I don't care how many thumbs down I get, I thought his imitation gimmick was very impressive. I've never really seen a wrestler use other wreslter's movesets so well.
@emurami no they don't, there are several different English accents, you mean to tell me that someone with a Cockney English accent sounds like someone who does not?
Charlie Hass......the WWE is not the amateurs. WTF are you talking about? The Creative Team doesn't know how to write for division one athletes? Give me a break!! That is one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever listened 2 in a shoot interview in my life. Charlie Hass is a great wrestler with a ton of talent, but sometimes he makes ridiculous comments in shoot interviews that have no place in shoot interviews whatsoever. Professional wrestling & amateur wrestling are two separate entities
@lildwayne21 Yes, but there are those of us who remember when pro wrestling was taken quite seriously. It was covered in SPORTS pages, and treated as such. Yes, it was entertainment, but like a good movie, it didn't try to point out that it was "fake".
@josephD32 I realize that. Hell, professional wrestling used to be taken so seriously back in the 70s that there was even a good wrestling magazine out back then called "Wrestling World Magazine" if I I recall correctly. I remember when professional wrestling was taken seriously Joseph. I'm not immune to when it was covered in sports pages, you can turn off the caps button, but unfortunately those days are over. Nobody covers wrestling in sports pages anymore.
@josephD32 You know why nobody covers wrestling in sports pages anymore Joseph? Because its not as entertaining as it used to be. In the 80s, 70s, 90s and during the Monday Night Wars, they used to cover wrestling in sports pages all the time. Not anymore though. People wised up, guys got smart and started learning about the business, the storylines got stale and went to hell in a handbasket, and now nobody barely ever covers it in sports pages anymore.
@josephD32 When is the last time you saw a sports page writeup for a wrestling event fam? Unless its a house show writeup highly or some type of interview for publicity purposes, highly unlikely that you're going to see one today.
@lildwayne21 People don't take wrestling seriously, mainly because wrestling doesn't take itself seriously. Hell, WWE tries not to call itself "wrestling" at all. It puts a lot of us on the Indies in an odd spot, because you make it to the top. Once you do, tho, you become disillusioned with what wrestling has become. People "wised up" because WWE and TNA have went out of their way to actually tell people it's a work.
@josephD32 Yeah, but you can't only put all the blame of WWE and TNA for telling people that wrestling is a work, you mean to tell me, that guys like Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alverez didn't have a role in that either?
@SadisticScott This is true. However, Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez aren't on WWE television or the WWE website, not only telling people it's a work but often showing how it's a work. Most fans who even know who those guys are pretty much have a basic idea of how wrestling works anyway. Those two are more like the magazines and websites that review movies or talk about the actors when they're out and about. They're not in the movie screwing it up for you while you're watching it.
@lildwayne21 Yes, I realize that wrestling is "entertainment", but you wouldn't see another form of entertainment like movies (good ones, anyway) going out of their way to tell you that the guy killed in the plane crash isn't really dead. We know he, the actor, is alive and well, but the character is dead. If wrestling took their characters half as seriously as movies did, we wouldn't have this issue. Charlie Haas was a division one athlete - portray him as such. Simple.
At the heights WWE are at, they simply cannot take themselves seriously and call it Wrestling, because of the age of the Internet, everyone and their Mother knows what goes on behind the scenes and how it all works. WWE would get nothing but ridicule if they took themselves 100% serious. Everything changes in this Universe and you either adapt with it or die.
@Subliminallll the funny thing about that is, that the "heights" that WWE are at are down FAR from even the late 1980's when they were running three rosters, running and selling out three houses in different cities each night. In many ways, business now is down.
As for taking themselves 100% seriously, that's not what I meant. Be entertaining, just don't advertise that it's a work. Hell, people have known wrestling is a work for nearly a century.
Lol at ANYONE who thinks Haas has Cena level talent. And LMFAO at anyone that thinks Benjamin has any charisma. Dude was pushed big time, he got back to back wins over HHH and he flopped. I H8 internet smarks. You've ruined the product and industry. If people like the IWC ran a promotion, the promotion would be dead quick. RoH doesn't grow because it doesn't draw. You dense fanboys wouldn't know talent if it skull fucked you.
So Haas is in ROH right? I know ROH is solvent enough to offer contracts but wondering if he was ever considered to go to Impact Wrestling? Surprised they didn't attempt to sign him, given his youth and name value.
Thing is bookers used to be in complete control of the shows and it was the wrestlers who got them self over. Now the booker has taken a back seat to the hollywood writers which screws the product up because writers don't have a feel for the business and the reason bookers do is because they are usually wrestlers or retired wrestlers. thats one of the main problems with wrestling today though there are many other reasons
now i realize why WWE has been shit for the last few years and he is right about WWE not giveing the tag division a big enough push beacuse the tag titles wernt important for a while
Is this guy a fool? This isn't sports, it's entertainment! If you are going on tv you have to realize it. Of Course there is politics...it's entertainment!
He is speaking the truth ROH and the Haas and Benjamin tag team is a perfect combination. To wrestlers in the WWE w/ pending "Future Endevors" please SAVE YOUR MONEY.
It's funny...for tas long as I've been a fan I've never heard ONE bad thing about Dave Finlay. The guy has survived several different eras of the sport and is still a respected ring general. Those are few and far between. It's a shame that his old school way of thinking led him to make one bad decision at a friggin house show and because WWE is so political, they care more about their sponsors than their loyal employees...so Finlay is gone. Fuck this company!
Amen Charlie Haas! This is why I don't watch WWE anymore, instead of pushing REAL WRESTLERS, and guys with talent like you and Shelton, young guys who have real potential to help the business they push guys who can't put on a good wrestling match and are losers.... like cena and all of these 3rd generation guys.
@TWFlintNC Cena is the FURTHEST THING from a loser. Don't talk out of your ass like that. His skill isn't the best but he is successful as a true entertainer and does it well. If you are looking for TRUE wrestling skill, watch college wrestling or Olympic wrestling. Its about entertainment! I didn't like Cena at first but his skill as a captivating and successful talent is top notch. I like him and respect what he's done. When you've done 1/4 as much, call me.
ROH is perfect for Haas really, just gets the chance to show just how good a wrestler he is. Plus his chemistry as a friend and a team with Benjamin is pretty great.
@Nepthu you ever notice how when Haas and Benjamin came back as a tag team they had them job to crime time, when everyone knows Benjamin and haas can put a better show than Cena can if they got Cena's push. They always had haas and Benjamin job to shitty wrestlers that they could outwrestle . It's bullshit they should have been the new face of the wwe with cm punk and Bryan danielson . Not Cena Orton Triple H or Edge they've had there time
The politics he's talking about exist in almost every job. It's funny that he says they don't know how to write for athletes "like us." They write fine for everyone else, don't they?
I respect the hell out of this guy for what he did there. Fair play to him. It is great to hear about someone else who isn't into ass kissing to get ahead. That has never been my style and I appreciate the hell out of others who have this mindset. Not an easy way to get ahead.
The people who have been exploited and underhanded by the WWE management need to form what other people form for such bad business practice to their employees; a union. Benjamin, Haas, Carlito, Punk, Truth, Hardy, James...and a few others; they need to be the first people to form some sort of union to look out for the best interests of wrestlers being mistreated to taken advantage of. Until that happens, it will continue!
