The language is not Κοινή (which at the time would've been pronounced [ky'nẹ:], and soon afterwards [ky'ni]), but Greek. To say "I'm learning Koine" would be something like a Greek saying "I'm learning Wycliffite."
it is pronounced kini. κιονή=kini. nice vid. btw, εστίν=is, and it is ancient greek, and was used at the end of a sentence (you can find it in Homer. eg. 'O Χρήστος (my name) όμορφος εστίν', meaning 'Christos is handsome'
Hopefully someone on here can help me out. I'm fairly new with biblical greek and I still get confused when the endings of words change. I was wanting to translate the phrase "Jesus Christ is King" into greek. If I use google translate, I know its wrong because it translates every word individually not as a sentence. It gives me, Ο Ιησούς Χριστός είναι Βασιλιάς. But I know that in Greek that the phrase "Jesus Christ" is written as, "Ιησοῦ χριστῶ." Can anyone properly translate that for me?
Thanks for your reply. I posted the same question on another Biblical Greek youtube video and another person told me that Google translate puts it into modern greek where as Scripture is Ancient. But I was wondering why your sentence is written as "Jesus Christ King is?" (ὁ Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς βασιλεὺς ἐστι) Or am I just reading that wrong?
@dadoggy03 Hi, that makes sense. It doesn't look like Google can handle endings, either, so it would turn out stuff like "He took she on a date" rather than "He took her on a date". It's because of these endings that Greek word order is less important--since information (that English speakers usually convey with word order) is conveyed with endings and stuff. Did that make sense?
Awesome video! I have recommend it to first year Greeklings who are having trouble seeing the fun side of Biblical Greek. What's with all of the arguments? It's a FUN song, y'all! Laugh along!
I DO think there should be a Biblical Hebrew song. In response to cclus, sticking to the Septuagint is great advice, if you assume that everyone who watches this is an early church scholar. Some of us had similar experiences suffering through Biblical Hebrew too! Not all of us are seminarians! ;)
Ἀγαπῶ τὴν Ἑλλάδα καὶ τὴν αὐτῆς γλῶσσαν. To all Greeks out there: Brothers, I love new Greek, I';ve got no beef with demotic, it's a fine language, and I understand the politics behind the language question. But simply from an Orthodox and language lover's point of view, I'm SO, SO sorry you've done away with the Καθαρεύουσα.The pure Greek was basically atticised Koine brought up to the Modern day. It was honest to God living, spoken Classical Gr. and Koine. Well, it was great while it lasted.
This is so funny. You know I'm from South Eastern Europe and my people is majority Eastern Orthodox Christian, like the Greeks so we use mostly a Modern Greek pronunciation in Koine (but I also know the Erasmian pronunciation so I've got it eventually) so I had to really pay attention first and I missed some of the jokes first time around. Also around here we eath things like... cheese and olives for breakfast (maybe another Greek influence) so I had to google the Eggo thing to get it.
Why are people talking about "ancient Hebrew" video? The Apostles and the early Christians used Septuagint manuscripts (LXX). The Masoretic texts in Hebrew didn't come into the the historical picture until about the 7th century AD. For some dumb and arbitrary reason, Protestant evangelicals just insist on the Masoretic text and the decisions of the council of Jamnia -- the very council that rejected the NT altogether. Doesn't make any sense. Stick to the Septuagint.
@cclus The NT authors didn't always use the LXX manuscripts. Note, for instance, Matthew 2:15's citation of Hosea 11:1. Hosea 11:1 (as we have it in the critical Hebrew text of BHS, for instance) says "out of Egypt I called my son" (וּמִמִּצְרַיִם קָרָאתִי לִבְנִי).
But Hosea 11:1 in the LXX says "out of Egypt I called HIS CHILDREN" (ἐξ Ἀἰγύπτου μετεκάλεσα τα τέκνα αὐτοῦ). Matthew, however, has ""out of Egypt I called MY SON" (ἐξ Αἰγύπτου ἐκάλεσα τὸν υἱόν μου), like the Hebrew MT.
Are there any other examples? As you may know, there is clear evidence of pre-Masoretic writings. See, for example, the 'Nash Papyrus'.That the BHS has instances of pre-Masoretic text is not inconceivable. Notwithstanding this, it is well established that the early Christians and the Apostles used the Septuagint, not the Masoretic. To suggest that they used the Masoretic is anachronistic.
Take a look at this page for a much better way to learn Koiné Greek than traditional grammar/translation methods. Treat it like an actual language... Check it out.
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"Learn Biblical Hebrew and Greek faster, go farther, and remember forever."
Point being? If you want to make a point, make it. Are you Gnostics? Are you KJV only? Are you any versionites? Are you "original" language onlies? All that work you put into this thing and you make no point...what a waste.
Nice work. Very funny, and how true about I Timothy 2:12. I didn't know about that at all until that video made me check out the Greek.
BUT one thing: At 1:06, the Greek on the board seems off. The Greek on the board read "Ti katheudete?" The problem: The verb is plural (e.g.: the implied subject is hymeis, not sy)! So unless there were other sleeping students, it should have read, "Ti katheudeis?"
@genius11433....yeah...we all see how brilliant you are Mr. Greek genius. Now go back to your room and stare at yourself in the mirror, as you are want to do.
