I really admire Mr. Meyerowitz, but everytime I watch this video I cant help thinking the shot he composes for the view camera is a non-image. Too close, bad light. Id love to see if this shot of the tree ever made it, and to be proven wrong!
What i think is a really interesting point about joel meyerowitz is that at his core, he is ultimately inspired by the work of Robert Frank, and the work of Gary Winogrand, 2 of the best street people/street photographers, i would say ever. And he has no problems saying that.
In my experience of people on my photography course and photographer friends always close their minds to other photographers work, because they think it will inspire their work, and somehow they would be copying them.
OK since you've started reading this its too late to stop. in 2001 a 15 year old girl was killed in a clearing in scotland. nobody knows who or what killed her but there is scratch marks all over her body and she looks horrific. she is said to roam around the world and can go 2 places at once. if you dont post this comment on 5 other videos or websites in ten minutes she will suddenly attack you and kill you in some gruesome way. this is scary coz it happened to my friend. please
@vichiousfishes The Hasselblad H2 or H3 he is using can use either med format film or a digital back, either way, an excellent camera. I've used it with film and an Aptus Leaf back and have gotten excellent results on both.
@netando Just bought an H2. Not sure if it is worth the money using film. I must admit, I am thinking about returning it and going Leica M8 instead. Anyway, what film do you think works best with the Fuji glass?
@ziryab92 For me it depends on what I'm photographing, Fuji tends to be warmer, Kodak VC is nice too. If you can get your hands on it, Agfa made some nice B&W. But if you want my top choice I'd say Velvia 50, I do allot of landscape though.
I don't care who he is, I wasn't impressed by anything in the video. And taking a "good" picture is subjective, and yes i've been interested in photography for about 10 yrs, and no I wasn't searching for leica. My statement still remains.
@ledheavy26 of course your statement still remains smart boy...
one piece of advice though : when you make this kind of comment and then admit that you don't even know who meyerowitz is, you shouldn't specify that you've been into photography for 10 years ; that's just embarassing.
You call this video a waste of money, i call your 10 years of photography a waste of time if you've never had interest for other's work.
It's just a difference in opinion, I didn't say I didn't know who he was, I said I don't "CARE" who he is. I'm sorry you get off on being an internet douchebag.
@ledheavy26 And FYI, "le jeu de paume" is the french national museum for photography. Just owning a camera and photoshop won't get u an exhibition there.
I think scrutinizing minutia with a computer program and ascosiated regalia yields a final print that is both a photograph and a painting. I prefer a straight print, myself, and do fine with it. But, so have a century + of pros, so I can't take the credit for realizing that.
Darkroom is great but times are changing, digital as vertually distroyed the livelyhoods of many photographers so why not use some of what everybody else is, personally I shoot 5x4 and very high res scan the neg/tranny because I can easily remove that hair/dust that found its way in but I dont enhance digitally so I am still a purist in that sense
You have just proved how much of an idiot you are my friend. lol
The darkroom is a compromise for him, that is what saying! He knows the score and that he has more artistic control over the image in PS, more can be brought out of the film. (I personally don't like his images, more a Crewdson fan)
I've been a photographer for 50 years. Google: Jeremy Taylor.
To all those nay sayers on this board, I suggest you read Eckhart Tolle and came to understand that almost everything is a gift. Joel has added something to photography, but you may have to have a more generous spirit to see it.
This video helps me to make the transition from the dark to the light of what's happening NOW.
For everyone that doesn't like joel's work, well that's nice to know... but saying his work isn't good, is pretty much saying you can do better. When any of you have a name so well known any gallery in the world will know, tell me and I'll say you were right.
I would love to be his assistant since he has tons of experience, more than probably everyone who will watch this video. He is exactly what photography is about.... If you like something enough, why not take a picture of it?
shane6003PQ: No matter who you are or what experience you have in a certain field you are always entitled to an opinion. It should, however, be delivered with respect.
Not liking some ones work certainly does not equal claiming to be their superior, why would it? Ex: I've always disliked Y.J.Malmsteen but would never claim to be his superior at guitar playing, I'm mediocre at best. Still I am entitled to dislike his work.
Agreed though that some people could be more humble in their opinions.
You're absolutely right Fredrik. I also do not like some work by other photographers... but when I wrote this, I was directing it to Elferoz who called Meyerowitz photography "mediocre at best" which is in my opinion totally wrong.
