Obi-Wan Kenobi Vs Grievous

[tj11112222]

Grevious was a beast before his injury from Windu

[lmaoshicb]

0:26 karate stand

[tim23tom23]

as much as I like Obi....he should have been a goner or dude sucked with four lightsabers

[Anon371]

I hate the part at 0:22 where Kenobi doesn't even flinch or react to Grievous's flourish as if nothing happened. It's such a horrible error of CGI because you can tell Ewen doesn't know what the fuck he's looking at.

[pacitto1000]

@Anon371 he knows grievous doesnt know how to use the force so whats the risk?

[Anakin8529]

why does Grievous have blue and green lightsabers? other siths have red lightsabers

[TalonMercenary]

Grievous is a pretty poor duelist tbh. If he only had 2 arms he would be defeated in no time. Plus he cant use the force

[Vigatos]

People will never learn that arrogance is a weakness. Grievous could have just had his men shoot obiwan and it would have been all over for the galaxy.

[SithLord956]

If Mace Windu didn't force crush and cripple Grievous, he woulda owned everybody.

[JakeEthanProductions]

0:23 - 0:26 is the greatest three seconds in media history.

[temiel202]

Grievous:I've been trained in your jedi arts by count dooku!

Obi Wan:Oh yeah?Well i trained the guy who kicked count's sorry ass!

[Killzoneguy117]

Greivous had the potential to be such a a badass. Like the next Darth Vader or something like that. And he stands around and gets his 2 hands cut off in the first 30 seconds. Goddamn it George Lucas, he had 4 goddamn Lightsabers. Couldn't you have made the duel at least a little more dramatically badass?

[OptimisticCynic715]

@Killzoneguy117 "Greivous had the potential to be such a a badass."

Yeah. When I saw the pics before the movie I thought he was going to be Darth Maul squared or something, but he's practically comic relief for all his boasting.

Count Dooku might've done better training C-3PO in the Jedi Arts.

[Killzoneguy117]

@OptimisticCynic715 Yeah really. 

[dariuspinball]

dragon eyes

[ricex210]

Another badly shot mess, flailing sabers everywhere and absolutely no reason to care about what is going on. The big bad villain gets effortlessly schooled, Obi-Wan looks like a cocky idiot, Grievous looks like a moron, the dialogue is Thudercats-level bad, and the whole thing looks as cartoony and fake as it actually is. No tension, no suspense, just flashing lights and noise.

[jumpyjedi]

@ricex210 then why are u watching it?

[voodoo1032801]

LOL the first jedi to face Griveous mustive been the new guy, lost even when the opponent didn't have a lightsaber

[madskofod]

The look that comes over obi's face is epic, he thoroughly enjoys the fact that grevious has 4 sabers

[dazlok23]

0.02 obiwan shoulda chop him right there. i would have. maybe thats why im not jedi material

[AzelfandQuilava]

i'm suprised that Grievous can take down 5 jedi but not kenobi ^^

[StarWarsUnited123]

@AzelfandQuilava because "Ben" is master of form 4....it's a complete defensive swordfight style....

[StarWarsUnited123]

@StarWarsUnited123 sry i mean form 3 soresu

[Xxkiller310xX]

What exactly "is" General Grievous?

Look at his eyes..

They don't look Robotic...

[vermillofam]

i hear his body was all messed up after a war so doctors took him to a lab, attempted to heal him(they did) and made him into this so called "Robot"

[sucker1999]

@Xxkiller310xX Probably a cyborg. I think he might´ve been a geonosian before, one of the "bugs",but then was turned 90% droid.

[jefferzbooboo]

@sucker1999 Grievous was a powerful Kaleesh, Dooku blew up his ship and then had him transformed into a cyborg. after Grievous was killed someone used his body for another droid.

