The ms3 is based off of a ford focus platform. Who brings curves and auto x into a vid of a ms3 getting bitch smacked? Part from the rx7, Mazdas are shit. Evo/sti> Mazda......... srt-4> Mazda
@RocketKobewy ... yeah your right about the ford thing, but the Speed3 was based off the Ford Focus RS in the UK. the RS will be introduced to the US soon comes mid 2011, but the Speed3 is still the fastest FWD car in the US stock. 263hp over 280 tr. the Focus RS is the fastest FWD car in the world from factory. 305 hp over 325 tr. both cars the Speed3 and Focus RS are the same exact chasis! and your wrong, the speed3 is one of the best cars for it's class the world has ever seen so goodjob!!
The MS3 and SRT-4 are competitors with similar performance characteristics and cost. fstms3 is a mazdaspeed fanboi who believes mazda's can defy the laws of physics and thinks the FWD MS3 is as good as an EVO. She does not have any track or autocross experience and only relies on bench and magazine racing. She knows very little about cars and performance driving. Taking advice from her is like getting calculus tutoring from a 1st grader. "Enough said".
Never said that a MS3 was a good as an EVO fuck stick! I said that an MS3 isn't too far behind an EVO in road racing and that if the track is smooth an EVO would have a hard time catching a real driven MS3. That's fact and the SRT-4 isn't anywhere near as good a track car. MS3 and SRT-4 are only similar in straight line speed, that's it, Get over it. Also, you don't even know me you fucking clown, so you would have no idea what kind of a driver I am.
I know you have no experience in any racing venue. You are purely a bench/mag racing chick. I mean, it's cool and all that a girl like yourself is into cars. Actually, that's kinda hot. But anyways, I just think you need to get out there in the real world and get some seat time then your opinion will change. You just need to grow up a little, that's all. If you really, really, really think you're right, please get a mazdaspeed tattoo.
Like I was saying, you're a delusional SRT-4 neon fan boy if you actually think a SRT-4 would hang with a Mazdaspeed3 in the curves (road racing, auto x, etc) THe speed3 is just a superior platform period. And yes if the course is race track smooth and the driver is good an EVO would have a tough time catching a MS3. That's another fact. SUck it bitches!
Dude, I hate SRT-4's but to blindly deny that they are comparing with god chariot (MS3) is just stupid on your end. You then compare the MS3 to an Evo....
SRT-4 compares to a MS3 more than a MS3 compares to an Evo.
@yonkersracing . lmao NOOOOOOO. wrong, the Speed3 is more comparable to an EVO, STI than a fucking NEON is to a Speed3. the only thing the NEON can beat a Speed3 is a straight away. congrats now get a pair of balls and try and hang with a Speed3 on the back roads. bet you your title to that shit car it won't come close to even keeping a 3 sec. behind it stock for stock. you lost already!
Actually, MS3Fanboi, we are the ones trying to talk some sense into you. I'm in no way biased towards either car. I like the MS3, and I like the SRT-4. They are both cool cars. They are also highly competitive in performance and cost. They two cars have similar performance characteristics. And neither the SRT-4 nor the MS3 compare to an EVO or STI.
I don't know if you've been beat bad by an SRT-4, or if you work for Mazda or something, but your fanboi views are not normal. I think you should get a Mazdaspeed tattoo...
The MS3 starts and 23K, and the Neon SRT-4 started at 19K. So what? That's just ricer math. Don't bring ricer math into an argument about the performance of a stock vehicle.
Handling isn't just about slalom and skid pad #'s by the way. The MS3 has a very balanced chassis, very strong brakes, great stirring, etc. All of which are better than that of the SRT-4. I promise you the MS3 is far more capable at producing way faster lap times. It's faster than a VW R32 / Honda S2000 / WRX/ GTI / and it's not too far off the pace of an EVO. I'm sorry if you think a SRT-4 is as capable as a MS3 in road racing you're seriously misinformed / delusional.
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph (163 km/h)
"Probably the most outstanding number is the 60-0 braking distance of 116 feet. This often overlooked bit of data proves how thorough Mazda's overhaul of the 3 actually is. And even though this is a single-stop number, our abuse of the brakes during aggressive street and track driving proves them worthy of contending with excessive heat. At the drag strip, we recorded a 0-60 time of 5.9 seconds and a quarter-mile time of 14.2 seconds at 100 mph."
"One look reveals the probable character of the beast, so let's just cut right to the quick. The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph."
SRT4 - 14.2 @ 102 1/4 mile, 5.6 0-60, 0.85 Skidpad, 69 Slalom ....this was an 03 SRT-4, I think the 04 is slightly better because it comes stock with a LSD
Why are you such a delusional fanboi? Is Mazda paying you or something? Yeah, the MS3's 0.83 g skidpad run and the fact that the professionals at road and track said, and I quote, "it's not a very good track car". The cars are similar. Get over it. I'm also willing to bet I can whip your MS3 ass in an autocross with a regular neon because you have no experience. Please go learn how to drive for real.
Dude, just give the crack pipe a break! You're SRT-4 isn't good for anything straight line accleration. Do some research. You keep referring to an old article that show's the lowest #'s ever recorded on the speed3.
I don't understand fstms3's comment of "You're SRT-4 isn't good for anything straight line accleration." Where did you learn English? Why did you say "You are SRT-4"? That make no sense what so ever. Also, "accleration"? I don't know how you're supposed to pronounce that word. Oh well, I don't know why I'm surprised, though. Nothing else you said makes since either.
OMG onoz! I make a few spelling errors on youtube!!! I don't give a shit. You have nothing else to add so you go looking for stupid shit like spelling errors. I'm in here with a couple delusional shit box SRT-4 neon fanbois. A MS3 will rape a SRT-4 on the track and or any where there's curves involved for that matter. That's a fact get over it fuck stick. Only place a SRT-4 has a chance at beating a MS3 is at the drag strip
The funny thing is you calling us SRT4 fanboys because we are saying and proving that an SRT-4 and MS3 are comparable in all aspects...you then go on to compare the MS3 to an Evo, which is definitely not comparable in any way shape or form. You lose son.
