I saw these guys at The Spectrum in the spring of '85 and again in '86 (senior year of high school)... puked after multiple illegal beers at the vendor and a joint. A guy was pooring beer on my head behind me for puking in front of his girlfriend as Jimmy was performing a solo with his bow and guitar...... what a night... ha ha!!!
If I was his age range and in London i would have been his g/f!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ER UM IF I HAD BEEN IN London :) Get me anywhere near that man!!!!!!!!!!!!! xoxo
If I was his age range and in London i would have been his g/f!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ER UM IF I HAD BEEN IN London :) Get me anywhere near that man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I haven't heard this tune in so long. I forgot how cool the drums are, Slade's playing on this was a big influence on me back then, when I was learning to play.
Page had a weird guitar tone with The Firm. It sounded like he had every stompbox turned on at once - just like this footage. I always thought his playing with this band was substandard, but I still loved the band and their music.
That sound is the Boss CE-2 Chrous pedal and everybody used them in the '80s...It works here for me because I love Jimmy and he can do no wrong where tone is concerned,but indeed the Boss Chorus sucks the life out of everyone-it is boxy in an anachronistic '80s way...Although Jimmy still sounds fuckin' greta to me:)
Murdocks6107, ditto, I saw them in 1985 I think it was, and Jason Bonham on drums, it was truly amazing to be there! Some one else I think played bass, are you aware of anyone else playing bass in that tour?
He did the first bass solo I ever hear in a live concert, it was mesmerizing!
When I seen the Firm it was with the bassist that was on the albums. (had long Spiked hair)
And i think He did do a bass solo
(although I was pretty buzzed ..but Not wasted to where i don't remember some details of the show...lol) I Don'r know If there was another bass player besides the original member.
Chris Slade was the drummer & he had a kick ass solo also.
And as i mentioned, they didn't do any Zep,
but Jimmy did do a mix of familiar Riffs in His little solo.
I was lucky to see their live debut in Stockholm 1984. I remember Jimmy played a bit weird sometimes and I think he was doing cocaine those days. The saliva was dripping from his mouth during the show.
You're welcome. I'm a bit of a collector of Zeppelin related stuff. I have this whole show and could try to figure out the compression and uploading if anyone is interested. And, yes, they did play Cadillac at this show and throughout the N.American tour.
My gosh they look like babies, they were so young,weren't we all?LOL!They still look great today ,but this was a shock!!! Thanks for posting,Love em soo much!
Thanks to whomever posted this! I taped this whole concert back in the 80's. A so-called friend of mine kept my copy but it's good to see this again!!!
I saw LZ at the L.A. Forum (The Lakers old home)in 1977 & they did this song but nobody remembers or believes me! I wish someone out there who was also at the show 6/22/77 would respond and let me know their thoughts and recollections. It kicked ass! I even remember Robert Plant intoducing the song as "something new"!
You sure it was'nt walters walk?? those two songs sound simuliar, but i believe you, anything is possible.. anyone else have any knowledge post it please!
I remember the lyrics containing the phrase "flames are getting higher & higher" so I believe it's the song "Closer" but maybe with a different title. I was not high because at this particular moment in my life I wasn't getting high. Could be something different, but I'm famous for having a great long term memory! This show still stands out in my mind as being in my top 2 concerts I witnessed personally along w/Pink Floyd's the wall in '79 at the L.A. Sports Arena, & Jeff Beck at the Greek in 80
i wish there was a way to hear everyo audio they ever done, cause it was aalways different.. thanks for sharing.. hope we get more feed back, i would love to hear Plant singing this
@ZoSoRecords Most if not all of the LA Forum 77 shows were recorded, and none have this tune on them. If you look up led zep bootlegs, you can see the setlists.
I'm sorry to say, but Zepp never did it. I have one of the biggest collections of Zepp on audio & video in North America, including all the Forum gigs in 1977 ---and all complete concerts and they never did it. Same as Walters Walk--never did it live. If you have any other questions on other songs, let me know ---or wait for my books coming soon. That 6/22/77 show was one of the best tho of the '77 tour --you're lucky.
If I'm incorrect I apologise, but I remember that guitar riff like it was yesterday! I remember the lyrics containing the same as what The Firm put down. I know it's a stretch, but is it possible this one got overlooked?