Sorry if It seemed like it was directed at everyone... I guess I should have made my post directly toward elferoz.
shane6003PQ: It's nice to actually have a normal discussion, that's very rare on Youtube. Usually it's always f you this and f you that as soon as people disagree.
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He seems to be just another pretentious boring snob...his assistant/intern/tool looks suicidally depressed...understandably. I could take about 15minutes of listening to this clown masturbate over his own images before I'd make him wear his DEARDORF 8x10 like a duncecap. Look at this guy "...feeling the space..." at 1:55. What a son of a bitch. I almost wish this was Christopher Guest's next mockumentary.
oops. typ-o. Take a look at the work of legendary photographers such as Henri Cartier-Bresson, Garry Winogrand, and Elliott Erwitt. Then ask yourself who is your fav.
Why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself and quit insulting others. Every individual has their own tastes. If someone likes the work of Meyerowitz then so be it. I think you should leave criticisms to the critics who get paid for it as a 9-5 job unlike you.
God, if you think he's in people's faces, watch the Bruce Gilden video. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking pictures of people on the street. Besides, you're all on CCTVs all day long anyway.
I think Joel's work is awesome. Not only that, but he's a really nice guy and his love for photography shows.
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I second the notion that his work doesn't do anything for me, his street photography is annoying, overly in your face, very much just click the shutter and see if we get something...
I think this is the first photographer that has totally unimpressed me 100%. There is nothing redeeming or pleasing about his work. No intrigue, no vision, just blah nothing. A lot of hype and a lot of commercial endorsement for HP equal 'sellout'.
As a large format photographer, I'd say he's not doing a lot of "composition" with those 35mm street shots. It's spray and pray. Too bad we didn't get to see any of his photos done with the view camera.... It takes real vision to find, setup, and expose large format film and make a meaningful photo.
Of the photos shown, I wasn't so impressed myself. Anyone can make "great" street prints in NYC with a Leica and a 24mm lens.
Obviously, you have no idea of what is composition or street photography.... Do you know the work of Cartier-Bresson, Robert Frank, Lee Friedlander, etc? Easy? You have to be kidding!
Obviously Cortelyou44 you have not spend enough time either with Meyerowitz's BW or with his color street photography. How much have you seen?
If you have seen enough then you may have noticed:
1-there is no chance most of the work could have been done with a large format camera. He was at the time if not reinventing at least reassessing the decisive moment and giving it, with others of course, its American identity.
2-his work has its own quality, style, different from works by Winogrand, Friedlander or Pappageorge... in other word it is not just uphazard snap-shots.
3-it takes a whole lot of vison, preparedness, intuition and overall anticipation to shoot in that style. I would never venture in underestimating the work, experience and vision that any good work requires. The rest is just tools.
The best of us pick the tool they need for a specific project or adapt to the tool in order for their vision to make most of it. There is not one tool superior to another one in the abstract. Specific genres of photography require specific tools thence people have evolved through various genres, or going back and forth between them, depending on their inspiration, use various appropriate tools be it Leicas M, SLRs, Hasselblads, M7 (Mamiyas),...
612s, 617s, 4x5, 8x10... Vision is what drives one, not the tool. A tool is a tool.
As for anyone being able "to make great prints [???] in NYC with a Leica and a 24 mm it must be as true as anyone being able to make great photographs in NYC with an 8x10. ??!!
really??? I wanna be his assistant. i dont need money. i just wanna carry his stuff and if he needs to drink or eat somethin, i'll go and pick 'em up for him. if he wants, i could clean his home and organize all of his socks and tshirts. I really wanna learn lots of stuff about photography from him. Let me know...
I really admire Mr. Meyerowitz, but everytime I watch this video I cant help thinking the shot he composes for the view camera is a non-image. Too close, bad light. Id love to see if this shot of the tree ever made it, and to be proven wrong!
mresc1 11 months ago
What i think is a really interesting point about joel meyerowitz is that at his core, he is ultimately inspired by the work of Robert Frank, and the work of Gary Winogrand, 2 of the best street people/street photographers, i would say ever. And he has no problems saying that.
