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  • Well I have a lvl 11 enhancment shammy. but a lvl 85 arcane mage. and i had a question about that lava burst move. How do i use it lol. I cant equip a weapon on my off hand. all i can equip is a main hand weapon and a shield.

    Please respond.

    Thanks (:

  • @zippo3141 Check the talents, you have dual wield in the talents.

  • hey, hey, hey whats the name of the song? Please someone tell me.

  • @MsMon4o

    It is from Man-O-War - The Crown and the Ring. Metal Bands make the best Ballads :D

  • style n1 xD

  • shamans are primarily used for their bloodlust in arenas and in raids. hence why my shaman collects dust

  • This really sadened me. I remember playing around with PTR and getting like 3k lavabursts :)

    By the way Myraddin, nice going keeping enhancement alive.

    Mysarah / Shamancement - Aggramar

  • They took it of msw because of the pvp aspect of it. Just imagine 5 stack malstrom full relentless geared enh shaman instant crit 10k lava burst

  • @Thebuttsinferno

    Ye Enahncement PvP is so powerful, that is why nearly each 2400+ team has so many of them :D

  • @Thebuttsinferno try LB for 10k :)

  • Enhancement Shaman is fun, but elemental has a more balanced dps. I find that ele shammis are better

  • @Rollinpinz

    Atm enhancement is a bit weak, except for 2-3 encounters where we are in midfield. I'd like to see a buff coming, but there isn't in 3.3.2 at least.

  • Not sure what you are trying to say, but this is a Sunwell geared char in closed beta at Level 75 to demonstrate a skill that used to be part of MSW. Stamina has nothing to do with anything. so you got me puzzled with your comment.

  • lol without stamina u will die alot :P not just in pvp but in raids too stamina is how u are living in wow :P now if he was stacking stam gems or sumthing theni understand but u got it all twisted :s

  • i have no idead what you mean about stam. I mean yeah you need a certain amount for aoe that is unavoidable..... But if you aren't an idiot and standing in ground effects stam will come with gear. And this is a SSC/Sunwell geared char. so you should prolly erase your comment. or keep it for amusement.

  • Man if msw still included lava burst that would be nasty.

  • It was really nice, also stormstrike had fire/frost damage increased ... as fresh 80 I had lava bursts (with mage in grp - early 80 heroics) of 8-9k ... so it was quite powerful.

    I feel like we are a little low on meters these days, the hybrid tax hits us hard. Just wish they'd bring laval burst back.

    The best thing about it was not the damage, it was that shaman had a real nice synergy throughout the talents and that made it insanely fun to play.

  • WTF why did they take lava ogg msw... fucking idiots!!

  • actually MSW did lower the casting speed of lava brust just after Wotlk release but it got nerfed quite fast

  • @visent94

    that is wrong, they removed lava burst in wotlk beta already from MSW

  • maby u are right a friend told me about it i dont have any experience of it lowering Lavaburst casting speed since my shaman was about lvl 30 when Wotlk released :/

    tho the friend who told me about it are not used to be wrong i bet he will check it up for hours when i show him this xD

  • so is there eny point to use lava burst in dps ? kinda stupid to cast 2 sec ;/

  • Not now, but the video was taken in beta when MSW included Lava Burst.

  • hey so a shaman should melee attack the mob and leave rest to totams? or should he use magic too?

  • Well close to 50% of our attacks come from magic, so what do you think? :-)

  • ohhhhh XD k thx ^^

  • and theres and diference bettewn enchancement shaman from elemental, cause enchancement shamans use mutch more melle then elemntel, we can say tht elemntal shamnas almost dont use in high lvl pvp, but still enchancement needs the the isntant cast spells but casting spells would ruin a fight

  • yea i made both types of shaman (pserver :P) its ROCKS but going wit preist to help frends now ^^

  • yeah, now Lava burst in no longer included in MSW spells%Proxy-Connection: keep-alive

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  • Instant with mealstorm

  • cool thanks for the responce, helped out alot

  • Mw-5 doesnt apply to instant LvB as it was in WOTLK beta.

    Rotating FS/ES is bad.

    Lava Lash ignores all armor, and hits as fire damage. Not a good talent to ignore. With sham rage on a 2 min CD, and IMP SS in 3.1, mana should NOT be an issue.