'cadillac' was done at this show, yes - it's on audio boots (the FM broadcast) and perhaps the MTV promo video culled from this gig. though it did not get a studio release until 'mean business', it was played live on the first firm tour.
cool tune-i saw the prototype firm live in nyc in 1983 , with jeff beck and eric clapton also on the bill-best show i think i have ever seen-ron wood was also on that bill...running probs with this vid on my computer tho
What a high school graduation present, a ticket to see the Firm live at Purdue's Elliot Hall of Music in 1985. Even though I was stoned out of my mind, I can still remeber Pages' guitar solo's and the awesome light show's that accompanied them. They rocked the house and did 3 or 4 encore's. This was one of the best concert's I've been to.
I was not trippin' but i was stoned and on cola... saw them in Omaha March 1985 page ran in a cirlcle like angus young and jammed, then the green dome came down and violin bow lit up... great concert, they did two encores that night, and Jimmy could of did more, but Paul shook his head to cut it off.. great times
Yes,I was trippin' when I seen him do that in Detroit '85.One of the best concerts I ever seen.Tony Franklin played Purple Haze on his bass solo.Member?
I believe there was some controversy as to who actually wrote the song dazed and confused over beck and page. There's a song jeff beck wrote called I'm confused which is basically the same song.
No, the song that is being disputed between Beck and Page is called "Beck's Bolero" not Dazed and Confused. Jake Holmes wrote "Dazed and Confused". "I'm Confused" is a rearrangement of Holmes's "Dazed and Confused" which was later credited and The Yardbirds.
it would be great if The Firm's official cds and videos are assembled in one remastered package. Even the weakest songs from Page deserve more attention and are cooler than a lot of today's music.
I hear ya. Even at the time the music was like updated but not spastic. The unfortunate thing was, and I still think is, neither Firm albums did well, though the shows were sellouts. There was some footage MTV had of a show that awesome.
I heard that this he UNRELEASED song by led zeppelin called fire
GuitarPhi1 4 weeks ago
Who is the drummer? Love his snare sound.
ANGELSVEN 1 month ago
@ANGELSVEN Chris Slade
ZoSoRecords 1 month ago
FUkking gods..I saw this tour in Oakland !
newarrior3000 5 months ago
i really like this a lot.
ytjk74 5 months ago
Pure magic. Oh hindsight and memories.
This I know cant happen again but it would be good to see someone put together something similar.
zak532 7 months ago 2
Pure Crap!
adelski68 11 months ago
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laksikakanchana 1 year ago
I saw these guys at The Spectrum in the spring of '85 and again in '86 (senior year of high school)... puked after multiple illegal beers at the vendor and a joint. A guy was pooring beer on my head behind me for puking in front of his girlfriend as Jimmy was performing a solo with his bow and guitar...... what a night... ha ha!!!
CHHSE1986 1 year ago
saw them in NYC @MSG April 1985 ! Page playing Fenders....wearing a scarf smokin` a cig too cool ....
signalsyyz 1 year ago
I saw this your in the summer of 85, it trully was the best of both bands!
SuperJrego 1 year ago
Does anybody know the song they play as an intro before the band opens with "Closer"? It sounds like a classical piece but I don't know what it is.
Thanks!
blampied 1 year ago
@blampied
holst's "the planets."
pungeon 1 year ago
@pungeon Thank You!!
blampied 1 year ago
If I was his age range and in London i would have been his g/f!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ER UM IF I HAD BEEN IN London :) Get me anywhere near that man!!!!!!!!!!!!! xoxo
jm6619 1 year ago
If I was his age range and in London i would have been his g/f!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ER UM IF I HAD BEEN IN London :) Get me anywhere near that man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jm6619 1 year ago
If I was his age range and in London i would have been his g/f!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ER UM IF I HAD BEEN IN London :)
jm6619 1 year ago
great tune franklin and slade kick it nice playing with gods
columbiacabins 1 year ago
I haven't heard this tune in so long. I forgot how cool the drums are, Slade's playing on this was a big influence on me back then, when I was learning to play.
It's a very "inside" groove. Awesome.
HollywoodWags 2 years ago
ONE OF THEIR BEST...IMO.
record1207 2 years ago
This album was among my very first cd's back in '85 -- extreme AWESOME!!!
bbser 2 years ago
Holy shit! Does JP even need oxygen.. Just look at him, that cigarette doesn't go anywhere!
jdbrown371 2 years ago
Music at 2:30 is it Mussorgski. I think it is.
jdbrown371 2 years ago
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polyorchids 2 years ago
@polyorchids..
You're right it's Holst. Jupiter I think...
jdbrown371 2 years ago
THE 80'S killed all good music....
kidzsanlorenzo 2 years ago
you are wrong.
queen was awesome at 80's
TheCheepnis 2 years ago 11
@TheCheepnis
Queen - all that glittered was not gold.