@WorshipInTruth But was gokooi alleging that the New Testament was originally written in Hebrew? I mean, after all, the OLD Testament was written in Hebrew. Isn't the Old Testament part of our Bible as well? Gokooi's post points out that we tend to ignore the Old Testament too much (and therefore we neglect the study of Hebrew). If we were as passionate about the Old Testament as we are about the New, I'll bet we'd stick it out through Hebrew just as we stick it out through Greek.
@WorshipInTruth But was gokooi alleging that the New Testament was originally written in Hebrew? I mean, after all, the OLD Testament was written in Hebrew. Isn't the Old Testament part of our Bible as well? Gokooi's post points out that we tend to ignore the Old Testament too much (and therefore we neglect the study of Hebrew). If we were as passionate about the Old Testament as we are about the New, I'll bet we'd stick it out through Hebrew just as we stick it out through Greek.
@WorshipInTruth But was gokooi alleging that the New Testament was originally written in Hebrew? I mean, after all, the OLD Testament was written in Hebrew. Isn't the Old Testament part of our Bible as well? Gokooi's post points out that we tend to ignore the Old Testament too much (and therefore we neglect the study of Hebrew).
@cbcurtis85 I don't feel like the study of Hebrew is neglected, there are many hebraists, even amongst gentiles. I am sorry if it appears as if I was neglecting the importance of Aramaic-Hebrew.
@WorshipInTruth Admittedly, my statement that we "ignore the Old Testament too much (and therefore we neglect the study of Hebrew)" was generalized. I wasn't intending to say you specifically were neglecting Hebrew/Aramaic. I'm sorry for coming across that way.
I just wanted to point out that gookoi didn't seem to be saying that the New Testament was written in Hebrew. It seemed to me that gookoi was just lamenting (in a light tone, I thought) that there was no equivalent video for OT Hebrew.
yeah the whole point of that section is to be as ridiculous as possible; language, pronunciation, etc. Its making fun of those who think they are super-christians because they know a little greek. The line sung there, John 1:1, was the very first scripture we learned in Greek b/c it was the easiest. so that plus the silly singing puncuated by the "holy" line is a recipe for a good satire!
It's 4:30am and I'm studying Latin (it would definitely be better if I was studying Koine lol) and this just made me smile so much - I just played it five times running! Oh and the facial expression at 3:18 is me right now !
I love the "eggo" moment - that is always my favourite word EVER in Greek!
Funny tongue-n-cheek tune! Question, though. I know lyrically, they are having fun w/ the language, but are the actual pronunciations here what they teach at this school? I've heard some wretched Erasmus pronunciations, but I wasn't certain whether I should be laughing at the content or the pronunciations, or both? I'm not trying to slam these guys who did a wonderful job on the video, just honestly curious. Thanks!
When you are studying biblical Greek, the point is not to nail the pronunciation, but the meaning. Koine Greek is a dead language, speaking it is not important.
Koine is still taught in Greek schools, and is used all the time daily in the Orthodox church. I wouldn't exactly call it a 'dead' language. Works out better if you get the proper pronunciations down because since it IS still taught and used in a Biblical sense (the Church), there are a lot of concepts you can learn from folks who have been speaking it & writing it since the written times.
Great video; Could you please consider posting this on tangle? Some of the content that appears on Youtube's homepage is not appropriate to some viewers who would really like your video.
And my buddy Jonathan has written a pretty brilliant psalm entitled "Hurray for Mounce". Not only is it very biblical, but it expertly lampoons the Exegetical Insights and his insistence on Middle Deponent. :)
Although, for sheer schtick value, the epexegetical genitive is far superior to the objective genitive. When Daniel Wallace is done multiplying categories, maybe he can take a look at that. :)
Thanks so much everyone! Everyone involved is so happy of the extent this video is reaching! London! Jordan! Wow! God is amazing! Thank you all for the support! Please keep telling all your friends, relatives, classmates, teachers, professors, pastors, rich aunts and uncles. (who will potentially want to fund my future films) Thanks again everyone!
"Legomai ego" comes from a joke I tell my 3rd semester Greek classes as a reinforcement of the Voice of the Greek verb. I ask the class, "How do you say, 'I myself say to myself' in Koine?" The 'I say' is "lego" but 'to myself' reflects the middle voice (reflexive), hence, "legomai" (1st singular present middle indicative). "I myself" is emphatic represented by the extra "ego" at the end. In the video I write it on the board. Class dismissed!
Whenever you read Jesus saying "Truly, truly I say to you..." or "But I say to you..." That is the English translation of lego my ego. It is a very strong way of saying, "I emphatically tell you!" Derek always thought it was funny that Jesus emphatically stating something was the same words as a delicious breakfast food that you drench in syrup-which I did for the video as well!
Actually, When Jesus says "truly truly I say unto you", first, only in John's Gospel is the first term repeated, and second, a tranliteration of the Greek of that statement would be "amen, amen lego umin" (see for example John 1:51). In other places it is "amen, amen lego soi" (John 3:3, 5) The synoptic gospels only use "amen" once; they do not repeat it.
"lego" is a first person indicative singular verb meaning "I say".
the closest word to what sounds like "my" in English is either "mia" in Greek which means "one", or "me" which is the accusative singular form of ego which means "me"
"ego" in Greek is the first person pronoun "I".