She still doesn't get it. I suggested she get a Mazdaspeed tattoo. That way, maybe in a few years when she grows up, she'll have that painful reminder of how retarded she is being about a hunk of steel that she did not design or have any part of producing.
A few spelling errors?!?!?!?! I think you need to go back and read some of your posts.
So, which autocross event are we going to meet at so I can put your in your place physically in addition to our fun little conversations?
Oh, and I have a perfect analogy for trying to discuss cars with you. Trying to tell you how your MS3 performs realistically is like trying to convince a dog that its shit tastes bad and they shouldn't eat it. HAHAHA!
You know what's lame? Your spelling, that's what. Anyways, thanks for posting what was said 8 months ago. Good job. You're mentally as slow as a Japanese station wagon. HAHAHAHAHA!
And, just because I like laughing at you, tell me again how the MS3 "wipes the floor" with an SRT-4, yet hangs with an EVO. That's you're best fanboi comment do date. LMAO!
If acceleration is the only catigory the two cars compete in, then why are track times, skidpad, and slalom speeds similar? Get some track experience and come back and talk to me, fanboi.
BTW, trying to discuss with you, fstms3, is like trying to argue with someone one whether or not coke or pepsi tastes better, when your only experience is you've never had a coke and only tasted pepsi one time 2 years ago. You really need to grow up and drop and mindless fanboi act. I know your type well. You're young, you haven't owned many cars, and have absolutely no performance driving training or experience. I think it's really time for you to go out and learn how to drive on a track.
Track times, skidpad, and slalom speeds aren't similar. The Speed3 wipes the floor with that piece of shit SRT-4. SRT-4 is just a FWD muscle car good for 1/4's and that's just about it. THe MS3 is a much better over all performer than the neon. Go do some research kid and get back with me.
srt4 needs stage 4 kit to beat a mazada speed3 has turbo and intercooler stock. Turbo is restricted until 3rd gear thats when it starts to spool. Any way you put a dodge neon is just a crapy old neon. Ugly and cheap
I tell you what, fanboy; lets play a game. You find the best PUBLISHED MS3 skidpad number and the worst SRT-4 number. I'll find the worst MS3 number, and the best SRT-4 number, then we'll average the two and see if the two are similar. OK? (I can't wait to hear another MS3 fanboi excuse).
Why do you keep posting the same ONE test along with a wikipedia quote? You can't just hang your hat on one favorable test. You have to look at the overall average. As for the one test you keep posting over and over and over again, yes the MS3 did well. Just as well as a Neon SRT-4 would have done. I would like to see a Neon vs stationwagon shootout, but it won't happen because the Neon ended after the MS3 came out.
What gives you the perception that the SRT-4 does not handle as well? They have similar skidpad numbers. The SRT-4 is also 300 lbs lighter. They also feel similar driving them. Have you even driven ANY vehicle on a road course before? You appear to be lacking that knowledge.
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
The SRT-4 isn't close to an MS3, but the MS3 is "not far from an EVO"??? Boy is that some ignorant thinking. Please tell us all why you think the MS3 is so much better than an SRT-4 when the performance numbers are very similar and the SRT-4 is 300 lbs lighter. Seriously, have you driven both cars? You appear to be a giant mag racer without any seat time. Have you ever even driven on a track (no, gocarts don't count)?
I've driven an srt4 and it's not even close to a Mazdaspeed3 in handling. The only aspect of performance the srt4 can match with a MS3 is straight line accleration. My agrument is valid and your obviously the person who hasn't driven both.
fstms3fanboi, I'm making no sense?! I'm not the one trying to establish ricer math as a valid argument. And, professer, a modded MS3 would not have a warranty either, so shove that in your boy hole. All I'm saying is if you wanna go and bring ricer math into the equation, a fox body stang and older civic would crush an MS3 AND be reliable and a nice to drive vehicle. Just leave the ricer math at the door, ok?
Off to bed fanboi's. I'll leave you with this one more time to cry about and make excuses for.
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
As far as the EVO, a Mazdaspeed3 would need suspension MODS and better tires to post similiar lap times. Even after you "MODDED" the Mazdaspeed3 enough to the point where it could post faster times than a EVO it would still end up costing less money then a EVO. Why is this so f'n hard to understand?
It's not "hard to understand", but it IS ricer math. You can build a 90's Civic that will put 500 hp to the tires and pull 1.0 g's on the skidpad and still have money left over compared to the MS3. You can also have a fox body mustang that can lift the front tires (not spin them) and have money left over as well. Why do you insist on bring ricer math into an argument about factory performance?
The 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS uses up just 5.8 seconds accelerating to 60 mph, and it goes through the quarter-mile in 14 seconds flat at 103 mph. Even the Mazdaspeed 3 can't keep pace with this Cobalt, as it posts a quarter-mile of 14.2 seconds at 100.1 mph and 14.5 at 98.7 mph. The Chevy's main advantage is that it weighs 200 pounds less.
It's not just the Mazdaspeed3's handling that make it fast on a road course it's all the low/ mid range tq it has to pull itself thru the corners and down the straight aways. Perfect example is the S2000, yes it handles better than the MS3 but the MS3 can still outrun one mainly because of it's tq advantage.
The MS3 is more a "road racing" car than a "autocross" car. And yes it does handle quite well for a sport compact and with all the tq it has it well simply walk away from many so called sports cars
Sure you could do that but in the end all you have is a used piece of shit car that can run fast 1/4's without a warranty. The Mazdaspeed3is quite a nice overall car and for 23-25k it makes it even better.
Ok. Then by your logic the MS3 isn't "way better" than a Toyota Camry. Why is it that you keep making excuse after excuse for your beloved station wagon?
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
There you go again posting the lowest #'s ever recorded by noob driver. Road and Track in their (June 2007) recorded .91 g's for the speed3. explain that you f'n douche sickle? It was the f'n driver.
