I never understood all this flaming between fans of Susanna, Michael and Peterson sisters. What really matters is that they were THE greatest female band of all time, period.
KICK ASS #2!!!!! This is my second favorite all time Bangles song....and I had know idea that my favorite girl (Debbie) sang BOTH of them!!!! WOW, AWESOME!!!
Okay ladies. I admit I did/do drool a little when Sue does the splits. I love the "dorky" performances of Sue, and to some extent Vicki. Michael was always the most polished stage presence. Debbi gets overlooked a little because of the drum kit, but she has a great voice! Sue's sideways looks made my heart skip a beat the first time I saw it and I have been hooked ever since. Nothing against the other gurls, but Sue reminds me of my wife in looks.
@jtkriskey Haha at least unlike others who get mad at me you can be diplomatic about it. :) I am a Bangles fan and I may have given out the impression that I hate Sue. Didn't mean to sound like that at all, she's actually my favorite voice in the Bangles because it's more girlish than the others (I relate better to female voices as a general rule), and features stronger vibrato. I just sort of wish it was less about the sex appeal that clearly broke the Bangles up. Theirs is a regrettable story.
@AlienAbandoned The funny thing is that to hear the gurlz tell the story, it was totally the record label that sold the sex and convinced Sue she needed to go solo. She felt physically sick about all of it. Seeing them now, they are having the fun they had BEFORE "All Over the Place" was released and started them up the charts. I still wish Michael was touring with them, but she needed to do her own thing I guess. They all still look great too!
@jtkriskey Oh really? I didn't know that. Thanks for enlightening me. :) That puts things all in perspective. Vicki was often quoted as saying that Sue wanted badly to be a star, so it's interesting to hear the record label was responsible for making her feel she had to amp it up. I knew about them pressuring her to go solo though. I'm sad about Michael too. I don't know why she felt it wasn't working for her, maybe it's because she's had a pretty rough life. I'm excited about their new album.
@AlienAbandoned Oh CAN IT, who do you think you are coming here to demerit Sue's outstanding charisma? They are all evenly matched in talent, but if you think for a while, anyone who would even first be a fan of The Bangles, HAS to know about good music. Nothing wrong with having a crush on the lead singer. She could well of been the drummer and I bet you she would still get all the attention she does today.
@DanielJoseDiego You can can it yourself and learn a little manners. I have a right to express the opinion I have of her if the Sue fanboys can go endlessly on extolling her virtues. The Bangles themselves disliked her obsessiveness with stealing the spotlight and being a star, Vicky flat out said Sue wasn't a a perpetrator but neither was she a victim, she was a little of both. The Bangles broke up because of her. But you know what? She's my favorite voice in the group. I know she's talented.
@DanielJoseDiego ...my comment about her charisma stands. To me, she has little to no stage presence when singing. Belinda Carlisle of the Go Go's had way more, she was smiling and dancing around and shimmying up there. Sue admitted she used to get stage fright. It's a clear contrast to the way she acts in her videos. She's great at acting and singing but she can't seem to translate that "charisma" to the live stage, just the recorded videos.
@AlienAbandoned So what's you point? That men shouldn't like her for that? Pretty shallow there, you sound just like some jealous housewife who's husband has the hots for Sue rather than her. Her singing and guitar skills are exceptional and the fact she can make a man shiver with just one look (even more so than Belinda Carlisle or most other female talents) is testimony enough of her greatness. Now all you need to say is Lady Gaga is way better and I'll shoot myself. =\
@DanielJoseDiego I can't believe how rude you can be, you know that? The only one who sounds shallow now is yourself, dude. You have no right making personal judgments on me or anyone else whose comments you disagree with. For your information I am not a housewife, I am young, happy and free, and I'm a confident attractive woman who doesn't need your opinion of me to make myself feel better. Some men prefer Carlisle, I wouldn't know. I don't think Gaga is better; don't like her much.
@DanielJoseDiego I have found the easiest way for men to put women down is to instantly insult their looks, status in life, brains, etc. Very nice and not shallow of you there. Go ahead, keep thinking she's the hottest thing going. I have and I stress this again, heard much better voices than hers. She is pleasant to listen to in the Bangles lineup and my fave of the 4, but her voice is not all that great. Men blow her talents and her looks way out of proportion.