Haas had a 4-way match in 1PW against Samoa Joe, AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. In that match, away from WWE, he displayed amazing wrestling skill, especially submission, that he never could in WWE. Haas and his tag team partner Shelton Benjamin are now in ROH, where they could finally show the fans what they could do in the ring and be appreciated for it.
Ring Of Honor respects professional wrestling and those who could do it. In ROH, its not sports entertainment, but an entertaining sport
Today it seems WWE looks to hire comedians, dancers, leprechauns, ex-reality tv stars, and some roided & monotoned amazingly boring creatures... Mason Ryan, Otunga, Jackson etc... WWE has some great talent, but nobody seems to care as much for the reason that they don't have a voice, a valued championship tag team Intercontinental etc..., a story line, TV time, and most importantly the holy grail that is the MICROPHONE. Oh, and by the way HASS kicked and still kicks major ass!
It sucks that Shelton and Charlie never got used more than they did. At least Shelton got the IC and US title, Charlie didnt get shit. They both deserved to win atleast one World championship
So the Conclusion is not Vinnie Mac's fault its those dummasses Michael Hayes and that Rat guy Kevin Dunn and that "Yes Man" John Laurianitis like Punk said
@SinCity2100 No. Anyone with any sense whatsoever doesnt waste energy blaming Cena or Hogan or WWE creative or Eric Bischoff or *insert anti christ de juer* for the state of the industry.
@6steveo9 stop taking it so seriously. Wrestling is supposed to be fun and u marks are taking all the fun out of it. Lighten up and watch it or dont watch it.
@1981bigdee The fact that you posted "Wrestling is supposed to be fun" in response to criticism of Vince is actually laughable.
Tell that to Vince.
And if I was a mark I would believe everything I read on the net and be one of those who blame all the wrong people for the state of what passes for Pro Wrestling these day.
Oh and btw, marks pay for tickets. Marks make the business tick.
Or they used to before they started ignoring the fans.
@1981bigdee And another thing. Maybe if, like during the boom periods, people took wrestling more seriously, especially those running it, we wouldnt be discussing Charlie Haas on some podcast or radio show; he'd be employed.
Does it not marry up for you no? They moved away from traditions, from fundimentals and the business has tanked.
@1981bigdee Proves it. What exactly? That I dont like all the ballbags serving agendas against the likes of Hogan or Cena when in actual fact the real enemy is someone else?
These same folks who claim to love wrestling? But arent interested in what ails it? Only interested in w/e gets hits on their website.
And here you are acting like Im the one with a problem.
You do realise that there would be no industry if it wasnt for folks who are/were passionate about it?
@1981bigdee That love sponge guy said the same stuff you are to Jim Cornette.
"dont take it too seriously" "lighten up"
That was in the middle of shitting on the business by mocking the serious nature of what these guys do.
If you're content to be continuously treated like an idiot for you patronage of Raw or Impact go ahead, just dont expect is all to be flurodated, TV downloaded, minions.
@WrestlingReviewerx No, but you're close. Road Warrior Animal is JOE Lauranaitis. JOHN Lauranaitis is executive VP and head of Talent Relations in WWE. The two are brothers.
@WrestlingReviewerx I stand corrected, I thought it was Animal was John because I said an interview with James Laurinaitis and just thought it was Animal
@WrestlingReviewerx I stand corrected, I thought it was Animal was John because I said an interview with James Laurinaitis and just thought it was Animal
haas is a good wrestler and i suppose athelete as well. he has no charisma and mic skills. it's hard to write for that. of course, wwe can't write for people who have charisma and skills. they don't know how to utilize talent or choose not to. but sorry charlie hard to write a story for a guy who has no mic skill. i do enjoy your matches.
@Fektthis It's actually pretty easy to do. Heyman did it all the time in old ECW, and WCW even did it with Goldberg. All they have to do is let them do the matches, and, at most, give them only a few words or let someone else do the talking for him. They had that when they made Kurt Angle his and Shelton's mentor.
The WWE creative team just tries to be too hard to soap opera or sideshow guys, and try to make guys be the way they want to be, instead of who they really are.
@thatonedude675 yea, that's usually a traditional face type character. wrestling today doesn't really have those. benoit would have been a good example. well, before he, you know. all the guys want to be cool bad guys though and that doesn't work if you can't use the mic. haas and benjamin as a face tag team would be way over, if tag team wrestling wasn't completely dead in wwe. it's more a sign of the times i suppose. guys with skill can get over if they keep quite and let em win.
i mean this is just a great interview man ..like he totally fuckin shoots on wwe..fuck that he shits on them..hard man n he sounds like he really does hate wwe for passin him off like hes not shit
They dont write for athletes asshole, they write for entertainers, and rattling off your accomplishments in sports makes you sound like an asshole jabroni!
@TrollingPatrolling - As sad as it may sound, I think you're exactly right. Although its disappointing for kids who wish to enter the business who may be amazing athletes but simply aren't comfortable on the mic.
@intheTea04 Well, the thing is you don't have to go out there having a blueprint for how you are going to handle the mic. It all depends on how it blends in with your character. Shelton Benjamin I thought was an amazing athlete and whatever little he did on the mic complemented him very well. WWE could have slowly pushed him to the no.1 contention spot, dissapoint him a great number of times. ( Vince Screwing him and shyt like that) and finally he would one day become the wwe champ. ( continued)
@intheTea04 ( continued) That's how you write and build up a great story. These days, no effort is put into the mix of the character and anyone can become the champ.
The fact that you honestly think haas is a star is laughable, the guy has the charisma of a 2x4 and is soooooo cocky that his ego needs a zip code no wonder even Vince couldnt make a dime off this guy. Keep believing his underachievement cries on creative, Steve Austin got held back and didnt cry, he laced his boots up and became a star
@brethart87 he is a PRO WRESTLER you asshole not a "star" like john cena. who would you rather watch in a ring haas vs benjamin or haas vs cena?? if your answer is cena you ARE NOT a pro wrestling fan and therefore your opinion is meaningless! go watch that garbage called wwe or tna
@brethart87 STone Cold Did Cry In ECW About WCW Bitchof,Hogan,Flare,Dusty,and Then Vince Let Him Vent In WWF thats How The Attitude Era Got Started It Started Being About Tallent Not Pollitics, And Now WWE is Basically The Thing S C Hated About WCW
Haas and Benjamin have charisma. It's called TALENT. They have ring charisma. They're fun to watch, they're FANTASTIC at what they do, and they're just great. Ring of Honor is proof of that. You don't need to have mic skills if people know that the moment you step in the ring, they're in for a treat.
@3dEnthusiast as much as I do agree with you. The bottom line is the WWE is a mass market. Mass markets are never for purists and elite. It is always watered down. It's that way because it makes money.
People would be a lot less angry with WWE if they just accepted that is what they want to be. Stop trying to force it to be something else.
Charlie is 100% right about wwe's lack of effort in the tag team and mid card belts they really don't matter anymore and thats one of the main reasons why I don't watch anymore...if you only build the main event guys for a ppv and their match sucks your fucked because they don't have real tag teams anymore or mid card feuds you care about(it's just a guy wins the belt and then loses it and repeat)
This interview is hilarious, Charlie thinks pro wrestling is based on all athletics, dude learn the history of the biz, you need CHARISMA, you gotta get OVER, gotta have a GIMMICK, you got to DRAW, face it Charlie you had ZERO of the four. I do agree with most but you prolly so full of yourself you didnt learn the history, now I know why Shelton got held back.