So a wooden translation of the statement "lego me ego" would be "I say to me, I"
actually I really wanted to join the facebook group because my pastor knows DA Carson and I thought he (my pastor) may want to join also. I added Derek as a friend....I picked the guy that looked like the guy in the movie.
its on mine too just under the speaker, full screen and captions "watch in high quality" written in blue and just above # of views. I assume you're a registered you tube member as you have a nick.
btw, on the utube screen right under the video controls there is a link that says 'watch in high quality' where you can switch to see the video in a higher quality if you have a fast connection speed. ---- comment posted by Nicole (Nick's wife... I signed on to his account)
You can join the facebook group titled "All Things Are Better in koine" to see the lyrics, pics, and responses from DA Carson, William Mounce, and others.
Hey bibchr, if you read the dedication at the end of the video (or any of the comments from those of us who know Derek and studied Greek along side of him) you wouldn't arrive at such a hasty and high-horsed conclusion of the video's intent. Use the information-gathering skills you learned in YOUR years of studying Koine before you poorly exegete this labor of love. In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic (kinda).
Well, don't ask me; I'm not the one who used the word "sarcastic." I loved the video. Only thing that snagged me was that word in the writeup. So I asked.
Thanks bib, After reading your concern I realized that sarcastic wasn't the best word to describe what the video was. And as Jesse wrote, "Tongue-in-cheek" is a better description. I appreciate your willingness to post your concern because it allows us to make the needed changes to present the video in the correct light. And I'm glad you loved the video!
So, your intent is to mock the study of Koinē Greek, or people who study it, or people who teach it, or people who revel in mastering it, using it, understanding and teaching the Word better through employing it?
It is not meant to make fun of the study of God's word at all. Derek and I just wanted to create an enjoyable few moments for those students who are in the midst of a tough area of study. Going through a Bible college, we both know that there are times when all the information can fuzz your thinking and you come to a place where you are fed up with everything. This video is meant to remind those students not to take it so seriously that they remove themselves from the goodness and mercy of God.
The video doesn't make fun of Greek students at all. Why would Derek make fun of himself and all his classmates and professors? Perhaps "tongue-in-cheek" is a better description than "sarcastic." It is a tongue-in-cheek comparison of the GNT (Greek New Testament) to English translations. It really celebrates Greek and gives props to those who are willing to study it.
wow, that turned out great! loved it and showed Greg. I'll show it to other people, but you guys are the only ones I know who took greek. =) wonderful job again!
I am speechless. Yay Derek and Nick! It turned out so much better than I ever imagined. I love me and Paul fighting in the library, and Dr. Klink looking all THUG, and the dancers! And I love all the inside jokes for Bible majors, like John 1 and "legwmai egw" and David Wallace. Bible majors, pastors, and anyone else awesome/crazy enough to study koine...unite in applause! Love you guys ;)
I really hope that somehow Daniel Wallace has seen this...
AliasSpecWriter 1 week ago
I am one of those bible majors that have gone through those gruelling seminars on Greek. Loved it so much i am teaching myself Hebrew!
kirgy9 1 month ago
1:05 Your teacher addresses you τῷ πληθυντικῷ;
3:00 Not τί λέγεις ἐν κοινή (ἆρα οὐκ ἔγνω ὁ διδάσκαλος ὑμῶν τὴν δοτικήν;), but τί λέγεις (ἐν) τῇ κοινῇ διαλέκτῳ;
Except that that sounds ridiculous in Greek, and they'd just say, τί λέγεις ἑλληνιστί; or τί λέγεις; Or in your case, τί φλυαρεῖς;
Aeschylus 3 months ago
The language is not Κοινή (which at the time would've been pronounced [ky'nẹ:], and soon afterwards [ky'ni]), but Greek. To say "I'm learning Koine" would be something like a Greek saying "I'm learning Wycliffite."
Aeschylus 3 months ago
I still love this! Good times, good times...
elleoja1 5 months ago
Did DW say, 'Bill Mounce gonna make you bounce'? LOL
ONEOVER99 5 months ago
But... it really is better in the Koine. : (
StephanusTacitus 7 months ago
brilliant - inspires me to get back to my rusty koine!
DD5975 8 months ago
it is pronounced kini. κιονή=kini. nice vid. btw, εστίν=is, and it is ancient greek, and was used at the end of a sentence (you can find it in Homer. eg. 'O Χρήστος (my name) όμορφος εστίν', meaning 'Christos is handsome'
rocoreb 9 months ago
Who are the 6 goobers?
theocratickingdom30 9 months ago
Hopefully someone on here can help me out. I'm fairly new with biblical greek and I still get confused when the endings of words change. I was wanting to translate the phrase "Jesus Christ is King" into greek. If I use google translate, I know its wrong because it translates every word individually not as a sentence. It gives me, Ο Ιησούς Χριστός είναι Βασιλιάς. But I know that in Greek that the phrase "Jesus Christ" is written as, "Ιησοῦ χριστῶ." Can anyone properly translate that for me?
dadoggy03 11 months ago
@dadoggy03 Hi, I believe it's ὁ Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς βασιλεὺς ἐστι. Rock on!
