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  • @Skratovarius

    hmm is Himes still a good place to train after the big bang patch?

    am lv 104 (regular) priest and i have like 2k-ish hp and tons of mana.

  • SR-HEAL-HEAL-SR-HEAL-HEAL =D

  • im currently lvl 100 preist is that a good lvl to start soloing himes and is it better than mp3

  • 0:13 when you said zero pots, I knew immediately when you mean. This is either using hp equips (preferred method) or a pure int blood priest. You have to be fairly high int and have an awesome internet connection though, as lag is literally death here. My wireless sux. I saw him loot, if I try to do so, or speak, I'm usually dead from counteratks.

  • @DarkMage2X train at Himes or twisted jesters

  • hw much is ur hp u lv wht and u pure?

  • I am a level 74 Priest who has been training at MP3 for a while, where'd you train when you were my level up to 90?

  • how come these are called Himes?

  • @deeaznkiiid "Hime" means "Princess" in Japanese. The monster Hime/Dreamy Ghost is based off the legend of Princess Okiku and the 10 plates. Basically, it goes like this:

    There was a high-class woman named Okiku. She had 10 plates, which were extremely important family heirlooms, and she cared about them very much. ...

  • What level would you recomend soloing himes and what level should I duo with a DK? I am currently a level 76 priest with 414 int, 5.2k mp, and 1,175 hp, Lukless. Thanks in advance!

  • @Sandwich322 Solo anytime from around level 90 (max SR required!) depending on equips. With a DK - as soon as you can survive with HB.

  • Great, Thanks. Do you know any place that I could train atm? Mysterious Path Three and the Ghost Ship are frying my brain... Thanks Man

  • @Sandwich322 i actually am soloing himes right now at only lvl 77... and its good exp for me so far! but i suggest to have hp at 1300, use bless and invincible, and use equips that give you really good defense.

  • Well, I do the 1st way but, I kinda Tele and lure them to the corner and spam heal xP

    I also leave MG off. Very little pot burn, but slow grinding (heal isn't that strong) x(

  • Training with an attacker IS faster still. I wouldn't spam heal to attack, using SR is vastly stronger than heal. SR is far more stable, higher damage per hit, and more hits. Win-win situation.

  • @Skratovarius Hmm. Can you do that without MG, too? Then I might start with that way, xD

  • oh yes, the entire video is done without mg. you might want to start with the first one to get used to having to heal after getting hit.

  • @Skratovarius i started soloing himes at 75 or so.. i get much better exp solo

  • @GIRAFFEBUTTERFLYSEX

    this is a really old video. Really, really old. Over two years ago. The damage is awful, I've leveled to 140 and deleted the character since then.

    But, this video is still relevant because it explains the methods of soloing which are still the best.

    I agree with you that soloing himes starts a lot earlier now - leeching is not as good, and damage is a huge amount higher.

  • does elemental resistance lower the damage?

  • unfortunately no, all damage from himes is physical so ER has no effect on the damage at all. Invincible however has a very good effect so ALWAYS use it at himes.

  • Ohhh... Now medals for HP equips =D

    Thanks , in gonna train at Himes soon (hopefuly)

  • Yes, new equips make it far easier to hime now. The new exp formula doesn't disadvantage priests as much - although splitting the map with a good attacker has its massive benefits now.

  • I lag like crazy training a nub prz of mine here like 2 years ago. It hurts dying so much even with hb.

  • it does. I've been through that - levels 80-100 I reckon I got 200% per level instead of 100%!

  • Oh, nice observation. Maybe you should also observe that this was 1. a year ago and 2. wearing HP equips? Plus I wasn't funded? It's a video on soloing himes, not damage.

  • wad lvl were u wen u were soloin himes?

  • I could start midway through 9x.

  • nice vid ^^

  • Thanks :D

  • Err..i'm a lvl 70 priest...i should train at mong around what lvl?