@brethart87 you misunderstood him. He was saying the creative team doesn't know how to write for athletes, he never said pro wrestling is based on athletics. The man is an experienced veteran and I dont think he needs you or me to tell him how to be successful in the wrestling business. Randy Blandy Boring Orton has ZERO charisma and he's a top guy now and Charlie can mop the floor with him in the ring. To be a top guy in WWE now u just only need to have good looks and memorize your lines well.
If WWE creative is sooooooooo bad how is the WWE still breaking records? I mean seriously? Bottom line guy CANT DRAW! There is a Indy fed drawing 50 people a month off Indy guys, the promotor pays this jerk $750 plus trans and hotel and $500 extra to promote him and guess what? He draws 50 people, YOU CAN ROLL CHARLIE IN SHIT AND PUT HIM IN A COW PASTURE AND HE WONT DRAW A F'N FLY!
@brethart87 Breaking records? Thats laughable. They havent even broke the wrestlemania attendance record of 93,000 that they claim to hold. Their buyrates are tanking, yeah Mania might have got a million buys but thats solely bc of The Rock and not bc of any of the current talent. House shows are not selling out and ratings are about the same maybe even less than 10 years ago. So please explain how this genius creative team is breaking records? By putting more people to sleep during their shows?
@brethart87 And of course Charlie's not drawing in indy feds b/c HE WASN'T USED PROPERLY BY THE GENIUSES AT WWE CREATIVE!!!! I'M SURE BRYAN DANIELSON WONT BE ABLE TO DRAW 50 PEOPLE NOW EITHER BC HE'S TREATED LIKE SHIT. THE LEAD COMMENTATOR REFERS TO HIM AS A DORK!! HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSE TO CARE AS A FAN AND GIVE A SHIT IF THE BRAIN SURGEONS IN CREATIVE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT EITHER???????????!!!!!!!!!!!
@Mr1990Noah he has wrestling talent, and plenty of it. but he isnt an entertainer, he cant cut a promo to save his life. and right or wrong, thats what wwe is looking for these days. look at their top stars, john cena and the miz. Are these guys going to go down as the top wrestlers? I dont think so.
I mean. . they have one of the top wrestlers today in Daniel Bryan, and he is jobbing out the sheamus most weeks. And dont get me started on them releasing Low Ki (kaval)
How Haas and Shelton never got the recognition their abilities deserve is beyond me.
It seems the WWE don't care as much about the actual match quality anymore. All the build up to a huge paper view match then we have to watch boring ass Cena
@matyelpelado A lot people think that but I member when he got that push like when he had those matches with Triple H and was intercontinetal champ I think he seemed pretty alright to me. I mean he aint great, but the WWE could of worked harder to work around that so his in ring ability could be noticed. Most of the younger fans will likely grow to solely support a person based on their charisma no matter how bad they are in the ring probably.
@kingdotian1 i know, even if they don't have much charisma they are entertaining to watch in the ring. but most people that became world champs had both charisma and in-ring skills.
I think Haas is right to an extent. They had him do an impersonation gimmick just to get a crowd reaction, as opposed to putting him in a feud or angle. That's the problem these days, no decent midcard feuds are happening. Everyone just trades wins all the time with no real direction in the majority of cases.
Its a shame because Haas and Benjamin were awesome.
The thing about WWE is that they don't know how to cultivate tag teams anymore. Now they just throw together any two wrestlers who may not even be compatible with one another.
I wouldn't necessarily say that, WWE has had pretty good teams come up in recent years. The main problem is that they always seem to break them up just when things start getting interesting.
La Resistance, Cade & Murdock, Hart Dynasty, WGTT, The Colons, The Guerreros, Cryme Tyme, London & Kendrick & 3 Minute Warning are all examples of WWEs bad habit of breaking teams up too early. These teams were all killed just as they were starting to push off.
@7Rayo13 I may have misspoke. I didn't mean WWE didn't have the talent to do so. WWE has had some pretty good tag teams but they haven't showcased it in last 2 or 3 years with the exception of Hart Dynasty. I also agree with your point about WWE breaking up stable tag teams at the most critical point (i.e. WGTT, Hart Dynasty, Mercury & Morrison). The sad thing is from the teams you mentioned ONLY 5 are still employed (Chavo, Smith, Kidd, Primo, JTG) and they're not even being utilized.
I didn't mention MNM because that really wasn't a WWE creative decision as it was more a business one. Mercury was about to be suspended for drugs and was constantly fighting with Morrison, so they were broken up. They had the small reunion after Mercury's suspension but the team couldn't be saved.
It's a constant complaint by many talented wrestlers, WWE creative is garbage. But Vince seems to like how things are going so the product will continue to suffer.
@7Rayo13 I really miss the tag team division so much, right now its dead as hell. I have never seen the division as dead as it is now. I hope they fix it soon, I understand that tag teams dont last forever, but give them time to be a team, and when the time is right, break up a team and then they can go to their individual careers, but give them a chance to really shine and see what they got first.
nope that's too hard for WWE to recognize, hell they rarely have competition for the IC or US Titles and that's where some of the most popular wrestlers first made their mark (Bret, HBK, Austin, Rock, Angle & Triple H) all won and had feuds involving the IC title before jumping to World Title status, now the only titles they bother with two World Titles, which is one too many in my opinion.
@7Rayo13 I hear ya on that, it is very sad that they barely recognize those titles anymore. I can see why they are unifying titles, back in the day when the IC, US, and European titles meant something and having those titles was a sign that you were one step closer to the main event scene, they really need to go back and study their history and do what has made them so successful in the past.
@7Rayo13 Thank god for tna who has a tag team divison. tna has ink ink, murphy and gunner, beer money, guns, gen me a tag team divison that is good. wwe and vince doesn't care about tag teams they have satino and kozvol lol. the women's divison in tna is better than wwe. tna has sarita, rosita, mickie tara, madison, angelina love, and winter. wwe is joke!
@MrDivalover1 You know what else is a joke... the womens division in professional wrestling... they go for looks over in ring ability... for the most part people just watch it for the TnA... and I dont mean total nonstop action... they try so hard... some of em even have some pretty nice move sets when they dont botch em... but in reality the pretty girl always gets the push over the ugly heel who has more wrestling talent in her pinky than the other chick has in her whole smokin hot body...
@Dwiz316 I know people on here that defend wwe divas in 2011 i laugh my ass off. k2 bellas maryse rosa layla are good looking but are terrible in ring and should have been fired years ago.
For people defending WWE creative and saying Hass "just couldn't get over", remember WWE got a fucking midget and Kali over despite the fact that neither can wrestle or speak english, the main reason is because creative gave them T.V time on a constant bases, put them in important angles and invested actual time and care in there characters, Hass was given non of these things.
@TheDalinkwent You're right. Anyone or anything can get over with a WWE push. WWE can push a log of shit and it would get over. Problem is, WWE pushes who THEY want to push, and often times not who the fans NATURALLY get behind, this is why Drew McIntyre was pushed and Carlito (after his initial singles push) was not. You'd think they'd of learned with Austin, a guy who got over naturally and who the office originally didn't have faith in to be a main eventer but were forced to push eventually
Unfortunately it's because Haas can't get over with the crowd. That's one more aspect aside from wrestling skills. He is a really good worker but if youre not over with the crowd, it's basically going down. Shelton was good and was over with the momma's boy gimmick and got released, now that was stupid. Charlie Haas, much respect for you, but wrestling is a business too.