In my experience of people on my photography course and photographer friends always close their minds to other photographers work, because they think it will inspire their work, and somehow they would be copying them.
rorrt 1 year ago
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OK since you've started reading this its too late to stop. in 2001 a 15 year old girl was killed in a clearing in scotland. nobody knows who or what killed her but there is scratch marks all over her body and she looks horrific. she is said to roam around the world and can go 2 places at once. if you dont post this comment on 5 other videos or websites in ten minutes she will suddenly attack you and kill you in some gruesome way. this is scary coz it happened to my friend. please
dababicrayon 1 year ago
Joel Meyerowitz with a real camera very inspirational
TheDesignSociety 1 year ago
I respect good stuff, but how can I scale this down to me life?
All I know are those 50-150 year old B & W things that totally show total detail.
I went to a gallery and was blown away by the quality, but it cost over $100,000 in digital equipment I am sure.
I feel like going to a yard sale for a pre-basic camera now.
I like your voice and the clairity and encouragement you have provided, it's entertainment for me, I'm just simple person.
Best Regards
VALMARIESASK 1 year ago
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vichiousfishes 1 year ago
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vichiousfishes 1 year ago
@vichiousfishes The Hasselblad H2 or H3 he is using can use either med format film or a digital back, either way, an excellent camera. I've used it with film and an Aptus Leaf back and have gotten excellent results on both.
netando 1 year ago
@netando Just bought an H2. Not sure if it is worth the money using film. I must admit, I am thinking about returning it and going Leica M8 instead. Anyway, what film do you think works best with the Fuji glass?
ziryab92 10 months ago
@ziryab92 For me it depends on what I'm photographing, Fuji tends to be warmer, Kodak VC is nice too. If you can get your hands on it, Agfa made some nice B&W. But if you want my top choice I'd say Velvia 50, I do allot of landscape though.
netando 10 months ago
j.m.'s work is genius....that's all i have to say.
cda4409 1 year ago
Jibba jabba, shitty pictures, lots of money wasted. Another reason why owning a camera and having photoshop doesn't make you a photographer.
ledheavy26 1 year ago
@ledheavy26 dude! you know who that guy is? you know what makes a good picture? you actualy know anything about photography??
Let me guess, you found this video serching for "leica" didn't you?
gurunico 1 year ago
I don't care who he is, I wasn't impressed by anything in the video. And taking a "good" picture is subjective, and yes i've been interested in photography for about 10 yrs, and no I wasn't searching for leica. My statement still remains.
ledheavy26 1 year ago
@ledheavy26 of course your statement still remains smart boy...
one piece of advice though : when you make this kind of comment and then admit that you don't even know who meyerowitz is, you shouldn't specify that you've been into photography for 10 years ; that's just embarassing.
You call this video a waste of money, i call your 10 years of photography a waste of time if you've never had interest for other's work.
gurunico 1 year ago
It's just a difference in opinion, I didn't say I didn't know who he was, I said I don't "CARE" who he is. I'm sorry you get off on being an internet douchebag.
ledheavy26 1 year ago
@ledheavy26 And FYI, "le jeu de paume" is the french national museum for photography. Just owning a camera and photoshop won't get u an exhibition there.
gurunico 1 year ago
I think scrutinizing minutia with a computer program and ascosiated regalia yields a final print that is both a photograph and a painting. I prefer a straight print, myself, and do fine with it. But, so have a century + of pros, so I can't take the credit for realizing that.
chompychomps 2 years ago
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another fucker pervert digging the streets stealing people's faces and emotions
assa123assa123 2 years ago
@assa123assa123 yeah, photography is gonna steal your soul!! put your life in jesus hands!! now!! jerk.
gurunico 1 year ago
if I'm not mistaken about the video in question, you have no idea of ethics in photography. probably in life too
assa123assa123 1 year ago
Darkroom is great but times are changing, digital as vertually distroyed the livelyhoods of many photographers so why not use some of what everybody else is, personally I shoot 5x4 and very high res scan the neg/tranny because I can easily remove that hair/dust that found its way in but I dont enhance digitally so I am still a purist in that sense
stevevox1 2 years ago
I love Mr. Meyerowitz. He came into his own in the 70's when he began to explore the play between natural and artificial light.
You can not like his work but you can't call him a sell and/or pretend to be better than him. I don't see HP calling you to do a commercial.
vichiousfishes 2 years ago 6
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Sellout + mediocre photographs ( post 70s)
BobbyPuun 2 years ago
Darkrrom is a compromise for JM cuz he is not very good at it.