    MW-5 = Maelstrom weapon at 5 stacks

    LvB = Lava Burst

    WOTLK = ..

  • About the Lava Lash, sure it is very nice at 80, but I would not see it as must have talent for leveling up. As soon as I'd have feral spirit I'd max out the Elemental Tree, before taking stuff like static shock, lava lash, windfury totem, etc. Those would be the last to fill for me on my way to 80.

    You forgot to mention that Stormstrike gives now 20% of base mana which is a really nice change.

  • As ive already been doing is putting windfury on both weps, but in regards to lava lash i heard putting flamtounge on the off weapon barely increases the damage compared to duel windfury.

    also once i get near 80 i plan on joining my raiding guild, and would specing 15 or so points in the elemental tree to get clear casting be a good thing to have for heroics/raids in those cases i still need to preserve mana, or even back up heal if all fails.

    thanks for the responces

  • you are dead wrong about windfury.. When u WF both weps u have a 3 sec internal CD on WF again and the OH wep normally gets the proc at a 50-60% less dmg than MH WF. WF/FT is the only way to imbue your weps as a shaman now. LL is made more viable by this fact. If u want to have lower and less hitting WF procs be my guest but i am a current 4800-5300 in 25 man and on thad. i have seen 6800dps what you are saying is just uninformed. And get the Glyph of lavalash so it is an overall 75% increas

  • Glyph of lava lash is horrible.

  • a) coopertuch was speakign about leveling up, if you read the posts below.

    b) offhand physical damage is 50% lower than mainhand, not 50-60%

    c) with Naxx 25 gear you can have 6k+ dps on patchwerk and about 8-9 on Thaddius

    d) Glyph of lava Lash isn't the best choice, Lava Lash is about 4% total damage and that makes the glyph 0.4% total damage worth ... I'd prefer flametongue any second as it helps to get our elemental devastation cycle going faster.

  • wondering what the crusader looking proc was? be cool if you lemme know, im also lvling a enhance shammy, lvl 43 atm and going quick and if you have any tips. my current rotation is flame shock so pull aggro from 20 yard range, stornstrike, earth shock and the target is usually dead. once i hit 45 i plan to add lava lash to that rotation. tops would be nice, good video

  • The video taken was long ago from beta. I believe it could be the proc from the Trinket, the Dragonspine Trophy.

    Not sur eif I would bother with Lava Lash so early, it is a minor skill that does 4% overall damage and is used to drain your mana. But then ... with 3.1 we get lots of Mana from Stormstrike!

    On my website I have a few macros etc for the 80 shaman, maybe it helps :-)

  • ok thanks for the respance, i didnt notice lava lash had such the mana draining ability... i would think that would come from lavaburst also. im not sure the mana would matter cause i have water shield up at all times and since stormstrike will refund my mana, and theirs the time between my shock spells and stormstrike i could use that cooldown.

    another thing i was wondering earlier i checked out the website and saw you had it on your macro that it would involve keeping up lightning shield while

  • fighting Grob in naxx. wouldnt it only activate if he was attacking you? and why you wouldnt want to keep up water shield for the mana regen.

  • In a raid you hardly lose mana, and we ahve a talent called static shock which has a chance to proc lightning shield offensive versus our targets.

    I am not saying that lava lash isbad or anything, just tha tI wouldn't be my prefered talent for leveling. 4% of damage later on is nice.

    You don't use lava burst as enchancement. the extra damage you get form lightning bolt via stormstrike debuff (+glyph) is just better for us since we can also get it as instant cast with Maelstrom Weapon,

  • nice vid but can somone update me on how our enh shammies our doing now?

    and i would like a full update on PvP rather than PvE

  • PvE wise we are great. There are some PvP change sin 3.1 that look promising. Personally I have a DK that I use for PvP, so I can't really advice you. Atm it seems like DK + Paladin is the way to go in Arena, but a friend goes as resto and is at 2200+ rating. So I guess it is possible :-)

  • Maelstrom is fun

  • U need to destroy the crystal near them for a blasted lands quest...BTW the vid was awesome kool as dmg

  • It would be incredible if you could use LvB as Enhancement with Maelstrom procs in live. Sadly this isn't the case and I wish I could have done this in beta with my Enhancement Shaman.