[MynSWproductions]

1:12 when he cuts of his hand grievous Grievous could take him down with his other lightsabers

[40Pacino]

Grievous was a fail. Cool character, but they should have had him since Clones, or just kept Dooku and had Kenobi fight him. And the four arms thing was a fail because he lost two of them thirty seconds into the battle

[cadbanefan13]

obi wans looks drunk at 0:35

[oztren]

this fight should be more intense  and longer but with obi wan as the winner, soresu is a good jedi art and kenobi has master it

[muaka1]

FUCK YEAH GRIEVOUS

[knoencowo]

This is how it should of happened:

Grevious: Droids Release hell !!!!

Blast! blast! Boom! pow!

* obi-wan is toasted to a crisp*

[Ertrunken]

Massive disappointment. But, as practially all fight scene's in the movies - it should be longer, harder and with much more choreography. Say, 20% of the film should be fightscenes!

[pokemonbattlertom]

when obi-wan said your move it sounded like your mom

[last1000]

i wouldve picked up one of grevious sabers and used jar kai against him

[AlasdairFinnigan11]

@last1000 but kenobi didn't have much training/practice with jar kai... anakin would have used it, no doubt

[SonicCinos123]

4 arms fail

[sidious332]

WTF I would killed Grevious at 0:20

[wildboy789789]

best fighter... darth plaguise... he rediscovered immortality, and with time on yourside you can win any fight by waiting :)... not to mention plaguis was palpatines master and showed him how to fight... how did plaguise die? palpatine killed him while he was SLEEPING (if plaguis would have practiced the sith rule of one, he would have been the new sithari and he would be in all the movies)

[KnightedMagi]

excluding the force....

1. Dooku (ha mastered Form II which is considered the best for dueling)

2. Palpatine (mastered several forms)

3. Grievous (almost beat obi won with NO force powers what so ever)

4. Mace (he only good because of Vaaped, which uses the force)

4. Grievous (almost beat obi won with NO force powers what so ever)

5. Yoda

[zaco21]

@KnightedMagi

Mace was stronger then you think! Grievous mastered all the forms! Vaapad didn't use the force, Form IV Ataru did( the one Obi_Wan and Qui-Gon Jinn in episode 1).

[mrwhatever213]

@KnightedMagi Horrible rankings dude! look at the guy below you list, much better then yours.

[shoryuken202]

BEST DUELISTS HANDS DOWN(excluding the force)...

1. Mace Windu

2. Palpatine,Yoda

3.Anakin(Lost because he got cocky),Obi-Wan

4.Dooku

5.Grievous(Because Windu crushed his lungs made him less effective)

[nordrassil1]

@shoryuken202 I thought even Yoda said that Count Dooku was his best student. Hum. I don't recall, but I'm pretty sure Dooku is indeed the best duelist.

[shoryuken202]

@nordrassil1 i was going on who beat who....anakin made short work of dooku in round two....three years later btw

[shoryuken202]

@nordrassil1 well im pretty sure anakin chopped his head off...

[MrPranksterpunk]

i love the way grievous says "jedi arts" lol

[RandomDude514]

force push ftw? :P

[kommandoSKAR]

obi wan is arguably the most badass jedi, well he's my favourite :P love this fight, grevious is so epic

[Wdd4lif3]

the guy who played obi wan in this movie was pretty much the only good actor of the prequils...and the dude who played the sith

[kaandogan12]

0:35 obi wans like oohhhh SHIT

[CellthePhone]

@kaandogan12 no hes most likely saying man why did i get drunk again?

[MrFunnyGuy83]

at 1:15 i would have just cut off his other hands

[jackymontgomery]

the only reason why grievous lost the way he did was becouse in the first clone wars series mace windu crushed his chest. now type in the battle of hypori and tell me if obi wan could have won there.........................­.....

[DaniMelShu]

grievous is the worst

he had 4 light sabers and lost

[lxsosna]

seriously, 4 sabors and he still lost.

[IKEEMBLEM]

The way he kills grievous in the game was way better.

[bissell1060]

you fool ive been trained in your jedi by count dooku

[Auronfan]

Thats "Jedi arts"

[millanrocks]

genaral grievous was quite week obi wan beat him well bad hes very powerful

[dragonstormx]

After how hard I keep on hearing people say Grevious is in the video games, I expected there to be a more a fight here. Oh well, I suppose some of that is due Obi-Wan's style of fighting defensively rather then going in head on was a big contributed. Anakin would have had more trouble since he goes in head on, not something one wants to do when an enemy has 4 lightsabers.

