making your arguement
But do you even know how childish you look like when you are trying to make intellectual arguement and then resort to personal attack and name calling
why don't you go back to kindergarten, I think you just pooped in your diapers
@DrCruel stability but the song empire denied yuefei's request to defeat the jin which lead to the downfall of norhern song and left half of the country into the hand of the jins
or when general wu sangui let the manchu's through the great wall without giving a fight and that lead to the fall of the ming dynasty
or when the british and french burned and looted the summer palace, alot chinese national treasure in the royal british meseum was stolen back then
@rocketman10owen But of course China was at least as aggressive as "the West". The problem being that this aggression was often directed inward rather than outward. The same could be said for the Roman Empire - an exceptionally aggressive state, which because of geography and a lack of modern technology eventually reached a maximum size, wherein its aggression was turned inward to civil wars and social upheaval.
You seem to have entirely missed what Jared Diamond's thesis is all about.
@rocketman10owen Strangely, the Chinese communist state, hypocritical as it is, happens to be the only entity preventing the global economy from collapsing into a massive depression. The Maoist PRC literally is propping up Western capitalism, moreso than they ever did during the era of European colonialism. Although I'd say henrty Kissinger should be lauded as much as Deng Xiao Ping.
To destroy the West the PRC need not fire a single bullet. All they would have to do is stop lending us money.
@rocketman10owen Maybe so, but they are not. Most American have become accustomed to entitlements paid for by money borrowed from hard working Chinese and Indians.
But this again has nothing to do with the very violent history of China.
Mind, one reason why China was so weak in the face of European colonialism was because of their own massive, calcified, kleptocratic bureaucracy. Mao, murderous as he was, helped to modernize China by sweeping them away. We've yet to learn our lesson.
@rocketman10owen Actually no, it didn't. I pointed out several instances where it didn't. Mind, the modern PRC isn't all that peaceful either - ask the Vietnamese and the Tibetans.
Perhaps you're talking about the Republic of China. They have had a rather peaceful history and, given that their officials are elected by popular vote, they do have a better claim to being the actual, legitimate government of China.
@DrCruel against humanity in world war 2 or even human history
30+million chinese were killed by the japanese majority civilian
nanjing was sacked without any resistence, people just lined up in lines to be massacred
all totally ignored by the west
and western media were even dumbfounded by why chinese has such ill feeling and protest why the japanese prime minister visited the shrine occupied by class A war criminal
while even the lowest of nazi criminal was prosecuted, emperor hirohito
and General Ishii, which pioneered human experimentation, by infecting chinese with biological and chemical weapons, performed vivisection with anesthatics and other grueling emperiment
to help japan develope their own weapon of mass destruction was aqquited of all charges
and were allowed to conduct bioweapon research in the United States post WW2
@andrben u obviously need to watch the whole documentary not just one of the videos before u attempt to share ur low intellect opinion with the rest of us... u fucking troll
@andrben jewish is a culture bro, you can still be white and jewish. Ive seen arabic jews and white(eg green eyes and blonde hair) jewish people, granted most of them(at least in america) look like Jared. Never seen a black or asian jew, but that doesnt mean they dont exists(probably more rare than a token black man)
@chillhood, I think what you are implying is incorrect. If you view the entire series, it goes out of its way to be balanced. You can't parse a single shot of a crying European baby in a reenactment scene from a 3 hour documentary and extrapolate that somehow the presentation is biased or trying to manipulate the viewers sympathies. In clip "17 of 18" Diamond visits an African hospital where there are many shots of REAL children sick with malaria, who are native Africans and who are NOT actors.
@codymr1974 I dont see how the hospital scenes relate to recreations in the documentary being a bit strangely arranged. If you look at the scenes were the spaniards massacre the incas, they seem to be gorified slightly. The music in the background is grandious battle scene music, whereas in this scene where the affricans kill the europeans the music is more dark an ominous. In the inca scene we are told more about the how the spanish felt..
@iosuVakerizzo .... and we see a man on a horse pretending to swordfight while telling us about the battle in a tone that sounds as if it was a great adventure in his eyes. It all seems really stange and although he seems to feel a bit sorry for the incas, it seems that he feels more sympathetic towards the spanish murderers.
In the African scene we see no sympathy towards the agressors like we did in the previous scene, all the sympathy is with the white man.
@iosuVakerizzo I'm sorry but if you look closely at the mise-en-scene, editing, music choice, the construction of the voice over, the pace of the scene, what they chose to show and how they showed it, it becomes really clear that the person making the film was biased when making this even if he is unaware of it. It will be very clear to anyone used to film deconstruction like myself.
However this doesn't mean that Jared Diamond is biased, he is obviously not, but he didn't direct those scenes.
Are you mentally retarded? The entire point of this documentary, and the book it's based off of is to show that the reason the whites became the dominant race on earth has NOTHING to do with super intellect, so are you really trying to suggest this is bias in favor of whites? I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is the only part of the documentary you've seen, because if you've seen all the previous parts you would have to be a complete retard.
@fredjustsucks I do not know what he said but I think Guns, Germs and Steel gives a lack of credit to the Europeans for there development & accomplishments like if it was all an accident. Also the lack of credit to China or Persia. How do you explain other places that have similar advantages of that of Europe or Asia but yet did not developed as well or not at all? Example: How did Bill Gates get on top when IBM has all the money & resource? Guns, Germs and Steel has some truth but not 100%
@fredjustsucks How do you explain the fact that German tribes that lived in the wood at this time developed Pattern welded steels & very sophisticated steel alloys at 700BC or 800BC were the Greeks & Persians did not! But yet Greece and Persia had more tools and resource to work with! Guns, Germs and Steel did not say anything about this...
@chillhood all GGS dude, or their newest equivalents, which operate out of the meme pool. overall, this documentary is a little obnoxious whether that was meant to deprecate europeans or not. (i'm not white and i'm a liberal)
What a load of rubbish. Voortrekkers were simply farmers leaving growing English dominance in the Cape. The Voortrekkers entered Zululand looking for piece, and in fact had negotiated a peace treaty with Dingane (Zulu king). However, Dingane had stabbed them in the back, instead of signing the treaty, he had accused Retief and his disarmed men of "witchcraft" and had them all killed, along with surrounding settlements. The Voortrekkers then retaliated with the amazing battle of Blood river.
@Romeowasbleeding1 alas, one will always defend their ancestry, no matter how wrong they were. they were INVADERS, and persisted even when the king of the land spoke his word no.
Funny, since Dingana said "yes" to them, and in return for them being allowed to stay, the voortrekkers had to wrestle Dingane's stolen cattle back from an enemy of his. This the Voortekkers did, and it was after that Dingane betrayed them.
Anyway, they were not wrong at all, in that time, everyone was invading everyone. How on earth do you think the Zulu's got their Kingdom? Through a democratic vote? You can't judge those times from a modern perspective.
C'mon Diamond. The Zulus "built," "organized," "authored," "established", and "developed" while the Europeans "inhereted", "stole", "adapted", and "borrowed". No integrity. When he says "Guns, Germs, and Steel won" he sets up this dichotomy that the Zulu's were using some other system. If Europeans were using luck and the Zulu's weren't, then what were they using? He'd have you believe raw ingenuity. Eastern Africa had been in contact with the SAME fertile cresent from the 7th century.
So, now that the Africans and Native Americans have been killed out by disease and have built up immunities, are they just plain lucky like the Europeans were? Or is it different for them? Maybe they earned their immunity, while the Europeans just sumbled onto it, like the rest of their civilization. Diamond is putting out more UCLA crap. He wants to hate his people for "what they did", but be the guy pointing it out so he doesn't have to be branded as whitey.
@DeportAnchorBabies lol that dude was insulting black people saying they look like gorillas... you are just saying something that might be a fact.. cro magnons or europeans might have evolved from neanderthals
Mongols also slaughtered & spread destruction across an entire continent guess Asiatics are harsh too. There were many other races & protohumans in Africa who bit the dust. Gee wonder who killed them off. Could it have been duh black man?