  • whats the music at start O.o

  • It is "the Crown and the Ring" from Manowar

  • maelstrom doesnt work with lava brust anymore if im not mistaken though i couldve read the talent wrong

  • enhance are pretty good imm an enhance but i have one wuestion how do i know when maelstrom weapon and flurry procs?

  • are you serious...

  • nice dmg

  • Why didnt Undead die?

  • lol my warrior has 3.6k attack pwer unbuffed

  • he is lvl 75

  • got em

  • Getting higher dps on an enhancement shaman is simple, get Hit and expertise capped, and you'll be able to deal 3.8-4.3 easily

  • enhancement and elemental shamans are at the top of the dps charts, they arent "weak" as some of you are saying, just to let you know, shamans are one of the more difficult classes to play, knowing when and what totems to use, quick instant cast heals if a raid member is about to die, and you have to use your abilities to support your raid members, so those of you who are judging shamans, go try one yourself before knocking them....

  • Lol @ kids crying about enhance being sucky dps, average chance they've never even been to naxx = 95% :( I've seen mages/rogues get 1400 in 10 man naxx and shamans get 1200 in normal nexus at level 72.

  • I am at 6k dps atm as enhancement at 80. But there are other classes still topping it up. Shaman is a pretty fun all around class. I enjoy the versatile game play.

  • I have a shaman at 74 but I really hate Northrend when it comes to leveling, it was tough work getting my hunter to 80 with an epic mount, now I don't want to do it again :(

  • I can't believe you hate Northrend, most of my friends love it and I love Northrend as well. We think it is way better than Outlands and we found the quests to be more fun, except maybe some of the vehicle quests because you spend long hours playing your toon and lvling and you suddenly find yourself on a vehicle with all your abilities gone and pushing 1 and 2, pretty much a faceroll win.

  • well, I think Outlands was more varied, and the instances were definitely better, but it's mainly nostaliga due to prefering 70 over 80 in almost everything :( Mages didn't steal your healing rings, dps only classes actually did more dps than hybrids who can tank/heal when they feel like it etc

  • show me 6k dps plz

  • wowwebstats com/dtquiz6oer6x5?s=490710-531­130

    you need to enter a "." after wowwebstats sinceI can't post urls

    satisfied?

    Patchwerk: Myrddin : 6 339 DPS

    Thaddius: 9300 DPS, lols

    Now bow to the mighty Draenie! Haha just kidding :-)

  • I forgot, last week I uploaded a 2:10 kill on Patchwerk. I messed up the start, fiddling around with totems so it wa sonly like 5600 DPS -> just click on the uploaded videos, select all.

  • can you give me a good spell rotation to use? i've been looking all over and i just can't get it down i'm stuck at like 3.5k dps

  • I posted some stuff on my website, that you can find in my channel information: myrddin de

    Basically there is no rotation for us, the Maelstrom Weapon is making things too random for a real rotation, isntead priority list.

    Instant Lightning Bolt > Stormstrike > Shock > Lava Lash > renew Lightning shield

  • how can he instant Lava burst?

  • For those who can't read a) the title, b) the description, c) the captioning of the video ... This is a Video taken at 75 in WotlK BETA. It was possible then.

  • cant u still do insta lava burts whit maelstrom wep? or now hows it spells :P

  • Not anymore, it was taken away becaus eit was just too good, the synergy int ose talents would have been just too amazing.

  • **i ment lava burst**

  • I would nto call 5-6k DPS in Naxramas weak.

  • Shouldofduked, dont listen to them, Enhance is great for pvp, every time i play a PvP round, i get like 17 - 32 kills (Aka 3rd - 1st place). Plus, they pwn Dps and are really fun to play. But ofc, ele is fun too, but i prefer enhance.

  • i envy ur tornado thing........

    But one day...... i shall stack haste

  • Hello i am new to wow i really want to be an enhancement shaman and i was wondering are they good in PvP im hearing mixed info on them please tell me.

