Gary, please do continue to over the pre-trib rapture and the nearness of it in your articles and videos. It gives such comfort and encouragement in these ever darkening days. You are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your obedient dedication to the Lord's calling.
So just where is a 7 year tribulation? Because in Daniel's timeline, the first 3 1/2 years were fulfilled by Jesus when he put an end to the sacrifices. So according to Daniel's timeline, Jesus fulfilled the first 3 1/2 years, that only leaves 3 1/2 years of great tribulation, not 7. "Thou Son of God....why hast thou come before your time"? "For the elect's sake, this time shall be shortened." Man doesn't reveal God's word, God reveals his word to whom he chooses.
No rapture, separate just & unjust. Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth. And Jesus explains the end of the age n Matthew 13:41-43 He'll send His angels to gather out all things that offend & do iniquity & cast into a furnace of fire, & then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of GOD. Rev 11:15 & on explains 7th trump & that wrath has come, dead judged, righeous rewarded, destroy those who destroy earth. PeaceB2All
Those fish washing up on the beach in Norway and the two days later completely disappear, to me is an indicator that we (the fish) will be gone like Jesus said after he returns in Two thousand years (two days) Has anyone seen the two major sign in in the heavens this last year on June 8th and Sept 29 ? both of which are Feast days, These were major indicators of his coming. The so called alien invasion (demons) cannot take place till we are out of here. Read the story of Lot.
Who is sbpitn and why does he/she/it never respond to any comments here with actual text? Why only respond in video format? I have asked many questions in this video and you depend solely on your subscribers to respond? I'm seeking the truth and you offer a video claiming to have an explanation, but the fact is, the video only presented more questions. Questions that YOU don't answer. Thanks GARY?
@brolance you know this is what I felt all along by your fancy set and lack of communication, your just trying to sell a book and if I buy your book then I can get the answers. If this is a totally wrong judgement then it's on you to correct the mistake and I'll repent. It does seem like every video though is a lead in or teaser to the information that you provide in your news letter or new book. Sorry if I misinterpreted that, but maybe you should look at your delivery.
sbpitn is the name that this account was set up with. Gary does respond to some in email fashion, however, as he stated in the video. He likes to respond in video form to questions we get more often so he is answering to more then just one person and it makes for less repeating. For the best response submit your ? at the Contact Us section of the website
@sbpitn very interesting, thank you for your response, although I still find it hard to understand why you don't have a team large enough to utilize the tools your given here. If you find that you can't respond to your subscribers then why not close the comments all together? It feels like a Joel Olsteen church where your presence and existence doesn't really matter as long as you tithe. I'm on youtube, your on youtube. Why do I have to come to your site?
When Jesus Regins 1000 yrs on earth we will be HERE also,for believers inherit the earth!,we are not in heaven during this time because when Jesus returns we will be with him for ever,bible is clear on this-we rule with him.:)
Jesus Regins 1000yrs at end of this Satan is released from prison and deceives the world one last time and try's to attack Jesus,at this point Satan is defeated and thrown into lake of fire,where antichrist and false prophet already are,this world then is destroyed by fire along with the heavens,and then the new earth and heavens are revealed and so is God the father who will live on earth with us! Then begins paradise
@spudnutsncoffee good question, it's like why come here to earth for a 1000 years to fix things and live in peace and harmony then what, leave? and do what with this earth that was created. Yes I know a new heaven and earth. Why did you have to make a new heaven? What was wrong with the old one? Why only a 1000 years? Why not when Christ comes back that he doesnt take back this earth to himself and never leave it? Maybe it should be joined with heaven. Yes what's next?
@brolance No, He does not 'leave'. After the 1000 years, satan will be loosed on the world again. Hard to believe but some will rebel against God and follow satan once again. This purging should rid the non-believers permanently and satan and the rest of his followers will be cast into the lake of fire and terminated permanently.
A good and fair response . . . scripture explains scripture -- in context. Too many people follow a fallible man (no matter how good and well-meaning), and as the scripture says, “Let God be true, and every man a liar.” We are all entitled to an opinion, but that does make us nor our opinion right unless it can be backed-up by infallible proof . . . and that is God's Word. This should always encourage every Christian to study to show themselves approved and have a scriptural answer at all times.
@THERAPTURECOMES I did hear once that all of the bible is for the church but not all of the bible is to the church. So your saying that scripture refers to a group of people that will be here after the rapture and will be saved?