[taxmonkey123]

Quite a disappointing fight, actually.

[rednas3636]

why?

[RAVENCRYDARKSTAR]

Just imagine if all four of those sabers were double bladed!

[Kurama024]

0:27

That was a cool fighting stance

[ikilldhitler]

"Oh, I don't think so!" best quote ever!

oh, and, obiwan pwns all

[DarthPhantom16]

General Grievous is my favorite character

[gamestar92]

1:18 notice how through the film they use the main characters saber designs with other characters? you can see Anakin's saber here and Obi wan's during this scene aswell, sidious also uses Anakin's design when he faces windu

[bissell1060]

the red lightsaber is going to be darth vaders

[gamestar92]

Vader built his saber, they aren't passed on

[bissell1060]

that green saber looks like lukes

[rednas3636]

ye and as we all know there is only one green lightsabre /sarcasm

[Wonka0111]

@gamestar92 Actually Sith lightsabers are manufactured en masse, that's the reason for the red color, it's the only color they can get with synthetic crystals.

[gamestar92]

Yes they have the same coloured crystals but each sith has a different lightsaber hilt because they build their own

[CsalbertCs]

Grievous would have won if they didn't have to kill him to allow the story to move on.

[randomnam]

no seeing as obi has th force so he has a better sence of whats going to happen and the next strike is coming

[voldemortlover66]

actually, the only reason that obi wan won was because he uses a style that focuses only on defence. obi wan guarded himself very well, and left to open spaces where greivous could attack.

[SilverCorporal]

The Jedi Council had a long meeting about who they should send to take on Grievous, since he'd proven to be such a problem for them. Kenobi is the master of Soresu (the defensive style of fighting) as stated by Mace Windu, who is probably one of the strongest lightsaber duelists around. Kenobi was the best man to take on Grievous for sure, and this shows why.

[MegaHale]

Not even with four arms, Grievous was able to overcome Obi-Wan !!

[MoonwalkerLegend1986]

Jedi slime huh ha look who died first?

[DominantForce14]

obi wan is awesome....... this is one of the best star wars battles i've ever seen

[MoonwalkerLegend1986]

Doomed huh look whose talking?

[dougpryce92]

my favourite is the duel in phantom menace purely due to the epic music and how long it lasted! plus its cool havin 2 jedi against 1 sith!

[FreeRider2Class]

too bad obi didnt have any droid poppers on him..... them things are awesome

[clonearmyproductions]

Attack Kenobi!

[GT2K2]

Grievous is just a robot. Can't obi wan just force push him away or pull out the swords. This fight was pretty pointless imo. Grievous has no force abilities.

[325982668]

he's actually organic and still has some major organs, like lungs *cough cough*

and that would be too easy :P

[MatoroInika]

I think he has a really tight grip on his lightsabers with those arms.

[wazupwolf]

hes just a robot but still has major organs and if obi wan tried to force push him off hed just sink his feet into the floor preventing him for moving

[kylord95]

Grievous is actually a cyborg. You can tell because in some scenes you can see his flesh.

[Wstickman]

HA! AT THE END IT WAS LIKE

Grevious:UR GONNA GET OWNED!

Obi-won: No im not

BOOM! Obi-ownd!

[llllJakubllll]

Griveous is a little bitch - what was the point of having 4 sabers when he uses like 1-2 max and just waits for his arms to be cut off.

[vietcongbitches]

@llllJakubllll To look cool!!!!

[Colton5]

@llllJakubllll because Lucas is a lazy piece of shit lol

[fatnut2]

another reason y i think grievous got his ass kicked was because of wat mace windu did to him in the old cartoon series, when he crushed his chest in(just a thought that popped up)

[cjh37878]

Yeah... If Kit Fisto can handle him before then, then Kenobi could easily handle him. Kenobi is more powerful than Fisto. Anyways, Lucas said that the crush did not affect him. He was simply repaired.