Then the europeans dug up a real good one.........."this land was promised to us by god, oh about 3000 yrs. ago or so......yeah, we got it on paper. Right here. And to show you how much we appreciate you guys taking care of it until now; were willing to let you guys live on half of it." Deal?
Jared Diamond smashed racism and all the white superiority crap. Tell the Confederate slime rebels that are in graves to twist and turn because their white superior attitudes are crushed. So all you scum bag racists get a banjo and fly your idiot rebel flag ( I burned one last night) and go go ahead and wish that the "South shall Rise again"--because that isn't going to happen---hahah!
"White Gods", my god, Ooloosoon, you're more stupid than I thought! You sit here preaching the superiority of your people, and you your self are an ignorant, bigoted, mentally deficient dumbshit. "teh white god men built all teh mesoamerican civilisation because the indians themselves said so!". God you're stupid, LOL! I guess I don't exist then since I am an "Indian" and have the intelligence to build such a civilization. It sucks being ethereal; which is what I am apparently.
Voortrekker rifles. it was the same in Canada. native or white, if you had no weapons in the bush you were crazy! you wouldnt last long. and you never travelled alone! only the very smart and brave went on the land alone.
@RadicalFiction Guns created by whites, Drugs grown and cultivated and transported into Black neighborhoods by whites and your government agents like Ollie North during Iran/Contra, Meth addiction is a white suburban phenomenon. Whites created pornography and bestiality, and homosexuality, Lies are told so often they are called White Lies. etc.
@ResearchKnowledge123 ~ Whites created pornography and bestiality, and homosexuality??? If you open your eyes you will find them in most civilizations.
God I hate racist idiots like you. Your first statement is sadly true buts its a class issue not a black white issue.
But negroes invented AIDs by fornicating with monkeys. How many corrupt power hungry regimes in post colonial Africa? How many genocides wars corruption? General backward depravity that you wankers dont have the guts to take responsibility for. Armies of 10yr old soldiers.
@gunninlinguist You need to make sure that you stay in school until you receive a Ph. d you are obviously a typical undereducated and miseducated which equls dumb white person.
Jesus, apparently like none of you have watched this video.
The reason white people/Europeans have such a violent history of conquering and subjugation of native peoples is they are the only group of people historically able to do so on a global scale.derp
@neighborhoodgasman The Chinese are entirely capable, yet their culture has so far not allowed them to. They don't even have a base set up outside Mainland China. Yet the US has 700 bases worldwide. The whitemans culture is one of war, and conquest, and drive for power. Whites covet expansion and war and power unlike other cultures. Whites are only 10% of the worlds population. Yet they are the only ones that desire to rule the world.
Bullshit what about the Mongols & the Turks. The tyranny of the Aztecs against heighbouring peoples. Humankinds history is built on War.The only reason blacks didn't conquer other people was not bc they were merciful or noble but bc they had no power.
@ResearchKnowledge123 Whites were not 10% of the worlds population in the 16th century, they were actuallly quite larger then that. Do not get (todays) population mixed with historical populations. There are more people in China today, then in the 16th century. You are forgetting "ResearchKnowledge" that China has in the past attempted to expand. If you know anything about Chinas history.
Each Dynasty in China's history has attempted to expand or collect tribute.
@neighborhoodgasman NO! They are the only people that had the desire to do so. No other people has ever attempted to conquer the world. China could easily have accomplished what whites did if they had the desire. Whites have a violent history because violence is something whites value culturally. Violence permeates every aspect of the culture. From entertainment, to religion, to sport, even cartoons and video games for children.
@neighborhoodgasman , that is totally rubish im affraid , the chinese civilisation which was much more advanced in term of weapons , were also able to dominate and colonise the rest of the word but they didnt , its a fact europeans have the exclusivity in violence and destruction within the human kind , no other people can claim this distinction
@temokam it is not total rubish. Claiming that China as a civilization did not dominate or do harsh acts of violence is a load of crock and you know it. The tributary system of China enforced strict punishment to unlawful Kingdoms to to the might of China. Yaun Dynasty, which was a by product of Hun Empire of Gengis Khan commited tons of atrocities. Gengis Khans empire was one the largest Empires in History and was not spread by "peaceful" means. Do not try to paint a fake picture of China.
gengis khan only controlled a portion of , asia , but still you do not have any point by saying that you were the only one commiting attrocities because you were the only one able to , at the end of the day , the chinese never colonised foreign land , they never comited any genocide , and the period you are describing are around 12 th century , whereas , european hegemony is much more recent , from 18th century until now , we still see today , irak , afghanistan, etc ,
@temokam Genghis Khan did commit Genocides and historical evidence of it is everywhere. Yuan Dynasty was the result of Genghis Khan cause it was formed by his son Kabuli Khan. The Chinese were never expanding because the "Emperor and followers were Xenophobic. However, they conquered by "tribute systems". And, don't tell me you think China didn't have slaves or when they did go to war they didn't commit mass killings. The reality is Europeans had better technology in the 18th century
at the end of the day , no one will be able with strong arguments , to take away , the violent nature inherent to the white race , i mean if there is a race on earth celebrate in hell , if we could make a accountability of the most murderous race on earth the white race would stand out by far and that's a fact , today , in modern times , only the white people colonised and destroyed foreign cultures , this hegemonic behaviour still continue through imperialism and neocolonialism
@temokam new you were a racist. This is the part where i stop having a conversation with you, because logic reason and intellegence is something you lack. Conversation is pointless.
@temokam on an ending note: Take a look at Chinas involvement in Darfur (which no one can argue isn't a Genocide) or Chinas involvement in Tibet, and Mynamar.
If you think China has clean hands your an idiot, and need to go back to school. For you ignorance must be bliss.
China is doing business in Darfur without interfering with the internal politic , unlike the USA , that backed half of the worse dictatorships the world ever known , look at south america , Africa , all those dictators are backed by the USA , the Chinese at least are not hypocrite you know they are here for interest , but the united shits of america , manipulates the media pretending to interfere for humanitarian reason , lol laughable , and china doesn't have military bases around the world
@MrBlahhumbug WHY is THAT THE ONLY PEOPLES POSSESSING THE NUCLEAR POWER TO HAVE USED IT ON UNARMED CIVILIANS ARE THE AMERICANS(whites) , MANY COUNTRIES HAD THE BOMB AT THE TIME BUT NO ONE EVER USED IT LIKE THE UNITED SHITS OF AMERICAS DID .....TWICE WTF ?? ON UNARMED CIVILIANS?? , NOW HOW COMES WE WANT TO FORBID IRAN TO POSSES IT , WHILE WE HAVE A COUNTRY ATTACKING OTHERS COUNTRIES SUCH AS IRAQ WITH 1 MILLIONS CIVILIANS CASUALTIES DEATH , WITHOUT THE AGREEMENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY ?