1fastfoot 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Actually, yo mama did with her insatiable appetite for negro stink and spear chuckin beats. Seriously man, fuck you!
MonsterCrypt 2 years ago
haha another victim of the 80's...
kidzsanlorenzo 2 years ago
I'm upset they took down the "Midnight Moonlight" video. That was their master work for sure. What a great tune from an underrated band.
filramil 2 years ago 11
@filramil Very true.
TheE1961 10 months ago
The fret less bass was the backbone sound for this band.. Jimmy used his stratocaster for many songs during this tour,
ZoSoRecords 2 years ago
@ZoSoRecords
ok girls like me have no idea what the f--ck that means...
how bout this....they rocked in the 80's man!
doodame 1 year ago
@ZoSoRecords Its a Telecaster
stevenrthr100 1 year ago 4
@stevenrthr100 Yeah.. that's right!! I knew caster was in there somewhere LoL
ZoSoRecords 1 year ago
@ZoSoRecords He used a blue Strat with The Firm also.
quicknessstyle 1 year ago
@stevenrthr100
see the double cutaway, It is a Strat.
francescaemc2 6 months ago
@francescaemc2 Wrong . Tele.
stevenrthr100 6 months ago
@francescaemc2
yes, you are right!
francescaemc2 6 months ago
Page had a weird guitar tone with The Firm. It sounded like he had every stompbox turned on at once - just like this footage. I always thought his playing with this band was substandard, but I still loved the band and their music.
sbridgefield 2 years ago
That sound is the Boss CE-2 Chrous pedal and everybody used them in the '80s...It works here for me because I love Jimmy and he can do no wrong where tone is concerned,but indeed the Boss Chorus sucks the life out of everyone-it is boxy in an anachronistic '80s way...Although Jimmy still sounds fuckin' greta to me:)
garbeaj 2 years ago 2
Jimmy Page is a dynamo of energy, whose creativity and musical variations of the Legendary Zeppelin signature continues, uncompromised!
1fastfoot 2 years ago
it rocks and allways will
vandos11 2 years ago
What voice Paul Rodgers......
pappatacio66 2 years ago
I got the opportunity to see the Firm on their first US tour.
On the Floor 11 roles back from the stage.
It Was magical to say the least.
Some were disappointed that they didn't do any Zeppelin or Bad Co songs,
but i was happy that they didn't myself.
They did do a number or two from the "Death wish"2 sdk which was a bonus
and Overall they Rocked our Balls Off!!!
Jimmy Page Will Always be a Legend in the R&R world.
murdock6107 2 years ago
Murdocks6107, ditto, I saw them in 1985 I think it was, and Jason Bonham on drums, it was truly amazing to be there! Some one else I think played bass, are you aware of anyone else playing bass in that tour?
He did the first bass solo I ever hear in a live concert, it was mesmerizing!
rpowarz 2 years ago
Hey rpowarz,
When I seen the Firm it was with the bassist that was on the albums. (had long Spiked hair)
And i think He did do a bass solo
(although I was pretty buzzed ..but Not wasted to where i don't remember some details of the show...lol) I Don'r know If there was another bass player besides the original member.
Chris Slade was the drummer & he had a kick ass solo also.
And as i mentioned, they didn't do any Zep,
but Jimmy did do a mix of familiar Riffs in His little solo.
murdock6107 2 years ago 2
he did do a bass solo back around 85-86 and it was puple haze by jimi hendrix
jimmyonetooth 2 years ago
The bassist's name is Tony Franklin. He's one bad-ass dude. Maybe the best fretless player since Jaco Pastorius.
Kkrouton 2 years ago
@Kkrouton Don't forget Percy Jones, my friend.
dharmaseed 1 year ago
screw Clapton Jimmy Page is god!
ezri99 2 years ago
Jimmy Page's voice makes me melt.
Sanctimoniously 3 years ago
Me too, and I'm a guy.
ludwigvan17 3 years ago
me too. The Rainbow was a blast afterwards too! Thanks Mario!
ochinochi 3 years ago
yeap i witness 4 of the firms show. again paul rodgers with the all mighty jimmy page this time
zosoandbadcompanyman 3 years ago
amazing .... hanx alot! great video...