[ob1starwars]

what was with this duel. grievous should have killed obi-wan. he doesn't use all 4 lightsabers at once. he just have just sliced obi-wan's head off. and why does he stop twirling the two lightsabers as soon as obi-wan strikes. if he kept twirling those lightsabers as an offensive maneuver while at the same time use the other two for defense he'd have beat obi-wan in seconds. not my favorite duel.

[CrocoRoo]

I agree. Grievous never fought as though he had four arms. Hell, he barely fought as though he had two.

[gatheringoflight]

Grievous is a killing machine but he looks a bit like a huge can-opener lol

[Davuthzor]

obi wan is so cocky lol

[proto478]

Grievous has dual roflcopters

'nuff said

[CerulianTiger]

Epic! You made my evening!

[msoulja]

Hhahaha

[ztunelover]

quad roflcopters actually. grieveous has quad roflcopters.

[proto478]

Maybe, but he only uses 2.

[kartulipeace14]

oi wan is the best jedi fighter of all!

[insomniac4ever]

If Kenobi can beat Grevious and Skywalker without getting too much damage, why the hell couldn't he beat Dooku? In this he looks bad ass! When he faced Skywalker he looked bad ass! When he fought Dooku he looked weak, twice!

[allshallbelosttoyou]

dooku had superior force abilities. and grievous was weaker during their fight

[puddingzombie]

dooku was stronger than greivous and obiwan got lucky against anakin

[msoulja]

Ok I don't care about any of you or the other star wars characters. However, when I first saw Grevious on the cartoon, he was fucking bad ass... I was sad how he turned out in this. It seemed like they got real bored in this movie; "oh forget it, they're brain dead anyway, let us just half ass the movie and fight scenes" Just had to express that.

[Stimor]

only it was not so and then the world burned

[CerulianTiger]

If I recall correctly, Speilberg actually helped out in storyboarding this fight sequence and it was actually an entire duel, not Grievous twirling his lightsabers like a cheer leader then getting maimed and finally scorched to death. It was supposed to me more epic but Lucas, great move, decided he didn't want it to be as epic and decided he wanted to leave all the major fight for the end duel between Obiwan and Anakin. Stupid move indeed.

[TheWatcher337]

I like Kenobi's first move: the pointing of the finger

[MasterGoji]

True, but Grievous is certainly no pushover in a battle....fighting Kenobi "physically" was abit tough for Kenobi (well considerin' the Kaleesh General's a cyborg) oh well-hats off to Kenobi....Alas Poor Grievous

[qpzmak]

grievous was not weak its just that obi wan is damm skilled

[anakinskywalker45]

awesome

[zatenks]

Not to mention that Grievous only had 3 years at most of training. He doesn't have the lifelong saber experience that Jedi's have. That's why he needed four sabers, to try to counter quality with quantity.

[danetza1992]

Always Obi Wan and his: "O, I don't think so" comment... lol:P

[theboxedgirl]

Obi-Wan=Epic win.

[sspdirect02]

When I saw that he had 4 arms and 4 lightsabers, I was like "Oh, Shit!"

[AtenRa]

Why did GG have to be trained like a Jedi? With that mechanical body he can spin sabers faster than any normal person and can do obscenely unfair moves with four swords at once. He doesn't need training in styles.

[voldemortlover66]

you underestimate the Jedi skills. without proper trainging, GG wouldn't be able to use the lightsabers as efficiency as he did now, and the trainging helped him see the weakness in the different styles that the jedi use.

[TheRedFlash67]

grievous' overall fighting ability was utterly halved when his chest was crushed by Mace in the clone war series. If not for that, grievous probably woulda pwned obi-wan here.

[zatenks]

I disagree. After watching this fight numerous times, I noticed that Grevous' lightsabers got in the way of eachother. His immediate circle was too crowded to mount an efficient attack, whereas Obiwan could launch pointed strikes with his single saber. Notice how Grievous became more challenging as he lost lightsabers?

Plus in the Clone Wars, the crushed chest only affected his breathing, not his fighting prowess.

