@thatDUDEoverTHERE010 depending on which one your talking about. ive raced many turbo civics in my turbo ss with only an intake, custom 3.5inch exhaust and gm stg1 and its either been close untill high speeds were i walk away or just walk away from the start.
I seen a few SRT-4s & SSs run against Eks I seen a few SI give it a good run.
I would say a factory turbo or S/C engine would make a better foundation to mod because the internals are stronger although the compression ratio is lower. K20s rated @10:1- 11:1but needed because of the vtec lift thus giving you the hi rpm preformance, Honda doesn't have a factory S/C or turbo engine so, Yea ya can have a good runner wit a civic. The SRT's can be extremely faster.
@Metalhead852 You are right but not any HONDA, The real JDM Sports cars like Skyline R32- 33s GT.
Toyota's, Mitsu,& Mazda just to name a few of the better ones. If you but the old Skyline up against a New Civic SI, the Skyline will probability beat it in the long run. But even Toyota had some good cars back then, I know because I owned a 1976 Celica GT 2.0R, I never got beat by a Civic SI. most of the challenges were Flakey like the civic owners knew that their SI coupe or HB.
@Metalhead852 Challenges I did get were mostly flaky like they knew that their civic was fast but wasn't enough to take on an old tuned JDM Celica GT. I belive that Honda is using Turbo in Acura's but not in HBs like the RSX-Type-s,or the TSX A- spec.The turbos are in the hi end Acuras, SUVs like the MDX, that is a heavier vehicle and AWD too so it would make scense.The lower line of cars HONDA has no factory turboed vehicles. But are good if tuned.
I seen a few SRT-4s & SSs run against EKs I seen a few SI give it a good run. I would say a factory turbo or S/C engine would make a better foundation to mod because the internals are stronger although the compression ratio is lower. K20s rated @10:1- 11:1but needed because of the Vtec lift. but none form the hondas were factory S/C or turbo engines so, Yea ya can have a good runner wit a civic.
I seen a few SRT-4s & SSs run against EKs I seen a few SI give it a good run. I would say a factory turbo or S/C engine would make a better foundation to mod because the internals are stronger although the compression ratio is lower. K20s rated @10:1- 11:1but needed because of the Vtec lift. but none form the hondas were factory S/C or turbo engines so, Yea ya can have a good runner wit a civic.
@zxswaggr what about price u idiot!! the civic si is even more expensive than the cobalt ss. civic= more expensive, slower. cobalt ss= cheaper, faster. hahaha stupid honda drivers!!!
-Cobalt ss/sc and cobalt ss/tc are night and day difference, I have owned them both and a tc tuned alone can keep up or surpasss almost any car from a roll. AWD will take it from dig almost no matter what (Asumming good driver mod)
-Honda SI's are awsome too. I had an EG3 and with Hondata it does move..Fast, faster than most would think. My EG3 passed out at 110k miles probably from me slamming it too hard...
-Forced ind vs NA is fair because they both have their own pros and cons
i have a 2007 SS S/C and its been a good car with not much going wrong with it and its decently fast for a 4 banger but the interior materials would be thrown out in a plastic toy factory in China. besides i bought the car new and i dont know what i was thinking. maybe i had just watched 2 fast 2 furious but im sick of FWD and that wing. time to step up. Im getting a 2005 Audi S4 in Nogaro blue. No more Chevy crap
I have owned 4 GM vehicles and all of them fell to crap under 100k mi. I would never buy another GM vehicle! I have also owned 3 Hondas including my current car a 2010 SI coupe. even if it is not as fast stock as a Cobalt SS It's much more reliable, way better interior, looks a lot better on the exterior and holds it's value! if your just looking for speed then you're an idiot! GM"S SUCK!
@cblt2007 just had a couple of pointers to make here 1 you said a technology packed civic the cobalt runs the same Valve system has the Honda they just call it Eco tec which is variable cam timing based on rpms and oil pressure. Second take a stock civic eg hatchback buy a eBay special turbo kit run like 8lbs of boost and it will smoke a cobalt it would run just about the same hp but weigh hella less. And in my opinion I drive/own 240sxs but a cobalt is still just a domestic trying to be a tune
Yea cobalt need a turbo to make them fast I've seen all motor civic si bolt on n tune runin low 13s n so wat thy spent 2gs its still fast for all motor ya can't talk shit cuz a cobalt without a sc or turbo is gonna be slow lol
@00RegalGSX so lets see hear u have to spend over 2k in bolt ons to beat a stock cobalt? mmm i think ill take the stock cobalt :).. and now lets put those bolt ons and a tune vs a turbo balt. well now the civic still loses. o well handa can try again another time :). no doubt with money they can go fast.. but for every dime u put into the civic put that into the cobalt and THEN see who is still gonna be faster. dollar for dollar the cobalt wins.
Nice run! That's not bad at all for a bolt-on SI. I have a Cobalt SS/SC and it ran low 14s stock, around 100 mph. Now it has a 2.8" pulley, tune, and bolt-ons running 13.5 at 105 mph (need driver mod). I'd say the SI in this vid ought to trap over 100 mph easily. Anyway, good vid.
turboneon....u just prob got ur ass beat by an import n allways bashin on them ..and i do kno about cars more then u think..anyways bye bye bye im done wasten my time with u
@cleank2o actually ive never been beat by a honda. im not bashing on them. im defending the domestics. i just dont understand how all u civic and rsx guys can continue talking shit when all these cars cost almost exactly the same brand new and the hondas get smoked stock vs stock. if u do beat a STOCK srt4 or ss u guys all think ur the shit...even though u have about 2grand in mods just to beat a STOCK car. and then if u lose u guys always say.."oh thats because the other car is turbo".
@TurboNeon185 Cobalt is a 2.4 whit a turbocompresor and only make about 203 hp,, Honda 2.0 liters make 197 hp without turbo or admosferic motor, that call nice tecnology , honda don't make shits like american cars,,the have to pay for quality my friend,.
@niesseur actually new cobalts are a turbocharged 2.0 liter and they make 260hp and more importantly 260ft/lbs of torque compared to the civics 139ft/lbs of torque. the cobalt ur refering to that makes 203hp is a supercharged 2.0 and it still makes 200ft/lbs of torque. thats still alot more than 139ft/lbs. 197hp out of an n/a 2liter is good but id still rather be able to stomp on the gas at 2000rpm and have my car actually go somewhere.
@niesseur you are one of the most stupidist pieces of work i think i have EVER seen on here. first off like turboneon said. its a 2.0 liter. and is supercharged not "turbocomresor" second. the honda makes a BRAKEHORSEPOWER which for all of you that dont know that means that what it makes at the crank! the cobalt comes from the factory with 205 WHEEHORSEPOWER! the cobalt should be rated at like 220-230 if it was BRAKEHORSEPOWER. but unlike honda who have to rate at brake horsepower cuz if....