@DanielJoseDiego Finally I'm in my 20's so I wasn't ALIVE when the Hoffs worship was going on. It could just be a generational thing; I concede she could have had special meaning for people who lived two decades ago and they like her still because she reminds them of their youth. As someone who missed out on this, and moreover as a straight female, I fail to see what all the fuss was about and I still dislike the "look at me, I'm sexy" vibe, regardless of whether or not it was Sue's fault.
@AlienAbandoned This was slightly before "my time" as well, but I find Susan's sexyness somehow forced. Someone described it as "raging bimboitis". That kind of sex appeal I guess is attractive to most men, but it doesn't do much for me. Maybe if I was a horny teenager in the 80s...
Now, Michael... There's a sexiness that doesn't feel forced.
@AlienAbandoned Dude, back then it wasn't all about Sue how you wanna make it look it was more about Cyndi Lauper, Janet Jackson, Pebbles, Tiffany and Madonna etc. than anything, Bangles weren't mainstream at all. You guys are just generating an opinion on how you believe the 80's were and that is FAR from what really was. Sue was NOT being imposed on anyone! They had little if any MTV time as opposed to the other female pop artists of the time.
@DanielJoseDiego I was a kid in the 80s and a fan of the Bangles...they were quite popular when Everything came out. I remember watching the In Your Room and Eternal Flame videos on MTV, and they were on the radio quite a bit, too. I was too young to go to any concerts, but I had their albums, watched them on tv, listened to them on the radio and read about them in magazines if I came across an article. It was a fun time.
@cabbagepatch777 They were know of course but faintly in comparison to the other mentioned artists. I too am a fan and for me it was, anything I could get my hands on, Bangle paraphernalia was a treasure for me. Have many things this very day including their albums from the years released, an autographed "When You're a Boy" album (by Sue of course) and even countless mementos from when they had their fan club "Bangles and Mash" based in Torrance CA. (I happened to live in the same neighborhood)
@DanielJoseDiego "exceptional" guitar skills? Dude, she can strum chords and play rhythm, but an exceptional guitar player she ain't. You can have the hots for her all you like, she does have a nice voice, but don't exaggerate. I find her one of the weaker instrumentalists in the band. I'm not competent enough to judge Debbi's drum playing, but Vicki's guitar work and Michael's bass groove blow Susan out of the water. You really need to listen to more guitarists if you think otherwise.
@ugowar Listen to more guitarists? bwahaha. You have no idea. You guys didn't live through these times, you never went to a concert in their prime, What do you know???? Oh yeah, you spend countless hours watching videos online. ¬¬
@DanielJoseDiego I know a competent guitar player when I hear one. Hoffs is not one. Someone who frequently has to use a capo and only ever does chord strumming does not qualify as an exceptional guitarist. No amount of you-actually-having-lived-back-then or whatnot is going to change that. Then again, I don't know which universe you live in. All I know is your ad hominems make you look like a schoolboy. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to spending hours on watching online videos.
@ugowar "only ever does chord strumming". <- lmao, you obviously don't know anything about her career. I rest my case, Keep on watching videos cyber-warrior.
No offense to all you drooling fanboys out there, but doing the splits on stage is not that impressive. Every lame cheerleader who ever wanted to make ASB pulls something like that: "Vote for me 'cause I'm so cute and I can do the splits!" Sue even said she did it "because she could." Vicki had a great song going and she just stole her thunder. Bet all the fanboys drooled over that one. I like Sue, but enough is enough already.
@BeccaGSD Haha, don't mention it. ;) You know, before I got into the Bangles I had no idea there was this all-male worship of S. Hoffs. The more geeky comments I read, the more perplexed I am; all 4 women are beautiful. She's hardly the most beautiful woman in the world and I have honestly heard much better voices (Ofra Haza comes to mind.) But then, I'm a straight woman, what do I know, right?
@BeccaGSD I happen to own Return to Bangleonia, and it shows just how much they can rock even though they are older, and why them and the Go-Go's aren't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is completely beyond my comprehension.