[AxelReviews]

No. Grievous couldn't use that style of flipping and acrobatics he used in Clone Wars after the lung crushing. Also, if Obi-Wan IS stronger than the Grievous in the Clone Wars, then he'd win a fight against Shaak Ti, Ki-Adi Mundi, Aayla Secura, and 2 Padawans easily.

[zatenks]

There's no proof to suggest that Grievous couldn't fight at the same level. He had no difficulty moving at any point during the movie or when fighting Obi-Wan. The only thing the lung crushing demonstrated it did was make him cough from time to time.

And this isn't Dragonball Z. Obi Wan didn't need to be "stronger" than anyone. It's all about technique, style, and experience. Mace Windu was weaker in the force than Yoda, but beat Sidious.

[lineridermatt12]

he actually didnt beat sidius,sidius could have killed mace on the spot.if u have questions,ask me.

[zatenks]

False. George Lucas himself settled this. Mace Windu won that fight. During Vaapad, the Dark Side becomes useless against the user. Mace Windu was using a saber style Sidious had never encountered, and thus had the advantage.

The only part that Sidious was faking was the "weakness" part. He was lying when he said he was too weak to fire any more lightning. But he did not throw the light saber fight. That's Sidious fanboys run amok. Sidious did not plan to get kicked in the face.

[puddingzombie]

george lucas also said that nobody but anakin could defeat palaptine u cant believe what he says he contradicts himself all the time

[tyty4da]

@zatenks About the crystals, yes that is true because different crystals have

different effects on their lightsabers. They also mean different things I think.

[puddingzombie]

again palpatine feigned defeat yoda was a better duelist then windu and he couldnt defeat palpatine

[zatenks]

Also note, that multiple lightsaber users taking on the same opponent doesn't give you the advantage you'd think. As in any fight, too many people tend to get in each other's way, and you try to make sure you don't accidently hurt your "party member".

When it's just one on one, you can fight freely and without any kind of constraint. Obi-Wan had that benefit. Ki-Adi Mundi and co did not. And I know personally it is MUCH easier to fight by yourself than with several people's help.

[zatenks]

And let's not forget that Anakin cleared the entire Jedi temple, including Cin Drallig. And Obi-Wan won against Anakin.

It's not always so clear cut as to who beat who. The individual circumstances also influence the outcome. Like I said, this is Star Wars, not DBZ. There is no "stronger" than so and so. Padawan Obi-Wan was "weaker" than Qui Gon, who was at master level, and yet Qui Gon lost against Maul.

You've got to take everything into account.

[RichardK16]

Awesome!

[whammydoom]

Is Grevious 100% robot?

[Real720]

no........

[suicid3grunt]

no he was a some sort of life form that "chose" to be rebuilt as a droid or robot whatever you call it

[thatguywithgreathair]

No. He still has his own eyes, organs, and brain so he is more of a cyborg.

[jgrosse5554]

can someone please tell me the back story behind grevious like how he got all like a robot and stuff

[urukaj]

Grievous, born as Qymaen jai Sheelal, was the Supreme Commander of the Droid Army of the Confederacy of Independent Systems for most of the Clone Wars. Born a Kaleesh, Grievous was a warlord on his homeworld, Kalee, in his people's war against the Huk. He was later transformed into a cyborg after a shuttle crash, becoming a fusion of a Krath war droid's robotic structure and his own organic brain. Later he became Dooku´s apprentice.

[cleaverwielder]

What never really sold me on Grievous was that he had no knowlege of the force. I allways saw Jedi's and Sith's as such formidable duelists because of their force enhanced intuition almost allowing them to pre-empt their opposition moves and they themselves do limmited concious thinking within the fight, letting the force do much of it. So yeah, just my two cents as to why this battle never really compared to other ones for me.