  • Max HS is useful.

  • when u max hs

  • is there a way to use a macro?

  • I don't like using macros for attacks because when you get hit the macros cancel. In this map especially, you are almost constantly being hit so there is no point.

  • How much do you do with Heal on Himes? O-o

  • It's very variable because heal depends on how many monsters you hit and it's very unstable anyway. But if you have a look at some of the footage you could get a general idea.

  • Another good way to cast HS without using MG is to just cast it, then you can tele while it's casting :P That's what I usually do

  • Yep, but the problem is when you get hit while doing that and then end up dying because of the long lag time of HS :(

  • Should i go lukless on my cleric??? and nice vid

  • yes, lukless is good in almost all situations. it's normally better damage for mesos.

  • im a dk wat lvl should i fight these guys and wats the exp they give

  • You can go as soon as you can hit them. I would reccommend using a polearm (I hope you are hybrid!) and using polearm fury on the mobs. You will NEED a priest until higher levels to reduce the massive potion burn. the priest will mob all the himes to you (you normally stand at the left hand side of the map) and you just kill them, and use HB on the priest. to find a priest there are a couple of good places: 1. make a listing on basil and buddy some priests, or 2. go to ludi or leafre and find 1

  • Did you not use magic guard for method 2 since thats the one I used soloing but with mg and I used about 800 barbs in 3hrs.

  • You don't need MG for either method - in method 2 your HP is enough to take a hit and you use heal to keep your hp up.

  • Hey dude do you mind telling me what i should be training on? im a lvl 73 priest. And if you could please tell me what i should be maxing on K Stats

  • in the good old days priests trained at MDTs with a DK but these days a lot solo at MP3 (in global at least) because it's difficult to find a party there now. you can go himes with a friend or find DKs when you have max HS. I would max HS asap and then move onto other skills such as elemental resistance (good at skeles) and dispel. Most of your skills aren't useful, dump 15 at max onto dragon (to unlock 4th job bahamut) and I would max door. You MUST have ER, door, HS and dispel maxed for bishop

  • Ty man now i just need to lvl now hey will i need to max shining ray?

  • yes, you should max SR as well, forgot that one.

  • wat lv r u at that time lol good dmg and ur not lukless lol

  • trust me, this isn't good damage. my weapon was 7mil and I had no zhelm, magic gloves or a good overall. This was my first ever character, so I only got to upgrade as a bishop.

  • lol lmao im like u got nothing but a black noctunal staff and lukless but ur dmg is kinda like same as me lol and im 96

  • you'll do fine! hope it helps

  • How you keep your mana up without pot? MP eater? sry cos i nvr use mage b4 den i wan see how good it is b4 i use a cleric

  • I am assuming he keeps his mana up by NOT using magic guard. He wears that pig headband to increase his hp to survive the Hime attacks. When attacked he heals and then attacks with Shining Ray. This costs mp but with Magic Guard, mp will drain much faster.

  • He also uses invincible, which is, not very noticible, a very good skill to use due to low HP.

  • MP eater keeps up the mp from attacking (it absorbs a LOT of mp from the himes so I need very few mp pots) and no MG means no real MP loss.

  • duds y not use mg just in case i mean it doesn't do anything

  • magic guard has an upside and a downside..

    upside: can save your life alot of the time

    downside: its mp madness cause itl deal 1k to your mp every time you get hit. but i can afford it so i use it.

  • the cost is massive, and i can survive without so it's good exp and money :) a pet would help though.

  • Hey do u use hp equips or no ?? What lvl in this vid u started soloing himes ?

  • to solo himes you need hp equips or they will 1 hit ko you

  • hey whats the name of this "new" song??

  • It's "Your Fault" by Plain White Tees. It's definitely grown on me since I used it.

  • So , what level you think i can take my MG off w/o HB? Sometimes , ill be with a dk , so wen im with one , i can take it off ?