@brolance That is exactly what I am saying. There is a full 1000 year reign of Christ. Many verses are for the 7 year tribulation and then for the 1000 year reign.
Portions of the bible written about specific periods of time and mixing them up is what causes confusion. There are verses that deal with the 7 year tribulation that people are trying to apply to the here and now where they are not meant for.
@THERAPTURECOMES somehow I knew you would be the one to answer first here lol so I have one more question, not trying to stir up trouble, just really curious. Since Christ is going to reign here for a 1000 years, why are we taken out? Seems like we should be here with him.
@brolance We, the church will be with Christ in the Millennial kingdom. After the Rapture we will be wherever he goes. The Rapture will be partly to save us from all the 7 year judgements that have to fall into the earth, and that will be before the 100 kingdom reign.
@brolance Correctly, the believers are raptured at the beginning of the tribulation, remain in Heaven for the Marriage Feast until Jesus returns with them for the battle at Armeggedon at the end of the 7 years.
Pos-tribbers believe we go 'up' at the end and U-turn return immediately in the air and return. This view negates the entire Marriage Feast and the parables concerning it.
@brolance This is just my theory and why I don’t believe in the post trib rapture. I believe the rapture takes place to do a couple things 1st to re-educate us or cleans us of the world. I don’t believe when we die and go to heaven we are instantly perfect. 2nd to prepare us for our positions in the millennial reign. 3rd to prepare us for the battle of Armageddon. The Bible says were instantly transformed with a new body, but I would bet our minds will need a lot of work after.
@jmurdoc98 whoa so that is a totally new concept. so your saying that the rapture is like a car wash to get the true believers clean and prepared for the salvation that is to come?
@brolance Not the rapture but the 7 years that follow. I think so many people have a false vision of Heaven as some perfect place. Fact is based on the Bible free will took down Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels. How could it be a perfect place when they rebelled against God in heaven? So I believe when we die that we still need work when we get there.
@brolance In a way, yes. ALL taken in the rapture WILL be sinners (we all are sinners to one degree or another, no? On earth, we can never be truly spotless.). Previewed and found acceptable by Jesus, we will be taken and forgiven of all sins in a twinkling when we receive the glorified body and taken into Heaven. There are no sinners in Heaven. Taken into Heaven clean with no desire to sin ever again. The second death has no bearing on those raptured as per scripture for reason.
@hiyosilver100 You are wrong in one thing brother: God the Father sees us SPOTLESS in the blood Christ's already shed. We are NOT sinners in God's eye, even though we sin in our present flesh. We are forgiven and washed. Again I say, in God's eye we are white as snow.
@andersdrakkar I understand the debate over sin in the flesh&sin in the spirit.I can agree with what you say to say degree.In effect "once saved, always saved". There are many preachers that err-tell we are not spotless & we must wash in the Blood of the Lamb. Jesus will make the determination of who goes up and who stays behind at the appropriate moment.
If you can give us line and verse, would be a big help to many of us in understanding and verifying what you present as fact.
@jmurdoc98 Could very well be, my friend.But we are also told that no sin or sinners are permitted in Heaven.ALL taken in the rapture WILL be sinners (On earth,we can never be truly spotless.).Previewed&found acceptable by Jesus,we will be taken& forgiven of all sins in a twinkling when we receive the glorified body&taken into Heaven. Taken into Heaven clean with no desire to sin ever again. The second death has no bearing on those raptured as per scripture for reason.
@brolance There will be a lot of saved people after the rapture. But these saved people are not the church. The church will cease to exist after the rapture. The explanation is simple: The church is the saved people in the timeframe from Pentecost till the rapture.
@brolance Yes, we Believers and followers are the church. Sorry, there is no mention of the church early in Revelations. The church (The Believers) are snatched / Harpazoed / Rapieried away.
@brolance The Bible is for the church, yes. But not all TO the church. I'll explain: We can learn and see a lot of "pictures" (like when Abraham was going to sacrifice his son Isaac but the angel stopped him and Abraham found a lamb behind him - and sacrificed the lamb in stead of Isaac. This is a picture of what was to be in Abraham's future - the Lamb of God, the Lord Jesus, was sacrificed in the cross for our sins, in stead of us). But for example, Moses law is not for the church.
@THERAPTURECOMES "Those that endure to the end are trib saints and it is just that simple."
You got a good point there! It's true that in Revelation it talks to the trib saints. I got mixed up on what the Apostle Paul said some books before... about "finishing the race".