@yokiisthename if the wwe really wanted too they could have gotton haas over. the wwe is great at brainwashing there fans to likeing who they want them too, just look at cena and batista. they didnt focus on haas enough
While I agree Charlie may have not been good enough ON THE MIC to be World Champion but hell even Great Khali got a few month title reign & he can't even speak english OR wrestle so Charlie could of been a great top Mid Card talent. Long IC/US title runs or finding a tag partner that can talk better to win the tag belts again as YOU can have the best ideas for yourself but if creative tells you to f**K off then you can't do much about it.
Creative not knowing how to write for the guy has nothing to do with him being athletic like he's saying here. That doesn't even make any sense, there's lots of guys that are athletic and successful in the wwe. A more likely reason is that he is not very charismatic, and can't come up with great ideas himself for his character and present those ideas to the higher ups in a appealing fashion... Not dissing the guy, I enjoy his work. Just saying.
So in other words He wanted ALL the benefits like ME talent gets without DOING ANY Work yeah dont work that way. You have to get Over with the Crowd and do some off screen work ex. Promoting. WWE is just not in the ring and on screen its off screen as well
The hell is Haas so bitter about? Yikes this guys a joke who never amounted to anything and he's blaming someone else for his short comings. Get real Haas, that's not how the real world works.
@Konni1969 Hornswoggle, for as silly as ridiculous he is, has always been more over then Haas. Sad fact for poor Charlie. Looks like Charles isn't in charge in this case.
I don't care how many thumbs down I get, I thought his imitation gimmick was very impressive. I've never really seen a wrestler use other wreslter's movesets so well.
ManicRaider 6 days ago
the interviwer has a gay accent. i mean WTF
GoldGodzilla 1 week ago
@GoldGodzilla
He's English.
MidnighWolf 1 week ago
@MidnighWolf For an English guy, thats still pretty gay.
BUNCECENTRAL 1 week ago
@BUNCECENTRAL
You obviously never been to england..they all sound like that...
emurami 1 week ago
@emurami I am in England right now
BUNCECENTRAL 6 days ago
@emurami no they don't, there are several different English accents, you mean to tell me that someone with a Cockney English accent sounds like someone who does not?
SadisticScott 4 days ago
8 dislikes by Jillian Garcia
bLuDcLoT06 1 week ago
@bLuDcLoT06 Who the fuck is Jillian Garcia? IT'S LILIAN
SadisticScott 4 days ago
I get the impression that Charlie Haas would of been happier if he had went into MMA.
Wes919 2 weeks ago
@Wes919 Or just went to Japan and competed in Puro
SadisticScott 4 days ago
Charlie Hass......the WWE is not the amateurs. WTF are you talking about? The Creative Team doesn't know how to write for division one athletes? Give me a break!! That is one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever listened 2 in a shoot interview in my life. Charlie Hass is a great wrestler with a ton of talent, but sometimes he makes ridiculous comments in shoot interviews that have no place in shoot interviews whatsoever. Professional wrestling & amateur wrestling are two separate entities
lildwayne21 4 weeks ago
@lildwayne21 Yes, but there are those of us who remember when pro wrestling was taken quite seriously. It was covered in SPORTS pages, and treated as such. Yes, it was entertainment, but like a good movie, it didn't try to point out that it was "fake".
josephD32 2 weeks ago
@josephD32 I realize that. Hell, professional wrestling used to be taken so seriously back in the 70s that there was even a good wrestling magazine out back then called "Wrestling World Magazine" if I I recall correctly. I remember when professional wrestling was taken seriously Joseph. I'm not immune to when it was covered in sports pages, you can turn off the caps button, but unfortunately those days are over. Nobody covers wrestling in sports pages anymore.
lildwayne21 2 weeks ago
@josephD32 You know why nobody covers wrestling in sports pages anymore Joseph? Because its not as entertaining as it used to be. In the 80s, 70s, 90s and during the Monday Night Wars, they used to cover wrestling in sports pages all the time. Not anymore though. People wised up, guys got smart and started learning about the business, the storylines got stale and went to hell in a handbasket, and now nobody barely ever covers it in sports pages anymore.
lildwayne21 2 weeks ago
@josephD32 When is the last time you saw a sports page writeup for a wrestling event fam? Unless its a house show writeup highly or some type of interview for publicity purposes, highly unlikely that you're going to see one today.
lildwayne21 2 weeks ago
@lildwayne21 People don't take wrestling seriously, mainly because wrestling doesn't take itself seriously. Hell, WWE tries not to call itself "wrestling" at all. It puts a lot of us on the Indies in an odd spot, because you make it to the top. Once you do, tho, you become disillusioned with what wrestling has become. People "wised up" because WWE and TNA have went out of their way to actually tell people it's a work.
josephD32 2 weeks ago
@josephD32 Yeah, but you can't only put all the blame of WWE and TNA for telling people that wrestling is a work, you mean to tell me, that guys like Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alverez didn't have a role in that either?
SadisticScott 4 days ago
@SadisticScott This is true. However, Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez aren't on WWE television or the WWE website, not only telling people it's a work but often showing how it's a work. Most fans who even know who those guys are pretty much have a basic idea of how wrestling works anyway. Those two are more like the magazines and websites that review movies or talk about the actors when they're out and about. They're not in the movie screwing it up for you while you're watching it.
josephD32 3 days ago
@lildwayne21 Yes, I realize that wrestling is "entertainment", but you wouldn't see another form of entertainment like movies (good ones, anyway) going out of their way to tell you that the guy killed in the plane crash isn't really dead. We know he, the actor, is alive and well, but the character is dead. If wrestling took their characters half as seriously as movies did, we wouldn't have this issue. Charlie Haas was a division one athlete - portray him as such. Simple.
josephD32 2 weeks ago
@josephD32
At the heights WWE are at, they simply cannot take themselves seriously and call it Wrestling, because of the age of the Internet, everyone and their Mother knows what goes on behind the scenes and how it all works. WWE would get nothing but ridicule if they took themselves 100% serious. Everything changes in this Universe and you either adapt with it or die.
Subliminallll 2 days ago
@Subliminallll the funny thing about that is, that the "heights" that WWE are at are down FAR from even the late 1980's when they were running three rosters, running and selling out three houses in different cities each night. In many ways, business now is down.
As for taking themselves 100% seriously, that's not what I meant. Be entertaining, just don't advertise that it's a work. Hell, people have known wrestling is a work for nearly a century.
josephD32 8 hours ago
Lol at ANYONE who thinks Haas has Cena level talent. And LMFAO at anyone that thinks Benjamin has any charisma. Dude was pushed big time, he got back to back wins over HHH and he flopped. I H8 internet smarks. You've ruined the product and industry. If people like the IWC ran a promotion, the promotion would be dead quick. RoH doesn't grow because it doesn't draw. You dense fanboys wouldn't know talent if it skull fucked you.
jcrek 1 month ago
@jcrek
K.
Nobody cares about your opinion.
Bye.