@niesseur they rated it at wheel horsepower like chevy they would be down in the 170hp range with alot less tq. than the already puny 139.. plz the next time you want to trash talk a brand atleast know what the hell ur talking about. and chevy makes a NA SS vs of the cobalt that comes stock with 176 WHP from the factory. pretty close to ur "nice technology" civic SI.. so idk how nice that technology is.. but it cant be that good. dont make shits like american cars. HA.
obviosly u dnt know much bout cars ask anyone u tune a k20 with hondata flashpro n u gain at leats 30hp to da wheel if not more depending on the tune and mods bye.and i did read what i wrote u must of misunderstood me bye
@cleank2o what r u a teletubby? whats with all the byes? anyway 30 hp is nice. however even 30 hp wont gain u 8mph in ur trap speed. perhaps u do not know much bout cars. anyway bye bye ;-D
i never said i ran a 14.3 with dr i ran on stock tires. i said i ran a 14.0 and a 13.7 with dr the 14.0 was b4 the tune and the 13.7 was after the tune. yo dont get mad cuz ur pos car needs help from a turbo to go fast..peace i ddnt have nothin to prove to u lil kid
@cleank2o re read what i said. i already know what tires u were using on what run. the 14.3@96 was WITH i/h/e and no tune. ur 14.0 flat was WITH i/h/e and WITH DRs. like i said just adding DRs isnt gonna make ur trap go up much. so how do u go from a 96mph trap speed to 104mph by just adding a tune?? it doesnt make sense. and the real point is that even though the si was the same price as an srt4 plus all the money u spent on mods and tuning ur car still cant beat a stock srt4 with DRs.
actualy my trap was 104 wen i ran a 13.7 n rite b4 i tuned my car i had borrow dr n ran a 14.0 droped me 4tenths and i know i can do better then a 13.7 but still im happy with a 13 sec na car n i race srt4 n cobalts with bolt ons here n were allway colse to even n thy cant bleave it ..im done talking to u now bye bye lol oh yea u still drve a neon
@cleank2o now ur making stuff up. u said u ran a 14.3 at 96mph. with DRs u ran a 14.0. DRs arent gonna add to ur trap any so u ran a 14.0 at 96mph with bolt ons AND DRs. and JUST a tune put u from there to 13.7 at 104mph?? the .3 second change in et i can believe but u expect me to believe u gained EIGHT mph? and the point still stands that with bolt ons, a tune AND DRs ur car will still get smoked by either an srt4 or ss with ONLY DRs. so y does the si still cost the same to buy new? haha.
@clean thats exactly y trap speeds do mean ALOT. yea it ran a 13.9@98 cuz its awd. it does matter. and i just realized that u said u ran ur 13.7 with DRs. yes u should get trashed for not mentioning that in the first place. a stock srt4 or ss could run a 13.7 EASILY with DRs. probably even faster. so come on man. thats even more reason to give ur trap. even running a 13.7 i bet ur trap still wasnt 102-103 like stock srt4s and ss cobalts am i right? trap speed shows which car is actually faster.
@turboneon...yes i ran a 13.7. never said anything cuz that wasnt the topic. but yea i did. i really dnt say it cuz i have no video to post n dnt wanna get trashed on. i actually went alone that day my wifes usually my camera girl lol.i was running a base map on hondata flash pro n borrowed my buddies drag radials to get good grip.i could of done better i think but o well im happy wit that mid 13 sec n/a honda
@cleank2o what about ur 13.7? u left that out. anyway astock turbo ss traps 103mph. thats much faster than the 96mph ur bolt on si did. and my srt4 trapped 102 stock. 102mph is a big difference from 94 or 96.
@turboneon185 yea it is possible to run those num with a good driver..and my bolt ons are intake race header, exhaust and now im actually running a hondata base map tune n i ran a 13.7 so these cars are close its a drivers race
@cleank2o yes if the si has bolt ons they are close. stock for stock with 2 drivers with the same skills a supercharged ss is gonna win and a turbo ss is gonna win by quite a bit.
@TurboNeon185 ok and pop a turbo into an si at about 8psi with stock internals and compression and suddenly the turbo charged cavelier is the civics bitch.
@WislaKrakow24 if what your trying to say is that a civic with $4000+ worth of turbo and supporting mods will beat a stock cobalt than yes i guess you're correct. but then all you're doing is starting an endless cycle because i can then say 'well you can put a larger turbo on the cobalt and the turbo civic will then be the cobalts bitch'.
@TurboNeon185but there is only so uch to do to a 2.0t engine. thek20 is a far superior engine that could be beat on endlessly. a proper tune on k20 already means keeping up with a cobalt,not beating it, but almost there. add a few boltons and youre there. im saying that the cobalt is already a fast car and doesn't have that much room for improvement, my buddy had a supercharged one and kept loadin shit onto it and eventually the gearbox broke. if you tune both, the cycle will end for the cobalt
@WislaKrakow24 ill admit im not completely familiar with the cobalt. i know about srt4s. i know they're not the same thing but my point is that srt4s have run low 11s on stock blocks. thats because they were built knowing that they were going to be turbo charged so most of the internal components are MUCH stronger than they would be in a N/A motor.
@WislaKrakow24 and there are also alot of srt4s with the stock turbo making 300hp+ to the wheels and running in the mid to high 12s. all that takes is a wastegate actuator, bigger injectors, 3" downpipe, a better fmic, a tuned safc and some DRs.
@TurboNeon185 yes but the srt-4 is a better build 2.4. im not saying the ss is a bad car cuz i wanted one, but could just do so much more for less with my si.
@RevHardEp3 yea but they are supercharged. the new ones are turbo and run 13.9. y is this always the complaint... ohh its not fair cuz the hondas n/a and the other car has forced induction. they are both $23k. u chose the one thats alot slower. thats not our fault.
turboneon 1 car 2 car half a car he lost dude..n by the way i rana 14.3 in my si wit bolt ons no tune.i got it tuned and i ran a 13.7 il post vids up here soon. apparently the ss isnt as fast as ppl think unless thy got wrk done.n by the way he lost thats that buddy
@cleank2o ur not quite getting my point. ur saying that ur si ran a 14.7 stock. thats .4 faster than car and drivers 15.1. c&d says the ss runs a 14.4. isnt it possible that owners could also run .4 faster to a 14 flat? what were ur bolt ons to run a 14.3 btw? and anyway the turbo runs a 13.9@103 and costs the same as an si. and really yes 1 car 2 cars half a car does matter. u said he got whooped. half a car isnt whooped.
@cleank2o lol thats the funniest thing ive EVER heard the cobalts arent fast unless they got work done. but in order for you to post up a 14.3 or a 13.7 u had MODS! a tune headers intake exhaust. thats almost 2 grand even more depending on which route u go. so talk about there not fast unless modded. no shit there not fast compared to o idk a viper. but compared to a civic they woop ass! stock for stock the SI doesnt stand a fuckin chance. thats a fact. i cant believe u actually said that...
@cleank2o dude are u serious? he got beat by half a car. that aint a whoopin homes. car and driver had the supercharged ss running a 14.4 at 100 mph. thats a whole lot faster than a stock si which they tested to run 15.1 at 95 mph. so to be honest either this si has some mods or this is an n/a cobalt.
power to weight ratio counts too guys.ppl say that si's runs15s but i ran a 14.7 stock and a 14.3 with bolt ons no tune so the si is pretty quick..plus has a wider powerband and its consistent .and i see alot of stock ss run 15,s on here stock was up wit dat
@cleank2o power to weight has nothing to do with it. they have nearly identical curb weights. and btw they did make an N/A version of the ss which is more than likely the ones u saw running 15s. or if they are sc or tc then they are just flat out bad drivers.