AMERIKKKA IS INDEFEASIBLE , THE MOST POWERFUL WHITES NATIONS , IS ALSO THE MOST BRUTAL , BLOODTHIRSTY , SHAMELESS NATIONS ON EARTH , AMERICA IMPERIALISM TODAY NOT EVEN YESTERDAY IS DESTROYING THE LIFE OF MANY HUMANS IN THIS PLANET SIMPLY FOR YOU TO ENJOY MCDONNALDS AND TO DIE BECAUSE YOU EAT TWICE MORE THAN THE AVERAGE HUMAN AND DIE OF OBESITY , AMERICA IS THE MODEL OF WHAT HUMAN SHOULD AVOID TO BECOME GREEDINESS , ARROGANCE AND MATERIALISM MAKES YOU LOSE YOUR HUMANITY A BIT MORE EVERYDAY
@MrBlahhumbug , IM ONLY INTERRESTED IN TRUTH , AND THE TRUTH IS YOU WERE WRONG SAYING THAT THE ONLY REASON EUROPEANS DOMINATED OTHERS COUNTRIES WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONLY ONE TO BE ABLE TO WHICH IS WRONG SINCE THE CHINESE WERE EVEN THE FIRST TO DISCOVER AFRICA AND TRADED WITH THEM FOR DECADES WITHOUT ENSLAVING THEM OR ETHNIC CLEANSING THEM , BUT STILL I`M NOT SAYING THAT ALL THE WESTERNS PEOPLES ARE WRONG I AM SAYING THAT THEIR POLICIES ARE WRONG
@neighborhoodgasman yeah i can't nececarilly blame them for it i'm sure if my people (well i'm canadian but of chinese descent) were more adventurous during the ming dynasty and explored into north america it could have been likely that my people will be getting a lot of slack for being evil and war mongering
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strange how it was actually asians that discovered gun, germs, and steel before europeans.
but whatever, europeans said columbus discovered america too.
it's really culture. asians are actually more superior but europeans are more violent because of their culture hence they wanted to conquer many parts of the world.
Asians discovered gun powder. Europeans made it useful and made guns.
Europeans aren't conflict-model oriented. Their model is based around scarcity/abundance - that's where they are in their game...thru that they are able to 'conquer'. Not b/c they are conflict oriented unlike some other groups who are and have conquered nothing.
European civilisation is very conflict-oriented, not necessarily in the sense of mowing people down, but in its elevation of domination over cohesion. All cultures have a capacity for conflict, but few have excelled in it even among themselves with such destructive zeal (60m Europeans dead at each other's hands in the last century alone). Europeans aren't intrinsically evil, but they're no angels.
All Diamond postulates is that the people who lived in Europe succeeded and expanded vs those who lived on other continents. Race, color, religion, etc has no part of the theory. If blacks had populated Europe rather than whites, then it would have been black people conquering the world.
***IQ differences in black people are a result of today's culture.
Also, IQ is a poor measure of intelligence and success. **
Actually, if you read the research you will see that culture does not explain group differences between East Asians, Europeans, Ashkenazi Jews & other groups (see (2009). Whole-brain size and general mental ability: A review. International Journal of Neuroscience, 119, 691-731, or 30 Year Review. June 2005 issue of Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, Vol. 11, )
How's that when people from Europe simply migrated from Africa, how couldn't they have survived in Europe. It's all about adapting. Learning the land over a period of time, what to eat, what's bad, so on, so forth, it's not rocket science. You don't use any facts.
All over the world people have adapted to survive in harsher climates than whites and blacks. There are always people who will survive even the most impossible climates, race has nothing to do with it.
From ~1.2 million years ago to less than 100,000 years ago, the ancestors of all people alive were from Africans which had dark skin.
As populations began to migrate, the evolutionary constraint keeping skin dark decreased proportionally to the distance North a population migrated, resulting in a range of skin tones within northern populations.
TheTazzietiger 3 days ago
@TheTazzietiger At some point northern populations experienced positive selection for lighter skin due to the increased production of vitamin D from sunlight and the genes for darker skin disappeared from these populations.
TheTazzietiger 3 days ago
remember when people first got to europe they where not white at all ..
TheTazzietiger 3 days ago
his premise is wrong as it doesn't account for china being the most advanced and powerful civilization from the time of rome to the time of the renaissance. He is just appealing to everyone's desire to be politically correct. The real reason why the west has dominated is culture: idividualism promotes competition and free throught. Stated more bluntly: western culture is surperior. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong and just doesn't know enough about history yet to realize it!!
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@PatrickEngSU Yeah, but I beg the question - superior in what sense? Most of us who grew up immersed in western culture simply can't imagine any different paradigm than the one we've known. We are assured that our society is more advanced and therefore better. But I also beg the question, why is that the wealthiest and most advanced countries have higher rates of depression and suicide than poorer nations? Compare suicide rates of Switzerland with Nicaragua for instance. What's a good benchmark?
wisestfoolalive 1 month ago
6:10 "native african natives" very poorly worded
TheEpicLazor 1 month ago
@TheEpicLazor I heard "native african neighbors".
NinjaTom2005 1 month ago
When white people travel to other lands and kill the natives, it's justified but when an African tribe kills whites, it's terrible? Both are terrible but are white lives more valuabe than non whites? Seriously, I hate having to share DNA with some of you people.
HybridD91 4 months ago
um shaka
Tupacexpert 4 months ago
i mean, it's simply a factual matter that zulus mercilessly slaughtered children, whereas europeans generally refrained from such deeds. after all, europeans are the ones who considered these acts abominable in the first place rather than, say, the zulus. why defend evil non-white polities?
nactan 4 months ago
@nactan lol how are you so offended, you're way over exagerating whats being shown. its pretty fair and isnt putting blame on anyone. The doc is about guns germs and steal. not any of ure bullshit
walkertexasranger33 4 months ago
@nactan Not true. If you read that Monk's writings about Columbus' voyages(he was there and went with him on each one), he noted that children were not protected from murder and neither were pregnant women. The only children allowed to live were usually babies born from the rape of natives by the conquistadors. There is even a passage in the monk's book: A woman trying to save her baby from the ravenous dogs they sent out to kill everyone in a village tried to......
vaibanez17 3 months ago
@nactan .....use a rope to suspend her baby over a beam over the ground to keep the dogs from killing the baby but the dogs got the baby down and ripped it into pieces and ate it.
vaibanez17 3 months ago
seriously guys, you don't have to go so far to paint europeans in a bad light. why can't you show us a fair & balanced picture without subjective value judgments? we hate the "human element" when it involves picking on random groups. after all, rome conquered all of greece, remember? did that make roman civilization innately superior to hellenic culture? romans were well-organized barbarians compared to the greeks, devoid of philosophy & sophisticated arts.
nactan 4 months ago
@nactan that's a good point. There is little value guys in subjecting these occurances to your own moral values. This is simply the way of history and life. For whatever reason Europe developed a culture that while not "superior" it proved effective at displacing and removing other forms of culture. Take it for what it is. Diamond attempts to explain his theory on why it happened. Whether he is correct or not, we don't know.
cavok84 2 months ago
@cavok84 Umm Most of Western culture is superior; but the "Carmercial pop" part of Western culture that the US. has given us is the down fall of Western culture...
xxTeutonicKnightxx 2 months ago
@xxTeutonicKnightxx Too me, western culture (especially USA) is another way of saying capitalist culture. Capitalism made America the most powerful nation in the world in a relatively short period of time in the 20th cent. It's been such a potent tool, in fact, that US politicians like to use it in not only commerce but society as well. The prob with capitalism is that inequality is inherent and greed, privileged, and luck are over-pronounced. Globalism is making the world a capitalist state.
wisestfoolalive 1 month ago
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@wisestfoolalive Western culture is not capitalist culture, Capitalist, Socialist Communist all are Western Ideas... Capitalism help made the USA the most powerful nation in the world. But so does having two very weak neighbors and two huge oceans, that is soem thing MANY other Empires did not have the luxury of. Germany can easly rull this world if they had such luxury... The USA can changed its values or culture any time we want with out worrying about a strong enemy...
xxTeutonicKnightxx 3 weeks ago
@wisestfoolalive The thing is European Empires earn their bones, and every one is trying to say they did not.
xxTeutonicKnightxx 3 weeks ago
@wisestfoolalive And thank GOD the Europeans in the past are not like most Eurpans lazy and pussies today, with super liberal ideas and Conservative economy, because my GOD I thiks the Moors would had took most of Europe & have European slaves...
xxTeutonicKnightxx 3 weeks ago
@fredjustsucks You would find the book that this documentary is based on probably very interesting. Diamond expands on all of the themes that you see in the film. It's hard to go in depth with only about 2 hrs of airtime to an audience with an implied 5th grade education. @MrBlahhumbug: if you had more of a command of history or a reading level better than the average 10 year old, I could show you in great detail exactly how stupid your argument is, but, as you are, that's impossible.
mweens 5 months ago
those white-cracker Boers are so racist looking !