EVanHewsonole 11 months ago
@EVanHewsonole
Thanks for your reply. I posted the same question on another Biblical Greek youtube video and another person told me that Google translate puts it into modern greek where as Scripture is Ancient. But I was wondering why your sentence is written as "Jesus Christ King is?" (ὁ Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς βασιλεὺς ἐστι) Or am I just reading that wrong?
dadoggy03 11 months ago
@dadoggy03 Hi, that makes sense. It doesn't look like Google can handle endings, either, so it would turn out stuff like "He took she on a date" rather than "He took her on a date". It's because of these endings that Greek word order is less important--since information (that English speakers usually convey with word order) is conveyed with endings and stuff. Did that make sense?
EVanHewsonole 11 months ago
Awesome video! I have recommend it to first year Greeklings who are having trouble seeing the fun side of Biblical Greek. What's with all of the arguments? It's a FUN song, y'all! Laugh along!
I DO think there should be a Biblical Hebrew song. In response to cclus, sticking to the Septuagint is great advice, if you assume that everyone who watches this is an early church scholar. Some of us had similar experiences suffering through Biblical Hebrew too! Not all of us are seminarians! ;)
RectaPete 11 months ago
Words cannot describe how much I love this. Not even in Koine.
fehish 11 months ago
It's not ἔγω (ἔγκω) as you're pronouncing it, nor ἐγῶ, as the guy writes on the board, but ἐγώ.
Aeschylus 1 year ago
Ha lagas? (ὄμικρον = /o/, not /a/)
Aeschylus 1 year ago
Ἀγαπῶ τὴν Ἑλλάδα καὶ τὴν αὐτῆς γλῶσσαν. To all Greeks out there: Brothers, I love new Greek, I';ve got no beef with demotic, it's a fine language, and I understand the politics behind the language question. But simply from an Orthodox and language lover's point of view, I'm SO, SO sorry you've done away with the Καθαρεύουσα.The pure Greek was basically atticised Koine brought up to the Modern day. It was honest to God living, spoken Classical Gr. and Koine. Well, it was great while it lasted.
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This is so funny. You know I'm from South Eastern Europe and my people is majority Eastern Orthodox Christian, like the Greeks so we use mostly a Modern Greek pronunciation in Koine (but I also know the Erasmian pronunciation so I've got it eventually) so I had to really pay attention first and I missed some of the jokes first time around. Also around here we eath things like... cheese and olives for breakfast (maybe another Greek influence) so I had to google the Eggo thing to get it.
maegov 1 year ago
This video would soar if it had captions for us non-English folk.
I -for one- didn't really get the waffle-thing until I understood -via google- there might be a double meaning:
"legomai ego" / "legomai 'Eggo' " / "lego 'my Eggo' " (how to put this in captions?)
jiminen 1 year ago
Man, this is so awesome! Perfect. Brings back... "great" memories from my Greek classes. :-)
SeigneurDeTemps 1 year ago
Why are people talking about "ancient Hebrew" video? The Apostles and the early Christians used Septuagint manuscripts (LXX). The Masoretic texts in Hebrew didn't come into the the historical picture until about the 7th century AD. For some dumb and arbitrary reason, Protestant evangelicals just insist on the Masoretic text and the decisions of the council of Jamnia -- the very council that rejected the NT altogether. Doesn't make any sense. Stick to the Septuagint.
cclus 1 year ago
@cclus The NT authors didn't always use the LXX manuscripts. Note, for instance, Matthew 2:15's citation of Hosea 11:1. Hosea 11:1 (as we have it in the critical Hebrew text of BHS, for instance) says "out of Egypt I called my son" (וּמִמִּצְרַיִם קָרָאתִי לִבְנִי).
But Hosea 11:1 in the LXX says "out of Egypt I called HIS CHILDREN" (ἐξ Ἀἰγύπτου μετεκάλεσα τα τέκνα αὐτοῦ). Matthew, however, has ""out of Egypt I called MY SON" (ἐξ Αἰγύπτου ἐκάλεσα τὸν υἱόν μου), like the Hebrew MT.
cbcurtis85 4 months ago
@cbcurtis85
Are there any other examples? As you may know, there is clear evidence of pre-Masoretic writings. See, for example, the 'Nash Papyrus'.That the BHS has instances of pre-Masoretic text is not inconceivable. Notwithstanding this, it is well established that the early Christians and the Apostles used the Septuagint, not the Masoretic. To suggest that they used the Masoretic is anachronistic.
cclus 2 months ago
epic win!
supertones31 1 year ago
Aman
miracleman2021 1 year ago
I love this. You guys are brilliant.
Harriyot 1 year ago
A take on the love-hate relationship with New Testament Greek from my undergrad alma mater.
emesselt 1 year ago
Someone needs to send this to James White.
52blades 1 year ago
Y'all need to do one for Biblical Hebrew.
kinjja 1 year ago 2
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xxpowwowbluexx 1 year ago
I loved it! But don't you really have just way too much time on your hands? :)
167earlgrey 1 year ago
Hey! This is great! The creators did an amazing job with the song and with the video! Excellent =]
rawkfist13 1 year ago
4 semesters? Feel lucky, we have to lern it in 2..
valereSchr 1 year ago
Great song, and a brilliantly put together video.