CMPunkMassaroSVR 1 month ago
@CMPunkMassaroSVR It troubled you enough to reply. You obviously cared. Isn't that sweet? I certainly appreciate it. K. Bye.
jcrek 1 month ago
I enjoy pro wrestling
petertaboni 1 month ago
So Haas is in ROH right? I know ROH is solvent enough to offer contracts but wondering if he was ever considered to go to Impact Wrestling? Surprised they didn't attempt to sign him, given his youth and name value.
peterp21 3 months ago
@peterp21
He's like 40 now
SirOxide 1 month ago
Ego manic and he's a Job Squad bum ass lame. Get over it groupie.
TBelvy420 4 months ago
Thing is bookers used to be in complete control of the shows and it was the wrestlers who got them self over. Now the booker has taken a back seat to the hollywood writers which screws the product up because writers don't have a feel for the business and the reason bookers do is because they are usually wrestlers or retired wrestlers. thats one of the main problems with wrestling today though there are many other reasons
cactus9889 4 months ago
now i realize why WWE has been shit for the last few years and he is right about WWE not giveing the tag division a big enough push beacuse the tag titles wernt important for a while
legoking58 4 months ago
Is this guy a fool? This isn't sports, it's entertainment! If you are going on tv you have to realize it. Of Course there is politics...it's entertainment!
thewolfmanchu 4 months ago
@thewolfmanchu *COUGH* idiot. *COUGH*
CMPunkMassaroSVR 1 month ago
He is speaking the truth ROH and the Haas and Benjamin tag team is a perfect combination. To wrestlers in the WWE w/ pending "Future Endevors" please SAVE YOUR MONEY.
blackstruggle77 4 months ago
lawl at what I presume is Charlie Haas' family as he accents the word family
SmexyKream 5 months ago
charlie Haas sucked, period. Shelton was great
Palsharpton 5 months ago
It's funny...for tas long as I've been a fan I've never heard ONE bad thing about Dave Finlay. The guy has survived several different eras of the sport and is still a respected ring general. Those are few and far between. It's a shame that his old school way of thinking led him to make one bad decision at a friggin house show and because WWE is so political, they care more about their sponsors than their loyal employees...so Finlay is gone. Fuck this company!
Nordfelt 5 months ago 4
R.E.S.P.E.C.T
XcXtrippyXcX 5 months ago
He's awesome. I love that he doesn't hold back.
supermanvenom2 5 months ago
I'm glad he's the tag champ in ROH
CaBr0n76 5 months ago
WOW! I haven't seen "The Haas" in a loooong time. Team Angle!
I'm glad that he's put together a life after wrestling
vincentrich 6 months ago
what is wrong with the wwe never gave haas the us title of ic title.
mkeywork 6 months ago
@mkeywork can u shut up just becase he is talking about wwe does not mean u have too
shina17able 4 months ago
@shina17able yes i do ego like hhh make me sick wwe is garbage
mkeywork 4 months ago
Amen Charlie Haas! This is why I don't watch WWE anymore, instead of pushing REAL WRESTLERS, and guys with talent like you and Shelton, young guys who have real potential to help the business they push guys who can't put on a good wrestling match and are losers.... like cena and all of these 3rd generation guys.
TWFlintNC 6 months ago 2
@TWFlintNC Cena is the FURTHEST THING from a loser. Don't talk out of your ass like that. His skill isn't the best but he is successful as a true entertainer and does it well. If you are looking for TRUE wrestling skill, watch college wrestling or Olympic wrestling. Its about entertainment! I didn't like Cena at first but his skill as a captivating and successful talent is top notch. I like him and respect what he's done. When you've done 1/4 as much, call me.
snarlingrabiddog5150 5 months ago
ROH is perfect for Haas really, just gets the chance to show just how good a wrestler he is. Plus his chemistry as a friend and a team with Benjamin is pretty great.
TopDog69 6 months ago
I'm glad he and Benjamin are happy now.
MobKnowledge 6 months ago 2
"You're OUT OF LINE!"
Frizz90 6 months ago
@Nepthu you ever notice how when Haas and Benjamin came back as a tag team they had them job to crime time, when everyone knows Benjamin and haas can put a better show than Cena can if they got Cena's push. They always had haas and Benjamin job to shitty wrestlers that they could outwrestle . It's bullshit they should have been the new face of the wwe with cm punk and Bryan danielson . Not Cena Orton Triple H or Edge they've had there time
louiefoo 6 months ago 9
@louiefoo
na orton still has his time.
TeslaDRay 2 months ago
The politics he's talking about exist in almost every job. It's funny that he says they don't know how to write for athletes "like us." They write fine for everyone else, don't they?
Nepthu 6 months ago
@Nepthu Ever listened to George Carlin?
CMY187 6 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
charlie hass sux the wwe rules
MultiHostage 6 months ago
@MultiHostage fanboy
Bale4Bond 6 months ago
I respect the hell out of this guy for what he did there. Fair play to him. It is great to hear about someone else who isn't into ass kissing to get ahead. That has never been my style and I appreciate the hell out of others who have this mindset. Not an easy way to get ahead.
theunholycrown666 7 months ago 7
The people who have been exploited and underhanded by the WWE management need to form what other people form for such bad business practice to their employees; a union. Benjamin, Haas, Carlito, Punk, Truth, Hardy, James...and a few others; they need to be the first people to form some sort of union to look out for the best interests of wrestlers being mistreated to taken advantage of. Until that happens, it will continue!
VenVile 7 months ago 3
Haas had a 4-way match in 1PW against Samoa Joe, AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. In that match, away from WWE, he displayed amazing wrestling skill, especially submission, that he never could in WWE. Haas and his tag team partner Shelton Benjamin are now in ROH, where they could finally show the fans what they could do in the ring and be appreciated for it.
Ring Of Honor respects professional wrestling and those who could do it. In ROH, its not sports entertainment, but an entertaining sport
CMY187 7 months ago
BENJAMIN AND HAUSS HAVE PRIDE THEY DONT JOBBER BECAUSE THEIR BETTER THAN THAT
SLAMASTERK24 7 months ago
What's with all the annoying screaming in the background?
scandlabra 7 months ago
Today it seems WWE looks to hire comedians, dancers, leprechauns, ex-reality tv stars, and some roided & monotoned amazingly boring creatures... Mason Ryan, Otunga, Jackson etc... WWE has some great talent, but nobody seems to care as much for the reason that they don't have a voice, a valued championship tag team Intercontinental etc..., a story line, TV time, and most importantly the holy grail that is the MICROPHONE. Oh, and by the way HASS kicked and still kicks major ass!
TheBoogie24seven 7 months ago
Cheers to for screwing Vince for once and using him as an atm.
ClipCollector 7 months ago
respect for Haas
MachineD24 7 months ago
haas and benjamin were an awesome team
illyrian4life 7 months ago
It sucks that Shelton and Charlie never got used more than they did. At least Shelton got the IC and US title, Charlie didnt get shit. They both deserved to win atleast one World championship
thebeasttony 7 months ago
So the Conclusion is not Vinnie Mac's fault its those dummasses Michael Hayes and that Rat guy Kevin Dunn and that "Yes Man" John Laurianitis like Punk said
SinCity2100 7 months ago
@SinCity2100 No. Anyone with any sense whatsoever doesnt waste energy blaming Cena or Hogan or WWE creative or Eric Bischoff or *insert anti christ de juer* for the state of the industry.
They blame Vince. And rightly so.
6steveo9 7 months ago
@6steveo9 stop taking it so seriously. Wrestling is supposed to be fun and u marks are taking all the fun out of it. Lighten up and watch it or dont watch it.