RimlandThesis 6 months ago
The curious truth of the 21st century is that the very violent Chinese, who are led by autocrats that outwardly pay lip service to a ruthless evolutionary ideology, are for all practical matters are reluctantly running the global economy. Whatever dominance the Europeans and Americans had is rapidly wasting away, partly due to decadence and self indulgence - but also because of geographical disunity.
You should read Paul Kennedy's book, "Rise and Fall of the Great Powers".
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel
however violent chinese are
nothing compare to eurpean and American
they have literally blowned middle east to bits
that is why you see rubbles and bomb craters when you see picture of the middle east
I am still recovering to shock and awe
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen For centuries, Muslims of the Middle East threatened to engulf Europe. Repeated attempts were made by Arab armies to conquer parts of Europe, one as late as 1683.
The reason you see bomb craters in the Middle East is because of the invention of modern explosives. Remember Jared Diamond's "guns, germs and steel" thesis? And who was it that first came up with the use of explosives in warfare, back in the 13th century?
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel Can't Jews Christian and muslim be friends
they are all religion of abraham
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@DrCruel china never colonized or ruled korea, while korea was colonized and ruled by the japanese
while ming china has sent troops to help korea defend against japan
have you ever talked to any korean or korean historical professorsad was herolded by the french
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Not for want of trying. Are you forgetting the disasterous Goguryeo–Sui Wars? Tehir wars with the Manchu? To be fair to the Koreans, the Japanese themselves didn't have much better success prior to the 20th century.
Your worldview has been shaped almost entirely by the history of the last 100 years or so. China is a very old country, with a very long history. Technology and geography, not ethnic character or genetics, determined how that history played out over time.
DrCruel 7 months ago
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen North Korea is run by a lunatic, and the Chinese government doesn't trust the regime. South Korea is far more friendly to the US - the Chinese make them very nervous.
All the Koreans I've talked to hate the Japanese, of course, but that's a fairly modern development. Similarly the antagonism between Jews and Germans don't seem to have become really awful until the mid-20th century, I'd argue for similar reasons. In a few hundred years, that situation is likely to change.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel That I agree with you
but it is not like american don't have their share of lunatic regimes
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Let's put it this way. Whether or not the Chinese people are or are not predisposed to violence, or (as I assert) that Chinese are no more and no less violent than anyone else, the fact is that whosoever is running the largest nations in Asia will have an overwhelming influence in how the 21st century plays out. It doesn't matter how anyone feels about that, because it's going to happen whether we like it or not.
Let's hope we've all learned something from our past mistakes.
DrCruel 7 months ago
I will give you some hints before you reply:
1.Xiongnu
2.Vietnam
3. Kushan Empire
If you have no idea the relevance of these 3 points you should not pretend to know history. They don't call empires, empires for no reason. A lot of Turks in the Xinjiang province of China will disagree with you. Not to mention that one of the fore-front rules of the Chinese Empire was expansion and assimilation. If you read about tributary systems, you will realize that its not all "grand" as you make it up to be
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug
china never ventured far beyond the great wall, then never whipped out mongols or manchus, the song and mongols forged an alliegence with the mongols during the expansion of the jin dynasty, while the jin was whiped out mongols went on a southward conquest and whiped out the song dynasty extablishing the yuan dynasty
same happened with the qing dynasty which was under manchu rule
vietnam isn't a good example as china hasn't ruled or colonized vietnam, while if you read histor
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug history boods you would find that vietnam was colonized by the french
so why did the chinese don't colonize their neibours
while the french went half way around the world to colonize vietnam
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
The Qing dynasty (had and sold slaves) the Tang Dynasty captured inslaved Koreans. Not to mention trafficing of people today in modern day China. For someone who claims to know the history of China, you know very little. Any educated person could not take you serious.
2nd largest Arms dealer in the world is "China"
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug any proof of that
rocketman10owen 8 months ago
@rocketman10owen that China is the 2nd largest arms dealer in the world? production plants, arms negotiations, and loads of information would say yes. Also most political scholars, goverment policy makers, news, chinese scholars, and any person who pays attention to these things would agree.
If your talking about Koreans (read history ), if your talking about modern day trafficing between North Korea and China, just take a look at amenisty international.
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug china might be the 3rd largest arms dealer
since america and russia are first and second
second it was the japanese that enslave the koreans
ever herd for comfort women
that is why koreans hate japanese soo much
rocketman10owen 8 months ago
@rocketman10owen I never denied Japan had inslaved Koreans? the discussion between me and temokam was in response to his belief that China has a clean history.
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug imperial china, except for mongolian hasn't have much colonization
they had made alliances rather than colonizing other countries
while european countries were colonizing china were imposing sea ban
imperial china were the richest nation in the world with vast land and population
they had no interest in colonization as they had enough problem with corruption, famine and rebellion
imperial china and korea had great relationship in much of histories and were allies against japan
rocketman10owen 8 months ago
@rocketman10owen if the dynasties are not evidence enough, the tributary system is not enough, and the fact that Tibet was conquered not only by communist China but previous dynasties. Then there is nothing to talk about, because you have never taken the time to read about Chinese history, which is not only insulting to this conversation but to China itself. Stop painting a picture to your liking and start dealing with facts.
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug tyhe tributary system is different from colonization
you are like comparing apples to orange
and if you are talking tibet
the whole of american was taken from the natives, while europeans commited the biggest genocide in history whipping out races of native indian, there were 100million native indians living in america before columbus but was reduced to hundreds of thousands
at least the chinese didn't try to whip out the tibetans
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug
looks like someone havent been reading history
while throughout much of the history of china it's border was confined to within the great walls,
there were so many instances where it could conquer neibouring nations, like korea, japan, thailand, vietnam, india and mongolia. But it didn't and were invaded and conquered by the mongolians manchurians and the british
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen When China was internally stable, its forces were frequently directed at outside regimes. Indeed - the very existence of the Chinese Empire itself was as a result of the successful conquest and assimilation of the nations of continental Asia into a single state (see "Romance of the Three kingdoms" for details). The problem for China was that this nation, being made up of a number of conquered cultures and peoples, was frequently riven by internal dissent and civil war.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel isn't that a problem with all nations
in britain the conflict with irish, scottish and english
spain, catalan spanish basque
us, it is a meltingpot, with muslim, natives etc
japan, ainu and japanese
name me a culture whrere it isn't made up of conqured cultures
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen That isn't the point, is it. The point is that, throughout most of China's history, they were very much a powerful and belligerant country. If they spared any of their neighbors for any length of time, it was more due to their own internal problems than from any cultural commitment to passivity.
If Jared Diamond's thesis has any merit, it's absurd to talk about one culture being more belligerent than another. Given the right opportunity, any culture will be imperialistic.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel
there is a difference between imperialistic and warmongering
there are many chances that china would colonize south asian, middle east and africa on zheng he's many voyages, but rather than conquer they decide to trade
some people would like to plunder and steal while other like to enjoy the fruits of their labour
just because some cultures are warmongering and colonist doesn't mean all cultures are
some culture are pacifist
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen The problem with your thesis is that it doesn't reflect reality. The national entity known as China is the result of conquest and assimilation. The Chinese have frequently attacked, colonized and conquered their neighbors throughout their long national history - especially when they weren't fighting amongst themselves.
The Chinese are no more cultural pacifists than any other arbitrary set of simians.Stop being so ethnocentric and go read some history books.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel conquest and assimilation are two different things before attacking my idea get your point straight
Just saying China frequently attacked and conqured their neighbors doesn't make it true
Ill give you an example why the west is more aggressive than china
has china ever attacked or colonized a western country, has the west ever attacked and colonized china
The west has colonized, attacked and pillaged every continent around the world
that is why when you ask people around the
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@DrCruel world they have ill feeling towards the west
calling out other people while you are the main player in committing such offences
maybe the west should clean up their act before blaming other people
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Pardon. Historical facts are not dependant on whether or not the person bringing them up "cleans up their act", let alone whether or not a culture such a person is arbitrarily assumed to be associated with does so.
