@SatisCognitum Actually, ONLY Catholics can be heretics - everyone who is a non-Catholic who denies a truth of the faith is just "wrong". Heretics are still Catholic, which is the major problem - they are traitors within the ranks, rather than enemies without.
who is this clown? if people have a different valid opinion on church teaching, who is this muppet to call them 'cafeteria catholics'
would jesus shun anyone who had a diff opinion? no. he associated with sinners. Ive seen people openly berated for having a difference of opinion, to teachings..so rather than trying to understand WHY all they do is scream cafeteria catholics and 'you're not one of us'.
@Bhouncer Jesus makes it ABDUNDANTLY clear in the Gospels that if you are not with Him, you are against Him. He tells those who do not follow the moral codes of God they are going to be damned.
There ARE no other "valid" opinions on Church teaching but the teaching of the Church. Jesus associated with sinners ... and told them, in no uncertain terms, to shape up and stop sinning. Jesus NEVER said, not implied anything like, "Hey, whatever you want is okay with me!"
@Bhouncer WHY people reject teachings of the Church is obvious - ignorance or lack of love. Ignorance can be easily cured (and, if you check out out website, you'll see MASSES of resources to do just that). But lack of love is not so easy to cure. We try, but there comes a point when you shake the dust from your feet and move on, when you realize there are people who are just opposed to Christ's message yet still call themselves Christian and pick and choose - hence, "cafeteria Catholics".
If you don't agree with Catholicism, then you should leave it because you don't belong in Christ's holy apostolic church! You should NOT stay and try to corrupt it from the inside out. Why are you even here? Did your father satan tell you to stay and bring corruption to the church? Because if you don't accept the teacings of CHRIST, you aren't his child plain and simple.
Today I am taking a day off, and I can't be bothered to argue against his idiotic heresy. I open this up to the YouTube floor and invite our YouTubers to do what I usually do :) Refute, please, ladies and gentlemen . . .
Signed : Simon Rafe, Webmaster, Saint Michael's Media
#1 So the Church needs reform you say. Where have I heard that before *cough-martinluther-cough*.
#2 Obedience to the dogma of the Church founded by God himself in the flesh sounds pretty good to me.
#3 So is the Eucharist simply commentary too? Is the Papacy, the Blessed Virgin, the Saints, miracles, and the entrity of the Catholic Faith simply just commentary?
#4 Just a 2 minute look in the Catachism you will find no such hatred of homosexuals.
#5 Oh well we apologize for taking the death of a concived person made in the image of God to seriously oh wise one.
#6 Priestly celibacy is a discipline not a doctirine, therefore there are plently of exceptions.
#7 Notice Jesus himself only had male apostoles. Notice that throught Church history it was only males who held the position of priest. Obviously God intended it to be this way.
#8 Ahhh I get it now. You're simply a better liberal than a Catholic right comrade?
The Catholic Church does not teach hatred of homosexuals. It condemns their actions by having sex. The Catholic Church teaches that homosexuals should live chaste and pure life and avoid sinning. Homosexual acts is no different than fornication between a man and woman. The CC will never changed that.
Birth Control promotes fornication which the CC have always condemned.
The Church needs reform and is always reforming. The "reform" you speak of is nothing not true reform but revolt. Revolt against what Christ taight. The Church does not hate homosexuals but calls them, like it does all of of, to a truer, fuller and more satisfying understanding of sexuality. The fact that you claim the Church has an "unthinking" opposition to birth control shows you have never even read the papal letter on birth control, Humanae Vitae by Pope Paul VI.
Its is a wonderful and learned document that, althoug written in 1968, has proven almost phrophetic in its statement of bierht controls danger. What you claim are the "views of backwards conservatives" is actallu what the Church has always though and what Christians have always believed. Do you think you are a better Christian and more knowledgable about Christ and his commands and message than the Popes and Doctors of the Church before you?