BobbyPuun 2 years ago
There is no way you can say you have more control over a print in the darkroom than you do in PS............dime baaaaaaar!
Scudbook27 2 years ago
Hey Knucklehead, STFU.
BobbyPuun 2 years ago
You have just proved how much of an idiot you are my friend. lol
The darkroom is a compromise for him, that is what saying! He knows the score and that he has more artistic control over the image in PS, more can be brought out of the film. (I personally don't like his images, more a Crewdson fan)
Scudbook27 2 years ago
darkroom is for the truelly skilled, who dont need photoshop.
DrBubbaa 2 years ago
joel meyerowitz never fails to inspire me.
fogboys03 2 years ago
I love to watch artists at work.
heyyyitsdebbie 2 years ago
hands down some of the most inspirational words about photography
DanLorth 2 years ago
I've been a photographer for 50 years. Google: Jeremy Taylor.
To all those nay sayers on this board, I suggest you read Eckhart Tolle and came to understand that almost everything is a gift. Joel has added something to photography, but you may have to have a more generous spirit to see it.
This video helps me to make the transition from the dark to the light of what's happening NOW.
jt83yt09 2 years ago
For everyone that doesn't like joel's work, well that's nice to know... but saying his work isn't good, is pretty much saying you can do better. When any of you have a name so well known any gallery in the world will know, tell me and I'll say you were right.
I would love to be his assistant since he has tons of experience, more than probably everyone who will watch this video. He is exactly what photography is about.... If you like something enough, why not take a picture of it?
shane6003PQ 2 years ago 2
shane6003PQ: No matter who you are or what experience you have in a certain field you are always entitled to an opinion. It should, however, be delivered with respect.
Not liking some ones work certainly does not equal claiming to be their superior, why would it? Ex: I've always disliked Y.J.Malmsteen but would never claim to be his superior at guitar playing, I'm mediocre at best. Still I am entitled to dislike his work.
Agreed though that some people could be more humble in their opinions.
FredrikSvensson1979 2 years ago
You're absolutely right Fredrik. I also do not like some work by other photographers... but when I wrote this, I was directing it to Elferoz who called Meyerowitz photography "mediocre at best" which is in my opinion totally wrong.
Sorry if It seemed like it was directed at everyone... I guess I should have made my post directly toward elferoz.
shane6003PQ 2 years ago
shane6003PQ: It's nice to actually have a normal discussion, that's very rare on Youtube. Usually it's always f you this and f you that as soon as people disagree.
And I get your point too by the way.
Regards
/Fredrik
FredrikSvensson1979 2 years ago
Nice video. Unfortunately, it's basically just an advertisement for a printer and ink set.
ZoneIII 3 years ago 2
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Elferoz1959 3 years ago
Does anybody knows about the name of the scanner?
Thanks.
vidapublicaciones 3 years ago
Iv'e never been impressed by an inkjet print, Light jets look much better.
alman53 3 years ago 2
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He seems to be just another pretentious boring snob...his assistant/intern/tool looks suicidally depressed...understandably. I could take about 15minutes of listening to this clown masturbate over his own images before I'd make him wear his DEARDORF 8x10 like a duncecap. Look at this guy "...feeling the space..." at 1:55. What a son of a bitch. I almost wish this was Christopher Guest's next mockumentary.
cliklab 3 years ago
thats joel meyerowitz your talking about. my favorite photographer.
Isaac0516 3 years ago
I know who he is. Knowing he is your fav photographer changes absolutely nothing. Youas Henri Cartier-Bresson, Garry Winogrand, and Elliott Erwitt.
cliklab 3 years ago
oops. typ-o. Take a look at the work of legendary photographers such as Henri Cartier-Bresson, Garry Winogrand, and Elliott Erwitt. Then ask yourself who is your fav.
cliklab 3 years ago
stupid shit. not knowing joel meyerowitz.
you obviously dont know anything about photography. this is one of the most famous street photographer.
KamoteJack 3 years ago
I'm a "stupid shit"? Who thinks Joel ranks with the most famous street photographers? Don't you realize he is being pimped by HP, selling printers?
cliklab 3 years ago
At least he could spell Deardoff correctly whilst wearing his "duncecap", Tool.
chacabuco 3 years ago
Why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself and quit insulting others. Every individual has their own tastes. If someone likes the work of Meyerowitz then so be it. I think you should leave criticisms to the critics who get paid for it as a 9-5 job unlike you.