Again I implore you not to be so ethnocentric. You cannot make fallacious suppositions and expect not to be challenged on them. Taking an aggressive stance in the face of your own errors will not avail you.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel but facts are the facts
and the truth is the truth rather you ignore it or not
ignoring the facts to support your arguement that china is the most aggressive empire in history is even more ethnocentric
repeating a statement over and over again doesn't make it true
resorting to rhetoric rather than supporting your arguement with facts doesn't give you any credibility
if you have been reading history rather than propaganda you might come up with facts to support your arguemen
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Pardon. China was not the most aggressive state in history, nor did I say it was. Likewise, I would say that Jared Diamond's thesis is correct - that is, the reason why China was more aggressive than some states and less agressive than others was due primarily to geography and to regional conditions in East Asia. For example, it is hard to believe Japan would have developed as it did if there had been a land bridge between the Japanese archipeligo and the Chinese mainland.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel I wouldn't say that china was the least pacifist states in asia as there is alot of really pacifist states
but china was the more aggressive ones
I would disagree with you with japan, japan is one of the most aggressive states in asia
if china ever had the will it will whiped japan off the face of the earth wheather there is a land bridge or not
if you ever read about the wako's "japanese pirates" has launched many offensive against china
For long peroid of korea's history
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Japan was aggressive in Asia during two prominent periods in its history. The first was after the Sengoku Jedai, when Hideyoshi was looking for a means to get rid of the more aggressive samurai. In this first instance, the Koreans were more than a match for them. The second case was during the first half of the 20th century, when Japan had an overwhelming technologial advantage over China and a substantial advantage over the Russian Empire.
Otherwise China dominated Asia.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel china always had technological advantage in asia post industrialization
zheng he's fleet would of destroyed japan but didn't
second your point validates my arguement
before that japan was in the warring states period
when then were unified for that brief period, most of the time they were invading other countries
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
As a matter of fact the Chinese Empire is due to a number of mainland nations being "wiped off the face of the map" - being incorporated by the most ruthless force into an imperial superstate. Indeed, those of China's neighbors who survived - Korea, Vietnam, Japan - did so by developing a culture that prized martial prowess.
There was the Wu, Shu and Wei states. There was the Min and the Chu nations as well. Where did they run off to, while the Han Chinese were being "peaceful"?
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel wu shu and wei were post han
Dencendent of Min and Chu Are the people speaking min nan and Xiang
And they were assimilated into the han
The han was a brief period 2000 years ago and decendents of min and chu nations still proud to call them south han is because it was a peroid of great rule
while having no understanding the west call china "china" refering the the Qin dynasty which was tyrannical
that is why chinese people don't call themself the Qin people
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@DrCruel it has been colonized by the japanese
hence the ill feeling toward japanese where koreans cutt off their pinky to protest japanese agression
being pacifist countries, korea and china shared a strong friendship
that is evidence if you ever talk to any korean or watched any korean historical drama
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@DrCruel
did you know that european is you group them as a civilization are the only civilication that colonized every continent on the earth, which no other civilization has ever done
did you know that england was the largest drug exporter in the 19th century, and that drug was opium
something that you wouldn't know if you haven't read history
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen I can't say many of my Armenian ancestors were involved with colonialism, except perhaps on the receiving end. But what has any of that to do with the very real imperial history of China, which you still have seen fit to deny?
What's all this then?
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel as decendents of people that were colonized you should show empithy
And I do not deny that the fall of imperial china was their passive nature rather than their aggressive nature
it is china's nature to be subsurvient, when you go to china if you say your a foreigner your given better treatment than locals
but do you have any knowledge of chinese history?
during the power struggle between the song and jin, when general yiefei has a chance to pacify the jin and ensure song
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Empathy has nothing to do with it. You are claiming that China is and has always been a peaceful nation, and imply that this is characteristic of the Chinese "race". I am telling you that your assertion is nonsense - the empirical historical evidence disproves it.
What of Ying Zheng and the Qin dynasty? What of the Romance of the Three Kings era? The Ten Kingdoms era? The repeated conquests of Indochina and Korea?
Please don't call me ignorant for telling the truth.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel I think you are confusing peaceful with passive
and there is a difference between tyranny, civil war and war of aggression
almost all nations expeerience civil war
so are you calling the founding fathers of the united states agressors, the french revolution whre many lost their hewhat about how the english oppressed the scotlish not to mention the irish
alot of the kingdoms in the ten kingdoms era were foreign
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Not that this is pertient, but yes. The founding fathers of the US were not only slave-holding hypocrites, but many of them were self-serving crooks. Are you forgetting how the federal government used tax revenues to pay for mercenaries, that were then used to put down riots from colonists who balked at their high taxes after the war of rebellion? To say nothing of what the Americans did to the natives.
Don't get me started.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel power to the truth
they are slaveholders
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen You do realize talking to rocketman10owen, is no different from then trying to train an Afghan hound. Afghan hound: most dogs are smart, but this is known to be the least intelligent as it is the slowest to pick up new ideas and make associations.
He will never admit to being wrong nor will he ever change his view on the subject, because he is to extent religiously stuck on the view that China has a clean history (not one full of slavery and expansionism). Waste of time.
MrBlahhumbug 7 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug
Resorting to personal attacks only shows the weakness of your arguement
That said I would think that an Afghan hound would be more intelligent than you, at least they would know what is true or false, like why did the US attack afghanistan or iraq when there is no bin ladin or wmd.
If you want to convince someone at least make strong arguements. If you make weak or false arguement it will only make you seam feeble minded.
If you were to make the arguement for american
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug oppression or expansionism and then use the war of 1812 as an arguement of how the Americans has suppressed the Canadian. Or site the american revolution as american agression against the english.
You are not convincing anyone if all you say is that China committed slavery or is expansionist over and over again without strong support.
Any elementary student are taught to support their statements with strong arguements unless you are homeschooled
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug your arguement for chinese slavery or expansionism is childishly weak
As China is more of an introverted than extroverted society, The problem with China is that it treats outsiders way better than it's own people and I would use Corruption, wealth disparity (poverty) and pollution as my arguement.
Corruption is formost problem in historical China, more people die at the hand of chinese and dynasties fall because of corruption than anything else.
expecially corrruption at time
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug of famine and then I woould back it up with the great leap forward and yellow turbin rebellion
but then I would be making your arguement
But do you even know how childish you look like when you are trying to make intellectual arguement and then resort to personal attack and name calling
why don't you go back to kindergarten, I think you just pooped in your diapers
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@DrCruel stability but the song empire denied yuefei's request to defeat the jin which lead to the downfall of norhern song and left half of the country into the hand of the jins
or when general wu sangui let the manchu's through the great wall without giving a fight and that lead to the fall of the ming dynasty
or when the british and french burned and looted the summer palace, alot chinese national treasure in the royal british meseum was stolen back then
when china was forced to leased
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@DrCruel hong kong to britain, tsingdao to germany and macau to portugal
before modern industrialization china was the most advanced country
if china was ever as aggressive as the west, most of modern history would be dominated by china rather than the west
maybe you just don't have a solid foundation to chinese history or just ignorant to reality, or just like to open your big mouth
you should also know that japan was a country that china never attacked had committed the biggest crime
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen But of course China was at least as aggressive as "the West". The problem being that this aggression was often directed inward rather than outward. The same could be said for the Roman Empire - an exceptionally aggressive state, which because of geography and a lack of modern technology eventually reached a maximum size, wherein its aggression was turned inward to civil wars and social upheaval.