@bergaflickal im willing to bet you dont know much about cars since you dont know that k20 are sick engines that only need a tune to keep up with cars like the ss.
@bixler90 yea but it also has to do with weight and everything and it effects every race. but still the ss/tc has 260hp si's got 200hp. there are 2 people in the ss and 1 in the si, one person can make a big difference. i like both cars im not taking sides or anything i just like the ss for some reason better than the si.
@bixler90 how would a cobalt turbo get smashed? this s/c only got pulled by half a car and this civic has i/h/e. so u havent pulled any t/c cobalts either. a stock s/c cobalt has 205 hp. a i/h/e civic has more than that so this video would be the expected outcome. however a stock t/c cobalt has 260hp. this civic would have gotten "smashed" if this was a TC. maybe u thought RyGuy was talking about a scion but he wasnt.
@TurboNeon185 sorry kid but the civic si only has 200 HP and actually i did think he was talking about a TC for a second.. but in either case the SI will destroy a SC/SS and itll hang with a TC/SS not bad for a NA car right?
@suicidebix sry kid but i said a i/h/e civic has more than 205 hp. a turbo cobalt is about a second faster in the quarter mile and with a 6-7 mph higher trap speed. sure its not bad for an NA but i wouldnt call that hanging with it.
civic didn't do to hot on car and driver lightning lap
civic si mugen spec--- 3.24, cobalt ss supercharged---3.20,cobalt ss turbo ---3.13
so i would say the civic si is much slower then both cobalts. the turbo cobalt was faster then the civic si,vwr32,gti,sti,evo,evomr,msp3,s2k,and srt4 on the lightning lap so i dont think the cobalt is as weak as you all make it out to be.
in terms of american cars i am a chevy guy and like corvettes and camaro's but in this case i hate to say it but the chevy just doesnt perform up to the power it puts out
cobalt ss's are a joke my stock n/a 06 civic si slightly pulled from one on the highway a few days ago. anyone who says that a cobalt is faster is just in denile. apparently honda has a slightly better engineering department to make less power yet still be faster. by the way i test drove a cobalt ss and realized there were better vehicles for the buck out there.
Well you are comparing a modded car versus a non modded car. That is fine, but come time to stick the same amount of money into both cars and the Cobalt will run away from the Civic. Ottp offers a great stage kit for under $500 that will up the Cobalt to 240-250whp. No offense to the Civic, there is no way for $500 you could get that much power for that amount of money. A K20 with I/H/E and Kpro will net around 230whp. If you think I am bias; check my page. I have owned plenty of Honda's
ick lol, I've got an ss stage 2 and intake and my buddy has a civic si with just intake. We raced from dig and alomost every roll posible and I destroy him. I did hear with full boltons and a tune they are a different beast thoe
@himiggy proly just a 2.4 liter if you smoked him. the older ss's were n/a and definately not fast. the supercharged ones put up similar numbers to the si, and a turbocharged one.... well... lets not go there
they are not fast...way heavier then Si's and type-s. i own a type-s and ss cobolts. okay ilo say they dnt look bad but u can get something in the same class thats much better
@Tomasexy1991 look at the prices of a 07 supercharged ss and a 07 si and as close as this race was i would get the better looking ss and put the rest of the money i would pay for the si in it and kill the si
and your probobly driving around in a gay ass 90 something civic with a fartcan and some flamboyantly gay chrome taillights thinking your the shit....
@danmcgraw41 actually faggot i dive a rather new RSX type-s with sum goodies that wud shits on cobolts all day. stfu i wudnt talk shit if i drove a beater
No offense man but I'll always say that imports are made wayyy better than amercan cars. It's really even been proven. My 5.0 mustang gt was a piece a crap. Things went wrong all the time.
well, you are aware that the vtec engine in the si is HIGH compression...
as a rule high compression motors dont last very long with boost unless they are fully built, which the k20 in the si is not...
the cobalt sc has a lower compression motor... which comes out of the factory fully built except for the pistons... this is why it can handle 20+ psi and the si cannot, this is also why the si makes more power psi for psi, however the cobalt can boost much higher
this means that in the end the cobalt will make more power and be more reliable...
the + side to high compression vtec motors is they make alot fo poower for a 4banger n/a however it is also what keeps them from making as much power as its competitors when boost with the same turbo or supercharger..
and ultimately high compression motors are less reliable with boost
Dude both Balts are ether turbo or supercharged stock lol the si isn't. So I think the si is pretty damn good and good engine to b able to make the same power as an sc would with mods..and the si not havin a supercharger.
Yelhsa, I agree totally dude. The ivtec si does have major potential. More than any other little 4cylinder car. Lol alota these people on Here deny it cus they either can't afford an si or theyr jealous. Hahaha that's what I've been tryin to tell these people on here. With some mods the new si coupe can make just as much HP as the Balts or any other car WITHOUT a supercharger.
if you ahve alot of money yes teh si does have potential... but the new cobalts are running 11's with under 2k in the engine... you will never see that from any honda... and sc cobalt have run low 12's with simple bolt ons.... if you have a good 5-7 grand to spend you can make the si pretty fast... unfortunately the ss/tc and ss/sc will make the same power or more with half the money
the na 2.2 has 148 horsepower, the lsj 2.0 was the engine of the cobalt in the race and it has been proven to make 30 whp from header exhaust and intake from jbp performance
the lsj is supercharged if im not mistaken while the k20 is NA. So the K20 NA makes 33 whp with header and reflash all motor while the lsj makes 30whp with header exhaust intake and supercharger. hmmm
header exhaust and intake make 30 whp gain with the stock supercharger setup. the k20 engine is very impressive to make so much power from an n/a setup on these mods. dont get me wrong i love the honda n/a vtec engines, all motor they achieve more for what they are than any other 4 cylinder, but if i were to buy a project car from honda, it would be the non v-tec models, the v-tec engine is a blessing and a curse if you want to eventually go with forced induction because of its high compression
throw a zzp stage 3 on a balt which comes with a smaller pulley bigger injectors smaller belt stage 3 intercooler and a tune and people have achieved 45-50whp and for half the price of a header and the reflash
@atcomx26 throw on a zzp twincharge kit on the cobalt and it will bump it up to around 422 horses it replaces the supercharger with a bigger one and adds a turbo
i'm a cobalt owner, and work at a honda dealer, and i've seen the cobalt be slightly faster than the si, but really you are right, the cobalt is supercharged... if the civic is supercharged it would take the cobalt with not much effort... but i still prefer the cobalt
yeah well the truth is the truth even if you don't want to hear it... the only real down side to the civic is the shifter, for one it feels sloppy as hell, and i don't like the 6 gears... but for the most part i'd still take a civic over any other car (besids the ss/sc cobalt) in it's class
i like the shifter in the new sis better than in my si (EM1) i think with the mugen shift improver or just about any shift improver you can tighten it up. in a drag race the 5 speed is more practical but the si was orientated more towards the circuit where the six speed comes in handy. but the cobalt ss pots out a lot of power with that blower its a really competitive car class because its the price range that 75% of people are looking in.