[StarWarsForever101]

Grievous had 2 die so easly. The Battle could have been longer

[uncleSwantsU]

imagine if obi wan had 4 arms

[chisacat]

Obi wan is at the peak of his powers here in ROTS - in Matt Stovers novel of the film the other jedi masters decide to send obi wan against grievous as his sabre style is the best out of the lot to go up against grevious's multi pronged attack - apparently all jedi learn a style called Soresu which is a basic defense style to use against swarms of blaster fire and projectile weapons - in the book Obi wan is acknowledged by windu and yoda as 'The' master of this style and is thus perfect.

[Automatic25]

funny how Kenobi could pwn Grievous but not Dooku who taught Grievous, its like boxing style make fights

[LParkfan4life]

dang i would've been sliced the first few seconds of that fight

[SoulsSave]

there is now way obi won won in this duel

i mean cmon 4 lightsabers???? at once vs 1.

jesus is it me or grevious needs more training

rofl. well i did hear lucas said that he didnt want grevious to be powerful he wanted someone that has that cowardness.

[MystikWizard]

I totally agree. This was a very unrealistic battle. 4 lightsabers against 1?? All Grievous did was swing the other lightsabers around while attacking with maybe 1 or 2? Grievous would have slaughtered Kenobi.

[LennoxLewis86]

A gun beats a sword any day too, but jedi's can take 20 droids at once just as easy as beating a four armed mechanic lizard.. Grievous has no affiliation with the force even though he's trained by Dooku.. Federer can teach me to play tennis as long as he wants, I wouldn't win wimbledon.. Ever..

[MystikWizard]

Yeah, a gun beats a sword. If my memory serves me correctly, though, there was no gun in the beginning when Obi Wan, with his single lightsaber, was taking on Grievous and his 4 lightsabers, now was there?? So that invalidates your point. Oh, snap!

[ricksexyy]

lol. mystik's an idiot. I see what you're saying Lennox.

The movie has different rules than reality.

Get over it .

[Nacthem]

Grievous has great training, Obi-Wan just has the best style suited to facing a multi armed opponent. All the other Jedi that got killed or injured by Grievous were attacking him, Kenobi is only attacking when he cuts his hands off. All the other time he is defending and thus leaves no opening to be cut by any of his lightsabers. Kenobi, Windu,Yoda, maybe Anakin, are probably the only jedi's in the order at this time that could beat Grevious. Maybe Cin Darllig, but that's not movie stuff.

[voldemortlover66]

obi wan uses a defensive style, and that left no openings for grievous to attack,

[Nacthem]

Actually, Kenobi is only disarming him, since cutting off your opponents weapon hand is considered disarming to Jedi. So, aside from the force push, Kenobi doesn't attack grievous the whole battle till he shoots him at the end.

[cosmosvision]

YOuk now what? I have to give Lucas the credit on this one. Ewan does have some charm, it gives obi-wan some attractiveness.

[darkroguetribune97]

grevous looks weak in this movie, but godly in the cartoon series

[athanasiadis24]

Truth.

[pinheadman665]

@darkroguetribune97

It wasn't that Grievous was weak; Obi-Wan just knew what he was doing, unlike the other Jedi before him.

1. Obi-Wan knew (unlike the Jedi from the TV series) that simply charging in waving his lightsaber over his head would've gotten him killed. Notice how Kenobi mainly sticks to a defensive style? He lets Grievous do most of the attacking.

2. Obi-Wan's fighting style was best for fighting off multiple attacks at once (perfect for fighting Grevious).

[pinheadman665]

@darkroguetribune97

3. Grievous' four-lightsaber style seems to be more of a visual intimidation than anything else; meant to make the opponent feel as if he's fucked. But Obi-Wan, being smart, knew that Grievous couldn't attack with all four lightsabers at once, because then Grievous might accidentally hit himself, or the other lightsabers would get in the way.

You can't really say this fight sucks simply because Obi-Wan decides to use his brain.

[ryumancer]

If Grievous wasn't weakened by Windu, Grievous probably might've won.

[JDRhoads07]

When did Grievous get weakened by Windu?

[ryumancer]

In the animated Clone Wars series. Windu used Force Crush on Grievous's chest, weakening him greatly.

[y2jdragos]

cool

[Tornento]

Original scene is better

[Jokerwizzz]

Lol I like Grievous theme music.