RZEZZ why do you insist on posting the lowest #'s ever recorded on the MS3? Most Mags have it running somewhere between .87 -.92 g's. That .83 g's you keep posting about was obviously tested with a noob of a driver.
The Cobalt SS beat the Mazdaspeed 3's lap time at the Ring.
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
Ever heard of Car and Driver's 'Lightning Lap' test? Look it up, the MS3 is 4 seconds faster around VIR than the Cobalt SS, 3 seconds faster than an RX-8, 9 seconds faster than a GTI. In fact, the MS3 is almost as fast as an Evo.
That's it. Get mad! That will make your station wagon faster. HAHAHAHA!
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
WHAAA! That video doesn't have the outcome I want to see. WHAAA! Those mag's don't show the results I want to see. WHAAA! An SRT-4 can't handle as well as an MS3 even though that's what the numbers say because that's not what I want to hear. WHAAA! I keep telling everyone that my turbo Mazda station wagon is like an EVO, but nobody will listen to me. WHAAA!
YOu are smoking dope sir! SRT-4 can't handler nearly as well as a MS3 that's a fact and the #'s prove that. You keep pointing out the lowest #'s ever recording by some noob driver. And yes the MS3 is all that far off for a EVO. with a few simple mods it would be right there with it. Lay off the crack pipe!
So, which numbers prove the SRT-4 can't handle nearly as well as the Mazdaspeed 3's? Is it the Mazdaspeeds' 300 pounds of extra heft (that's over 10% heavier), the Mazda's lower skidpad numbers, or the Mazda's slower slalom?
I don't "think". It's a fact. The SRT-4 can do way better than 0.83'g on the skidpad. Go drive both, and you'll see. And, yes, the EVO is WAY better than both.
I've driven them all, kiddo. I'm telling you right now that the MS3, SRT-4, GTI, Civic SI, Focus SVT, Cobalt SS, etc... are all decent handing cars. In an autocross, it's a driver's race. None in that list would be what a car enthusiast would call a great handling car.
This is a lame ass video! The srt4 is clearly modded and there is way too much traffic to race. MS3 had to hit the brakes to keep from hitting on coming traffic.
MS3 fanboi (aka sedansi0777): The Mazdaspeed 3 is not far from an EVO.
Motortrend: Lateral grip = 0.86 g's.
Car and Driver (May 2007): Lateral grip = 0.85 g's.
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
Que music "One of these things is not like the others..."
Road and track: the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats.
The SRT-4 is no match for a MS3 in the handling dept (MS3 would roast a SRT-4 around a track). And yes a MS3 isn't that far off from an EVO in handling. With slightly better grip (better tires) and maybe a coil-over suspension it would be really close or the MS3 would end up ahead and still cost thousands more. Your statements are pathetic and unfounded. Get a life!
Please explain why you would think a MS3 would "roast" an SRT-4 around a track when the SRT-4 posts a very slight advantage in acceleration, lateral grip, and slalom speed? Reality check: The 2 are very close, neither would "roast" the other, and both are only "decent" road handlers.
You are picking the lowest #'s ever recorded you f'n moron!!!! Mazdaspeed3 is buy far the best sport compact to date, no contest. Let me dig up some reviews for your sorry ignorant ass...
...and you're picking the highest, fanboi. I actually posted 3 mags if you go back and look. They all show "decent" handling. No matter how much you want it to be, it's not an EVO.
Road and track: the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats.
In our most recent test ["Hot Hatches in the Roaring 20s," December 2007] the speedy 3 hit 60 mph in 5.6 seconds and covered the quarter in 14.2 seconds at 100 mph.
The Mazdaspeed 3 outruns the Honda S2000 and isn't all that from from a Lancer Evolution and you think it's handling is "just okay"?
This was around Laguna Seca
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
You think a Mazda 3 isn't that far from a EVO?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! There's nothing else to say to you as I can see you live in a world of twisted reality. You keep saying "several road tests" but won't say which one. I posted 3. Face it, the MS3 is just a diecent handling car.
These ms3 owners are gay. They cry when they see true vids like this one. Shut up, and stop crying. It happens. They swear they can beat any and every srt-4 out there. Get real losers. Here is my vid of me at the track running one with a bad 60' from me and i still pull that thing and missed a gear! (enter crybaby excuses here ^)
Okay you idiot, the MS3 was held up by traffic!!! The only way a SRT-4 POS is going to bet a MS3 is with MODs. IF you MOD one you gotta MOD the other. MS3 would flat out embrass the POS SRT-4 is the twisties and in any other situation.
A race means 1 car wins and 1 car loses and it doesn't matter who's fart muffler is louder. One thing I do know is at the strip I have seen bone stock srt-4's roast vipers depending on the driver. I hate neons period so I would not say it if it weren't true.
The MS3 is far from amazing. You need to drive a real sports car if that's what you think. Road and Track tested the SRT-4 at 0.85g's skidpad and 67.3 mph slalom; the MS3 was 0.83g's and 63.5 mph. Both are just "ok". Here's a quote from Road and Track, "Yet the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. But while it's not a very good track car, it is a terrific road car..."
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
I am not smoking anything. That was a Road and Track article and real world test. Check for yourself I hate to get into it, but the sooner you realize that the MS3 is only a decent handling car (along with the GTI, Civic SI, SRT-4, SE-R, etc), the better off you'll be. I also went to the car and driver website, found the May 2007 test of the MS3, and I'm looking at the test sheet right now. "Power Toys" article. Road handling says 0.85 g's. What are you smoking? HA! Liar.
You don't go with the worst results tested by one magazine.
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
Facts?! Well, here they are; MS3 road handling: Motortrend = 0.86 g's. Road and Track (Dec 2006) = 0.83 g's. Car and Driver (May 2007) = 0.85 g's. There are 3 sourses for you. You can't just pick and choose what you WANT to hear.
The MS3 is far from amazing. You need to drive a real sports car if that's what you think. Road and Track tested the SRT-4 at 0.85g's skidpad and 67.3 mph slalom; the MS3 was 0.83g's and 63.5 mph. Both are just "ok". Here's a quote from Road and Track, "Yet the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. But while it's not a very good track car, it is a terrific road car..."