haha it never is, unless you poop money in which case do you mind bending me a fresh hundred? haha
their product perform like nobody's business but like you said, the price tag is just not worth it. Comptech makes a shift kit for those cars and its dirt man like less than 100. And i've heard that if you bring in a comptech product to a Honda dealership and have them install it, Honda will still honor the warranty... any validity to this that you know of?
i might sound liek a broken record on all these videos but im going to have to disagree with the that, if you bolt the m62 to the civic it will only handle 10ish psi which might get 250 to the wheels out of it, the cobalt will make 290-300 fully bolted with that supercharger at 20+ psi
@drumkid88 actually it doesnt. The only way an Si or RSXs is even competative is at 5k RPM. Before then a civic has about as much torque as a geo metro
@drumkid88 I've spanked plenty on the track its up to the driver. I"ll be damned if I let a car that dyno's 175-180 WHP and 138-145 TRQ stock beat me stock at 217WHP and 195 TRQ, but can drive and been doing it for 17 years. I've never lost to one when I was stock EVER
@blackngold20 with the cobalt putting out 217whp and 197ft/lb we shouldnt even be having the conversation of which car is faster. but apparently you dont know as much as you think you do or your just dilerious.
Um sir your vtec is ready want to deploy " FUCK YEA "
danny1234567890ify 3 months ago
VTEC BIATCH!
LiLV3XX08 6 months ago
it dont take much for a civic to be on par with a cobalt SS
thatDUDEoverTHERE010 7 months ago
@thatDUDEoverTHERE010 depending on which one your talking about. ive raced many turbo civics in my turbo ss with only an intake, custom 3.5inch exhaust and gm stg1 and its either been close untill high speeds were i walk away or just walk away from the start.
foolongtea 3 months ago
@foolongtea SC'd cobalts ....the turbo SS's are pretty damn quick
thatDUDEoverTHERE010 3 months ago
I seen a few SRT-4s & SSs run against Eks I seen a few SI give it a good run.
I would say a factory turbo or S/C engine would make a better foundation to mod because the internals are stronger although the compression ratio is lower. K20s rated @10:1- 11:1but needed because of the vtec lift thus giving you the hi rpm preformance, Honda doesn't have a factory S/C or turbo engine so, Yea ya can have a good runner wit a civic. The SRT's can be extremely faster.
MixQuisite 10 months ago
@MixQuisite Older JDM Legends were factory turbo (could be wrong) as well as the Acura RDX (Turbo K23)
Metalhead852 10 months ago
@Metalhead852 You are right but not any HONDA, The real JDM Sports cars like Skyline R32- 33s GT.
Toyota's, Mitsu,& Mazda just to name a few of the better ones. If you but the old Skyline up against a New Civic SI, the Skyline will probability beat it in the long run. But even Toyota had some good cars back then, I know because I owned a 1976 Celica GT 2.0R, I never got beat by a Civic SI. most of the challenges were Flakey like the civic owners knew that their SI coupe or HB.
MixQuisite 10 months ago
@Metalhead852 Challenges I did get were mostly flaky like they knew that their civic was fast but wasn't enough to take on an old tuned JDM Celica GT. I belive that Honda is using Turbo in Acura's but not in HBs like the RSX-Type-s,or the TSX A- spec.The turbos are in the hi end Acuras, SUVs like the MDX, that is a heavier vehicle and AWD too so it would make scense.The lower line of cars HONDA has no factory turboed vehicles. But are good if tuned.
MixQuisite 10 months ago
I seen a few SRT-4s & SSs run against EKs I seen a few SI give it a good run. I would say a factory turbo or S/C engine would make a better foundation to mod because the internals are stronger although the compression ratio is lower. K20s rated @10:1- 11:1but needed because of the Vtec lift. but none form the hondas were factory S/C or turbo engines so, Yea ya can have a good runner wit a civic.
the SRT's can be extremely faster thou.
MixQuisite 10 months ago
I seen a few SRT-4s & SSs run against EKs I seen a few SI give it a good run. I would say a factory turbo or S/C engine would make a better foundation to mod because the internals are stronger although the compression ratio is lower. K20s rated @10:1- 11:1but needed because of the Vtec lift. but none form the hondas were factory S/C or turbo engines so, Yea ya can have a good runner wit a civic.
the SRTs can be extreamly faster thou.
MixQuisite 10 months ago
dude my si would fucking dust you little mustang i dont give a damn if it supercharged or wat fuck you
TheMrFalin 11 months ago
haaa i think its so funny watching someone in a cobalt thinking their the shit i have a civic si and love it dude your cobalt sucks dick
TheMrFalin 11 months ago
@Ricaespi yeah but at least the honda actually has a decent interior. i would rather blow torch my nipples off than live with the cobalts interior.
yamaha825 11 months ago
@zxswaggr what about price u idiot!! the civic si is even more expensive than the cobalt ss. civic= more expensive, slower. cobalt ss= cheaper, faster. hahaha stupid honda drivers!!!
Ricaespi 11 months ago
-Cobalt ss/sc and cobalt ss/tc are night and day difference, I have owned them both and a tc tuned alone can keep up or surpasss almost any car from a roll. AWD will take it from dig almost no matter what (Asumming good driver mod)
-Honda SI's are awsome too. I had an EG3 and with Hondata it does move..Fast, faster than most would think. My EG3 passed out at 110k miles probably from me slamming it too hard...
-Forced ind vs NA is fair because they both have their own pros and cons
demetrios77 1 year ago
i have a 2007 SS S/C and its been a good car with not much going wrong with it and its decently fast for a 4 banger but the interior materials would be thrown out in a plastic toy factory in China. besides i bought the car new and i dont know what i was thinking. maybe i had just watched 2 fast 2 furious but im sick of FWD and that wing. time to step up. Im getting a 2005 Audi S4 in Nogaro blue. No more Chevy crap
07SuperchargedSS 1 year ago
Ese Cobalt esta demasiado lento facil facil se pasa al SI no se que le paso a ese =S
bambuchaZ24 1 year ago
I have owned 4 GM vehicles and all of them fell to crap under 100k mi. I would never buy another GM vehicle! I have also owned 3 Hondas including my current car a 2010 SI coupe. even if it is not as fast stock as a Cobalt SS It's much more reliable, way better interior, looks a lot better on the exterior and holds it's value! if your just looking for speed then you're an idiot! GM"S SUCK!
shanerd333 1 year ago
@cblt2007 just had a couple of pointers to make here 1 you said a technology packed civic the cobalt runs the same Valve system has the Honda they just call it Eco tec which is variable cam timing based on rpms and oil pressure. Second take a stock civic eg hatchback buy a eBay special turbo kit run like 8lbs of boost and it will smoke a cobalt it would run just about the same hp but weigh hella less. And in my opinion I drive/own 240sxs but a cobalt is still just a domestic trying to be a tune
zombie1890 1 year ago
Nice race!
zbabar3000 1 year ago
i v-tec 2.0 anytime
kompleti 1 year ago
Yea cobalt need a turbo to make them fast I've seen all motor civic si bolt on n tune runin low 13s n so wat thy spent 2gs its still fast for all motor ya can't talk shit cuz a cobalt without a sc or turbo is gonna be slow lol
cleank2o 1 year ago
bolt on civic with a tune will beat a stock cobalt ss/sc by like 1 1/2 - 2 cars. seen it time and time again.