@andersdrakkar That is so true about the apostle Paul and him speaking on each individual being in a race and running a good race and has nothing to do with the trib saints
@brolance These are words of Paul. He who endures till the end of the "race" - meaning one's life "will have the crown" - meaning the prize the Lord has for the ones that strive to please God in their lives. Many believers won't have a "crown" or "prize" although they will have eternal life in heaven because they were redeemed... they will just be saved like through fire - basically meaning - they will enter Heaven empty, because they lived a life not serving God. Hope this helped!
@andersdrakkar that is actually the way I feel is right here. I know feelings don't really matter, but I felt and feel very strongly that the END spoken of is the end of our life here on this earth. Thanks!
@brolance The End is the 2nd coming, 7 or more years after rapture. RE: Matthew 24:9; Israel is hated by all nations.The Jews have been persecuted immensely. God says we are not appointed to (His) wrath which I believe is the 2nd 3 1/2 years of the 7. Revelation does not mention the church after 4:1 except in Heaven in ch's 4&5 and to mention the beheaded believers left behind in Rev 6:9- & 7:9-
@brolance I only have the post that you are answering now, so I am confused about one being flagged as spam... But I think anyone can do that. God Bless you
@brolance The End is the 2nd coming, 7 or more years after rapture. RE: Matthew 24:9; Israel is hated by all nations.The Jews have been persecuted immensely. God says we are not appointed to (His) wrath which I believe is the 2nd 3 1/2 years of the 7. Revelation does not mention the church after 4:1 except in Heaven in ch's 4 and 5 and to mention the beheaded believers left behind in Rev 6:9- and 7:9-
@brolance To the end that is appropriate for them individually. For Believers the end will be the Rapture. For some Trib Saints, the end will be losing their head (and retaining their spiritual life) for refusing to worship the a/c. For some Trib Saints, the end will be remaining alive to see Jesus return His foot to earth and then repopulate the earth.
If God sees us perfect, why should fellow believers believe that we will be part of God's punishment in all this world-wide judgement, when again, we are found "clothed in white linen", "white as snow", "all sins pardoned"? It just doesn't add up.
Gary, a great explanation indeed... and what's wrong being glad about ESCAPING the wrath of the Lamb? After all, the Lamb (the Lord Jesus) has nothing to be wrathful about his children he died for and redeemed... It's not logic to think that we'll be part of God's judgement in this earth because as the Bible says we redeemed ones (saved by grace) have been washed by the blood of the Lamb (the Lord Jesus). If we are washed, God the Father sees us perfect through the Lord's sacrifice in the cross.
@andersdrakkar IMO still after all this debate, it's like being in a car crash. You were not at fault but still you had to deal with the mess around you. I'm still not convinced that we are not going to go through the tribulation even though we are not appointed unto the wrath that is to come.
@brolance This may help. We will see tribulation 10 days (a short while- we see it happening with Christians today): Rev 2:10,Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; **and ye shall have tribulation ten days**: be thou faithful unto death (as above ‘some’ is implied), and I will give thee a crown of life.
Great answer by Gary!!!
seventhsands 1 month ago
Gary, please do continue to over the pre-trib rapture and the nearness of it in your articles and videos. It gives such comfort and encouragement in these ever darkening days. You are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your obedient dedication to the Lord's calling.
TruthoughtsMinistry 1 month ago
So just where is a 7 year tribulation? Because in Daniel's timeline, the first 3 1/2 years were fulfilled by Jesus when he put an end to the sacrifices. So according to Daniel's timeline, Jesus fulfilled the first 3 1/2 years, that only leaves 3 1/2 years of great tribulation, not 7. "Thou Son of God....why hast thou come before your time"? "For the elect's sake, this time shall be shortened." Man doesn't reveal God's word, God reveals his word to whom he chooses.
shadapple 1 month ago
No rapture, separate just & unjust. Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth. And Jesus explains the end of the age n Matthew 13:41-43 He'll send His angels to gather out all things that offend & do iniquity & cast into a furnace of fire, & then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of GOD. Rev 11:15 & on explains 7th trump & that wrath has come, dead judged, righeous rewarded, destroy those who destroy earth. PeaceB2All
JimmyCarol100 1 month ago
Gary, I agree with everything that you have said and I am grateful for it. Thank you and be blessed!
Farmword 1 month ago
Those fish washing up on the beach in Norway and the two days later completely disappear, to me is an indicator that we (the fish) will be gone like Jesus said after he returns in Two thousand years (two days) Has anyone seen the two major sign in in the heavens this last year on June 8th and Sept 29 ? both of which are Feast days, These were major indicators of his coming. The so called alien invasion (demons) cannot take place till we are out of here. Read the story of Lot.