I dislike myself so much.. because I am a cafeteria catholic, in the way that I dont go to mass or church all the time. I am trying to stop that though, and hopefully when I get older it will be easier for me to do this. We must obey are lord and not offend him any longer.
Yes we must. Don't wait my friend. Make the changes towards Christ and his Church now and prepare yourself. Don't let sin or anything keep you from distancing yourself. I'll be praying for you.
Now the vast majority of the Church's doctrines are extremely helpful. But if someoe disagrees with the church on certain aspects, but continues to work with the church they are the most valuable members of the church.
This video tells people to leave the church if they disagree to certain things, NO! We must work toghether, and if someone disagrees about say homosexuality, then that doesnt mean they should leave the church!
>> We must work toghether, and if someone disagrees about say homosexuality, then that doesnt mean they should leave the church!
Of course it should - because they are spreading LIES that will send people to Hell!
Christianity is an all or nothing prospect - Jesus makes this very clear.
2 commandments indeed - "love God" being one of them. Jesus says that if we love Him we will keep His commandments; including no homosexuality, no abortion, no contraception!
If that is what you truly believe then I pity you, I am not here to try to change your beliefs and I wont. But Christ would not say that, and nor should his church.
Then why post them? Anyone who posts his views is trying to make others aware of them, and is trying to justify them, to support them.
Anyone who does that wants others to believe what he believes. Of course you are trying to change people's views! Don't lie in such an obvious manner. You want people to believe what you believe because you think it is the truth.
His commands to me are to love god and love each other, thats being the be all and end all.
As for if someone not believing in Jesus are they still apart of the church? Yes unless they leave it, should they for instance take communion? not until they can reconcil thier beliefs with the church through education and discussion.
I do believe in the one catholic church as set by Jesus, but just because I critise it doesnt mean I dont love it, if anything it means I love it more.
>> His commands to me are to love god and love each other, thats being the be all and end all.
Not at all - there are plenty of other verses in the Bible which give additional commandments. To LOVE God means to OBEY Him. If you disobey His commands, you do not love Him.
>> just because I critise it doesnt mean I dont love it, if anything it means I love it more.
The Catholic Church is perfect. Her teachings are without error. Slandering someone or something perfect is not love.
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.
Bind and loose. The pope and the magisterium have this power from our Lord.
(Bind and loose. The pope and the magisterium have this power from our Lord) u got that right friend. something far too many people "so called Catholics" forget. im sick and tired of our "Catholic" politicians rejecting the faith, so called "Catholic" Universities spreading lies and heresy. the time is overdue for a gut-check. obey the faith, live it, or get out~
Cafeteria Catholics are heretics. Heretics are not Catholics.
SatisCognitum 1 year ago
@SatisCognitum Actually, ONLY Catholics can be heretics - everyone who is a non-Catholic who denies a truth of the faith is just "wrong". Heretics are still Catholic, which is the major problem - they are traitors within the ranks, rather than enemies without.
SaintMichaelsMedia 1 year ago
who is this clown? if people have a different valid opinion on church teaching, who is this muppet to call them 'cafeteria catholics'
would jesus shun anyone who had a diff opinion? no. he associated with sinners. Ive seen people openly berated for having a difference of opinion, to teachings..so rather than trying to understand WHY all they do is scream cafeteria catholics and 'you're not one of us'.
disgusting.
Bhouncer 11 months ago
@Bhouncer Jesus makes it ABDUNDANTLY clear in the Gospels that if you are not with Him, you are against Him. He tells those who do not follow the moral codes of God they are going to be damned.
There ARE no other "valid" opinions on Church teaching but the teaching of the Church. Jesus associated with sinners ... and told them, in no uncertain terms, to shape up and stop sinning. Jesus NEVER said, not implied anything like, "Hey, whatever you want is okay with me!"