BeccaGSD, you sound jealous! You should really take some time to do a little research into who did most of the writing. Susanna and Vicki are the creative drive behind most of the Bangles original songs. Yeah, she's hot, but she's also not without musical talent.
BTW, I'm 41 and also play guitar. I may not have followed the Bangles from inception, but I love their early stuff with Annette (Bangs era). I just think your comments were very "catty" and jealous sounding. You are obviously a Michael fan who's wishing she's still playing with them, and I don't blame you. I miss her, too.
Actually, I love Michael,..to death. A great musician that bowed out and I miss, as a talent. Yes I adored her even in her brief stint in the Runaways. Vicki was my heart. Got her, understood her, met her 5-8 times, with the Bangles and the Continential Drifters.
It is hard to convey emotions properly here. I meant nothing catty, or austentagious at all.
You are making broad assumptions,..IE Mikki Fan,..Susanna Basher...you see we are limited on letters to make coheisive words here,..hard to get a point over with a clear strain or path of thought
V. Peterson during their split said herself, the Bangles (like the Supremes) had turned into a Susanna Hoffs & The Bangles, and this led to Michael leaving, and the bands demise.
It took YEARS before anyone wanted to revisit it. Years to believe that Susanna was back in the game as a musician. NOT a face. She had a huge Center Of Attention problem by the end of the Everything ALbum
As you say, "During their split..." When most bands break, there are usually some hard feelings. Vicki has also said that she went through some time where creatively she felt apart from the rst of the band, so should I blame her for the original split? I am simply glad they reunited and continue to perform. While I wish Michael would have wanted to stay with them, maybe she just doesn't feel like touring.
Hard feelings founded and confirmed by my general concenses of S.H.
Michael is a very independent person, and off stage quite the extrovert whom may have just fallen out of love with live performing. But the issues with Sue, ego, etc are long known. They are older, wiser and more mature now, and Deb Vic and Sue seem to be on the same page and thats wonderful
BTW Vicki felt removed as the producers were pushing Sue songs, gummy, mushy,. pre written songs. After Vic wrote Bell Jar, she had to FIGHT to get that on Everything. It wast "commercial" and the execs wanted SUE to sing it.'
It all shifted towards Hoffs, by her looks.
Notice how well her solo album did, or that movie, All Nighter did, that her MOM directed
wow power house performance from the bangles and the guitarist sang a couple songs
mikr671 10 months ago
I never understood all this flaming between fans of Susanna, Michael and Peterson sisters. What really matters is that they were THE greatest female band of all time, period.
Sordidlives1973 1 year ago
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mollysangelique 1 year ago
it's ANGELS not ANGELS lol :)
Great video anyway thanks
maltanetworkresource 1 year ago
I love vicky's voice, she has the most powerful voice compared to the other 3 girls
Jeromepsy001 1 year ago
KICK ASS #2!!!!! This is my second favorite all time Bangles song....and I had know idea that my favorite girl (Debbie) sang BOTH of them!!!! WOW, AWESOME!!!
DRUMTOY2002 1 year ago
Okay ladies. I admit I did/do drool a little when Sue does the splits. I love the "dorky" performances of Sue, and to some extent Vicki. Michael was always the most polished stage presence. Debbi gets overlooked a little because of the drum kit, but she has a great voice! Sue's sideways looks made my heart skip a beat the first time I saw it and I have been hooked ever since. Nothing against the other gurls, but Sue reminds me of my wife in looks.
jtkriskey 1 year ago
@jtkriskey Haha at least unlike others who get mad at me you can be diplomatic about it. :) I am a Bangles fan and I may have given out the impression that I hate Sue. Didn't mean to sound like that at all, she's actually my favorite voice in the Bangles because it's more girlish than the others (I relate better to female voices as a general rule), and features stronger vibrato. I just sort of wish it was less about the sex appeal that clearly broke the Bangles up. Theirs is a regrettable story.