  • As soon as you can always take one hit without MG. With HB you will be able to take it off probably immediately. I always went for speed equips in place of HP equips but at higher lvs damage is more important for fast training.

  • this video is the best ill fav :]

    ty for helping =D

  • how much HP is needed to take off MG ?

  • It's around 1.4k I think. I'll reply again after trawling through some footage.

  • Ok, as long as you have invincible maxed and on, you won't take more than 1.4k. Be cafeful it doesn't run out, or it will be an easy 1hko w/o hb. I always casted it every mob or every time I get to the side.

  • what lvl were u in this video, whats ur hp in this video too and magic. im lvl 93 with 1350hp and 606 magic. i dint know if i should solo or train there with my bro (124 shadower) pleaze help

  • This was ... 10x I think. I can't remember what my magic would have been, around 73x. You should definitely train with the shadower, soloing if for when you can't get a partner.

  • ha. nice vid. btw can you tell me the name of the new "lame music" that you put on the vid?? XD im diggin it. lolz

  • It's "Your Fault" by Plain White Tees, and I've grown on it too. I was just annoyed that it was changed xD

  • As he said fraps makes his killing a bit slower. Personally My method is using teleport to go from inside to outside the mob tele away, then back in across the mob in the other way and kinda pendulum kill them - create a new mob and repeat. Its sorta hard to explain, but getting used to the "blinking" of your character really helps your timing, also I find Having sound effects on really helps, since I was barely even looking directly at the screen after a while.

  • o.o i get 65% by the hour here xD lvl 76priest partyed with 115dk

  • Partying is quite a bit faster than soloing here!

  • Thanks man I learned a lot from you! I have a lvl 82 preist but I don't understand why it can't take a hit from the himes! can you tell me what equips you ahve for yer preist????

  • I was level 10x here and had about 1400 hp when I used the hp equips here. You should never take a hit higher than 1400 ... make sure you train with invincible on. If you don't have 1400 hp with your hp equips, you have to train with a DK or magic guard.

  • lol how bout this: =)

    2 Priests; one maxes Shining Ray first,

    the other maxes the exp increase by 50% first. They group up, then one spams heal and the other spams SR. xDDD

    this allows for Himing at level 80.

  • It's a very good idea, however each would rely on the other so it would be very difficult for both. And the priest with SR has to have enough HP to take one hit, as well.

  • lol xD

    well, if the worry is about relying on each other, then wouldn't there be a problem with all DKs and priests himing together ? =P

  • Theres a much larger amount of DKs for a priest with hs to party with then there is a supply of priests with SR. The problem is really that the priest with SR can't really party with anyone except the other priest with HS because nobody wants to party with a priest that low without hs.

  • lol wouldn't that make it difficult for

    all DKs and Priests himing f3. im pretty sure all priests have enuff hp with invincible. =o

    btw isnt stratovarius a popular violin brand lol. xD

  • Most level 7x priests would not be able to take a hit from himes without HB. Some would be able to take a hit with good hp equips.

    My youtube name is inspired by a lot - my character's name Skrato (taken from socrates and plato) , the band Stratovarius which I love and the stringed instrument Stratovarius makes who makes the best cellos, which is my instrument.

  • level 8x?im thinking 1 person max hs first, the other max SR first, so by level 82 or 85, one dood has Max SR, and the other person max hs. therefore, it will be twice as fast, because there is lag between different skills; one person can spam SR and the other spam heal. and zak helm and wisdom staff/shine wand easily takes care of hp issues; if u can take 1 blow its ok because 1 person is spamming heal. lmao, stratovarius is also the brand which makes the best violins lol; mah instrument xD

  • It's definitely possible, actually I partied with priests a couple of times when I was 8x with max hs. They were level 9x and 10x though. It definitely works, the problem is for the person with max SR they are dependent on either soloing (which is hard at level 8x) or partying with the priest who agreed to party with them. The liklihood is that the priest with HS would eventually outlevel the priest with SR, in my opinion.