00RegalGSX 1 year ago
@00RegalGSX so lets see hear u have to spend over 2k in bolt ons to beat a stock cobalt? mmm i think ill take the stock cobalt :).. and now lets put those bolt ons and a tune vs a turbo balt. well now the civic still loses. o well handa can try again another time :). no doubt with money they can go fast.. but for every dime u put into the civic put that into the cobalt and THEN see who is still gonna be faster. dollar for dollar the cobalt wins.
cblt2007 1 year ago
the defference between a cobalt ss/sc/tc is ::cough cough:: THE SUPERCHARGER AND TURBOCHARGER they have. import stocks are all motor.
Phocer 1 year ago
Nice run! That's not bad at all for a bolt-on SI. I have a Cobalt SS/SC and it ran low 14s stock, around 100 mph. Now it has a 2.8" pulley, tune, and bolt-ons running 13.5 at 105 mph (need driver mod). I'd say the SI in this vid ought to trap over 100 mph easily. Anyway, good vid.
Mach1Spd 1 year ago
Wow....... Thats really bad..
Jrawseome86 1 year ago
turboneon....u just prob got ur ass beat by an import n allways bashin on them ..and i do kno about cars more then u think..anyways bye bye bye im done wasten my time with u
cleank2o 1 year ago
@cleank2o actually ive never been beat by a honda. im not bashing on them. im defending the domestics. i just dont understand how all u civic and rsx guys can continue talking shit when all these cars cost almost exactly the same brand new and the hondas get smoked stock vs stock. if u do beat a STOCK srt4 or ss u guys all think ur the shit...even though u have about 2grand in mods just to beat a STOCK car. and then if u lose u guys always say.."oh thats because the other car is turbo".
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
@TurboNeon185 4 cyls still rape
aznhalofan650 1 year ago
@aznhalofan650 i know that. im not sure what u mean. i drive an srt4 which is a 4 cylinder.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
@TurboNeon185 Cobalt is a 2.4 whit a turbocompresor and only make about 203 hp,, Honda 2.0 liters make 197 hp without turbo or admosferic motor, that call nice tecnology , honda don't make shits like american cars,,the have to pay for quality my friend,.
niesseur 1 year ago
@niesseur actually new cobalts are a turbocharged 2.0 liter and they make 260hp and more importantly 260ft/lbs of torque compared to the civics 139ft/lbs of torque. the cobalt ur refering to that makes 203hp is a supercharged 2.0 and it still makes 200ft/lbs of torque. thats still alot more than 139ft/lbs. 197hp out of an n/a 2liter is good but id still rather be able to stomp on the gas at 2000rpm and have my car actually go somewhere.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
@niesseur you are one of the most stupidist pieces of work i think i have EVER seen on here. first off like turboneon said. its a 2.0 liter. and is supercharged not "turbocomresor" second. the honda makes a BRAKEHORSEPOWER which for all of you that dont know that means that what it makes at the crank! the cobalt comes from the factory with 205 WHEEHORSEPOWER! the cobalt should be rated at like 220-230 if it was BRAKEHORSEPOWER. but unlike honda who have to rate at brake horsepower cuz if....
cblt2007 1 year ago
@niesseur they rated it at wheel horsepower like chevy they would be down in the 170hp range with alot less tq. than the already puny 139.. plz the next time you want to trash talk a brand atleast know what the hell ur talking about. and chevy makes a NA SS vs of the cobalt that comes stock with 176 WHP from the factory. pretty close to ur "nice technology" civic SI.. so idk how nice that technology is.. but it cant be that good. dont make shits like american cars. HA.
cblt2007 1 year ago
obviosly u dnt know much bout cars ask anyone u tune a k20 with hondata flashpro n u gain at leats 30hp to da wheel if not more depending on the tune and mods bye.and i did read what i wrote u must of misunderstood me bye
cleank2o 1 year ago
@cleank2o what r u a teletubby? whats with all the byes? anyway 30 hp is nice. however even 30 hp wont gain u 8mph in ur trap speed. perhaps u do not know much bout cars. anyway bye bye ;-D
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
i never said i ran a 14.3 with dr i ran on stock tires. i said i ran a 14.0 and a 13.7 with dr the 14.0 was b4 the tune and the 13.7 was after the tune. yo dont get mad cuz ur pos car needs help from a turbo to go fast..peace i ddnt have nothin to prove to u lil kid
cleank2o 1 year ago
@cleank2o re read what i said. i already know what tires u were using on what run. the 14.3@96 was WITH i/h/e and no tune. ur 14.0 flat was WITH i/h/e and WITH DRs. like i said just adding DRs isnt gonna make ur trap go up much. so how do u go from a 96mph trap speed to 104mph by just adding a tune?? it doesnt make sense. and the real point is that even though the si was the same price as an srt4 plus all the money u spent on mods and tuning ur car still cant beat a stock srt4 with DRs.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
actualy my trap was 104 wen i ran a 13.7 n rite b4 i tuned my car i had borrow dr n ran a 14.0 droped me 4tenths and i know i can do better then a 13.7 but still im happy with a 13 sec na car n i race srt4 n cobalts with bolt ons here n were allway colse to even n thy cant bleave it ..im done talking to u now bye bye lol oh yea u still drve a neon
cleank2o 1 year ago
@cleank2o now ur making stuff up. u said u ran a 14.3 at 96mph. with DRs u ran a 14.0. DRs arent gonna add to ur trap any so u ran a 14.0 at 96mph with bolt ons AND DRs. and JUST a tune put u from there to 13.7 at 104mph?? the .3 second change in et i can believe but u expect me to believe u gained EIGHT mph? and the point still stands that with bolt ons, a tune AND DRs ur car will still get smoked by either an srt4 or ss with ONLY DRs. so y does the si still cost the same to buy new? haha.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
oh yea trap speed dont meen nothing to me cuz i had a wrx b4 my si and ran a 13.9 n i didnt even break 100mph 98 mph
cleank2o 1 year ago
@clean thats exactly y trap speeds do mean ALOT. yea it ran a 13.9@98 cuz its awd. it does matter. and i just realized that u said u ran ur 13.7 with DRs. yes u should get trashed for not mentioning that in the first place. a stock srt4 or ss could run a 13.7 EASILY with DRs. probably even faster. so come on man. thats even more reason to give ur trap. even running a 13.7 i bet ur trap still wasnt 102-103 like stock srt4s and ss cobalts am i right? trap speed shows which car is actually faster.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
@turboneon...yes i ran a 13.7. never said anything cuz that wasnt the topic. but yea i did. i really dnt say it cuz i have no video to post n dnt wanna get trashed on. i actually went alone that day my wifes usually my camera girl lol.i was running a base map on hondata flash pro n borrowed my buddies drag radials to get good grip.i could of done better i think but o well im happy wit that mid 13 sec n/a honda
cleank2o 1 year ago
turboneon my tap was for the 14.7 94mph and for the 14.3 96 mph..
cleank2o 1 year ago
@cleank2o what about ur 13.7? u left that out. anyway astock turbo ss traps 103mph. thats much faster than the 96mph ur bolt on si did. and my srt4 trapped 102 stock. 102mph is a big difference from 94 or 96.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
@turboneon185 yea it is possible to run those num with a good driver..and my bolt ons are intake race header, exhaust and now im actually running a hondata base map tune n i ran a 13.7 so these cars are close its a drivers race
cleank2o 1 year ago
@cleank2o yes if the si has bolt ons they are close. stock for stock with 2 drivers with the same skills a supercharged ss is gonna win and a turbo ss is gonna win by quite a bit.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago 5
@TurboNeon185 ok and pop a turbo into an si at about 8psi with stock internals and compression and suddenly the turbo charged cavelier is the civics bitch.