Ever thought that the poster didn't know the mods at the time and instead of posting MISINFORMATION like the majority of people have done in this thread, he just titled it "SRT4 vs. MS3"
Flame someone for posting something FALSE not because people make ASSUMPTIONS, CAN'T READ and are wrong.
The ms3 is based off of a ford focus platform. Who brings curves and auto x into a vid of a ms3 getting bitch smacked? Part from the rx7, Mazdas are shit. Evo/sti> Mazda......... srt-4> Mazda
RocketKobewy 1 year ago
@RocketKobewy ... yeah your right about the ford thing, but the Speed3 was based off the Ford Focus RS in the UK. the RS will be introduced to the US soon comes mid 2011, but the Speed3 is still the fastest FWD car in the US stock. 263hp over 280 tr. the Focus RS is the fastest FWD car in the world from factory. 305 hp over 325 tr. both cars the Speed3 and Focus RS are the same exact chasis! and your wrong, the speed3 is one of the best cars for it's class the world has ever seen so goodjob!!
19SpaghettiOs88 1 year ago
stock vs stock...ms3 win all day
jdcha9163 3 years ago
wat was that a 50 trim? stock turbo? nice sound but so unfair. yonkers representing though
praetorian2150 3 years ago
that srt4 def wasn't stock
ZmZmBCH 3 years ago
You are def correct
yonkersracing 3 years ago
a stock ms3 can take a 400whp srt on any track.
it wasnt built for straight line speed
pdivizzle0112 3 years ago
You guys are smoking dope if you actually think a SRT-4 is as capable of a track car as the MS3. Enough said.
fstms3 3 years ago
The MS3 and SRT-4 are competitors with similar performance characteristics and cost. fstms3 is a mazdaspeed fanboi who believes mazda's can defy the laws of physics and thinks the FWD MS3 is as good as an EVO. She does not have any track or autocross experience and only relies on bench and magazine racing. She knows very little about cars and performance driving. Taking advice from her is like getting calculus tutoring from a 1st grader. "Enough said".
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Never said that a MS3 was a good as an EVO fuck stick! I said that an MS3 isn't too far behind an EVO in road racing and that if the track is smooth an EVO would have a hard time catching a real driven MS3. That's fact and the SRT-4 isn't anywhere near as good a track car. MS3 and SRT-4 are only similar in straight line speed, that's it, Get over it. Also, you don't even know me you fucking clown, so you would have no idea what kind of a driver I am.
fstms3 3 years ago
Well driven*
fstms3 3 years ago
I know you have no experience in any racing venue. You are purely a bench/mag racing chick. I mean, it's cool and all that a girl like yourself is into cars. Actually, that's kinda hot. But anyways, I just think you need to get out there in the real world and get some seat time then your opinion will change. You just need to grow up a little, that's all. If you really, really, really think you're right, please get a mazdaspeed tattoo.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Like I was saying, you're a delusional SRT-4 neon fan boy if you actually think a SRT-4 would hang with a Mazdaspeed3 in the curves (road racing, auto x, etc) THe speed3 is just a superior platform period. And yes if the course is race track smooth and the driver is good an EVO would have a tough time catching a MS3. That's another fact. SUck it bitches!
fstms3 3 years ago
Dude, I hate SRT-4's but to blindly deny that they are comparing with god chariot (MS3) is just stupid on your end. You then compare the MS3 to an Evo....
SRT-4 compares to a MS3 more than a MS3 compares to an Evo.
yonkersracing 3 years ago
@yonkersracing . lmao NOOOOOOO. wrong, the Speed3 is more comparable to an EVO, STI than a fucking NEON is to a Speed3. the only thing the NEON can beat a Speed3 is a straight away. congrats now get a pair of balls and try and hang with a Speed3 on the back roads. bet you your title to that shit car it won't come close to even keeping a 3 sec. behind it stock for stock. you lost already!
19SpaghettiOs88 1 year ago
Actually, MS3Fanboi, we are the ones trying to talk some sense into you. I'm in no way biased towards either car. I like the MS3, and I like the SRT-4. They are both cool cars. They are also highly competitive in performance and cost. They two cars have similar performance characteristics. And neither the SRT-4 nor the MS3 compare to an EVO or STI.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
I don't know if you've been beat bad by an SRT-4, or if you work for Mazda or something, but your fanboi views are not normal. I think you should get a Mazdaspeed tattoo...
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Mazdaspeed3 starts at 23k btw. That's about 10k less than an EVO.
fstms3 3 years ago
The MS3 starts and 23K, and the Neon SRT-4 started at 19K. So what? That's just ricer math. Don't bring ricer math into an argument about the performance of a stock vehicle.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
I'll take my commment back about the SRT-4 being a POS but it's still way off the road racing capablities of a speed3.
fstms3 3 years ago
You're just a delusional fanboy, MS3 and SRT4 are comparable in all aspects.
yonkersracing 3 years ago
Handling isn't just about slalom and skid pad #'s by the way. The MS3 has a very balanced chassis, very strong brakes, great stirring, etc. All of which are better than that of the SRT-4. I promise you the MS3 is far more capable at producing way faster lap times. It's faster than a VW R32 / Honda S2000 / WRX/ GTI / and it's not too far off the pace of an EVO. I'm sorry if you think a SRT-4 is as capable as a MS3 in road racing you're seriously misinformed / delusional.
fstms3 3 years ago
HAHAHAHA! MS3 is not too far off pace from an EVO, yet, the SRT-4 is way off from the MS3. You said it again! You're such a fanboi.