PhotoGuy1988 3 years ago 2
Sell-outs lose a lot of credibility in my eyes, yeah.
discorecords 3 years ago
all i want to do is print point of purchase posters for my future company, i think this is what i need..the Z 3100 INKJET PRINTER.
KOWBOY1963 3 years ago
thank you j. oscar meyers for sharing your daring artistic process with us. napolean was a weenie!!!
"everything we find in nature, can be found in human nature..." ~ lugz
pigshitpoet 3 years ago
God, if you think he's in people's faces, watch the Bruce Gilden video. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking pictures of people on the street. Besides, you're all on CCTVs all day long anyway.
I think Joel's work is awesome. Not only that, but he's a really nice guy and his love for photography shows.
dudebangthosesluts 3 years ago
Information given here gives one somethimg to think about. You may not GET his work..but you must admit..he is the one getting the gig.
koelzerstudios 3 years ago
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I second the notion that his work doesn't do anything for me, his street photography is annoying, overly in your face, very much just click the shutter and see if we get something...
nice printers though, lol
sk8inprankster 3 years ago
"very much just click the shutter and see if we get something..."
Isn't that what photography is about?
damnfinepie 3 years ago
Digital tit , you dont stick your camera infront of an old women trying to cross the road!To get a good picture
aalltteerrnn8 4 years ago
why not? with respect of course!
marchica1 3 years ago
I second this IRONCLICK, his work doesn't generate anything for me, leaves me cold.
kliveo 4 years ago
I think this is the first photographer that has totally unimpressed me 100%. There is nothing redeeming or pleasing about his work. No intrigue, no vision, just blah nothing. A lot of hype and a lot of commercial endorsement for HP equal 'sellout'.
IRONCLICK 4 years ago
You'd have to understand more about the composition of his shots to fully appreciate Joel's work.
unknownrevelation 4 years ago 2
As a large format photographer, I'd say he's not doing a lot of "composition" with those 35mm street shots. It's spray and pray. Too bad we didn't get to see any of his photos done with the view camera.... It takes real vision to find, setup, and expose large format film and make a meaningful photo.
Of the photos shown, I wasn't so impressed myself. Anyone can make "great" street prints in NYC with a Leica and a 24mm lens.
cortelyou44 3 years ago
Obviously, you have no idea of what is composition or street photography.... Do you know the work of Cartier-Bresson, Robert Frank, Lee Friedlander, etc? Easy? You have to be kidding!
fsacriste 2 years ago
Obviously Cortelyou44 you have not spend enough time either with Meyerowitz's BW or with his color street photography. How much have you seen?
If you have seen enough then you may have noticed:
1-there is no chance most of the work could have been done with a large format camera. He was at the time if not reinventing at least reassessing the decisive moment and giving it, with others of course, its American identity.
bchalifour 2 years ago
2-his work has its own quality, style, different from works by Winogrand, Friedlander or Pappageorge... in other word it is not just uphazard snap-shots.
3-it takes a whole lot of vison, preparedness, intuition and overall anticipation to shoot in that style. I would never venture in underestimating the work, experience and vision that any good work requires. The rest is just tools.
bchalifour 2 years ago
The best of us pick the tool they need for a specific project or adapt to the tool in order for their vision to make most of it. There is not one tool superior to another one in the abstract. Specific genres of photography require specific tools thence people have evolved through various genres, or going back and forth between them, depending on their inspiration, use various appropriate tools be it Leicas M, SLRs, Hasselblads, M7 (Mamiyas),...
bchalifour 2 years ago
612s, 617s, 4x5, 8x10... Vision is what drives one, not the tool. A tool is a tool.
As for anyone being able "to make great prints [???] in NYC with a Leica and a 24 mm it must be as true as anyone being able to make great photographs in NYC with an 8x10. ??!!
bchalifour 2 years ago
Too bad for you.
BongoFury33 3 years ago
Great advertisement for HP.
ZoneIII 4 years ago 2
that's my uncle!!
annonymousmonky 4 years ago
really??? I wanna be his assistant. i dont need money. i just wanna carry his stuff and if he needs to drink or eat somethin, i'll go and pick 'em up for him. if he wants, i could clean his home and organize all of his socks and tshirts. I really wanna learn lots of stuff about photography from him. Let me know...
Erasnas 4 years ago 2