  • enhance is great for dps and pvp, im an enhance and i must say it tears up :]. elemental is good for spell crits but they lvl up slowly and use alotta mana

  • actually i have an ele shaman and they use mana up very slowly if you know what yourdoing i can kill a lot of things before having to drink, a lot more than when i was enhancment and even using the shamanistic rage or w/e. but yeah ele and rsto is the way to go

  • they are good in pvp but CC'd easily(crowd controlled) i'd stick with Ele or resto

  • shit i beat titans grip warriors as enhancment and rouges there easy just gotta know how to handle them=) lava burst crits over 6k for me.

  • heh i leveled a shaman JUST to look all glowy and cool lol

  • same but i ended up doing raids and now my main is my shammy not lock XD

  • what song is this?

  • Manowar, The Crown and the Ring.

  • whats that fire spell the has some casting time?

  • Lava Burst? It was affected by Maelstrom Weapon (instant cast) on Beta when this video was taken.

  • culd that thing kill arthas? lol thing about it.

  • Well unless arthas has the quest or can shatter the shards it might kill him slowly ;-)

  • that WF are crapy..my shaman can do 12k with dualwield and with two handed mace over 13k

  • Level 75, Level 70 gear, WotLK BETA. Most likely you can't to instant Lava Bursts from Maelstrom Weapon anymore?

  • fucking bullshit that your shaman does 12k WF DW my shaman is full tier 7.5 and rest all epic and my WF doesent crit abouve 9-10k full raid buff with procs like hell your doing 6k a wep - whats your shamans name like to armory him

  • Just to point out, your raid buffed so I am presuming that is raid buffed and in naxxramas? If so that explains why, you always hit/crit lower level mobs than mobs your level or raid bosses.

  • He is not...

  • My reply was in response to some one else but I can't seem to find the post

  • do u even know what enhancement means? the spec has more buffs than any other class in game.

  • Funnily enough I do my reply was to some one else asking why his damage is so low when he was in T7.5 and this guys is using T6.

    I have a level 80 shaman so don't try preach to me about what shaman spec is.

  • hahaha u cant even kill a lvl 57 hahaha with ur epic lvl 80 gear and all xD man find some mobs in ur own size and KILL them too! epic fight tho and in the end we know u lose :(

    someone had to comment this :P i wont do this again i promise :)

  • Actually

    1) the mobs cna only die if you do the quest,

    2) I am Level 75, like stated in the video and on the text to the right

    3) it is beta

    4) you failed the point of the video

  • Why woudn't the mob ur attacking die?

  • It is a Quest mob, they can only die if you have a quest and destroy the crystals at their "home" location.

    It used to be possible to pull them to towns. All guards would attack the mob but it would not die until some GM despawned it.

    Unfortunately it was fixed.

  • MANOWAR!

  • why do people use maelstrom weapon anymore....why dont they use wf answer please

  • wtf are you talking about?

  • what do you mean maelstrom is a talent Windfury is a talent.

  • Maelstrom is Passive, Windfury is not.

  • LAVA BURST! Not lava lash. that talent is BS. Lava Burst is a lvl 75 spell (much like Lightning Bolt) except combined with flameshock its 100% crit. at my naxx ele shaman i get crits around 7-8k with it and up to 10k in raids. Note. Lava Burst and Lava Lash is two completely different talents! keep that in mind

  • where from blasted lands are those mobs??

    Nice video

  • and btw lavalash aint good just waste of your talent tree just get 2x WF thats better

  • This is just silly. On my damage breakdown Lava Lash is 4% of my total damage. 4% more damage is not a lot, but it is still better than nothing.

    Nearly 50% of my damage is now spellbased, so flame tongue on offhand is better than you may think.

  • agreed!

  • is that nice crits lol i'm ele shaman and i crit with lavaburst 12k + glyph of flame shock (lavaburst will not consume the flameshock)

  • Well that was in beta, before inscription and at level 75 with Level 70 gear ;-) So you really can't compare the numbers.

  • i am damn glad i started WOW with a shaman. he is enhance spec as well, never respec'd once. enhance shamans=pwnage xD

    those who are thinking about making a shaman, i recommend it, ull love it, gets better and better!!!!

  • 68W2M072, ive got a ret pala and i ALWAYS make good DPS in Raids nd HCs i bet u play some Holy Priest or so........