WislaKrakow24 10 months ago
@WislaKrakow24 if what your trying to say is that a civic with $4000+ worth of turbo and supporting mods will beat a stock cobalt than yes i guess you're correct. but then all you're doing is starting an endless cycle because i can then say 'well you can put a larger turbo on the cobalt and the turbo civic will then be the cobalts bitch'.
TurboNeon185 10 months ago
@TurboNeon185but there is only so uch to do to a 2.0t engine. thek20 is a far superior engine that could be beat on endlessly. a proper tune on k20 already means keeping up with a cobalt,not beating it, but almost there. add a few boltons and youre there. im saying that the cobalt is already a fast car and doesn't have that much room for improvement, my buddy had a supercharged one and kept loadin shit onto it and eventually the gearbox broke. if you tune both, the cycle will end for the cobalt
WislaKrakow24 10 months ago
@WislaKrakow24 ill admit im not completely familiar with the cobalt. i know about srt4s. i know they're not the same thing but my point is that srt4s have run low 11s on stock blocks. thats because they were built knowing that they were going to be turbo charged so most of the internal components are MUCH stronger than they would be in a N/A motor.
TurboNeon185 10 months ago
@WislaKrakow24 and there are also alot of srt4s with the stock turbo making 300hp+ to the wheels and running in the mid to high 12s. all that takes is a wastegate actuator, bigger injectors, 3" downpipe, a better fmic, a tuned safc and some DRs.
TurboNeon185 10 months ago
@TurboNeon185 yes but the srt-4 is a better build 2.4. im not saying the ss is a bad car cuz i wanted one, but could just do so much more for less with my si.
WislaKrakow24 10 months ago
@cleank2o and just out of curiousity what were ur trap speeds for those runs. 14.7 14.3 and 13.7?
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
HEEEELLLLLL no cause it would have NEEVVERR even kept up AT ALL if it wasnt SC you douche
RevHardEp3 1 year ago
@RevHardEp3 yea but they are supercharged. the new ones are turbo and run 13.9. y is this always the complaint... ohh its not fair cuz the hondas n/a and the other car has forced induction. they are both $23k. u chose the one thats alot slower. thats not our fault.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
turboneon 1 car 2 car half a car he lost dude..n by the way i rana 14.3 in my si wit bolt ons no tune.i got it tuned and i ran a 13.7 il post vids up here soon. apparently the ss isnt as fast as ppl think unless thy got wrk done.n by the way he lost thats that buddy
cleank2o 1 year ago
@cleank2o ur not quite getting my point. ur saying that ur si ran a 14.7 stock. thats .4 faster than car and drivers 15.1. c&d says the ss runs a 14.4. isnt it possible that owners could also run .4 faster to a 14 flat? what were ur bolt ons to run a 14.3 btw? and anyway the turbo runs a 13.9@103 and costs the same as an si. and really yes 1 car 2 cars half a car does matter. u said he got whooped. half a car isnt whooped.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
@cleank2o lol thats the funniest thing ive EVER heard the cobalts arent fast unless they got work done. but in order for you to post up a 14.3 or a 13.7 u had MODS! a tune headers intake exhaust. thats almost 2 grand even more depending on which route u go. so talk about there not fast unless modded. no shit there not fast compared to o idk a viper. but compared to a civic they woop ass! stock for stock the SI doesnt stand a fuckin chance. thats a fact. i cant believe u actually said that...
cblt2007 1 year ago
@cleank2o especially after haveing mods done to ur car! lmfao. i really am laughing out loud. that made my day thanks i really appreciate it. :)
cblt2007 1 year ago
he got wooped and dats dat
cleank2o 1 year ago
@cleank2o dude are u serious? he got beat by half a car. that aint a whoopin homes. car and driver had the supercharged ss running a 14.4 at 100 mph. thats a whole lot faster than a stock si which they tested to run 15.1 at 95 mph. so to be honest either this si has some mods or this is an n/a cobalt.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
power to weight ratio counts too guys.ppl say that si's runs15s but i ran a 14.7 stock and a 14.3 with bolt ons no tune so the si is pretty quick..plus has a wider powerband and its consistent .and i see alot of stock ss run 15,s on here stock was up wit dat
cleank2o 1 year ago
@cleank2o power to weight has nothing to do with it. they have nearly identical curb weights. and btw they did make an N/A version of the ss which is more than likely the ones u saw running 15s. or if they are sc or tc then they are just flat out bad drivers.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
i expect the SS to lose. i mean i guess a k20 has a little ass in it after all.
oskar87A1 1 year ago
WOW the kid in the ss can drive for shit if it has a sc and he got beat by a si lol
bladeofhell666 1 year ago
im willing to bet it was the one year only n/a ss cobalt with 176 hp
bergaflickal 1 year ago 9
@bergaflickal im willing to bet you dont know much about cars since you dont know that k20 are sick engines that only need a tune to keep up with cars like the ss.
WislaKrakow24 10 months ago
@WislaKrakow24 depends on what k20 your talking about k20z or k20a
bergaflickal 10 months ago
@WislaKrakow24 im willing to bet your wrong and the comment was 7 months ago get over it
bergaflickal 10 months ago
Put it up against a SS/TC and lets see what happens
TheRyGuy100 1 year ago
@TheRyGuy100
the TC would get smashed.. seen it done.. iv actually done it a few times to be honest
bixler90 1 year ago
@bixler90 yea but it also has to do with weight and everything and it effects every race. but still the ss/tc has 260hp si's got 200hp. there are 2 people in the ss and 1 in the si, one person can make a big difference. i like both cars im not taking sides or anything i just like the ss for some reason better than the si.