1981bigdee 7 months ago
@1981bigdee The fact that you posted "Wrestling is supposed to be fun" in response to criticism of Vince is actually laughable.
Tell that to Vince.
And if I was a mark I would believe everything I read on the net and be one of those who blame all the wrong people for the state of what passes for Pro Wrestling these day.
Oh and btw, marks pay for tickets. Marks make the business tick.
Or they used to before they started ignoring the fans.
6steveo9 7 months ago
@1981bigdee And another thing. Maybe if, like during the boom periods, people took wrestling more seriously, especially those running it, we wouldnt be discussing Charlie Haas on some podcast or radio show; he'd be employed.
Does it not marry up for you no? They moved away from traditions, from fundimentals and the business has tanked.
Its not a coincidence.
6steveo9 7 months ago
@6steveo9 Like I said, Lighten up. That you obviously got so upset over my comment kinda proves its point.
1981bigdee 7 months ago
@1981bigdee Proves it. What exactly? That I dont like all the ballbags serving agendas against the likes of Hogan or Cena when in actual fact the real enemy is someone else?
These same folks who claim to love wrestling? But arent interested in what ails it? Only interested in w/e gets hits on their website.
And here you are acting like Im the one with a problem.
You do realise that there would be no industry if it wasnt for folks who are/were passionate about it?
6steveo9 7 months ago
@1981bigdee That love sponge guy said the same stuff you are to Jim Cornette.
"dont take it too seriously" "lighten up"
That was in the middle of shitting on the business by mocking the serious nature of what these guys do.
If you're content to be continuously treated like an idiot for you patronage of Raw or Impact go ahead, just dont expect is all to be flurodated, TV downloaded, minions.
6steveo9 7 months ago
Gotta respect the guy for this
totallykyle111 7 months ago
Now see, if we had been given THIS Charlie Haas, he would have had a much better chance of getting over!
MisterBoswell 7 months ago
there's that "john laurinaitis" guy mentioned again. guess CM Punk was right
tacospartan 7 months ago
@tacospartan John Laurinaitis is the executive vice president and talent relations at WWE. He is also the Hall of Famer Animal
WrestlingReviewerx 7 months ago
@WrestlingReviewerx No, but you're close. Road Warrior Animal is JOE Lauranaitis. JOHN Lauranaitis is executive VP and head of Talent Relations in WWE. The two are brothers.
TheJohnnyCotts 7 months ago
@WrestlingReviewerx I stand corrected, I thought it was Animal was John because I said an interview with James Laurinaitis and just thought it was Animal
WrestlingReviewerx 7 months ago
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@WrestlingReviewerx I stand corrected, I thought it was Animal was John because I said an interview with James Laurinaitis and just thought it was Animal
WrestlingReviewerx 7 months ago
@tacospartan John Laurinaitis was a piece of shit way before CM Punk was in the WWE
ohnestaeb86 7 months ago
the interview sounds like jim,from destructoid
floeticdeath 8 months ago
Well said charlie!
bmoviefanrude 8 months ago
haas is a good wrestler and i suppose athelete as well. he has no charisma and mic skills. it's hard to write for that. of course, wwe can't write for people who have charisma and skills. they don't know how to utilize talent or choose not to. but sorry charlie hard to write a story for a guy who has no mic skill. i do enjoy your matches.
Fektthis 8 months ago
@Fektthis It's actually pretty easy to do. Heyman did it all the time in old ECW, and WCW even did it with Goldberg. All they have to do is let them do the matches, and, at most, give them only a few words or let someone else do the talking for him. They had that when they made Kurt Angle his and Shelton's mentor.
The WWE creative team just tries to be too hard to soap opera or sideshow guys, and try to make guys be the way they want to be, instead of who they really are.
thatonedude675 8 months ago
@thatonedude675 yea, that's usually a traditional face type character. wrestling today doesn't really have those. benoit would have been a good example. well, before he, you know. all the guys want to be cool bad guys though and that doesn't work if you can't use the mic. haas and benjamin as a face tag team would be way over, if tag team wrestling wasn't completely dead in wwe. it's more a sign of the times i suppose. guys with skill can get over if they keep quite and let em win.
Fektthis 8 months ago
Well WWE says they fired Jim Cornette. Jim Cornette says that the WWE gave him his parole. Sounds like Haas is right along those lines.
newfrickinshow 8 months ago
@rtfuhj howbout these athletes go for mma brands like ufc or strikeforce. that way they dont have to kiss ass to prove their worth
kentutlagibest 8 months ago
i mean this is just a great interview man ..like he totally fuckin shoots on wwe..fuck that he shits on them..hard man n he sounds like he really does hate wwe for passin him off like hes not shit
PhXSuNs6281 8 months ago
They dont write for athletes asshole, they write for entertainers, and rattling off your accomplishments in sports makes you sound like an asshole jabroni!
CheapJabroni 8 months ago
pure facts wwe fucking sucks! you gotta kiss hhh's ass and stroke vince's dick! go to tna! damn proud of you haas good role model!
rtfuhj 8 months ago
He has some good points. I am a fan of WWE, but still I long for the days where the wrestlers had more input in their characters and interviews...
burth179 8 months ago
It's all good. I don't remember anyone ever saying "Gotta run home to see Charlie Haas wrestle."
bLacksheep988 8 months ago
never was and never will be! roh is creative right?
rochedoxxx 8 months ago
WOW! If only Haas had known before that pro wrestling is a cut throat business. Writings been on the wall for 30 years now-get a grip.
sweeneysister 8 months ago
Haas and Benjamin are doing better in ROH, they are the ROH Tag Team Champions.
Mistertbones 9 months ago
anyone watch the episode of southpark with vince mcmahon init? s14 i think?
guyheero 9 months ago
if you want to be a wrestler all you need to know is how to act!!!!!!
TrollingPatrolling 9 months ago
@TrollingPatrolling - As sad as it may sound, I think you're exactly right. Although its disappointing for kids who wish to enter the business who may be amazing athletes but simply aren't comfortable on the mic.
intheTea04 9 months ago
@intheTea04 Well, the thing is you don't have to go out there having a blueprint for how you are going to handle the mic. It all depends on how it blends in with your character. Shelton Benjamin I thought was an amazing athlete and whatever little he did on the mic complemented him very well. WWE could have slowly pushed him to the no.1 contention spot, dissapoint him a great number of times. ( Vince Screwing him and shyt like that) and finally he would one day become the wwe champ. ( continued)
thegiftedmedia 9 months ago
@intheTea04 ( continued) That's how you write and build up a great story. These days, no effort is put into the mix of the character and anyone can become the champ.
thegiftedmedia 9 months ago
Wow, I just gained a lot more respect for him.
Niroticpogo 9 months ago 45
@Niroticpogo listen to all the beautiful babies in the background.