  • so does flametongue weapon make the 25% increase in damage in the lava lash work? i made a enhance shaman and am trying to get the best out of his skills so plz lemme know

  • grrr sorry i mean flametongue totem

  • Lava Lash needs Flametongue Weapon on Offhand, not Flametongue Totem. And yes the higher you become the better it gets. On my Level 51 Orc Shaman I still use double windfury since I am not casting a lot, while on my Draenei I cast a lot and thus beneft fromt eh spelldamage boost the totem and the the weapon imbue give.

  • Hey myrd, I'm leveling a shaman, and when does it actually get good, I'm killing things fast but my health goes down insanely quick.

    Hes level 16 atm.

  • It gets better the further you advance. A big 2 hander, then Windfury at 30 and from 40 on with dual wield. At 50 with Shamanistic rage it will bwcome really nice.

  • True but still would u take away their pets or half their dots to balance the rest of the dps with hunters and warlocks? ofc not it's as much part of the class as a mage with his spells or a rogue with high dps.

  • Hey myrd what do you think about the Lava lash+ Flametonuge weapon... i think it really sux. I don't see any good dps imp with them. I prefer a double WF proc on both hands...?

  • On average my Flametongue hits for 450 (1k crits) damage each hit, in addition it boosts my spellpower, so I can get these nice 8k lightning bolts crits off, my lightning shield (static shock) will hit harder, my shocks will hit harder. Lava Lash is an additional 4% damage increase.

    Using Lava Lash with windfury means that you will proc it more often on offhand and thus "steal" procs from the mainhand ...

    Imo MSW Lightning Bolt > Stormstrike > Shock > Lava Lash

    That is how I prio buttons atm.

  • Yeah i just tried differents build with LL and FT on OH and i really found out good dps improvement with SS glyph and WF glyph. Now im really loking forward they fix ES glyph.

    It looks like they boosted spell dmg vs white dmg. That's not so bad against plate indeed. But why did they remove the LB+Maelst comb?!

  • It was pretty overpowered. 8k Lava Bursts each few sec and guaranteed 9% Melee crit.

    Too bad though, the Synergy the whole Shaman builds had was just insanely nice.

  • lol yeah..i thought lava lash was gay at first but then i tried it out with lava burst/maelstrom wep at 76. helps alot lol..so much burst + the flametongue wep and totem helps out alot with the spell crits.

  • i just checked you in armory i have one thing to say AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • What should i play to 80, can't decide, please help guys,

    play my paladin,

    my rogue,

    or my warrior?

  • Warrior!

  • Rogue or warrior would be good. Leveling a pally is probly the MOST boring class to do heh. Some people may think otherwise, but I've heard many many people say that they hate to level a pally. I've leveled a warrior and personally I think it was pretty fun. Rogue seems ok too. Just no pally.

  • Right warriour fun to level then hit 80 and BOOM you will kick yourself because unless your exallent at pvp you will get eaten alive by most classes, rouge omfg please dont do it they are exallent but i just dont like them waste half your fucking time in stelth, paladin ok to level a bit boring but oh well hit 80 and BOOM you relise you have choosen the right class and will pwn in pvp with absolutly no skill whatsoeva(WARLOCKS JUST USE THE SPELL EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF AND THAT COUNT FOR DRUID TO)

  • Alright safe man, i'll go with my paladin, part already wanted me to go that anyway, i'm 75 on my Warrior though :(

  • I havent leveld a pally past 50?

    Check my char (thundergiant on qual'thalas).

    And dps realy is the only thing that matters, survival is the persons own senses in a battle, and paladins and priests just happen to be able to do it better than most classes.

  • dps is not the only thing that matter, if so why are warroirs (no offence) not always even near the top of the dps bourd then, survival does matter a hell of a lot, DPS does matter but if you have high survival you withstand most dps thorwn at you

  • Ofcourse survival matters, but why arnt tanks in pvp?

  • Tanks ?? you just said a minute ago that priest have good survival, so now your sayin a priest can tank HAHA you dont even no what survival is... go google it then come back and try and argue with me haha

  • You just read that wrong you morron.

    If survival is all that matters (accoriding to you it is) then why arnt tanks(the most servivable classes) in pvp?

    Simple answer is that dps is more important.

  • no atullcty i said both are good...

    stop trying to fight a war that is already over go learn to play

  • Are you trying to end the conversation? you triped over your own words around 7 times already.