1 Tim 2:12
διδάσκειν δὲ γυναικὶ οὐκ ἐπιτρέπω, οὐδὲ αὐθεντεῖν ἀνδρός, ἀλλ' εἶναι ἐν ἡσυχίᾳ
But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.
Not a philosophy I can agree with myself...
curvalecce 1 year ago
I think the point is simply that it's good to learn the original languages.
cbcurtis85 1 year ago
Point being? If you want to make a point, make it. Are you Gnostics? Are you KJV only? Are you any versionites? Are you "original" language onlies? All that work you put into this thing and you make no point...what a waste.
crazy650c 1 year ago
Superb! Makes learning fun! (and memorable :)
AspergerDad 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!! Absolutely love it!
greektim19 1 year ago
Nice work. Very funny, and how true about I Timothy 2:12. I didn't know about that at all until that video made me check out the Greek.
BUT one thing: At 1:06, the Greek on the board seems off. The Greek on the board read "Ti katheudete?" The problem: The verb is plural (e.g.: the implied subject is hymeis, not sy)! So unless there were other sleeping students, it should have read, "Ti katheudeis?"
genius11433 1 year ago
@genius11433....yeah...we all see how brilliant you are Mr. Greek genius. Now go back to your room and stare at yourself in the mirror, as you are want to do.
crazy650c 1 year ago
Laughed out loud. Watched it three times and still laughing out loud.
156squared 1 year ago
where's the ancient hebrew video? lol Why doesn't hebrew get any love :( lol
gokooi 2 years ago 13
@gokooi Because it's harder. lol!
FCCJStudent1 1 year ago
@gokooi The New Testament was originally written in Greek, not Hebrew.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth But was gokooi alleging that the New Testament was originally written in Hebrew? I mean, after all, the OLD Testament was written in Hebrew. Isn't the Old Testament part of our Bible as well? Gokooi's post points out that we tend to ignore the Old Testament too much (and therefore we neglect the study of Hebrew). If we were as passionate about the Old Testament as we are about the New, I'll bet we'd stick it out through Hebrew just as we stick it out through Greek.
cbcurtis85 4 months ago
@WorshipInTruth But was gokooi alleging that the New Testament was originally written in Hebrew? I mean, after all, the OLD Testament was written in Hebrew. Isn't the Old Testament part of our Bible as well? Gokooi's post points out that we tend to ignore the Old Testament too much (and therefore we neglect the study of Hebrew). If we were as passionate about the Old Testament as we are about the New, I'll bet we'd stick it out through Hebrew just as we stick it out through Greek.
cbcurtis85 4 months ago
@WorshipInTruth But was gokooi alleging that the New Testament was originally written in Hebrew? I mean, after all, the OLD Testament was written in Hebrew. Isn't the Old Testament part of our Bible as well? Gokooi's post points out that we tend to ignore the Old Testament too much (and therefore we neglect the study of Hebrew).
cbcurtis85 4 months ago
@cbcurtis85 I don't feel like the study of Hebrew is neglected, there are many hebraists, even amongst gentiles. I am sorry if it appears as if I was neglecting the importance of Aramaic-Hebrew.
WorshipInTruth 4 months ago
@WorshipInTruth Admittedly, my statement that we "ignore the Old Testament too much (and therefore we neglect the study of Hebrew)" was generalized. I wasn't intending to say you specifically were neglecting Hebrew/Aramaic. I'm sorry for coming across that way.
I just wanted to point out that gookoi didn't seem to be saying that the New Testament was written in Hebrew. It seemed to me that gookoi was just lamenting (in a light tone, I thought) that there was no equivalent video for OT Hebrew.
cbcurtis85 4 months ago
@cbcurtis85 Why does there have to be an equivalent video?? It is just a silly video, can probably find something better to "lament" about.
WorshipInTruth 4 months ago
@WorshipInTruth Yes, it is just a silly video (I loved it). Perhaps "lament" was the wrong word. :-) God bless
cbcurtis85 4 months ago
@gokooi
Forget Hebrew! Aramaic is where it's at!
Thesterness 9 months ago
@gokooi their brains were done after taking 2 classes of hebrew.
tz9010 6 months ago
@gokooi lol, not that Hebrew's bad or anything. But the New Testament was written in Greek - as were the Deuterocanonical books.
SorokChyetirye 2 months ago
You guys are out of control! 5 stars
senseiEthan 2 years ago 3
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BescaSeekingHim 2 years ago
@ meestro.....
yeah the whole point of that section is to be as ridiculous as possible; language, pronunciation, etc. Its making fun of those who think they are super-christians because they know a little greek. The line sung there, John 1:1, was the very first scripture we learned in Greek b/c it was the easiest. so that plus the silly singing puncuated by the "holy" line is a recipe for a good satire!
savedrockstar 2 years ago
Um... actually Bill Mounce coined a lot of the phrases used in the video.
It isn't a satire on "super-Christians" as far as I can tell.
AtlantiansAnAlteran 2 years ago
I was battling with an aorist inceptive when I saw this...the perfect anecdote so thank you.
FarDays 2 years ago
It's 4:30am and I'm studying Latin (it would definitely be better if I was studying Koine lol) and this just made me smile so much - I just played it five times running! Oh and the facial expression at 3:18 is me right now !
I love the "eggo" moment - that is always my favourite word EVER in Greek!
Thanks for making me smile!