22centman36 6 months ago
amen to that Charlie !!!!
barbarian95man 9 months ago
Way to go Charlie for not kissing ass. I should go buy one of his smoothies.
kooltomax 9 months ago
The fact that you honestly think haas is a star is laughable, the guy has the charisma of a 2x4 and is soooooo cocky that his ego needs a zip code no wonder even Vince couldnt make a dime off this guy. Keep believing his underachievement cries on creative, Steve Austin got held back and didnt cry, he laced his boots up and became a star
brethart87 9 months ago
@brethart87 he is a PRO WRESTLER you asshole not a "star" like john cena. who would you rather watch in a ring haas vs benjamin or haas vs cena?? if your answer is cena you ARE NOT a pro wrestling fan and therefore your opinion is meaningless! go watch that garbage called wwe or tna
jayW817 9 months ago
@brethart87 STone Cold Did Cry In ECW About WCW Bitchof,Hogan,Flare,Dusty,and Then Vince Let Him Vent In WWF thats How The Attitude Era Got Started It Started Being About Tallent Not Pollitics, And Now WWE is Basically The Thing S C Hated About WCW
MyBloodbrother 9 months ago
@MyBloodbrother I agree 100% with you. I am just saying gimmick and charisma will take you futher than athlectic talent in wrestling
brethart87 9 months ago
You go Haas! Don't be kissing that McMahon/HHH ass like those jobbers Cena and Miz.
halleberrybabydaddy 9 months ago
DAMN HE'S BURYINGGGGGGGGGGGG ALL OF EM
jamalk 9 months ago
Haas and Benjamin have charisma. It's called TALENT. They have ring charisma. They're fun to watch, they're FANTASTIC at what they do, and they're just great. Ring of Honor is proof of that. You don't need to have mic skills if people know that the moment you step in the ring, they're in for a treat.
3dEnthusiast 9 months ago 26
@3dEnthusiast as much as I do agree with you. The bottom line is the WWE is a mass market. Mass markets are never for purists and elite. It is always watered down. It's that way because it makes money.
People would be a lot less angry with WWE if they just accepted that is what they want to be. Stop trying to force it to be something else.
thatjimguy 6 months ago
You and Shelton should have been fighters Haas
johnnyrainbow50 9 months ago
Charlie is 100% right about wwe's lack of effort in the tag team and mid card belts they really don't matter anymore and thats one of the main reasons why I don't watch anymore...if you only build the main event guys for a ppv and their match sucks your fucked because they don't have real tag teams anymore or mid card feuds you care about(it's just a guy wins the belt and then loses it and repeat)
nevertweet015 9 months ago
Sorry, Shelton was always fucking lame
pladampa 10 months ago
This interview is hilarious, Charlie thinks pro wrestling is based on all athletics, dude learn the history of the biz, you need CHARISMA, you gotta get OVER, gotta have a GIMMICK, you got to DRAW, face it Charlie you had ZERO of the four. I do agree with most but you prolly so full of yourself you didnt learn the history, now I know why Shelton got held back.
brethart87 10 months ago
@brethart87 you misunderstood him. He was saying the creative team doesn't know how to write for athletes, he never said pro wrestling is based on athletics. The man is an experienced veteran and I dont think he needs you or me to tell him how to be successful in the wrestling business. Randy Blandy Boring Orton has ZERO charisma and he's a top guy now and Charlie can mop the floor with him in the ring. To be a top guy in WWE now u just only need to have good looks and memorize your lines well.
halleberrybabydaddy 9 months ago
@halleberrybabydaddy
If WWE creative is sooooooooo bad how is the WWE still breaking records? I mean seriously? Bottom line guy CANT DRAW! There is a Indy fed drawing 50 people a month off Indy guys, the promotor pays this jerk $750 plus trans and hotel and $500 extra to promote him and guess what? He draws 50 people, YOU CAN ROLL CHARLIE IN SHIT AND PUT HIM IN A COW PASTURE AND HE WONT DRAW A F'N FLY!
brethart87 9 months ago
@brethart87 Breaking records? Thats laughable. They havent even broke the wrestlemania attendance record of 93,000 that they claim to hold. Their buyrates are tanking, yeah Mania might have got a million buys but thats solely bc of The Rock and not bc of any of the current talent. House shows are not selling out and ratings are about the same maybe even less than 10 years ago. So please explain how this genius creative team is breaking records? By putting more people to sleep during their shows?
halleberrybabydaddy 9 months ago
@brethart87 And of course Charlie's not drawing in indy feds b/c HE WASN'T USED PROPERLY BY THE GENIUSES AT WWE CREATIVE!!!! I'M SURE BRYAN DANIELSON WONT BE ABLE TO DRAW 50 PEOPLE NOW EITHER BC HE'S TREATED LIKE SHIT. THE LEAD COMMENTATOR REFERS TO HIM AS A DORK!! HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSE TO CARE AS A FAN AND GIVE A SHIT IF THE BRAIN SURGEONS IN CREATIVE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT EITHER???????????!!!!!!!!!!!
halleberrybabydaddy 9 months ago
Charlie sounds like he really loves himself and is quite proud of himself.lmfao...i agree with everything he says tho...
skill14 11 months ago
haha love listening to shoot interviews with bitter ex stars.
rocks
diddydid 11 months ago 2
@diddydid he has the right to be bitter though. he had talent and WWE never did much with him
Mr1990Noah 10 months ago
@Mr1990Noah he has wrestling talent, and plenty of it. but he isnt an entertainer, he cant cut a promo to save his life. and right or wrong, thats what wwe is looking for these days. look at their top stars, john cena and the miz. Are these guys going to go down as the top wrestlers? I dont think so.
I mean. . they have one of the top wrestlers today in Daniel Bryan, and he is jobbing out the sheamus most weeks. And dont get me started on them releasing Low Ki (kaval)
diddydid 10 months ago
@diddydid Definantly mate, thats 100% and thats is, for good or bad, how pro wrestling works these days.
CamBrody 10 months ago
WWE needs to push tag team like back in the day.
LIT0187 11 months ago
charlie haas rules..screw gay ass WWE..its shit and for kids
jgoth08 11 months ago
The yesturday machine is calling F U Charlie wrestling is fake duhhhhh
englishjoe70 11 months ago
true wwe doesnt know how to write :(
Blackjesus3 1 year ago 4
Charlie Haas IS wrestling!!
MisterChris216 1 year ago
How Haas and Shelton never got the recognition their abilities deserve is beyond me.
It seems the WWE don't care as much about the actual match quality anymore. All the build up to a huge paper view match then we have to watch boring ass Cena
kingdotian1 1 year ago 61
@kingdotian1 Especially, Shelton.
thegiftedmedia 9 months ago
@kingdotian1 Lol, *pay per view ;)
l14mh3nr9 9 months ago
@l14mh3nr9 Lol I do not know why i wrote it that way haha
kingdotian1 9 months ago
@kingdotian1 shelton benjamin has the in-ring abilities but not the charisma in my opinion
matyelpelado 8 months ago
@matyelpelado A lot people think that but I member when he got that push like when he had those matches with Triple H and was intercontinetal champ I think he seemed pretty alright to me. I mean he aint great, but the WWE could of worked harder to work around that so his in ring ability could be noticed. Most of the younger fans will likely grow to solely support a person based on their charisma no matter how bad they are in the ring probably.
kingdotian1 8 months ago
Plus, I mean Benoit was great in the ring and he wasnt the most charasmatic but definately one of my favourites to watch back in the day.
kingdotian1 8 months ago
@kingdotian1 i know, even if they don't have much charisma they are entertaining to watch in the ring. but most people that became world champs had both charisma and in-ring skills.
matyelpelado 8 months ago
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@kingdotian1 He murdered his family I really don't know how you can watch his matches and not think about what he done
kf932009 8 months ago
@kingdotian1 Thank god for Ring of Honor eh?
shaolinfreak9475 7 months ago 3
Hot damn Charlie.o_O
rkoguy 1 year ago
I think Haas is right to an extent. They had him do an impersonation gimmick just to get a crowd reaction, as opposed to putting him in a feud or angle. That's the problem these days, no decent midcard feuds are happening. Everyone just trades wins all the time with no real direction in the majority of cases.