  • over the time it woudl take for the SR priest to outlevel the priest with HS, the priest with HS would've putten a lot of points into SR, so then they could switch roles lmao so they would stay teh same levelz i think, but would have to trade off roles....which is kinda retarted LOL

  • how many % do u get per hour and when can i start solo there

  • I got about 20% at level 9x and about 15% at 10x and 11x. That's from memory - my priest/bishop doesn't exist any more. But it's really easy to learn! The side-to-side method is actually alright at higher levels if you are lagging, or if you want to have safe training. The mobbing method requires a lot of skill and if you lag just a little and you are mgless, you will die. A lot of priests (mostly the bandwagonners of bishop) like to party since it's easier. Even more like to leech!

  • yeah right. im a priest and this seems to complicated. i rather come in a party!

  • What are himes and why are they called that?

  • The himes are the monster in the video (o.o) and they are called that because that was the original name in earlier versions of MS. In GMS they are Dreamy Ghosts.

  • The name 'Himes' in Japanese stands for 'Death Princesses'. They are soul eaters.

  • i may use this because im starting a lukless priest so far im lvl 38,btw wat lvl u recomend lukless to do this

  • You can do this as soon as you have a nice level SR, probably around 90 when you have maxed sr from levels 71-82 and got about 20 points in SR.

  • I actually prefer the Telecasting, More time spent SR'ing (equaling up to more damage) compared to SR - Heal - SR. But, that's just me.

  • The telecasting is safer but slower, and you do less damage because you are actually casting sr less often then the other method and healing in between as well.

  • in order to simply survive himes, a wisdom staff or emergency tube, with a big headband should be more than sufficient by level 80. in order to solo, you're going to need to do significant damage, and it is not worth it until at least level 9x, when you start to max sr and your heal does more than 500, not to mention you do have to hit them 100% or its not worth it.

  • So im a priest in the making, Few questions.

    1 Whats the lowest lvl to start soloing here

    2 so while you are hitting them, your mp recovers so mcuh you dont need to pot?

    and last If i were to train there with someone, whats the lowest lvl i can start? thanx

  • 88 whit wisdom staff and 80 hp band(if your sr is high enough)

    Or faster when your hp is 1330(whit hp gear)

    You dont need pots only if you max mp eater

    Here then like lvl 7X if you got 1,3k hp whit hb =)

  • i started at 83 wit a wisdom staff and a headband scrolled 100%, adds about 235hp

  • Oh my bad. I meant MP Eater. =D Thought one thing and something else came out. o.O

  • I see, in that case you should probably use the hp pots that you find, unless you have an insane amount of mp and the elixers you find will gain you more profit then using those ...

  • Do you have maxed magic guard? I don't, so leaving MG on may hurt me a bit more than it does for you.

  • In fact, I only have level 17 magic guard because I took first job advancement at level 9 D====

    However, I am going to max it using leftover points from dragon (only needs 15 points to unlock bahamut).

    I fail to see why having a lesser level of magic guard would affect you, unless you cannot survive two hits with magic guard on O.O

  • Lol something like my wizard except i became one at lvl 11 XD and have lvl 5 energy bolt T_T so ya i rele suck but i still manage to live

  • Lmaooo. I started my magician at level 9, too. xD

  • Very nice video. However,instead of using Magic Guard when you cast Holy Symbol, it may be beneficial simply to use one of the ramens Himes drop (1500 HP) while you are casting HS. No mana is lost due to MG, and the pots are completely free.

  • I would prefer to use MG and have perfect safety. Also I use hardly any mp and leech it back almost immediately. So it's free instead of costing the 700 mesos every time one drops, and I spend no mesos on training.

  • Wow thanks, this helps. What do you think is the lowest level of sr required to solo effectively?

  • That's in the video description, but I think it is about 20. You can do it if you have good equips with less then that.

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