AlienAbandoned 5 months ago
@AlienAbandoned The funny thing is that to hear the gurlz tell the story, it was totally the record label that sold the sex and convinced Sue she needed to go solo. She felt physically sick about all of it. Seeing them now, they are having the fun they had BEFORE "All Over the Place" was released and started them up the charts. I still wish Michael was touring with them, but she needed to do her own thing I guess. They all still look great too!
jtkriskey 5 months ago
@jtkriskey Oh really? I didn't know that. Thanks for enlightening me. :) That puts things all in perspective. Vicki was often quoted as saying that Sue wanted badly to be a star, so it's interesting to hear the record label was responsible for making her feel she had to amp it up. I knew about them pressuring her to go solo though. I'm sad about Michael too. I don't know why she felt it wasn't working for her, maybe it's because she's had a pretty rough life. I'm excited about their new album.
AlienAbandoned 5 months ago
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@AlienAbandoned Oh CAN IT, who do you think you are coming here to demerit Sue's outstanding charisma? They are all evenly matched in talent, but if you think for a while, anyone who would even first be a fan of The Bangles, HAS to know about good music. Nothing wrong with having a crush on the lead singer. She could well of been the drummer and I bet you she would still get all the attention she does today.
DanielJoseDiego 5 months ago
@DanielJoseDiego You can can it yourself and learn a little manners. I have a right to express the opinion I have of her if the Sue fanboys can go endlessly on extolling her virtues. The Bangles themselves disliked her obsessiveness with stealing the spotlight and being a star, Vicky flat out said Sue wasn't a a perpetrator but neither was she a victim, she was a little of both. The Bangles broke up because of her. But you know what? She's my favorite voice in the group. I know she's talented.
AlienAbandoned 5 months ago
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AlienAbandoned 5 months ago
@DanielJoseDiego ...my comment about her charisma stands. To me, she has little to no stage presence when singing. Belinda Carlisle of the Go Go's had way more, she was smiling and dancing around and shimmying up there. Sue admitted she used to get stage fright. It's a clear contrast to the way she acts in her videos. She's great at acting and singing but she can't seem to translate that "charisma" to the live stage, just the recorded videos.
AlienAbandoned 5 months ago
@AlienAbandoned So what's you point? That men shouldn't like her for that? Pretty shallow there, you sound just like some jealous housewife who's husband has the hots for Sue rather than her. Her singing and guitar skills are exceptional and the fact she can make a man shiver with just one look (even more so than Belinda Carlisle or most other female talents) is testimony enough of her greatness. Now all you need to say is Lady Gaga is way better and I'll shoot myself. =\
DanielJoseDiego 5 months ago
@DanielJoseDiego I can't believe how rude you can be, you know that? The only one who sounds shallow now is yourself, dude. You have no right making personal judgments on me or anyone else whose comments you disagree with. For your information I am not a housewife, I am young, happy and free, and I'm a confident attractive woman who doesn't need your opinion of me to make myself feel better. Some men prefer Carlisle, I wouldn't know. I don't think Gaga is better; don't like her much.
AlienAbandoned 5 months ago
@DanielJoseDiego I have found the easiest way for men to put women down is to instantly insult their looks, status in life, brains, etc. Very nice and not shallow of you there. Go ahead, keep thinking she's the hottest thing going. I have and I stress this again, heard much better voices than hers. She is pleasant to listen to in the Bangles lineup and my fave of the 4, but her voice is not all that great. Men blow her talents and her looks way out of proportion.
AlienAbandoned 5 months ago
@DanielJoseDiego Finally I'm in my 20's so I wasn't ALIVE when the Hoffs worship was going on. It could just be a generational thing; I concede she could have had special meaning for people who lived two decades ago and they like her still because she reminds them of their youth. As someone who missed out on this, and moreover as a straight female, I fail to see what all the fuss was about and I still dislike the "look at me, I'm sexy" vibe, regardless of whether or not it was Sue's fault.
AlienAbandoned 5 months ago
@AlienAbandoned This was slightly before "my time" as well, but I find Susan's sexyness somehow forced. Someone described it as "raging bimboitis". That kind of sex appeal I guess is attractive to most men, but it doesn't do much for me. Maybe if I was a horny teenager in the 80s...