Its a shame because Haas and Benjamin were awesome.
corpseyfest 1 year ago 3
The thing about WWE is that they don't know how to cultivate tag teams anymore. Now they just throw together any two wrestlers who may not even be compatible with one another.
lbm1985 1 year ago 2
@lbm1985
I wouldn't necessarily say that, WWE has had pretty good teams come up in recent years. The main problem is that they always seem to break them up just when things start getting interesting.
La Resistance, Cade & Murdock, Hart Dynasty, WGTT, The Colons, The Guerreros, Cryme Tyme, London & Kendrick & 3 Minute Warning are all examples of WWEs bad habit of breaking teams up too early. These teams were all killed just as they were starting to push off.
7Rayo13 1 year ago
@7Rayo13 I may have misspoke. I didn't mean WWE didn't have the talent to do so. WWE has had some pretty good tag teams but they haven't showcased it in last 2 or 3 years with the exception of Hart Dynasty. I also agree with your point about WWE breaking up stable tag teams at the most critical point (i.e. WGTT, Hart Dynasty, Mercury & Morrison). The sad thing is from the teams you mentioned ONLY 5 are still employed (Chavo, Smith, Kidd, Primo, JTG) and they're not even being utilized.
lbm1985 1 year ago
@lbm1985
I didn't mention MNM because that really wasn't a WWE creative decision as it was more a business one. Mercury was about to be suspended for drugs and was constantly fighting with Morrison, so they were broken up. They had the small reunion after Mercury's suspension but the team couldn't be saved.
It's a constant complaint by many talented wrestlers, WWE creative is garbage. But Vince seems to like how things are going so the product will continue to suffer.
7Rayo13 1 year ago
@7Rayo13 I really miss the tag team division so much, right now its dead as hell. I have never seen the division as dead as it is now. I hope they fix it soon, I understand that tag teams dont last forever, but give them time to be a team, and when the time is right, break up a team and then they can go to their individual careers, but give them a chance to really shine and see what they got first.
mobi0501 1 year ago
@mobi0501
nope that's too hard for WWE to recognize, hell they rarely have competition for the IC or US Titles and that's where some of the most popular wrestlers first made their mark (Bret, HBK, Austin, Rock, Angle & Triple H) all won and had feuds involving the IC title before jumping to World Title status, now the only titles they bother with two World Titles, which is one too many in my opinion.
7Rayo13 1 year ago
@7Rayo13 I hear ya on that, it is very sad that they barely recognize those titles anymore. I can see why they are unifying titles, back in the day when the IC, US, and European titles meant something and having those titles was a sign that you were one step closer to the main event scene, they really need to go back and study their history and do what has made them so successful in the past.
mobi0501 1 year ago
@7Rayo13 Thank god for tna who has a tag team divison. tna has ink ink, murphy and gunner, beer money, guns, gen me a tag team divison that is good. wwe and vince doesn't care about tag teams they have satino and kozvol lol. the women's divison in tna is better than wwe. tna has sarita, rosita, mickie tara, madison, angelina love, and winter. wwe is joke!
MrDivalover1 1 year ago
@MrDivalover1
TNA has a tag division that is light years ahead of WWE right now. It's just too bad they keep screwing themselves with their shitty writing.
7Rayo13 1 year ago 2
@MrDivalover1 You know what else is a joke... the womens division in professional wrestling... they go for looks over in ring ability... for the most part people just watch it for the TnA... and I dont mean total nonstop action... they try so hard... some of em even have some pretty nice move sets when they dont botch em... but in reality the pretty girl always gets the push over the ugly heel who has more wrestling talent in her pinky than the other chick has in her whole smokin hot body...
Dwiz316 10 months ago
@Dwiz316 I know people on here that defend wwe divas in 2011 i laugh my ass off. k2 bellas maryse rosa layla are good looking but are terrible in ring and should have been fired years ago.
MrDivalover1 10 months ago
him and shelton are one of the best tag teams all time
flash3999 1 year ago
For people defending WWE creative and saying Hass "just couldn't get over", remember WWE got a fucking midget and Kali over despite the fact that neither can wrestle or speak english, the main reason is because creative gave them T.V time on a constant bases, put them in important angles and invested actual time and care in there characters, Hass was given non of these things.
TheDalinkwent 1 year ago 5
@TheDalinkwent You're right. Anyone or anything can get over with a WWE push. WWE can push a log of shit and it would get over. Problem is, WWE pushes who THEY want to push, and often times not who the fans NATURALLY get behind, this is why Drew McIntyre was pushed and Carlito (after his initial singles push) was not. You'd think they'd of learned with Austin, a guy who got over naturally and who the office originally didn't have faith in to be a main eventer but were forced to push eventually
AceDagger1 1 year ago
Unfortunately it's because Haas can't get over with the crowd. That's one more aspect aside from wrestling skills. He is a really good worker but if youre not over with the crowd, it's basically going down. Shelton was good and was over with the momma's boy gimmick and got released, now that was stupid. Charlie Haas, much respect for you, but wrestling is a business too.
yokiisthename 1 year ago
@yokiisthename if the wwe really wanted too they could have gotton haas over. the wwe is great at brainwashing there fans to likeing who they want them too, just look at cena and batista. they didnt focus on haas enough
kronz21 1 year ago
nobody EVER has anything nice to say about Michael P.S. Hayes, he's universally known as an asshole. P.S. must stand for piece of shit.
TheCroatiaKid 1 year ago
HE AINT LYING
jdmdoorsforever 1 year ago
While I agree Charlie may have not been good enough ON THE MIC to be World Champion but hell even Great Khali got a few month title reign & he can't even speak english OR wrestle so Charlie could of been a great top Mid Card talent. Long IC/US title runs or finding a tag partner that can talk better to win the tag belts again as YOU can have the best ideas for yourself but if creative tells you to f**K off then you can't do much about it.
weaponxrwc 1 year ago
Creative not knowing how to write for the guy has nothing to do with him being athletic like he's saying here. That doesn't even make any sense, there's lots of guys that are athletic and successful in the wwe. A more likely reason is that he is not very charismatic, and can't come up with great ideas himself for his character and present those ideas to the higher ups in a appealing fashion... Not dissing the guy, I enjoy his work. Just saying.
Yoni123 1 year ago
So in other words He wanted ALL the benefits like ME talent gets without DOING ANY Work yeah dont work that way. You have to get Over with the Crowd and do some off screen work ex. Promoting. WWE is just not in the ring and on screen its off screen as well
PEEP4LIFE52 1 year ago
The hell is Haas so bitter about? Yikes this guys a joke who never amounted to anything and he's blaming someone else for his short comings. Get real Haas, that's not how the real world works.
krazygreen 1 year ago
@krazygreen You got no idea. Haas is a real athlete, not a WWE Hornswoggle Clown. Get your head out of the "WWE Universe" Ass.
Konni1969 1 year ago
@Konni1969 Hornswoggle, for as silly as ridiculous he is, has always been more over then Haas. Sad fact for poor Charlie. Looks like Charles isn't in charge in this case.
krazygreen 1 year ago