TheRyGuy100 1 year ago
@bixler90 how would a cobalt turbo get smashed? this s/c only got pulled by half a car and this civic has i/h/e. so u havent pulled any t/c cobalts either. a stock s/c cobalt has 205 hp. a i/h/e civic has more than that so this video would be the expected outcome. however a stock t/c cobalt has 260hp. this civic would have gotten "smashed" if this was a TC. maybe u thought RyGuy was talking about a scion but he wasnt.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
@TurboNeon185 sorry kid but the civic si only has 200 HP and actually i did think he was talking about a TC for a second.. but in either case the SI will destroy a SC/SS and itll hang with a TC/SS not bad for a NA car right?
suicidebix 1 year ago
@suicidebix sry kid but i said a i/h/e civic has more than 205 hp. a turbo cobalt is about a second faster in the quarter mile and with a 6-7 mph higher trap speed. sure its not bad for an NA but i wouldnt call that hanging with it.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
@suicidebix lol a stock si will not destroy a stock ss ne thing..unless ur racing a stock impala ss from 96..btw its 197 hp and a 1/4 of 15.1
bergaflickal 1 year ago
um i will garuntee that si had work done they run a 15.1 stock as the ss runs mid 14s
bergaflickal 1 year ago
@bergaflickal this comment is so true facts prove it. plus i beat my friends si out at school 3 times when i was stock in my ss
atcomx26 1 year ago
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efb17a 1 year ago
civic didn't do to hot on car and driver lightning lap
civic si mugen spec--- 3.24, cobalt ss supercharged---3.20,cobalt ss turbo ---3.13
so i would say the civic si is much slower then both cobalts. the turbo cobalt was faster then the civic si,vwr32,gti,sti,evo,evomr,msp3,s2k,and srt4 on the lightning lap so i dont think the cobalt is as weak as you all make it out to be.
efb17a 1 year ago
Honda knows how to make a four cylinder they have been doing it since before 99 and now when Americans try and do it we suck.
ihatecopsphoenix 1 year ago
@ihatecopsphoenix the ss/tc was rated fastest fwd car on a track when it came out so we dont suck at it
atcomx26 1 year ago
gotta 06 gray. word
jpwilm1 1 year ago
in terms of american cars i am a chevy guy and like corvettes and camaro's but in this case i hate to say it but the chevy just doesnt perform up to the power it puts out
MegaWally21 1 year ago
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MegaWally21 1 year ago
cobalt ss's are a joke my stock n/a 06 civic si slightly pulled from one on the highway a few days ago. anyone who says that a cobalt is faster is just in denile. apparently honda has a slightly better engineering department to make less power yet still be faster. by the way i test drove a cobalt ss and realized there were better vehicles for the buck out there.
MegaWally21 1 year ago
that cobalt needs a driver mod...I never lost to a civic that wasn't boosted even stock
blackngold20 1 year ago
Where da flame at?
belizetj 1 year ago
yea its sad see that cobalt needs a sc to get what honda has in a na
jamer20 1 year ago
Ive beat these poor engineered Cobalt's ss/sc many times, ON THE TRACK with my 07 Si sedan. Its all about Honda Vtec! 5800gz-8200gz ALL DAY!
er45er45 1 year ago
@er45er45 You wouldnt touch the turbo ones tho
ATLBraves1992 1 year ago
Well you are comparing a modded car versus a non modded car. That is fine, but come time to stick the same amount of money into both cars and the Cobalt will run away from the Civic. Ottp offers a great stage kit for under $500 that will up the Cobalt to 240-250whp. No offense to the Civic, there is no way for $500 you could get that much power for that amount of money. A K20 with I/H/E and Kpro will net around 230whp. If you think I am bias; check my page. I have owned plenty of Honda's
CarefullySleek 1 year ago
sure thats an S/C I dont hear ANY whine
RatzSSSC 1 year ago
ick lol, I've got an ss stage 2 and intake and my buddy has a civic si with just intake. We raced from dig and alomost every roll posible and I destroy him. I did hear with full boltons and a tune they are a different beast thoe
Behaviorz 1 year ago
well i got a 06 civic si and i smoked a ss bad and my si is stock
himiggy 1 year ago
the ss couldnt drive cause there's no way youd EVER beat one stock
jacquelineannnne 1 year ago
@jacquelineannnne i smoked an SS supercharged today and my Civic Si 06 its stock too
m4l2co 1 year ago
So have i 4X! 07 si sedan. Twice with Different drivers. Its all about the vtec, 5800-8200RPMs all day!
er45er45 1 year ago
@himiggy proly just a 2.4 liter if you smoked him. the older ss's were n/a and definately not fast. the supercharged ones put up similar numbers to the si, and a turbocharged one.... well... lets not go there
herky303 1 year ago
for an si to beat an ss it has to be fixed up hahaha
do a race stock and you'll the difference
casimiro56 2 years ago
wow thats sux--way to go Honda funny shit lol
felacsvt 2 years ago
No matter what anyone says an Si will always be better than a gay as american made cobolt hahah its like a wana be import lol
Tomasexy1991 2 years ago
@Tomasexy1991 love how the cobalt is stock and the si isnt and it still was going to beat it but he let off the gas
mlgf0ursh0tt 2 years ago
haha cobalts are just gay and cheap. its basically like driving a cavaqueer
Tomasexy1991 2 years ago
@Tomasexy1991 fast too
mlgf0ursh0tt 2 years ago
they are not fast...way heavier then Si's and type-s. i own a type-s and ss cobolts. okay ilo say they dnt look bad but u can get something in the same class thats much better
Tomasexy1991 2 years ago
@Tomasexy1991 look at the prices of a 07 supercharged ss and a 07 si and as close as this race was i would get the better looking ss and put the rest of the money i would pay for the si in it and kill the si
mlgf0ursh0tt 2 years ago
@Tomasexy1991 the ss supercharged is 100 lbs heavier than an si ...
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
@Tomasexy1991
and your probobly driving around in a gay ass 90 something civic with a fartcan and some flamboyantly gay chrome taillights thinking your the shit....
danmcgraw41 1 year ago
@danmcgraw41 actually faggot i dive a rather new RSX type-s with sum goodies that wud shits on cobolts all day. stfu i wudnt talk shit if i drove a beater
Tomasexy1991 1 year ago
No offense man but I'll always say that imports are made wayyy better than amercan cars. It's really even been proven. My 5.0 mustang gt was a piece a crap. Things went wrong all the time.
meyluh 2 years ago
your entitled to your opinion... but i will say this
mustang 5.0 gt are OLD cars...
the american cars have changed and the quality is much higher... lets look at a few facts
the fastest track fwd car in the world : cobalt ss
worlds fastest sedan : cadillac cts-v
worlds fastest production track car: viper acr.
worlds fast fwd factory 1/4 mile car: ford focus rs : low 13's @ 105+
times are changing, everything will be good quality in a year or two, right now most of it is
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA YOU ARE ONE DUMB SHYT......shovel that cheap plastic and facts up IN YOUR ASSSSSSSSSS.
Rahulioo 2 years ago
haha i like your style man
packman4100 2 years ago
My 08 si will b able to take boosted cars wen I get cams and cam gears, headers, hondata reflash and anything I've forgotten to mention.
meyluh 2 years ago
AND ide bet money with the same mods put into a Balt sc and an si, the si would last way longer man hahaha
meyluh 2 years ago
well, you are aware that the vtec engine in the si is HIGH compression...
as a rule high compression motors dont last very long with boost unless they are fully built, which the k20 in the si is not...
the cobalt sc has a lower compression motor... which comes out of the factory fully built except for the pistons... this is why it can handle 20+ psi and the si cannot, this is also why the si makes more power psi for psi, however the cobalt can boost much higher
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
this means that in the end the cobalt will make more power and be more reliable...
the + side to high compression vtec motors is they make alot fo poower for a 4banger n/a however it is also what keeps them from making as much power as its competitors when boost with the same turbo or supercharger..
and ultimately high compression motors are less reliable with boost
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
the cobalt ss sc comes from the factory with forged pistons and crank....just so you know
DaveKelly2006SS 2 years ago
i know, i own one, however the pistons are still the weak link in the engine when it comes to modifications bringing the car to over 400 whp
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
Dude both Balts are ether turbo or supercharged stock lol the si isn't. So I think the si is pretty damn good and good engine to b able to make the same power as an sc would with mods..and the si not havin a supercharger.
meyluh 2 years ago
Yelhsa, I agree totally dude. The ivtec si does have major potential. More than any other little 4cylinder car. Lol alota these people on Here deny it cus they either can't afford an si or theyr jealous. Hahaha that's what I've been tryin to tell these people on here. With some mods the new si coupe can make just as much HP as the Balts or any other car WITHOUT a supercharger.
meyluh 2 years ago
if you ahve alot of money yes teh si does have potential... but the new cobalts are running 11's with under 2k in the engine... you will never see that from any honda... and sc cobalt have run low 12's with simple bolt ons.... if you have a good 5-7 grand to spend you can make the si pretty fast... unfortunately the ss/tc and ss/sc will make the same power or more with half the money
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
Ur not guna hear a supercharger like I turbo. Especially in a little video
meyluh 2 years ago
I thought cobalts were 6cyl???