SeRwl 2 years ago
Funny tongue-n-cheek tune! Question, though. I know lyrically, they are having fun w/ the language, but are the actual pronunciations here what they teach at this school? I've heard some wretched Erasmus pronunciations, but I wasn't certain whether I should be laughing at the content or the pronunciations, or both? I'm not trying to slam these guys who did a wonderful job on the video, just honestly curious. Thanks!
meestro 2 years ago
All things are better in kee-nee. It's what the scriptures really be... ;)
meestro 2 years ago
lol
xxpowwowbluexx 2 years ago
When you are studying biblical Greek, the point is not to nail the pronunciation, but the meaning. Koine Greek is a dead language, speaking it is not important.
cory31816 2 years ago
Koine is still taught in Greek schools, and is used all the time daily in the Orthodox church. I wouldn't exactly call it a 'dead' language. Works out better if you get the proper pronunciations down because since it IS still taught and used in a Biblical sense (the Church), there are a lot of concepts you can learn from folks who have been speaking it & writing it since the written times.
meestro 2 years ago
LOVE IT LOVE IT!
brainouty 2 years ago
Great video; Could you please consider posting this on tangle? Some of the content that appears on Youtube's homepage is not appropriate to some viewers who would really like your video.
KyrieEleison9 2 years ago
I love Koine Greek, but "Hah Lah-Gahs" just sticks in my throat---I can't get used to Erasmian pronunciation and refuse to use it.
TroyLFullerton 2 years ago
that is hilarious
sukisuki84 2 years ago
Absolutely love this!
scapino1974 2 years ago
Haley, Alix, and Melissa did a great job! Also I didn't know that was April singing until Natalia told me! April has an amazing voice!!
Darek!!!!!!!! We miss you!!!!!!! Come back to Calvary!!!!!!
mipblue 2 years ago
And my buddy Jonathan has written a pretty brilliant psalm entitled "Hurray for Mounce". Not only is it very biblical, but it expertly lampoons the Exegetical Insights and his insistence on Middle Deponent. :)
requiem2651 2 years ago
Love it. Love it. Love it.
Although, for sheer schtick value, the epexegetical genitive is far superior to the objective genitive. When Daniel Wallace is done multiplying categories, maybe he can take a look at that. :)
requiem2651 2 years ago
oooh, rough go unfit3.....
savedrockstar 2 years ago
four semesters try doing it in tens weeks because I am doing it right now. and try learning from voelz.
unfit3 2 years ago
baahaaaaaaaaaa
opidacul 2 years ago
How Greek Orthodox of them.
Spartakos9 2 years ago
This is the best video I have seen on Y-tube in a looong time.
jscibbe88 2 years ago 2
hey cuzzy itz gd
76Sexypoison 2 years ago
True, they are...Mounce is a beast
Phillysoul11 2 years ago
I start next semester! Woohoo!
Oldschoold15 2 years ago
All Things Are Better in Koine has been entered into the Biola Film Festival! Praise God....(and I hope it wins)!
savedrockstar 2 years ago
legomai ego! bahahaha!!
AliasSpecWriter 2 years ago
my sentiments precisely!
now remember all you Greek students: "wra exei doxan!" (1st Machen).
damienbarber 2 years ago
??? "Time has an opinion"? What does that mean?
genius11433 1 year ago
@genius11433 "wra exei doxan" means "an hour has glory" and is one of the earlier translation phrases in Machen.
Opinion is "gnomai"
damienbarber 1 year ago
Fabulous! It's about time someone had fun with this stuff!
mendicantmelly 2 years ago
It's very funny. I would like to see the version for the classical hebrew too!
amierindian 2 years ago
What a great film! Thank you for the entertainment and encouragement.
adamtcalvert 2 years ago
Thanks for the update Nick.
Still love the video, still happy I got to be a part of such a wonderful project!
blackpepper808 2 years ago
Hey everybody thanks again for the posts!
ncasucci11 2 years ago
This is hilarious! I love the Wallace shout out but where's the Voelz grammar!?
jakejustice 2 years ago
brilliant stuff :)
whitemagick4 3 years ago
THIS IS SO AMAZING.
I am so proud to go to Biola at this point.
justjusti 3 years ago
I'm so glad!!! That's awesome.
GodsPrncess 2 years ago
HA, this is great!
stilltruth 3 years ago
Hey all the way from Louisville, KY at Southern Seminary. Our prof showed this great video in class.
CranishFilms 3 years ago
15, 267 views!!! And favorited 123x!!!! Way to go Derek and Nick, you guys are rock stars. ;)
GodsPrncess 3 years ago
haha niiiccee
juliappps 3 years ago
Thanks so much everyone! Everyone involved is so happy of the extent this video is reaching! London! Jordan! Wow! God is amazing! Thank you all for the support! Please keep telling all your friends, relatives, classmates, teachers, professors, pastors, rich aunts and uncles. (who will potentially want to fund my future films) Thanks again everyone!