Now, Michael... There's a sexiness that doesn't feel forced.
ugowar 4 months ago
@AlienAbandoned Dude, back then it wasn't all about Sue how you wanna make it look it was more about Cyndi Lauper, Janet Jackson, Pebbles, Tiffany and Madonna etc. than anything, Bangles weren't mainstream at all. You guys are just generating an opinion on how you believe the 80's were and that is FAR from what really was. Sue was NOT being imposed on anyone! They had little if any MTV time as opposed to the other female pop artists of the time.
DanielJoseDiego 4 months ago
@DanielJoseDiego I was a kid in the 80s and a fan of the Bangles...they were quite popular when Everything came out. I remember watching the In Your Room and Eternal Flame videos on MTV, and they were on the radio quite a bit, too. I was too young to go to any concerts, but I had their albums, watched them on tv, listened to them on the radio and read about them in magazines if I came across an article. It was a fun time.
cabbagepatch777 4 months ago
@cabbagepatch777 They were know of course but faintly in comparison to the other mentioned artists. I too am a fan and for me it was, anything I could get my hands on, Bangle paraphernalia was a treasure for me. Have many things this very day including their albums from the years released, an autographed "When You're a Boy" album (by Sue of course) and even countless mementos from when they had their fan club "Bangles and Mash" based in Torrance CA. (I happened to live in the same neighborhood)
DanielJoseDiego 4 months ago
@DanielJoseDiego "exceptional" guitar skills? Dude, she can strum chords and play rhythm, but an exceptional guitar player she ain't. You can have the hots for her all you like, she does have a nice voice, but don't exaggerate. I find her one of the weaker instrumentalists in the band. I'm not competent enough to judge Debbi's drum playing, but Vicki's guitar work and Michael's bass groove blow Susan out of the water. You really need to listen to more guitarists if you think otherwise.
ugowar 4 months ago
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@ugowar So now you come to answer with your other account? wtf?
DanielJoseDiego 4 months ago
@ugowar Listen to more guitarists? bwahaha. You have no idea. You guys didn't live through these times, you never went to a concert in their prime, What do you know???? Oh yeah, you spend countless hours watching videos online. ¬¬
DanielJoseDiego 4 months ago
@DanielJoseDiego I know a competent guitar player when I hear one. Hoffs is not one. Someone who frequently has to use a capo and only ever does chord strumming does not qualify as an exceptional guitarist. No amount of you-actually-having-lived-back-then or whatnot is going to change that. Then again, I don't know which universe you live in. All I know is your ad hominems make you look like a schoolboy. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to spending hours on watching online videos.
ugowar 4 months ago
@ugowar "only ever does chord strumming". <- lmao, you obviously don't know anything about her career. I rest my case, Keep on watching videos cyber-warrior.
DanielJoseDiego 4 months ago
No offense to all you drooling fanboys out there, but doing the splits on stage is not that impressive. Every lame cheerleader who ever wanted to make ASB pulls something like that: "Vote for me 'cause I'm so cute and I can do the splits!" Sue even said she did it "because she could." Vicki had a great song going and she just stole her thunder. Bet all the fanboys drooled over that one. I like Sue, but enough is enough already.
AlienAbandoned 2 years ago 2
THANK YOU!@!!!!!!!!!!
BeccaGSD 2 years ago
@BeccaGSD Haha, don't mention it. ;) You know, before I got into the Bangles I had no idea there was this all-male worship of S. Hoffs. The more geeky comments I read, the more perplexed I am; all 4 women are beautiful. She's hardly the most beautiful woman in the world and I have honestly heard much better voices (Ofra Haza comes to mind.) But then, I'm a straight woman, what do I know, right?
AlienAbandoned 2 years ago 3
Vicki had a nice voice.
throwntomato 2 years ago 2
GOD Damn Michael was such a solid, consistent Bass player,..
BeccaGSD 2 years ago 13
@BeccaGSD I happen to own Return to Bangleonia, and it shows just how much they can rock even though they are older, and why them and the Go-Go's aren't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is completely beyond my comprehension.