ObviouslyBoredKid 2 years ago
They are all 4 cyl
osirisvb 2 years ago
again, why don`t we hear the supercharger i wonder..
kutmoon 2 years ago
Lol just got beat balty! My 08 si has taken every ss/sc I've raced. Only exaust intake and stage1 clutch.
meyluh 2 years ago
Lol just got beat Balty! My 08 si has taken every ss/sc I've raced. Only full exaust intake and stage1 clutch. That's what im fuckin talkin About.
meyluh 2 years ago
my turbo RSX will probably beat that Cobalt
MaddDogg81 2 years ago
for all that money you spent on the rsx, its slow
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
@yelhsa8989a it's not slow and the last guy put in the turbo
MaddDogg81 1 year ago
wtf the Civic has the best shifter in it's class
MaddDogg81 2 years ago
both are really nice i like the cobalt because you can work it and get more hp easier.
Dustinbs144 2 years ago
the K20 loves bolt ons. 33 hp with header and reflash alone. Come on..... the NA 2.2 ecotec can't claim that...
RningRiot 2 years ago
the na 2.2 has 148 horsepower, the lsj 2.0 was the engine of the cobalt in the race and it has been proven to make 30 whp from header exhaust and intake from jbp performance
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
the lsj is supercharged if im not mistaken while the k20 is NA. So the K20 NA makes 33 whp with header and reflash all motor while the lsj makes 30whp with header exhaust intake and supercharger. hmmm
willscaff 2 years ago
header exhaust and intake make 30 whp gain with the stock supercharger setup. the k20 engine is very impressive to make so much power from an n/a setup on these mods. dont get me wrong i love the honda n/a vtec engines, all motor they achieve more for what they are than any other 4 cylinder, but if i were to buy a project car from honda, it would be the non v-tec models, the v-tec engine is a blessing and a curse if you want to eventually go with forced induction because of its high compression
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
throw a zzp stage 3 on a balt which comes with a smaller pulley bigger injectors smaller belt stage 3 intercooler and a tune and people have achieved 45-50whp and for half the price of a header and the reflash
atcomx26 2 years ago
@atcomx26 throw on a zzp twincharge kit on the cobalt and it will bump it up to around 422 horses it replaces the supercharger with a bigger one and adds a turbo
mlgf0ursh0tt 2 years ago
nice run, I ran a couple of si at the track never on the road though
lightbalt 3 years ago
Pretty Good the Civic only needs that to keep up. With a reflash and IHE ya can get 30hp
MaddDogg81 3 years ago
yeah if it was stock for stock the cobalt should of put 1 or 2 cars infront like ease.
mario31201 3 years ago
BS! :)
drumkid88 3 years ago
he got in dat ass like a wedgie!
aldiazaldiaz 4 years ago
i bet you own a honda
ace9213 3 years ago
lol cobalt has a supercharger don't forget... lol its kinda sad that it needs a supercharger to keep up with a n/a civic.. just my two cents:)
drumkid88 4 years ago 10
i'm a cobalt owner, and work at a honda dealer, and i've seen the cobalt be slightly faster than the si, but really you are right, the cobalt is supercharged... if the civic is supercharged it would take the cobalt with not much effort... but i still prefer the cobalt
mktrill 3 years ago
atleast you're a good sport about it.
drumkid88 3 years ago
yeah well the truth is the truth even if you don't want to hear it... the only real down side to the civic is the shifter, for one it feels sloppy as hell, and i don't like the 6 gears... but for the most part i'd still take a civic over any other car (besids the ss/sc cobalt) in it's class
mktrill 3 years ago
i like the shifter in the new sis better than in my si (EM1) i think with the mugen shift improver or just about any shift improver you can tighten it up. in a drag race the 5 speed is more practical but the si was orientated more towards the circuit where the six speed comes in handy. but the cobalt ss pots out a lot of power with that blower its a really competitive car class because its the price range that 75% of people are looking in.
RningRiot 2 years ago
true, and i agree that the mugen shifter did feel a little better, and sounded killer... but i don't think the price tag is worth it
mktrill 2 years ago
haha it never is, unless you poop money in which case do you mind bending me a fresh hundred? haha
their product perform like nobody's business but like you said, the price tag is just not worth it. Comptech makes a shift kit for those cars and its dirt man like less than 100. And i've heard that if you bring in a comptech product to a Honda dealership and have them install it, Honda will still honor the warranty... any validity to this that you know of?
RningRiot 2 years ago
no but i will ask and get back to you
mktrill 2 years ago
i might sound liek a broken record on all these videos but im going to have to disagree with the that, if you bolt the m62 to the civic it will only handle 10ish psi which might get 250 to the wheels out of it, the cobalt will make 290-300 fully bolted with that supercharger at 20+ psi
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
@drumkid88 actually it doesnt. The only way an Si or RSXs is even competative is at 5k RPM. Before then a civic has about as much torque as a geo metro
blackngold20 1 year ago
@blackngold20 so you're saying that a stock cobalt can stay with an SI or RSX? lol don't think so.
drumkid88 1 year ago
@drumkid88 I've spanked plenty on the track its up to the driver. I"ll be damned if I let a car that dyno's 175-180 WHP and 138-145 TRQ stock beat me stock at 217WHP and 195 TRQ, but can drive and been doing it for 17 years. I've never lost to one when I was stock EVER
blackngold20 1 year ago
@blackngold20 with the cobalt putting out 217whp and 197ft/lb we shouldnt even be having the conversation of which car is faster. but apparently you dont know as much as you think you do or your just dilerious.
MegaWally21 1 year ago
@drumkid88 Haha EXACTLY
Bcrinkk17 1 year ago
yeaaaaaa siiiii booooooooooy
datbacker59 4 years ago 8
the civic has aem cold air intake with a greddy evo II exhaust and a dc sport race header....the cobalt ss/sc is completely STOCK
preludepimp150 4 years ago
what do u mean it stock! its supercharged! should that be good enough?
aldiazaldiaz 4 years ago
thats how it comes stock......
ericjackson40 3 years ago
yea...stock supercharged
SSlsj 2 years ago
yeah dude, the si is running NA, and the ss is running a supercharger...
look shit up before you post, honda boy...
JDM > USDM
blaket327 3 years ago 5