You seem to have entirely missed what Jared Diamond's thesis is all about.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel and that I agree with you
but it isn't helping when the west portrait china as a threat to global stability
rathen than a threat to itself
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Strangely, the Chinese communist state, hypocritical as it is, happens to be the only entity preventing the global economy from collapsing into a massive depression. The Maoist PRC literally is propping up Western capitalism, moreso than they ever did during the era of European colonialism. Although I'd say henrty Kissinger should be lauded as much as Deng Xiao Ping.
To destroy the West the PRC need not fire a single bullet. All they would have to do is stop lending us money.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel
While I am a deep supporter of capitalism
america should be embarassed of itself, getting beat at their own game
and nobody to blame but themself
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Maybe so, but they are not. Most American have become accustomed to entitlements paid for by money borrowed from hard working Chinese and Indians.
But this again has nothing to do with the very violent history of China.
Mind, one reason why China was so weak in the face of European colonialism was because of their own massive, calcified, kleptocratic bureaucracy. Mao, murderous as he was, helped to modernize China by sweeping them away. We've yet to learn our lesson.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel
and that massive, calcified, kleptocratic bureaucracy stopped them from committting agression against other countries
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@rocketman10owen Actually no, it didn't. I pointed out several instances where it didn't. Mind, the modern PRC isn't all that peaceful either - ask the Vietnamese and the Tibetans.
Perhaps you're talking about the Republic of China. They have had a rather peaceful history and, given that their officials are elected by popular vote, they do have a better claim to being the actual, legitimate government of China.
DrCruel 7 months ago
@DrCruel I don't see then Vietnamese complain when then use PRC weapon against American GIs
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@DrCruel against humanity in world war 2 or even human history
30+million chinese were killed by the japanese majority civilian
nanjing was sacked without any resistence, people just lined up in lines to be massacred
all totally ignored by the west
and western media were even dumbfounded by why chinese has such ill feeling and protest why the japanese prime minister visited the shrine occupied by class A war criminal
while even the lowest of nazi criminal was prosecuted, emperor hirohito
rocketman10owen 7 months ago
@DrCruel was allowed to walk free
and General Ishii, which pioneered human experimentation, by infecting chinese with biological and chemical weapons, performed vivisection with anesthatics and other grueling emperiment
to help japan develope their own weapon of mass destruction was aqquited of all charges
and were allowed to conduct bioweapon research in the United States post WW2
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MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
@andrben u obviously need to watch the whole documentary not just one of the videos before u attempt to share ur low intellect opinion with the rest of us... u fucking troll
hellblazer9261 11 months ago
@andrben jewish is a culture bro, you can still be white and jewish. Ive seen arabic jews and white(eg green eyes and blonde hair) jewish people, granted most of them(at least in america) look like Jared. Never seen a black or asian jew, but that doesnt mean they dont exists(probably more rare than a token black man)
ArmanCortez1 11 months ago
it's alawys funny to look at Diamond's reaction of a gunfire
friggingbomb88 11 months ago
thanks for uploading this!!!!
greentownshiphistory 11 months ago
MBIO 3000 Applied Biological Safety, yeah go Midterm
GalactcusSpartan 11 months ago
For some reason they forgot to mention the Zulu's top military technology... paint pictures of animals on their bodies to help them avoid the bullets!
Might have worked too had they thought it through and realized the animals couldn't dodge bullets either...
Dougster 1 year ago
@andrben Oh.
0HippyHunter0 1 year ago
when whites are attacked they show us crying babies. I didn't see that with Incas. typical
chillhood 1 year ago 15
@chillhood
That's because Incan children man'ed the fuck up.
dkpngbrn 7 months ago
@chillhood, I think what you are implying is incorrect. If you view the entire series, it goes out of its way to be balanced. You can't parse a single shot of a crying European baby in a reenactment scene from a 3 hour documentary and extrapolate that somehow the presentation is biased or trying to manipulate the viewers sympathies. In clip "17 of 18" Diamond visits an African hospital where there are many shots of REAL children sick with malaria, who are native Africans and who are NOT actors.
codymr1974 6 months ago 22
@codymr1974 I dont see how the hospital scenes relate to recreations in the documentary being a bit strangely arranged. If you look at the scenes were the spaniards massacre the incas, they seem to be gorified slightly. The music in the background is grandious battle scene music, whereas in this scene where the affricans kill the europeans the music is more dark an ominous. In the inca scene we are told more about the how the spanish felt..
iosuVakerizzo 4 months ago
@iosuVakerizzo .... and we see a man on a horse pretending to swordfight while telling us about the battle in a tone that sounds as if it was a great adventure in his eyes. It all seems really stange and although he seems to feel a bit sorry for the incas, it seems that he feels more sympathetic towards the spanish murderers.
In the African scene we see no sympathy towards the agressors like we did in the previous scene, all the sympathy is with the white man.
iosuVakerizzo 4 months ago
@iosuVakerizzo I'm sorry but if you look closely at the mise-en-scene, editing, music choice, the construction of the voice over, the pace of the scene, what they chose to show and how they showed it, it becomes really clear that the person making the film was biased when making this even if he is unaware of it. It will be very clear to anyone used to film deconstruction like myself.
However this doesn't mean that Jared Diamond is biased, he is obviously not, but he didn't direct those scenes.
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@codymr1974
Rachel Carson is to blame for the deaths of those poor African children from malaria.
DOGFUCKERRR 1 week ago
@chillhood
Are you mentally retarded? The entire point of this documentary, and the book it's based off of is to show that the reason the whites became the dominant race on earth has NOTHING to do with super intellect, so are you really trying to suggest this is bias in favor of whites? I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is the only part of the documentary you've seen, because if you've seen all the previous parts you would have to be a complete retard.
fredjustsucks 5 months ago 18
@fredjustsucks I do not know what he said but I think Guns, Germs and Steel gives a lack of credit to the Europeans for there development & accomplishments like if it was all an accident. Also the lack of credit to China or Persia. How do you explain other places that have similar advantages of that of Europe or Asia but yet did not developed as well or not at all? Example: How did Bill Gates get on top when IBM has all the money & resource? Guns, Germs and Steel has some truth but not 100%
xxTeutonicKnightxx 2 months ago
@fredjustsucks How do you explain the fact that German tribes that lived in the wood at this time developed Pattern welded steels & very sophisticated steel alloys at 700BC or 800BC were the Greeks & Persians did not! But yet Greece and Persia had more tools and resource to work with! Guns, Germs and Steel did not say anything about this...
xxTeutonicKnightxx 2 months ago
@chillhood Oh, eat a dick hippy.
physafunk 5 months ago
@chillhood all GGS dude, or their newest equivalents, which operate out of the meme pool. overall, this documentary is a little obnoxious whether that was meant to deprecate europeans or not. (i'm not white and i'm a liberal)
nactan 4 months ago
What a load of rubbish. Voortrekkers were simply farmers leaving growing English dominance in the Cape. The Voortrekkers entered Zululand looking for piece, and in fact had negotiated a peace treaty with Dingane (Zulu king). However, Dingane had stabbed them in the back, instead of signing the treaty, he had accused Retief and his disarmed men of "witchcraft" and had them all killed, along with surrounding settlements. The Voortrekkers then retaliated with the amazing battle of Blood river.
Romeowasbleeding1 1 year ago
@Romeowasbleeding1 alas, one will always defend their ancestry, no matter how wrong they were. they were INVADERS, and persisted even when the king of the land spoke his word no.
Serveck 1 year ago
@Serveck
Funny, since Dingana said "yes" to them, and in return for them being allowed to stay, the voortrekkers had to wrestle Dingane's stolen cattle back from an enemy of his. This the Voortekkers did, and it was after that Dingane betrayed them.
Anyway, they were not wrong at all, in that time, everyone was invading everyone. How on earth do you think the Zulu's got their Kingdom? Through a democratic vote? You can't judge those times from a modern perspective.