Ajaxmax 1 month ago
Who is sbpitn and why does he/she/it never respond to any comments here with actual text? Why only respond in video format? I have asked many questions in this video and you depend solely on your subscribers to respond? I'm seeking the truth and you offer a video claiming to have an explanation, but the fact is, the video only presented more questions. Questions that YOU don't answer. Thanks GARY?
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance you know this is what I felt all along by your fancy set and lack of communication, your just trying to sell a book and if I buy your book then I can get the answers. If this is a totally wrong judgement then it's on you to correct the mistake and I'll repent. It does seem like every video though is a lead in or teaser to the information that you provide in your news letter or new book. Sorry if I misinterpreted that, but maybe you should look at your delivery.
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance
sbpitn is the name that this account was set up with. Gary does respond to some in email fashion, however, as he stated in the video. He likes to respond in video form to questions we get more often so he is answering to more then just one person and it makes for less repeating. For the best response submit your ? at the Contact Us section of the website
sbpitn 1 month ago
@sbpitn very interesting, thank you for your response, although I still find it hard to understand why you don't have a team large enough to utilize the tools your given here. If you find that you can't respond to your subscribers then why not close the comments all together? It feels like a Joel Olsteen church where your presence and existence doesn't really matter as long as you tithe. I'm on youtube, your on youtube. Why do I have to come to your site?
brolance 1 month ago
Do a show on the strange sounds heard around the world this month. Strange all of a sudden.
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When Jesus Regins 1000 yrs on earth we will be HERE also,for believers inherit the earth!,we are not in heaven during this time because when Jesus returns we will be with him for ever,bible is clear on this-we rule with him.:)
andymcq2509 1 month ago
Jesus Regins 1000yrs at end of this Satan is released from prison and deceives the world one last time and try's to attack Jesus,at this point Satan is defeated and thrown into lake of fire,where antichrist and false prophet already are,this world then is destroyed by fire along with the heavens,and then the new earth and heavens are revealed and so is God the father who will live on earth with us! Then begins paradise
andymcq2509 1 month ago
Interesting episode. I have always been confused about the millennial reign. What comes are that?
spudnutsncoffee 1 month ago
@spudnutsncoffee good question, it's like why come here to earth for a 1000 years to fix things and live in peace and harmony then what, leave? and do what with this earth that was created. Yes I know a new heaven and earth. Why did you have to make a new heaven? What was wrong with the old one? Why only a 1000 years? Why not when Christ comes back that he doesnt take back this earth to himself and never leave it? Maybe it should be joined with heaven. Yes what's next?
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance No, He does not 'leave'. After the 1000 years, satan will be loosed on the world again. Hard to believe but some will rebel against God and follow satan once again. This purging should rid the non-believers permanently and satan and the rest of his followers will be cast into the lake of fire and terminated permanently.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
A good and fair response . . . scripture explains scripture -- in context. Too many people follow a fallible man (no matter how good and well-meaning), and as the scripture says, “Let God be true, and every man a liar.” We are all entitled to an opinion, but that does make us nor our opinion right unless it can be backed-up by infallible proof . . . and that is God's Word. This should always encourage every Christian to study to show themselves approved and have a scriptural answer at all times.
russmaleartist 1 month ago
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russmaleartist 1 month ago
He that endures to the END shall be saved. What END?
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance if I could get an answer on this one question it would be very helpful in my walk with God. Thanks!
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance 4/5 of the bible is for the Hebrews 1/5 is to the church. People continually try and put the 4/5 on the church which is wrong.
Those that endure to the end are trib saints and it is just that simple.
THERAPTURECOMES 1 month ago 2
@THERAPTURECOMES I did hear once that all of the bible is for the church but not all of the bible is to the church. So your saying that scripture refers to a group of people that will be here after the rapture and will be saved?
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance That is exactly what I am saying. There is a full 1000 year reign of Christ. Many verses are for the 7 year tribulation and then for the 1000 year reign.
Portions of the bible written about specific periods of time and mixing them up is what causes confusion. There are verses that deal with the 7 year tribulation that people are trying to apply to the here and now where they are not meant for.
THERAPTURECOMES 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES somehow I knew you would be the one to answer first here lol so I have one more question, not trying to stir up trouble, just really curious. Since Christ is going to reign here for a 1000 years, why are we taken out? Seems like we should be here with him.