And again, I can whoop your ass in an autocross in your MS3 with a regular neon. I guarantee it.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph (163 km/h)
fstms3 3 years ago
"Probably the most outstanding number is the 60-0 braking distance of 116 feet. This often overlooked bit of data proves how thorough Mazda's overhaul of the 3 actually is. And even though this is a single-stop number, our abuse of the brakes during aggressive street and track driving proves them worthy of contending with excessive heat. At the drag strip, we recorded a 0-60 time of 5.9 seconds and a quarter-mile time of 14.2 seconds at 100 mph."
yonkersracing 3 years ago
MS3 - 0.88 Skidpad, 14.2 @ 100 1/4 mile, 5.9 0-60, 68.2 Slalom
yonkersracing 3 years ago
"One look reveals the probable character of the beast, so let's just cut right to the quick. The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph."
yonkersracing 3 years ago
SRT4 - 14.2 @ 102 1/4 mile, 5.6 0-60, 0.85 Skidpad, 69 Slalom ....this was an 03 SRT-4, I think the 04 is slightly better because it comes stock with a LSD
yonkersracing 3 years ago
This shows the SRT-4 and MS3 are comparable no matter what MS3 fanboys say they cannot change facts.
yonkersracing 3 years ago
Why are you such a delusional fanboi? Is Mazda paying you or something? Yeah, the MS3's 0.83 g skidpad run and the fact that the professionals at road and track said, and I quote, "it's not a very good track car". The cars are similar. Get over it. I'm also willing to bet I can whip your MS3 ass in an autocross with a regular neon because you have no experience. Please go learn how to drive for real.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
There you go referencing the worst #'s ever recorded again fag!!!!!!!!!!! SRT-4 is a PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!! Git over it already you cock sucking bitch.
fstms3 3 years ago
LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fstms3 3 years ago
Dude, just give the crack pipe a break! You're SRT-4 isn't good for anything straight line accleration. Do some research. You keep referring to an old article that show's the lowest #'s ever recorded on the speed3.
fstms3 3 years ago
I don't understand fstms3's comment of "You're SRT-4 isn't good for anything straight line accleration." Where did you learn English? Why did you say "You are SRT-4"? That make no sense what so ever. Also, "accleration"? I don't know how you're supposed to pronounce that word. Oh well, I don't know why I'm surprised, though. Nothing else you said makes since either.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
OMG onoz! I make a few spelling errors on youtube!!! I don't give a shit. You have nothing else to add so you go looking for stupid shit like spelling errors. I'm in here with a couple delusional shit box SRT-4 neon fanbois. A MS3 will rape a SRT-4 on the track and or any where there's curves involved for that matter. That's a fact get over it fuck stick. Only place a SRT-4 has a chance at beating a MS3 is at the drag strip
fstms3 3 years ago
The funny thing is you calling us SRT4 fanboys because we are saying and proving that an SRT-4 and MS3 are comparable in all aspects...you then go on to compare the MS3 to an Evo, which is definitely not comparable in any way shape or form. You lose son.
yonkersracing 3 years ago
She still doesn't get it. I suggested she get a Mazdaspeed tattoo. That way, maybe in a few years when she grows up, she'll have that painful reminder of how retarded she is being about a hunk of steel that she did not design or have any part of producing.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
A few spelling errors?!?!?!?! I think you need to go back and read some of your posts.
So, which autocross event are we going to meet at so I can put your in your place physically in addition to our fun little conversations?
Oh, and I have a perfect analogy for trying to discuss cars with you. Trying to tell you how your MS3 performs realistically is like trying to convince a dog that its shit tastes bad and they shouldn't eat it. HAHAHA!
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Ha-ha this vedio is lame as shit to. The MS3 had traffic infront of it. Nice try!
fstms3 3 years ago
Wouldn't have made much of a difference, the MS3 was simply outclassed.
yonkersracing 3 years ago
You know what's lame? Your spelling, that's what. Anyways, thanks for posting what was said 8 months ago. Good job. You're mentally as slow as a Japanese station wagon. HAHAHAHAHA!
And, just because I like laughing at you, tell me again how the MS3 "wipes the floor" with an SRT-4, yet hangs with an EVO. That's you're best fanboi comment do date. LMAO!
RZEZZ 3 years ago
The SRT-4 Neon handles no where near as good as a Mazdaspee3. So of you folks are seriously misinformed!
fstms3 3 years ago
If the SRT-4 handles "no where near as good as a Mazdaspee3", then why are the skidpad, salomon, and lap times SIMILAR?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Dude you're seriously smoking dope. A MS3 will wipe the floor with a SRT-4 in a track race with corners. period.
fstms3 3 years ago
..Says the gal with no track experience. The cars are similar. Get over it.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
The only aspect of performance an SRT-4 can keep up with a MS3 is stright line accleration. That's it, period.
fstms3 3 years ago
If acceleration is the only catigory the two cars compete in, then why are track times, skidpad, and slalom speeds similar? Get some track experience and come back and talk to me, fanboi.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
BTW, trying to discuss with you, fstms3, is like trying to argue with someone one whether or not coke or pepsi tastes better, when your only experience is you've never had a coke and only tasted pepsi one time 2 years ago. You really need to grow up and drop and mindless fanboi act. I know your type well. You're young, you haven't owned many cars, and have absolutely no performance driving training or experience. I think it's really time for you to go out and learn how to drive on a track.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Track times, skidpad, and slalom speeds aren't similar. The Speed3 wipes the floor with that piece of shit SRT-4. SRT-4 is just a FWD muscle car good for 1/4's and that's just about it. THe MS3 is a much better over all performer than the neon. Go do some research kid and get back with me.
fstms3 3 years ago
fstms3 3 years ago
Why are you posting the same thing that's been posted in this thread a million times already? And what is a Mazdaspeed3 GT?
yonkersracing 3 years ago
srt4 needs stage 4 kit to beat a mazada speed3 has turbo and intercooler stock. Turbo is restricted until 3rd gear thats when it starts to spool. Any way you put a dodge neon is just a crapy old neon. Ugly and cheap
hip08 3 years ago
lmao is there even such thing as stage 4 SRT4?
yonkersracing 3 years ago
Well, AGP has a "stage 4" kit, which is their packaged 50 trim kit. So, there's no factory stage 4, it's aftermarket.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
FYI, an SRT-4 has a turbo and intercooler STOCK as well. Way to show your ignorance! You win!