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nofollow 1 year ago
my favorite part of this entire 3 episodes was when the zulus killed the white vetrekkors and white kids
lifes40123 1 year ago
@lifes40123
If you like that... read about the battle of blood river. :)
Romeowasbleeding1 1 year ago
@Romeowasbleeding1 yeah i also like how white people go "BANG BANG BANG" with their gus on black people
lifes40123 1 year ago
C'mon Diamond. The Zulus "built," "organized," "authored," "established", and "developed" while the Europeans "inhereted", "stole", "adapted", and "borrowed". No integrity. When he says "Guns, Germs, and Steel won" he sets up this dichotomy that the Zulu's were using some other system. If Europeans were using luck and the Zulu's weren't, then what were they using? He'd have you believe raw ingenuity. Eastern Africa had been in contact with the SAME fertile cresent from the 7th century.
0HippyHunter0 1 year ago
So, now that the Africans and Native Americans have been killed out by disease and have built up immunities, are they just plain lucky like the Europeans were? Or is it different for them? Maybe they earned their immunity, while the Europeans just sumbled onto it, like the rest of their civilization. Diamond is putting out more UCLA crap. He wants to hate his people for "what they did", but be the guy pointing it out so he doesn't have to be branded as whitey.
0HippyHunter0 1 year ago
The Zulus look a lot like gorillas.
AlienSexRanger 1 year ago
@AlienSexRanger and the europeans look alot like neanderthals
DeportAnchorBabies 1 year ago
@DeportAnchorBabies lol that dude was insulting black people saying they look like gorillas... you are just saying something that might be a fact.. cro magnons or europeans might have evolved from neanderthals
lifes40123 1 year ago
The Zulus are back for on the hunt for Whitey these days.
Get your guns bois its gon be a long naaght!!
gunninlinguist 1 year ago
Mongols also slaughtered & spread destruction across an entire continent guess Asiatics are harsh too. There were many other races & protohumans in Africa who bit the dust. Gee wonder who killed them off. Could it have been duh black man?
gunninlinguist 1 year ago
Why was whitey so evil and mean & do such bad things? Because he could. Yall niggers would do it too!!
gunninlinguist 1 year ago
Then the europeans dug up a real good one.........."this land was promised to us by god, oh about 3000 yrs. ago or so......yeah, we got it on paper. Right here. And to show you how much we appreciate you guys taking care of it until now; were willing to let you guys live on half of it." Deal?
paz/peace/salam/shalom
translationwiz 1 year ago
I didn't know that so much of south africa is desert
whitesox889 1 year ago
Who could kills so mercilessly? Is this a trick question? LOL
uuubeut 1 year ago
Jared Diamond smashed racism and all the white superiority crap. Tell the Confederate slime rebels that are in graves to twist and turn because their white superior attitudes are crushed. So all you scum bag racists get a banjo and fly your idiot rebel flag ( I burned one last night) and go go ahead and wish that the "South shall Rise again"--because that isn't going to happen---hahah!
Deguello321 1 year ago
why do all the natives get killed on the 16th of the month? lol
a1425 1 year ago
"White Gods", my god, Ooloosoon, you're more stupid than I thought! You sit here preaching the superiority of your people, and you your self are an ignorant, bigoted, mentally deficient dumbshit. "teh white god men built all teh mesoamerican civilisation because the indians themselves said so!". God you're stupid, LOL! I guess I don't exist then since I am an "Indian" and have the intelligence to build such a civilization. It sucks being ethereal; which is what I am apparently.
drki11joy123 1 year ago
Voortrekker rifles. it was the same in Canada. native or white, if you had no weapons in the bush you were crazy! you wouldnt last long. and you never travelled alone! only the very smart and brave went on the land alone.
acerb45666555 1 year ago
black power thought it could dominate guns, germs and steel.
little did these niggas know that 100s of year from now they would create the elements of GUNS, DRUGS, SEX and LIES.
RadicalFiction 1 year ago
@RadicalFiction Guns created by whites, Drugs grown and cultivated and transported into Black neighborhoods by whites and your government agents like Ollie North during Iran/Contra, Meth addiction is a white suburban phenomenon. Whites created pornography and bestiality, and homosexuality, Lies are told so often they are called White Lies. etc.
ResearchKnowledge123 1 year ago
@ResearchKnowledge123 ~ Whites created pornography and bestiality, and homosexuality??? If you open your eyes you will find them in most civilizations.
God I hate racist idiots like you. Your first statement is sadly true buts its a class issue not a black white issue.
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@ResearchKnowledge123
Now tell us why negroes are so fucking stupid
TheJomogogo 1 year ago
@ResearchKnowledge123
But negroes invented AIDs by fornicating with monkeys. How many corrupt power hungry regimes in post colonial Africa? How many genocides wars corruption? General backward depravity that you wankers dont have the guts to take responsibility for. Armies of 10yr old soldiers.
gunninlinguist 1 year ago
@gunninlinguist You need to make sure that you stay in school until you receive a Ph. d you are obviously a typical undereducated and miseducated which equls dumb white person.
milleroh 1 year ago
Read the new book "The Evolution or Racial Differences In Intelligence" (written by the worlds Top Scientist Dr R Lynn)
Dr Lynn uses the work of over 500 different Scientific Research teams to show there are large Racial Differences in Brain size and IQ
Blacks have 5 cubic inch smaller brains than Whites
Dr Lynn also shows these are Genetic Differences pointing out that mixed race children also have smaller brains and lower IQs than White Children
Ooloosoon 1 year ago
Jesus, apparently like none of you have watched this video.
The reason white people/Europeans have such a violent history of conquering and subjugation of native peoples is they are the only group of people historically able to do so on a global scale.derp
neighborhoodgasman 2 years ago 28
@neighborhoodgasman The Chinese are entirely capable, yet their culture has so far not allowed them to. They don't even have a base set up outside Mainland China. Yet the US has 700 bases worldwide. The whitemans culture is one of war, and conquest, and drive for power. Whites covet expansion and war and power unlike other cultures. Whites are only 10% of the worlds population. Yet they are the only ones that desire to rule the world.
ResearchKnowledge123 1 year ago
@ResearchKnowledge123
Bullshit what about the Mongols & the Turks. The tyranny of the Aztecs against heighbouring peoples. Humankinds history is built on War.The only reason blacks didn't conquer other people was not bc they were merciful or noble but bc they had no power.
gunninlinguist 1 year ago
@gunninlinguist blacks did conquer other people
richbullva 8 months ago
@ResearchKnowledge123
Everyone is evil. War is HUMAN nature.
JeremyFuhenstasser 1 year ago
@JeremyFuhenstasser its true i have to admit... its getting better at least :)
redsw65432 1 year ago
@ResearchKnowledge123 Whites were not 10% of the worlds population in the 16th century, they were actuallly quite larger then that. Do not get (todays) population mixed with historical populations. There are more people in China today, then in the 16th century. You are forgetting "ResearchKnowledge" that China has in the past attempted to expand. If you know anything about Chinas history.
Each Dynasty in China's history has attempted to expand or collect tribute.
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
@neighborhoodgasman NO! They are the only people that had the desire to do so. No other people has ever attempted to conquer the world. China could easily have accomplished what whites did if they had the desire. Whites have a violent history because violence is something whites value culturally. Violence permeates every aspect of the culture. From entertainment, to religion, to sport, even cartoons and video games for children.
ResearchKnowledge123 1 year ago
@neighborhoodgasman , that is totally rubish im affraid , the chinese civilisation which was much more advanced in term of weapons , were also able to dominate and colonise the rest of the word but they didnt , its a fact europeans have the exclusivity in violence and destruction within the human kind , no other people can claim this distinction
temokam 8 months ago
@temokam it is not total rubish. Claiming that China as a civilization did not dominate or do harsh acts of violence is a load of crock and you know it. The tributary system of China enforced strict punishment to unlawful Kingdoms to to the might of China. Yaun Dynasty, which was a by product of Hun Empire of Gengis Khan commited tons of atrocities. Gengis Khans empire was one the largest Empires in History and was not spread by "peaceful" means. Do not try to paint a fake picture of China.