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance We, the church will be with Christ in the Millennial kingdom. After the Rapture we will be wherever he goes. The Rapture will be partly to save us from all the 7 year judgements that have to fall into the earth, and that will be before the 100 kingdom reign.
andersdrakkar 1 month ago
@andersdrakkar so we go up to come back down? wow this is a mess and needs lots more explanation
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance Correctly, the believers are raptured at the beginning of the tribulation, remain in Heaven for the Marriage Feast until Jesus returns with them for the battle at Armeggedon at the end of the 7 years.
Pos-tribbers believe we go 'up' at the end and U-turn return immediately in the air and return. This view negates the entire Marriage Feast and the parables concerning it.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
@brolance sorry, I meant 1000 year reign. Missed one "0" :)
andersdrakkar 1 month ago
@brolance This is just my theory and why I don’t believe in the post trib rapture. I believe the rapture takes place to do a couple things 1st to re-educate us or cleans us of the world. I don’t believe when we die and go to heaven we are instantly perfect. 2nd to prepare us for our positions in the millennial reign. 3rd to prepare us for the battle of Armageddon. The Bible says were instantly transformed with a new body, but I would bet our minds will need a lot of work after.
jmurdoc98 1 month ago
@jmurdoc98 whoa so that is a totally new concept. so your saying that the rapture is like a car wash to get the true believers clean and prepared for the salvation that is to come?
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance Not the rapture but the 7 years that follow. I think so many people have a false vision of Heaven as some perfect place. Fact is based on the Bible free will took down Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels. How could it be a perfect place when they rebelled against God in heaven? So I believe when we die that we still need work when we get there.
jmurdoc98 1 month ago
@brolance In a way, yes. ALL taken in the rapture WILL be sinners (we all are sinners to one degree or another, no? On earth, we can never be truly spotless.). Previewed and found acceptable by Jesus, we will be taken and forgiven of all sins in a twinkling when we receive the glorified body and taken into Heaven. There are no sinners in Heaven. Taken into Heaven clean with no desire to sin ever again. The second death has no bearing on those raptured as per scripture for reason.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
@hiyosilver100 You are wrong in one thing brother: God the Father sees us SPOTLESS in the blood Christ's already shed. We are NOT sinners in God's eye, even though we sin in our present flesh. We are forgiven and washed. Again I say, in God's eye we are white as snow.
andersdrakkar 1 month ago
@andersdrakkar I understand the debate over sin in the flesh&sin in the spirit.I can agree with what you say to say degree.In effect "once saved, always saved". There are many preachers that err-tell we are not spotless & we must wash in the Blood of the Lamb. Jesus will make the determination of who goes up and who stays behind at the appropriate moment.
If you can give us line and verse, would be a big help to many of us in understanding and verifying what you present as fact.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
@jmurdoc98 Could very well be, my friend.But we are also told that no sin or sinners are permitted in Heaven.ALL taken in the rapture WILL be sinners (On earth,we can never be truly spotless.).Previewed&found acceptable by Jesus,we will be taken& forgiven of all sins in a twinkling when we receive the glorified body&taken into Heaven. Taken into Heaven clean with no desire to sin ever again. The second death has no bearing on those raptured as per scripture for reason.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
@brolance There will be a lot of saved people after the rapture. But these saved people are not the church. The church will cease to exist after the rapture. The explanation is simple: The church is the saved people in the timeframe from Pentecost till the rapture.
andersdrakkar 1 month ago 4
@andersdrakkar you don't have the same understanding of the word "church" that I have :) it has to still exist after the rapture. We are the church!
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance Yes, we Believers and followers are the church. Sorry, there is no mention of the church early in Revelations. The church (The Believers) are snatched / Harpazoed / Rapieried away.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
@brolance The Bible is for the church, yes. But not all TO the church. I'll explain: We can learn and see a lot of "pictures" (like when Abraham was going to sacrifice his son Isaac but the angel stopped him and Abraham found a lamb behind him - and sacrificed the lamb in stead of Isaac. This is a picture of what was to be in Abraham's future - the Lamb of God, the Lord Jesus, was sacrificed in the cross for our sins, in stead of us). But for example, Moses law is not for the church.
andersdrakkar 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES "Those that endure to the end are trib saints and it is just that simple."