RZEZZ 3 years ago
I tell you what, fanboy; lets play a game. You find the best PUBLISHED MS3 skidpad number and the worst SRT-4 number. I'll find the worst MS3 number, and the best SRT-4 number, then we'll average the two and see if the two are similar. OK? (I can't wait to hear another MS3 fanboi excuse).
RZEZZ 3 years ago
That shut em up
yonkersracing 3 years ago
Why do you keep posting the same ONE test along with a wikipedia quote? You can't just hang your hat on one favorable test. You have to look at the overall average. As for the one test you keep posting over and over and over again, yes the MS3 did well. Just as well as a Neon SRT-4 would have done. I would like to see a Neon vs stationwagon shootout, but it won't happen because the Neon ended after the MS3 came out.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
What gives you the perception that the SRT-4 does not handle as well? They have similar skidpad numbers. The SRT-4 is also 300 lbs lighter. They also feel similar driving them. Have you even driven ANY vehicle on a road course before? You appear to be lacking that knowledge.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
sedansi0777 3 years ago
sedansi0777 3 years ago
The SRT-4 isn't close to an MS3, but the MS3 is "not far from an EVO"??? Boy is that some ignorant thinking. Please tell us all why you think the MS3 is so much better than an SRT-4 when the performance numbers are very similar and the SRT-4 is 300 lbs lighter. Seriously, have you driven both cars? You appear to be a giant mag racer without any seat time. Have you ever even driven on a track (no, gocarts don't count)?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
I've driven an srt4 and it's not even close to a Mazdaspeed3 in handling. The only aspect of performance the srt4 can match with a MS3 is straight line accleration. My agrument is valid and your obviously the person who hasn't driven both.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
The performance #'s are only similiar for acceration not handling. The Mazdaspeed3 owns the srt4 in handling, period.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
accleration*
sedansi0777 3 years ago
fstms3fanboi, I'm making no sense?! I'm not the one trying to establish ricer math as a valid argument. And, professer, a modded MS3 would not have a warranty either, so shove that in your boy hole. All I'm saying is if you wanna go and bring ricer math into the equation, a fox body stang and older civic would crush an MS3 AND be reliable and a nice to drive vehicle. Just leave the ricer math at the door, ok?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
lol @ you mazdaspeed fanboys comparing an Evo to a MS3
yonkersracing 3 years ago
lol@ you for posting a shit video!
sedansi0777 3 years ago
it's clearly only shit to you because the MS3 lost...the SRT4 had big turbo and MS3 has intake only...that's what happens
yonkersracing 3 years ago
fstms3 3 years ago
Off to bed fanboi's. I'll leave you with this one more time to cry about and make excuses for.
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
fstms3 3 years ago
There you go again posting the Lowest #'s ever recorded.
fstms3 3 years ago
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
fstms3 3 years ago
That's nice. The SRT-4 has posted just as high of skidpad numbers, but also a 13.8 1/4 mile time.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Negative!!! SRT4 isn't even close in handling. YOu are really uninformed sir!
fstms3 3 years ago
Motortrend (June 2008) - 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR - Lateral Acceleration = 1.01 g's (avg). The Mazda is "not far from" that, right? HAHAHAHA!
RZEZZ 3 years ago
That's the NEW EVO moron! I'm not talking about the NEW EVO. Howver the NEW EVO only runs the 1/4 in like 14 flat @ 100
fstms3 3 years ago
Thanks for clarifying the type of EVO and your excuse.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
As far as the EVO, a Mazdaspeed3 would need suspension MODS and better tires to post similiar lap times. Even after you "MODDED" the Mazdaspeed3 enough to the point where it could post faster times than a EVO it would still end up costing less money then a EVO. Why is this so f'n hard to understand?
sedansi0777 3 years ago
It's not "hard to understand", but it IS ricer math. You can build a 90's Civic that will put 500 hp to the tires and pull 1.0 g's on the skidpad and still have money left over compared to the MS3. You can also have a fox body mustang that can lift the front tires (not spin them) and have money left over as well. Why do you insist on bring ricer math into an argument about factory performance?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Exactly and they would still be shit and without a warranty / unrealiable, etc. You are making obsolutely no sense.
fstms3 3 years ago
Faster Than a Mazdaspeed 3
The 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS uses up just 5.8 seconds accelerating to 60 mph, and it goes through the quarter-mile in 14 seconds flat at 103 mph. Even the Mazdaspeed 3 can't keep pace with this Cobalt, as it posts a quarter-mile of 14.2 seconds at 100.1 mph and 14.5 at 98.7 mph. The Chevy's main advantage is that it weighs 200 pounds less.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
That's only one source. You know how many source tested the speed3????
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Gee. Short term memory much? If you forgot, I posted 3 different sources.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
It's not just the Mazdaspeed3's handling that make it fast on a road course it's all the low/ mid range tq it has to pull itself thru the corners and down the straight aways. Perfect example is the S2000, yes it handles better than the MS3 but the MS3 can still outrun one mainly because of it's tq advantage.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
sedansi0777 3 years ago
This RZEZZ charactor must have a hardon for the Mazdaspeed3
fstms3 3 years ago
Road & Track (June 2007)
Mazdaspeed3: lat grip. .91 g's
fstms3 3 years ago
The MS3 is more a "road racing" car than a "autocross" car. And yes it does handle quite well for a sport compact and with all the tq it has it well simply walk away from many so called sports cars
fstms3 3 years ago
I would hope the EVO would be better anyway it's like 10k more!
sedansi0777 3 years ago
So you wanna go and bring the ricer math into this?! Ok. Then, a used Civic and Fox body mustang are the best cars EVER!!!! LMAO!