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
gengis khan only controlled a portion of , asia , but still you do not have any point by saying that you were the only one commiting attrocities because you were the only one able to , at the end of the day , the chinese never colonised foreign land , they never comited any genocide , and the period you are describing are around 12 th century , whereas , european hegemony is much more recent , from 18th century until now , we still see today , irak , afghanistan, etc ,
temokam 8 months ago
@temokam Genghis Khan did commit Genocides and historical evidence of it is everywhere. Yuan Dynasty was the result of Genghis Khan cause it was formed by his son Kabuli Khan. The Chinese were never expanding because the "Emperor and followers were Xenophobic. However, they conquered by "tribute systems". And, don't tell me you think China didn't have slaves or when they did go to war they didn't commit mass killings. The reality is Europeans had better technology in the 18th century
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
at the end of the day , no one will be able with strong arguments , to take away , the violent nature inherent to the white race , i mean if there is a race on earth celebrate in hell , if we could make a accountability of the most murderous race on earth the white race would stand out by far and that's a fact , today , in modern times , only the white people colonised and destroyed foreign cultures , this hegemonic behaviour still continue through imperialism and neocolonialism
temokam 8 months ago
@temokam new you were a racist. This is the part where i stop having a conversation with you, because logic reason and intellegence is something you lack. Conversation is pointless.
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
@temokam on an ending note: Take a look at Chinas involvement in Darfur (which no one can argue isn't a Genocide) or Chinas involvement in Tibet, and Mynamar.
If you think China has clean hands your an idiot, and need to go back to school. For you ignorance must be bliss.
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
China is doing business in Darfur without interfering with the internal politic , unlike the USA , that backed half of the worse dictatorships the world ever known , look at south america , Africa , all those dictators are backed by the USA , the Chinese at least are not hypocrite you know they are here for interest , but the united shits of america , manipulates the media pretending to interfere for humanitarian reason , lol laughable , and china doesn't have military bases around the world
temokam 8 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug WHY is THAT THE ONLY PEOPLES POSSESSING THE NUCLEAR POWER TO HAVE USED IT ON UNARMED CIVILIANS ARE THE AMERICANS(whites) , MANY COUNTRIES HAD THE BOMB AT THE TIME BUT NO ONE EVER USED IT LIKE THE UNITED SHITS OF AMERICAS DID .....TWICE WTF ?? ON UNARMED CIVILIANS?? , NOW HOW COMES WE WANT TO FORBID IRAN TO POSSES IT , WHILE WE HAVE A COUNTRY ATTACKING OTHERS COUNTRIES SUCH AS IRAQ WITH 1 MILLIONS CIVILIANS CASUALTIES DEATH , WITHOUT THE AGREEMENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY ?
temokam 8 months ago
AMERIKKKA IS INDEFEASIBLE , THE MOST POWERFUL WHITES NATIONS , IS ALSO THE MOST BRUTAL , BLOODTHIRSTY , SHAMELESS NATIONS ON EARTH , AMERICA IMPERIALISM TODAY NOT EVEN YESTERDAY IS DESTROYING THE LIFE OF MANY HUMANS IN THIS PLANET SIMPLY FOR YOU TO ENJOY MCDONNALDS AND TO DIE BECAUSE YOU EAT TWICE MORE THAN THE AVERAGE HUMAN AND DIE OF OBESITY , AMERICA IS THE MODEL OF WHAT HUMAN SHOULD AVOID TO BECOME GREEDINESS , ARROGANCE AND MATERIALISM MAKES YOU LOSE YOUR HUMANITY A BIT MORE EVERYDAY
temokam 8 months ago
@temokam the funny part about all this is that you live in Western Society and not the grand country of China. That is the real joke.
MrBlahhumbug 8 months ago
@MrBlahhumbug , IM ONLY INTERRESTED IN TRUTH , AND THE TRUTH IS YOU WERE WRONG SAYING THAT THE ONLY REASON EUROPEANS DOMINATED OTHERS COUNTRIES WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONLY ONE TO BE ABLE TO WHICH IS WRONG SINCE THE CHINESE WERE EVEN THE FIRST TO DISCOVER AFRICA AND TRADED WITH THEM FOR DECADES WITHOUT ENSLAVING THEM OR ETHNIC CLEANSING THEM , BUT STILL I`M NOT SAYING THAT ALL THE WESTERNS PEOPLES ARE WRONG I AM SAYING THAT THEIR POLICIES ARE WRONG
temokam 8 months ago
@neighborhoodgasman yeah i can't nececarilly blame them for it i'm sure if my people (well i'm canadian but of chinese descent) were more adventurous during the ming dynasty and explored into north america it could have been likely that my people will be getting a lot of slack for being evil and war mongering
Zyphyr104 8 months ago
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strange how it was actually asians that discovered gun, germs, and steel before europeans.
but whatever, europeans said columbus discovered america too.
it's really culture. asians are actually more superior but europeans are more violent because of their culture hence they wanted to conquer many parts of the world.
watch?v=QHyspkeyIfs
dumbspanishspammers 2 years ago
Asians discovered gun powder. Europeans made it useful and made guns.
Europeans aren't conflict-model oriented. Their model is based around scarcity/abundance - that's where they are in their game...thru that they are able to 'conquer'. Not b/c they are conflict oriented unlike some other groups who are and have conquered nothing.
willyrobinson 2 years ago
European civilisation is very conflict-oriented, not necessarily in the sense of mowing people down, but in its elevation of domination over cohesion. All cultures have a capacity for conflict, but few have excelled in it even among themselves with such destructive zeal (60m Europeans dead at each other's hands in the last century alone). Europeans aren't intrinsically evil, but they're no angels.
davepx 2 years ago
@dumbspanishspammers
Hardly worth a serious response but one example of why you're an idiot is rape of nanking.
tikitak 2 years ago
All Diamond postulates is that the people who lived in Europe succeeded and expanded vs those who lived on other continents. Race, color, religion, etc has no part of the theory. If blacks had populated Europe rather than whites, then it would have been black people conquering the world.
tecstarr 2 years ago
Yes that's the theory. There is no empirical evidence to support it. People's quality comes out whether they are free or oppressed.
willyrobinson 2 years ago
Blacks never had the IQ level to survive in Europe or Northern Asia in the first place
Read the book "The Evolution of Racial Differences in Intelligence" by Dr Richard Lynn
Ooloosoon 1 year ago
@Ooloosoon
IQ differences in black people are a result of today's culture.
Also, IQ is a poor measure of intelligence and success.
sputnikowns 1 year ago
incorrect
The "its the Environment that makes blacks/browns have low IQ" theory was shown to be wrong via the study of Genetic Twins in the late 1990s
(not that the Controled Media has made mention of this yet (lol)
The research on Genetic twins has shown clearly that the Environment or Culture means little or nothing
Of course anyone who honestly "Thinks" that somehow culture could make BRAIN SIZES SMALLER simply is not Thinking
btw IQ is a GREAT measure Success and Intelligence
Ooloosoon 1 year ago
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***IQ differences in black people are a result of today's culture.
Also, IQ is a poor measure of intelligence and success. **
Actually, if you read the research you will see that culture does not explain group differences between East Asians, Europeans, Ashkenazi Jews & other groups (see (2009). Whole-brain size and general mental ability: A review. International Journal of Neuroscience, 119, 691-731, or 30 Year Review. June 2005 issue of Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, Vol. 11, )
loadedh23 1 year ago
@Ooloosoon They did survive, by evolving into white people!
DanialWali 1 year ago
How's that when people from Europe simply migrated from Africa, how couldn't they have survived in Europe. It's all about adapting. Learning the land over a period of time, what to eat, what's bad, so on, so forth, it's not rocket science. You don't use any facts.
All over the world people have adapted to survive in harsher climates than whites and blacks. There are always people who will survive even the most impossible climates, race has nothing to do with it.
trolljanhorse 1