Madamow 6 months ago
My 4 favorite icons of the 80's singing about another of my icon of the 60's Haley Mills.
edditude09 2 years ago 2
VICKI and Michael were the heart of this band,..Debbie the true talent,..and Susanna eye candy
Nuff said
BeccaGSD 2 years ago 3
Susanna's splits and Michael's skirt make this video well worth the price of admission! Impressive to say the least!
jtkriskey 2 years ago 2
Well said.
I'd love to see any of today's bands do what Susanna did.
JosephKuby 2 years ago
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BeccaGSD 2 years ago
BeccaGSD, you sound jealous! You should really take some time to do a little research into who did most of the writing. Susanna and Vicki are the creative drive behind most of the Bangles original songs. Yeah, she's hot, but she's also not without musical talent.
jtkriskey 2 years ago
ummmm scuse me? I am a 38 yrs old dear and have been a guitarist and bassist for 26 yrs. I have followed the Bangles since their inception.
Most was written by V.P. even back when Annette Z. was on Bass.
Sues mediocre playing ability was glossed up and selling her face became more importent then the band as a whole
Deb, Vick and Mic all seem the musicians musicans. More concerned about material, and not if their mascara is running.
BeccaGSD 2 years ago 2
BTW, I'm 41 and also play guitar. I may not have followed the Bangles from inception, but I love their early stuff with Annette (Bangs era). I just think your comments were very "catty" and jealous sounding. You are obviously a Michael fan who's wishing she's still playing with them, and I don't blame you. I miss her, too.
jtkriskey 2 years ago
Actually, I love Michael,..to death. A great musician that bowed out and I miss, as a talent. Yes I adored her even in her brief stint in the Runaways. Vicki was my heart. Got her, understood her, met her 5-8 times, with the Bangles and the Continential Drifters.
It is hard to convey emotions properly here. I meant nothing catty, or austentagious at all.
Just an opinion.
BeccaGSD 2 years ago 3
Susanna got the ratings, and accolades, and she may be talented, but she was the least of the bunch
Id love to talk to you privately, we could have some very good musical discussions
No harm nor foul here
BeccaGSD 2 years ago
You are making broad assumptions,..IE Mikki Fan,..Susanna Basher...you see we are limited on letters to make coheisive words here,..hard to get a point over with a clear strain or path of thought
Give me that at least
BeccaGSD 2 years ago
V. Peterson during their split said herself, the Bangles (like the Supremes) had turned into a Susanna Hoffs & The Bangles, and this led to Michael leaving, and the bands demise.
It took YEARS before anyone wanted to revisit it. Years to believe that Susanna was back in the game as a musician. NOT a face. She had a huge Center Of Attention problem by the end of the Everything ALbum
BeccaGSD 2 years ago
As you say, "During their split..." When most bands break, there are usually some hard feelings. Vicki has also said that she went through some time where creatively she felt apart from the rst of the band, so should I blame her for the original split? I am simply glad they reunited and continue to perform. While I wish Michael would have wanted to stay with them, maybe she just doesn't feel like touring.
jtkriskey 2 years ago
Hard feelings founded and confirmed by my general concenses of S.H.
Michael is a very independent person, and off stage quite the extrovert whom may have just fallen out of love with live performing. But the issues with Sue, ego, etc are long known. They are older, wiser and more mature now, and Deb Vic and Sue seem to be on the same page and thats wonderful
BeccaGSD 2 years ago 4
BTW Vicki felt removed as the producers were pushing Sue songs, gummy, mushy,. pre written songs. After Vic wrote Bell Jar, she had to FIGHT to get that on Everything. It wast "commercial" and the execs wanted SUE to sing it.'
It all shifted towards Hoffs, by her looks.
Notice how well her solo album did, or that movie, All Nighter did, that her MOM directed
BeccaGSD 2 years ago 4
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BeccaGSD 2 years ago
Do the splits?
JosephKuby 2 years ago
I CAN'T TAKE IT!!!
smilingpug 2 years ago
WHOA! That was amazing!
Geemeister777 2 years ago
Those ladies sure know how to rock.
Look today's pop punk bands - none of them seem as rowdy or as talented as what's on offer here.
JosephKuby 2 years ago 7
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Geemeister777 2 years ago