SaintMichaelsMedia 11 months ago
@Bhouncer WHY people reject teachings of the Church is obvious - ignorance or lack of love. Ignorance can be easily cured (and, if you check out out website, you'll see MASSES of resources to do just that). But lack of love is not so easy to cure. We try, but there comes a point when you shake the dust from your feet and move on, when you realize there are people who are just opposed to Christ's message yet still call themselves Christian and pick and choose - hence, "cafeteria Catholics".
SaintMichaelsMedia 11 months ago
Amen, Brother!
You have a very special mission. And may Jesus and His Blessed Mother protect you from the devil's traps and snares, which must be many fold.
TheTumboos 1 year ago
Why don't Cafeteria Catholics pick a different restuarant. You don't like it, leave!
TenderTrap86 2 years ago
@TenderTrap86 I like to call cafeteria Catholics "Catholic butts", because they usually say "I'm Catholic, but..."
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
If you don't agree with Catholicism, then you should leave it because you don't belong in Christ's holy apostolic church! You should NOT stay and try to corrupt it from the inside out. Why are you even here? Did your father satan tell you to stay and bring corruption to the church? Because if you don't accept the teacings of CHRIST, you aren't his child plain and simple.
poetryofimage 2 years ago
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froberts7 2 years ago
Re. the message from Froberts7;
Today I am taking a day off, and I can't be bothered to argue against his idiotic heresy. I open this up to the YouTube floor and invite our YouTubers to do what I usually do :) Refute, please, ladies and gentlemen . . .
Signed : Simon Rafe, Webmaster, Saint Michael's Media
SaintMichaelsMedia 2 years ago
I will gladly dish out a refutation.
#1 So the Church needs reform you say. Where have I heard that before *cough-martinluther-cough*.
#2 Obedience to the dogma of the Church founded by God himself in the flesh sounds pretty good to me.
#3 So is the Eucharist simply commentary too? Is the Papacy, the Blessed Virgin, the Saints, miracles, and the entrity of the Catholic Faith simply just commentary?
#4 Just a 2 minute look in the Catachism you will find no such hatred of homosexuals.
Childinfaith 2 years ago
#5 Oh well we apologize for taking the death of a concived person made in the image of God to seriously oh wise one.
#6 Priestly celibacy is a discipline not a doctirine, therefore there are plently of exceptions.
#7 Notice Jesus himself only had male apostoles. Notice that throught Church history it was only males who held the position of priest. Obviously God intended it to be this way.
#8 Ahhh I get it now. You're simply a better liberal than a Catholic right comrade?
Childinfaith 2 years ago
The Catholic Church does not teach hatred of homosexuals. It condemns their actions by having sex. The Catholic Church teaches that homosexuals should live chaste and pure life and avoid sinning. Homosexual acts is no different than fornication between a man and woman. The CC will never changed that.
Birth Control promotes fornication which the CC have always condemned.
mannyfit75 2 years ago
The Church needs reform and is always reforming. The "reform" you speak of is nothing not true reform but revolt. Revolt against what Christ taight. The Church does not hate homosexuals but calls them, like it does all of of, to a truer, fuller and more satisfying understanding of sexuality. The fact that you claim the Church has an "unthinking" opposition to birth control shows you have never even read the papal letter on birth control, Humanae Vitae by Pope Paul VI.
bklynbroker 2 years ago
Its is a wonderful and learned document that, althoug written in 1968, has proven almost phrophetic in its statement of bierht controls danger. What you claim are the "views of backwards conservatives" is actallu what the Church has always though and what Christians have always believed. Do you think you are a better Christian and more knowledgable about Christ and his commands and message than the Popes and Doctors of the Church before you?
bklynbroker 2 years ago
Christ had a saying for those of his dsicples that spoke like you..."get thee behind me Satan. You are thinking not as God does, but as men do"
I pray that you will come to a truer love for Christ and His Church.
bklynbroker 2 years ago
I dislike myself so much.. because I am a cafeteria catholic, in the way that I dont go to mass or church all the time. I am trying to stop that though, and hopefully when I get older it will be easier for me to do this. We must obey are lord and not offend him any longer.