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Sure you could do that but in the end all you have is a used piece of shit car that can run fast 1/4's without a warranty. The Mazdaspeed3is quite a nice overall car and for 23-25k it makes it even better.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Just so we're clear, we're talking about stock performance and not vehicle cost, right? No more ricer math, ok?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
And the EVO isn't "way better" than the MS3 in handling. Better? Yes but it doesn't complete embrass it like it would a srt4 on the track
fstms3 3 years ago
Ok. Then by your logic the MS3 isn't "way better" than a Toyota Camry. Why is it that you keep making excuse after excuse for your beloved station wagon?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Not really a "station wagon" as you like to refer it to. I guess that makes a VW a "station wagon" as well because they're shapes are quite similiar.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Yes, the GTI is a wagon.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
RZEZZ 3 years ago
There you go again posting the lowest #'s ever recorded by noob driver. Road and Track in their (June 2007) recorded .91 g's for the speed3. explain that you f'n douche sickle? It was the f'n driver.
fstms3 3 years ago
RZEZZ why do you insist on posting the lowest #'s ever recorded on the MS3? Most Mags have it running somewhere between .87 -.92 g's. That .83 g's you keep posting about was obviously tested with a noob of a driver.
fstms3 3 years ago
FSTms3fanboi- I've posted 3 different mag numbers. Why do you keep hanging your hat on the highest numbers ever recorded by an MS3?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
You keep posting the 3 lowest #'s you dipshit!
sedansi0777 3 years ago
And you keep posting the highest one. You gotta get a representative average, you know.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Road and Track (June 07)
Mazdaspeed3: lateral grip = .91 g's
sedansi0777 3 years ago
The Cobalt SS beat the Mazdaspeed 3's lap time at the Ring.
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Mazdaspeed3 was driven by an inexperienced driver on an open day. So know the Cobalt ss didn't beat shit.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
no*
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Man, you have an EXCUSE for everything, don't you?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Ever heard of Car and Driver's 'Lightning Lap' test? Look it up, the MS3 is 4 seconds faster around VIR than the Cobalt SS, 3 seconds faster than an RX-8, 9 seconds faster than a GTI. In fact, the MS3 is almost as fast as an Evo.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Have you ever heard of Car and Driver's road test? Car and Driver (May 2007): Lateral grip = 0.85 g's.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
They've tested it more than once and all your are doing is pointed out the lowest #'s ever achieved you f'n twat!
sedansi0777 3 years ago
That's it. Get mad! That will make your station wagon faster. HAHAHAHA!
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
RZEZZ 3 years ago
WHAAA! That video doesn't have the outcome I want to see. WHAAA! Those mag's don't show the results I want to see. WHAAA! An SRT-4 can't handle as well as an MS3 even though that's what the numbers say because that's not what I want to hear. WHAAA! I keep telling everyone that my turbo Mazda station wagon is like an EVO, but nobody will listen to me. WHAAA!
RZEZZ 3 years ago
YOu are smoking dope sir! SRT-4 can't handler nearly as well as a MS3 that's a fact and the #'s prove that. You keep pointing out the lowest #'s ever recording by some noob driver. And yes the MS3 is all that far off for a EVO. with a few simple mods it would be right there with it. Lay off the crack pipe!
sedansi0777 3 years ago
*Edit* handler, handle*; recording, recorded* is, is not*
sedansi0777 3 years ago
So, which numbers prove the SRT-4 can't handle nearly as well as the Mazdaspeed 3's? Is it the Mazdaspeeds' 300 pounds of extra heft (that's over 10% heavier), the Mazda's lower skidpad numbers, or the Mazda's slower slalom?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Dude you need to lay off the crack pipe if you think that a MS3 doesn't hand the srt4 it's ass in the handling dept.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
I don't "think". It's a fact. The SRT-4 can do way better than 0.83'g on the skidpad. Go drive both, and you'll see. And, yes, the EVO is WAY better than both.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
You obviously haven't driven a MS3
sedansi0777 3 years ago
I've driven them all, kiddo. I'm telling you right now that the MS3, SRT-4, GTI, Civic SI, Focus SVT, Cobalt SS, etc... are all decent handing cars. In an autocross, it's a driver's race. None in that list would be what a car enthusiast would call a great handling car.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
This is a lame ass video! The srt4 is clearly modded and there is way too much traffic to race. MS3 had to hit the brakes to keep from hitting on coming traffic.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
RZEZZ - You are posting the lowest #'s ever recorded on the MS3. Why don't you post the top 3??? You are a clown sir.
fstms3 3 years ago
fstms3 3 years ago
This is true.
fstms3 3 years ago
Let's recap:
MS3 fanboi (aka sedansi0777): The Mazdaspeed 3 is not far from an EVO.
Motortrend: Lateral grip = 0.86 g's.
Car and Driver (May 2007): Lateral grip = 0.85 g's.
Road and Track (Dec 2006): Lateral grip = 0.83 g's. Quote, "the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. "
Que music "One of these things is not like the others..."
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Edmunds: In fact, with a little more grip, it would be hard for any Evo to escape a well-driven Mazdaspeed 3.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Road and track: the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
The SRT-4 is no match for a MS3 in the handling dept (MS3 would roast a SRT-4 around a track). And yes a MS3 isn't that far off from an EVO in handling. With slightly better grip (better tires) and maybe a coil-over suspension it would be really close or the MS3 would end up ahead and still cost thousands more. Your statements are pathetic and unfounded. Get a life!
sedansi0777 3 years ago
*Edit* MS3 would cost thousands less
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Please explain why you would think a MS3 would "roast" an SRT-4 around a track when the SRT-4 posts a very slight advantage in acceleration, lateral grip, and slalom speed? Reality check: The 2 are very close, neither would "roast" the other, and both are only "decent" road handlers.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
You are picking the lowest #'s ever recorded you f'n moron!!!! Mazdaspeed3 is buy far the best sport compact to date, no contest. Let me dig up some reviews for your sorry ignorant ass...
sedansi0777 3 years ago
...and you're picking the highest, fanboi. I actually posted 3 mags if you go back and look. They all show "decent" handling. No matter how much you want it to be, it's not an EVO.