You got a good point there! It's true that in Revelation it talks to the trib saints. I got mixed up on what the Apostle Paul said some books before... about "finishing the race".
andersdrakkar 1 month ago
@andersdrakkar That is so true about the apostle Paul and him speaking on each individual being in a race and running a good race and has nothing to do with the trib saints
THERAPTURECOMES 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES lol there are all kinds and I thank God for you, just so you know ;)
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance These are words of Paul. He who endures till the end of the "race" - meaning one's life "will have the crown" - meaning the prize the Lord has for the ones that strive to please God in their lives. Many believers won't have a "crown" or "prize" although they will have eternal life in heaven because they were redeemed... they will just be saved like through fire - basically meaning - they will enter Heaven empty, because they lived a life not serving God. Hope this helped!
andersdrakkar 1 month ago
@andersdrakkar that is actually the way I feel is right here. I know feelings don't really matter, but I felt and feel very strongly that the END spoken of is the end of our life here on this earth. Thanks!
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance No problem... :) Thing is I hope that my END will be being raptured, not exactly dying...! :)
andersdrakkar 1 month ago
@andersdrakkar Do not fear dieing in Christ! For Believers, to be absent the body is to be present with the Lord.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
@hiyosilver100 True... but I still prefer, like everyone, be raptured without passing through death...!
andersdrakkar 1 month ago
@andersdrakkar Of course. And from the daily escalating events, we just may be outta here soon. G.B.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
@brolance I agree if you mean the end of the world at Armageddon and on to the millennium.
BibleStudy888 1 month ago
@brolance The End is the 2nd coming, 7 or more years after rapture. RE: Matthew 24:9; Israel is hated by all nations.The Jews have been persecuted immensely. God says we are not appointed to (His) wrath which I believe is the 2nd 3 1/2 years of the 7. Revelation does not mention the church after 4:1 except in Heaven in ch's 4&5 and to mention the beheaded believers left behind in Rev 6:9- & 7:9-
BibleStudy888 1 month ago
@BibleStudy888 hmmm so why is your previous post flagged as spam?
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance I only have the post that you are answering now, so I am confused about one being flagged as spam... But I think anyone can do that. God Bless you
BibleStudy888 1 month ago
@brolance Looks like I posted the same thing twice. Maybe that is why someone marked it as spam. Though I can't see it. Have a great evening.
BibleStudy888 1 month ago
@brolance The End is the 2nd coming, 7 or more years after rapture. RE: Matthew 24:9; Israel is hated by all nations.The Jews have been persecuted immensely. God says we are not appointed to (His) wrath which I believe is the 2nd 3 1/2 years of the 7. Revelation does not mention the church after 4:1 except in Heaven in ch's 4 and 5 and to mention the beheaded believers left behind in Rev 6:9- and 7:9-
BibleStudy888 1 month ago
@BibleStudy888 Yes. That's about it in a nutshell.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
@brolance To the end that is appropriate for them individually. For Believers the end will be the Rapture. For some Trib Saints, the end will be losing their head (and retaining their spiritual life) for refusing to worship the a/c. For some Trib Saints, the end will be remaining alive to see Jesus return His foot to earth and then repopulate the earth.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago
You are right on Gary...
typaffmarketing 1 month ago
@typaffmarketing ... usually means there is more to come lol
brolance 1 month ago
If God sees us perfect, why should fellow believers believe that we will be part of God's punishment in all this world-wide judgement, when again, we are found "clothed in white linen", "white as snow", "all sins pardoned"? It just doesn't add up.
andersdrakkar 1 month ago 2
@andersdrakkar Amen
THERAPTURECOMES 1 month ago
Gary, a great explanation indeed... and what's wrong being glad about ESCAPING the wrath of the Lamb? After all, the Lamb (the Lord Jesus) has nothing to be wrathful about his children he died for and redeemed... It's not logic to think that we'll be part of God's judgement in this earth because as the Bible says we redeemed ones (saved by grace) have been washed by the blood of the Lamb (the Lord Jesus). If we are washed, God the Father sees us perfect through the Lord's sacrifice in the cross.
andersdrakkar 1 month ago
@andersdrakkar IMO still after all this debate, it's like being in a car crash. You were not at fault but still you had to deal with the mess around you. I'm still not convinced that we are not going to go through the tribulation even though we are not appointed unto the wrath that is to come.
brolance 1 month ago
@brolance This may help. We will see tribulation 10 days (a short while- we see it happening with Christians today): Rev 2:10,Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; **and ye shall have tribulation ten days**: be thou faithful unto death (as above ‘some’ is implied), and I will give thee a crown of life.
hiyosilver100 1 month ago