  • lol cause i am trying to end the conversation you cant even work out that ha, i thought you might atcully have a point worth arguing acros to me but no you no nuthung and i am relly suprised you have a level 50, obvisly ou no nothing of pvp, otherwise you would no that dps is not the only thing that matter... and also i have not tripped over my own words you have been triping over them, failing to get my point and coming back with bullshit anwser, and its not just me that no this

  • noone can survive better than a mage....

  • Paladins own mages in all forms of arena.

    Just pop a 30 repentance, then watch em bink out, hammer them and then dps, they will be dead in seconds.

  • Yes, the highest raid dps class (mages)

    And the highest heroic dps class (paladin) are a joke.

    You sir, are a moron.

  • actually u both are.. for heroics yes it's paladins for a great percentage but by far the highest... enh shamans only if pro-geared can outdps most other raidclasses. Shadowpriests,warlocks and hunters are on top dps these days.. atleast in our raids. But.. Pallys arent a joke and neither are mages.. l2play before u speak.

  • ohye and back in the old karazhan days. SP's were top dps not (frost) mages...

  • "Enh shamans only if pro-geared can outdps most other raid classes."

    Wel yes but if all the other classes are pro geared iswell it doesnt realy mean much.

    And hunters and warlocks are highest because of pets and dots.

  • hahahahahaha XD

  • Except you cant blink out of an incapacitate effect..

  • Sweet. Mages can ONLY blink out of stuns, movement impairing(lolspell) effects. Repentance is a incapitance (I can't spell...) effect.

  • mage has ok survival but not the best

  • warrior thier more fun then both

  • Warriors are boring.

  • maelstrom doesn't affect lava burst in wotlk :(

  • His gloves are the best gloves in the game for 70.. same with his legs.. "Gloves up immortal dusk" And I forget leg name..

  • i was wondering the same thing, but this was the beta so in which lava burst went with maelstrom weapon. but since ive hit 80 it hasnt worked with it, my assumption is that blizz saw that it was rediculously OP with the auto-crit if u have FS up

  • Well we had stormstrike affecting fire Damage and Lava Burst as Instant cast. As newb level 80 grouped with mage you did a 8 - 8.5k damage crit each few seconds and it was a guarantee to keep up Elemental Devastation. Just a bit too good, but well lets see how our damage looks once we have decent gear again and can judge the damage properly - so far I can't complain :-)

  • wtf im a 78 shamin rigth now adn lava burst doesnt have that affect with mail strom wtf ?im not saying its bad im gustl ike why the hell dont i have that

  • Quite nice.

    Got a quick question for you.. got a 69 shammy, currently elemental, that I haven't touched since the expansion.. what's your spec for enhancement?

  • if you click on my channel above you can see a link to the armory

  • I have to say low melee dmg becoue of a fast offhand and than i think WF on ist it MAKES NO DMG 2 SLOW weopons 2,5 or slower than WF and BÄM!

  • ok my mistake didnt see ist was not the s1 or s2 weopon sry don't see it so fast

  • Low damage becasue it is from beta! And Level 75 ;-) this video is not about the damage, it was to show the synergy that MSW/Lava Burst used to have and no longer has now.

  • Was this before they made flametongue add to spell dmg?

  • Flametongue totem that is.

  • why would you come all the way to blasted lands when there are perfectly good training dummies in capital cities?

  • This Video is from BETA. Before Target Dummies were introduced.

  • It's Lava Lash not Lava Burst lol and thast not a threat meter thats recount for dps.

  • Back in beta we were able to use lava burst together with maelstrom weapon. This Video is from BETA.

  • Thats crazy but would be nice if we could have kept the op shamans, I had to beg blizzard to even give us that dam 2 second stun for fire nova.

  • Well looking at the damage now in 25 mans I don't think that it would be overpowered to give it back, including stormstrike fire damage bonus. There are other classes that doe so much more aoe and even much more single target dps, we are nowhere close, except for encounters like thaddious where we hybrids benefit a lot from the damage modofier.

  • why do you have your threat meter on

  • It is recount, a DPS meter.

  • what is the shaman pvp spec now?

  • id choose enh watching that DPS... i think ele is ok dps, great for blasting ppl off the edge of the EotS bridge :D