Road and track: the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
In our most recent test ["Hot Hatches in the Roaring 20s," December 2007] the speedy 3 hit 60 mph in 5.6 seconds and covered the quarter in 14.2 seconds at 100 mph.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Why do you keep posting about 0-60 when we're talking about handling???? (BTW, the SRT-4's fastest mag time was a 13.8).
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Edmunds: In fact, with a little more grip, it would be hard for any Evo to escape a well-driven Mazdaspeed 3.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
If you'd ever drive an EVO/STi, you'd realize how silly that statement is.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
I have it this is all that much of a difference with more grip. Go sale your srt-4 and buy a MS3 so you can stop lusting over it.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
The Neon SRT-4 has posted higher lateral grip and faster acceleration times in stock form.
I haven't owned an SRT-4 for a while now. I just like correcting your misconceptions and ignorant statements.
I'm still laughing at your "not far from an EVO" comment. :) What's next? A ZO6?
RZEZZ 3 years ago
sedansi0777 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I rest my case!
sedansi0777 3 years ago
The Mazdaspeed 3 outruns the Honda S2000 and isn't all that from from a Lancer Evolution and you think it's handling is "just okay"?
This was around Laguna Seca
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
sedansi0777 3 years ago
You think a Mazda 3 isn't that far from a EVO?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! There's nothing else to say to you as I can see you live in a world of twisted reality. You keep saying "several road tests" but won't say which one. I posted 3. Face it, the MS3 is just a diecent handling car.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Yes it's not that far from a EVO. I'm really sorry that you are butt hurt from this fact.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
sedansi0777 3 years ago
These ms3 owners are gay. They cry when they see true vids like this one. Shut up, and stop crying. It happens. They swear they can beat any and every srt-4 out there. Get real losers. Here is my vid of me at the track running one with a bad 60' from me and i still pull that thing and missed a gear! (enter crybaby excuses here ^)
lilmama9978 3 years ago
Okay you idiot, the MS3 was held up by traffic!!! The only way a SRT-4 POS is going to bet a MS3 is with MODs. IF you MOD one you gotta MOD the other. MS3 would flat out embrass the POS SRT-4 is the twisties and in any other situation.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Stock for stock I think they're pretty close...this SRT4 was a little more modded
yonkersracing 3 years ago
A race means 1 car wins and 1 car loses and it doesn't matter who's fart muffler is louder. One thing I do know is at the strip I have seen bone stock srt-4's roast vipers depending on the driver. I hate neons period so I would not say it if it weren't true.
deerslayer25 3 years ago
Honestly, why would anyone buy a Neon? Sure, it's fast in a straight, strap a turbo on a grocery cart and it will be fast. Bucket of poo.
rotaryrhythm 4 years ago
Honestly, why would anyone buy a Mazda 3? Sure, it's fast in a straight, strap a turbo on a station wagon and it will be fast. Bucket of poo.
RZEZZ 4 years ago
LOLZ
yonkersracing 4 years ago
yah but at least the insides dont look like a bucket of poo too, but hey, if we want to have a pissing contest, Im in lol
imitokay 4 years ago
drive a mazdaspeed 3 then say that... its handling is amazing.
lujoebonjo 4 years ago
The MS3 is far from amazing. You need to drive a real sports car if that's what you think. Road and Track tested the SRT-4 at 0.85g's skidpad and 67.3 mph slalom; the MS3 was 0.83g's and 63.5 mph. Both are just "ok". Here's a quote from Road and Track, "Yet the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. But while it's not a very good track car, it is a terrific road car..."
RZEZZ 4 years ago
YOu are fucking smoking dope sir!
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
sedansi0777 3 years ago
I am not smoking anything. That was a Road and Track article and real world test. Check for yourself I hate to get into it, but the sooner you realize that the MS3 is only a decent handling car (along with the GTI, Civic SI, SRT-4, SE-R, etc), the better off you'll be. I also went to the car and driver website, found the May 2007 test of the MS3, and I'm looking at the test sheet right now. "Power Toys" article. Road handling says 0.85 g's. What are you smoking? HA! Liar.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
Here's the facts once again!
You don't go with the worst results tested by one magazine.
Several road tests have the Mazdaspeed3 going 0-60 mph in under 6 seconds with skidpad numbers in the .87 to .91 range. In Car and Driver magazine's May 2007 issue, the Mazdaspeed3 recorded its quickest acceleration times, completing the 0-60 mph sprint in 5.4 seconds, with a quarter mile time of 14 second flat at 101 mph
sedansi0777 3 years ago
Facts?! Well, here they are; MS3 road handling: Motortrend = 0.86 g's. Road and Track (Dec 2006) = 0.83 g's. Car and Driver (May 2007) = 0.85 g's. There are 3 sourses for you. You can't just pick and choose what you WANT to hear.
RZEZZ 3 years ago
The MS3 is far from amazing. You need to drive a real sports car if that's what you think. Road and Track tested the SRT-4 at 0.85g's skidpad and 67.3 mph slalom; the MS3 was 0.83g's and 63.5 mph. Both are just "ok". Here's a quote from Road and Track, "Yet the handling numbers are only decent, not stellar-the Mazdaspeed3's 0.83g around the skidpad and 63.5 mph through the slalom fall short of Civic Si and GTI stats. But while it's not a very good track car, it is a terrific road car..."
RZEZZ 4 years ago
in the end the srt4 still won.
Jhsrt4 4 years ago
watch thats probably just a mazda 3
ballin4eva87 4 years ago
Nope, we know the owner...nice try though.
yonkersracing 4 years ago
Ever thought that the poster didn't know the mods at the time and instead of posting MISINFORMATION like the majority of people have done in this thread, he just titled it "SRT4 vs. MS3"
Flame someone for posting something FALSE not because people make ASSUMPTIONS, CAN'T READ and are wrong.
yonkersracing 4 years ago
yea the srt sound heavly modded when ms3 sounds stock
nolimit69757 4 years ago
its still a stupid video, race without traffic, this is dumb.
Alexsered 4 years ago
no one was hurt buddy, but thanks for your concern
yonkersracing 4 years ago