RockyBalboa211 2 years ago
Yes we must. Don't wait my friend. Make the changes towards Christ and his Church now and prepare yourself. Don't let sin or anything keep you from distancing yourself. I'll be praying for you.
Rben20 2 years ago
Amen.
magie19475 2 years ago
Your videos are wisdom and truth, amazing Gift from God to us...Please continue the mission God has so chosen for you!!!
ProdigalChildofGod 2 years ago
I disagree. Jesus only gives 2 commandments.
Now the vast majority of the Church's doctrines are extremely helpful. But if someoe disagrees with the church on certain aspects, but continues to work with the church they are the most valuable members of the church.
This video tells people to leave the church if they disagree to certain things, NO! We must work toghether, and if someone disagrees about say homosexuality, then that doesnt mean they should leave the church!
redbaron998 2 years ago
>> We must work toghether, and if someone disagrees about say homosexuality, then that doesnt mean they should leave the church!
Of course it should - because they are spreading LIES that will send people to Hell!
Christianity is an all or nothing prospect - Jesus makes this very clear.
2 commandments indeed - "love God" being one of them. Jesus says that if we love Him we will keep His commandments; including no homosexuality, no abortion, no contraception!
Obey Christ, or get out!
SaintMichaelsMedia 2 years ago
If that is what you truly believe then I pity you, I am not here to try to change your beliefs and I wont. But Christ would not say that, and nor should his church.
redbaron998 2 years ago
>> But Christ would not say that
Christ would not say what? That we must obey His commands? That is a DIRECT quote!
That we should not be lukewarm about our faith? ANOTHER direct quote!
How far would you take it? What if someone believes in not worshiping Jesus? Should THEY be allowed to be in the Church?
What IS the Church at that point? Anyone who wants to be in it? Anyone who claims the name Christian?
SaintMichaelsMedia 2 years ago
>> I am not here to try to change your beliefs
Then why post them? Anyone who posts his views is trying to make others aware of them, and is trying to justify them, to support them.
Anyone who does that wants others to believe what he believes. Of course you are trying to change people's views! Don't lie in such an obvious manner. You want people to believe what you believe because you think it is the truth.
SaintMichaelsMedia 2 years ago
His commands to me are to love god and love each other, thats being the be all and end all.
As for if someone not believing in Jesus are they still apart of the church? Yes unless they leave it, should they for instance take communion? not until they can reconcil thier beliefs with the church through education and discussion.
I do believe in the one catholic church as set by Jesus, but just because I critise it doesnt mean I dont love it, if anything it means I love it more.
redbaron998 2 years ago
>> His commands to me are to love god and love each other, thats being the be all and end all.
Not at all - there are plenty of other verses in the Bible which give additional commandments. To LOVE God means to OBEY Him. If you disobey His commands, you do not love Him.
>> just because I critise it doesnt mean I dont love it, if anything it means I love it more.
The Catholic Church is perfect. Her teachings are without error. Slandering someone or something perfect is not love.
SaintMichaelsMedia 2 years ago
"Be all and end all?" I don't think so.
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.
Bind and loose. The pope and the magisterium have this power from our Lord.
starchyp92 2 years ago
(Bind and loose. The pope and the magisterium have this power from our Lord) u got that right friend. something far too many people "so called Catholics" forget. im sick and tired of our "Catholic" politicians rejecting the faith, so called "Catholic" Universities spreading lies and heresy. the time is overdue for a gut-check. obey the faith, live it, or get out~
Qbears 2 years ago
i agree
Radfahrer1985 2 years ago
Brilliant video! This needs to be said! God bless your ministry st Micheals media!
boganlewis 2 years ago
thanks for this, speaks the truth
beefking69er 2 years ago
Thank you for your videos.
10davjul 2 years ago