Leggo!
ncasucci 3 years ago
I saw this in Yoshikawa's class and it was very enjoyable :). To all the people in my Greek 4 class, let's finish strong.
poppingseonghoon 3 years ago
WOW! One of the funniest things I've ever seen. I especially like the shouts out to D.A. Carson and Daniel Wallace. Did I miss one to Bill Mounce?
mdlatt 3 years ago
During the rap section: "Bill Mounce gonna make ya bounce!"
syoshikawa2024 3 years ago
Love it, great production, and who knew Derek and gang could act so well....was this in the Plan?
dave2good 3 years ago
Hey, this made it to some of us prof's who teach in Amman, Jordan...great video
monkinjordan 3 years ago
Wow, 12888 views! That is more than the original readers of 1 Timothy 2:12! I was the 12888th too. Very awesome, Derek!
naterehn 3 years ago
awe-some
aaronshaf2006 3 years ago
haha, I love it! my greek professor sent me this video and I cracked up :p
herokari 3 years ago
Hey herokari, may I ask who your Greek prof is and where you go to school? I am just wondering how far this video has gone around the world. ;)
GodsPrncess 3 years ago
Nick, I loved the finished product. Even though I broke my hand for nothing. I'm kidding. I love you
And hey I composed that beat you jerk face.
blackpepper808 3 years ago
That's hilarious. Good production quality too.
Heb1228 3 years ago
Great video. Legomai ego had me laughing
novalgaraint 3 years ago
Ranna??!! hahahahahaha
igobyamber 3 years ago
hahahaha!
rannarocks 3 years ago
Great job Derek and everyone!
--Allison Q.
catz206 3 years ago
hahahahahaha Nick I love you!
savedrockstar 3 years ago
"Legomai ego" comes from a joke I tell my 3rd semester Greek classes as a reinforcement of the Voice of the Greek verb. I ask the class, "How do you say, 'I myself say to myself' in Koine?" The 'I say' is "lego" but 'to myself' reflects the middle voice (reflexive), hence, "legomai" (1st singular present middle indicative). "I myself" is emphatic represented by the extra "ego" at the end. In the video I write it on the board. Class dismissed!
syoshikawa2024 3 years ago 6
@syoshikawa2024
This shits is the easy ones, actually in Greece we have to learn more & more of that things...DON'T TRY at home!!!
OkAmIMadFun 1 year ago
Dr. Klink f'sho...
fsholo1 3 years ago
I'm speechless!
I... love... you? <3
damildlyshreddah 3 years ago
That was frikkin' awesome, Nick!!! Loved the old school rapper part...LOL
charlienecro 3 years ago
This is great! Real funny!
but can someone explain what the bit from 1:20-1:40 is about?
onemadham 3 years ago
Whenever you read Jesus saying "Truly, truly I say to you..." or "But I say to you..." That is the English translation of lego my ego. It is a very strong way of saying, "I emphatically tell you!" Derek always thought it was funny that Jesus emphatically stating something was the same words as a delicious breakfast food that you drench in syrup-which I did for the video as well!
ncasucci11 3 years ago
Great video.
Actually, When Jesus says "truly truly I say unto you", first, only in John's Gospel is the first term repeated, and second, a tranliteration of the Greek of that statement would be "amen, amen lego umin" (see for example John 1:51). In other places it is "amen, amen lego soi" (John 3:3, 5) The synoptic gospels only use "amen" once; they do not repeat it.
kenjidahunted 3 years ago
"lego" is a first person indicative singular verb meaning "I say".
the closest word to what sounds like "my" in English is either "mia" in Greek which means "one", or "me" which is the accusative singular form of ego which means "me"
"ego" in Greek is the first person pronoun "I".
So a wooden translation of the statement "lego me ego" would be "I say to me, I"
kenjidahunted 3 years ago
Sorry Nick...that's not true. Legomai ego is a funny joke Dr. Yosh made up for us...it's not actually in the NT at all.
Love Jessie
GodsPrncess 3 years ago
actually I really wanted to join the facebook group because my pastor knows DA Carson and I thought he (my pastor) may want to join also. I added Derek as a friend....I picked the guy that looked like the guy in the movie.
Merry Christmas everyone!
bovar 3 years ago
well I've searched a bunch of different ways for that group but no joy....maybe it's private?
bovar 3 years ago
its on mine too just under the speaker, full screen and captions "watch in high quality" written in blue and just above # of views. I assume you're a registered you tube member as you have a nick.
PeterBGrace 3 years ago
I tried Derek North on Facebook and got 500 hits. How do I find the Koine Derek Norht site?
PeterBGrace 3 years ago
if you cant find the group on facebook, look for Derek North as a friend and I'll link you to it.
savedrockstar 3 years ago
the facebook group also has a high-res version of the video. it's a bit of a cleaner image.
savedrockstar 3 years ago
btw, on the utube screen right under the video controls there is a link that says 'watch in high quality' where you can switch to see the video in a higher quality if you have a fast connection speed. ---- comment posted by Nicole (Nick's wife... I signed on to his account)
ncasucci11 3 years ago
You can join the facebook group titled "All Things Are Better in koine" to see the lyrics, pics, and responses from DA Carson, William Mounce, and others.
savedrockstar 3 years ago
I would like to apologize to bibchr for my overly defensive comment. It was uncalled for.
nickcox4773 3 years ago
can you give me a link to the facebook site? I cant seem to find it!
bovar 3 years ago
this was a great video...can someone post the words to the "rap" portion? I didn't catch a lot of it...
rpavich 3 years ago
Here it is (from "All Things Are Better in Koine" Facebook site)
What you think, you got mad skills?
Best check again cuz my Koine kills!
My Greek abilities left my brain
Now I praise the Lord cuz they back again! Amen!
K (to the) O I N (to the) E
Objective Genitive thats the category!!
K (to the) O I N (to the) E
D.W. bringing the beatDaniel Wallace
syoshikawa2024 3 years ago
Whoops, here's the first half:
K (to the) O I N (to the) E
D.W. bringing the beatDaniel Wallace
K (to the) O I N (to the) E (repeat)
Bill Mounce gonna make you bounce
Yo, Daniel Wallace
Im busting out like Daniel Wallace
Watch me parse them verbs cuz my Greek is flawless
syoshikawa2024 3 years ago
Haha Hilarious Video, Maybe I should go on and take Greek III after all.
johonbravo 3 years ago
καὶ σοι, jchamber93 :)
Awesome video.
kkroeker 3 years ago
That was great.
Jhonka6766 3 years ago
I loved it!!!!!
bovar 3 years ago
Hey bibchr, if you read the dedication at the end of the video (or any of the comments from those of us who know Derek and studied Greek along side of him) you wouldn't arrive at such a hasty and high-horsed conclusion of the video's intent. Use the information-gathering skills you learned in YOUR years of studying Koine before you poorly exegete this labor of love. In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic (kinda).
nickcox4773 3 years ago
Awesome! I love it!!
mwatson27 3 years ago
I will be showing this to all my students.
You guys are awesome!!
Pantman7 3 years ago
Best.
Video.
Ever.
dayniokeng 3 years ago
Well, don't ask me; I'm not the one who used the word "sarcastic." I loved the video. Only thing that snagged me was that word in the writeup. So I asked.
bibchr 3 years ago
Thanks bib, After reading your concern I realized that sarcastic wasn't the best word to describe what the video was. And as Jesse wrote, "Tongue-in-cheek" is a better description. I appreciate your willingness to post your concern because it allows us to make the needed changes to present the video in the correct light. And I'm glad you loved the video!
ncasucci11 3 years ago
Enjoyed the video, but - it's "sarcastic"?
So, your intent is to mock the study of Koinē Greek, or people who study it, or people who teach it, or people who revel in mastering it, using it, understanding and teaching the Word better through employing it?
How is it "sarcastic"?
bibchr 3 years ago
It is not meant to make fun of the study of God's word at all. Derek and I just wanted to create an enjoyable few moments for those students who are in the midst of a tough area of study. Going through a Bible college, we both know that there are times when all the information can fuzz your thinking and you come to a place where you are fed up with everything. This video is meant to remind those students not to take it so seriously that they remove themselves from the goodness and mercy of God.
ncasucci11 3 years ago
The video doesn't make fun of Greek students at all. Why would Derek make fun of himself and all his classmates and professors? Perhaps "tongue-in-cheek" is a better description than "sarcastic." It is a tongue-in-cheek comparison of the GNT (Greek New Testament) to English translations. It really celebrates Greek and gives props to those who are willing to study it.
GodsPrncess 3 years ago
haha nice work!
VirtueandTruth 3 years ago
wow, that turned out great! loved it and showed Greg. I'll show it to other people, but you guys are the only ones I know who took greek. =) wonderful job again!
Liooness2000 3 years ago
Hi Jessie! I'll be by BIOLA within a week after Christmas. Maybe you will be there for some reason too?
nickcox4773 3 years ago
Nope, probably not.... ;) Sorry friend!
GodsPrncess 3 years ago
Great job. This will be the first thing I show my Greek class when the next semester starts
danzac1979 3 years ago
Props to Nick and Derek! This is funny cuz it's so true :-). And Daniel Wallace really is a great grammarian- awesome living tribute!!
purplespice 3 years ago
wow, derek i am speechless. wow. simply amazing. and Dr. Klink takes it to a whole other level... this is genius
richrad229 3 years ago
I had to create a YouTube account just so I could comment on this. Thank you for making this video. Going to do one for Hebrew? :)
jchamber93 3 years ago
I don't want to speak for Derek and Nick...but I will say that we don't know Hebrew AT ALL...so it is unlikely. ;)
GodsPrncess 3 years ago
That's OK. This video is plenty.
Have a Merry Christmas!
Καὶ ὁ λόγος σὰρξ ἐγένετο καὶ ἐσκήνωσεν ἐν ἡμῖν
jchamber93 3 years ago
P.s. Hi Nick Cox! Miss you buddy! Love Jessie C.
GodsPrncess 3 years ago
I am speechless. Yay Derek and Nick! It turned out so much better than I ever imagined. I love me and Paul fighting in the library, and Dr. Klink looking all THUG, and the dancers! And I love all the inside jokes for Bible majors, like John 1 and "legwmai egw" and David Wallace. Bible majors, pastors, and anyone else awesome/crazy enough to study koine...unite in applause! Love you guys ;)
GodsPrncess 3 years ago
thats muh drumset!! :D
SurferDuuuude 3 years ago
thanks guys! please spread this around and tell people about it, especially anyone you know who has taken Greek or is in seminary.
savedrockstar 3 years ago
I freaking love you guys! Wish I had been there to take part in this video!!!!!!
nickcox4773 3 years ago
AWESOME!!!
LouiePlaysDrums 3 years ago