PAULOcbi 3 years ago
I was lucky to see their live debut in Stockholm 1984. I remember Jimmy played a bit weird sometimes and I think he was doing cocaine those days. The saliva was dripping from his mouth during the show.
staernpeder 3 years ago
Jimmy's a drooler for sure. Wasn't the cocaine. It's from the dentures. Really. LOL. Jimmy had some bad teeth back in the day.
zeppyday 3 years ago
Jimmy had dentures?
hazel10987 2 years ago
Folks, the correct date of this show is Dec. 09 1984
zeppyday 3 years ago
Thanks for that... I saw them in the US in March of 1985, so i was'nt sure if this was in late 84' or early 85' ?
ZoSoRecords 3 years ago
You're welcome. I'm a bit of a collector of Zeppelin related stuff. I have this whole show and could try to figure out the compression and uploading if anyone is interested. And, yes, they did play Cadillac at this show and throughout the N.American tour.
zeppyday 3 years ago
Hi I would be really interested in hearing that!
Cheers
Graham
rightyrighty 3 years ago
LOL I forgot about this. I'll see what I can do.
zeppyday 3 years ago
Ok-Cheers!
rightyrighty 3 years ago
ALWAYS LOVED PAUL RODGERS VOICE!
susie3764 3 years ago
the bass player looks too shy shy, hush hush, eye 2 eye!
baredd79 3 years ago
I hate Pagey's tone. Too 80s for me.
vonludwig84 3 years ago
My gosh they look like babies, they were so young,weren't we all?LOL!They still look great today ,but this was a shock!!! Thanks for posting,Love em soo much!
msstevie1951 3 years ago
This is The Best Firm Song!
TigerSharkTerr 3 years ago 2
Chris Slade rocks!!!
lisaluvsjoee 3 years ago
is in background b4..
halonkandy 3 years ago
The name of that show is "Ten Years On For Badgeholders"
Here is the set list:
(...the usual songs)
Over The Top
Guitar Solo
Achilles Last Stand
Stairway To Heaven
Whole Lotta Love
Rock and Roll
Maybe "Over the Top"?
PhototropicLemon 3 years ago
This is def a cool 80's jam! Tony Franklin is a VERY under rated bassist! :)
unstablebobgable 3 years ago
I saw their second ever concert in Lund, Sweden in 1984 on this tour and Page was out of it...
BONAFIDEteevee 3 years ago
This show was recored at the Hammersmith Odeon I believe. I wish I had seen the Firm back in the Eighties. They were original to say the least!!!
SARATT69 3 years ago
Thanks to whomever posted this! I taped this whole concert back in the 80's. A so-called friend of mine kept my copy but it's good to see this again!!!
SARATT69 3 years ago
I saw LZ at the L.A. Forum (The Lakers old home)in 1977 & they did this song but nobody remembers or believes me! I wish someone out there who was also at the show 6/22/77 would respond and let me know their thoughts and recollections. It kicked ass! I even remember Robert Plant intoducing the song as "something new"!
Please comment!
igluver15 3 years ago
You sure it was'nt walters walk?? those two songs sound simuliar, but i believe you, anything is possible.. anyone else have any knowledge post it please!
ZoSoRecords 3 years ago
I remember the lyrics containing the phrase "flames are getting higher & higher" so I believe it's the song "Closer" but maybe with a different title. I was not high because at this particular moment in my life I wasn't getting high. Could be something different, but I'm famous for having a great long term memory! This show still stands out in my mind as being in my top 2 concerts I witnessed personally along w/Pink Floyd's the wall in '79 at the L.A. Sports Arena, & Jeff Beck at the Greek in 80
igluver15 3 years ago
i wish there was a way to hear everyo audio they ever done, cause it was aalways different.. thanks for sharing.. hope we get more feed back, i would love to hear Plant singing this
ZoSoRecords 3 years ago
@ZoSoRecords Most if not all of the LA Forum 77 shows were recorded, and none have this tune on them. If you look up led zep bootlegs, you can see the setlists.
optivore 1 year ago
I'm sorry to say, but Zepp never did it. I have one of the biggest collections of Zepp on audio & video in North America, including all the Forum gigs in 1977 ---and all complete concerts and they never did it. Same as Walters Walk--never did it live. If you have any other questions on other songs, let me know ---or wait for my books coming soon. That 6/22/77 show was one of the best tho of the '77 tour --you're lucky.
g4340 3 years ago
If I'm incorrect I apologise, but I remember that guitar riff like it was yesterday! I remember the lyrics containing the same as what The Firm put down. I know it's a stretch, but is it possible this one got overlooked?
igluver15 3 years ago
The name of that show is "Ten Years On For Badgeholders"
Here is the set list:
(...the usual songs)
Over The Top
Guitar Solo
Achilles Last Stand
Stairway To Heaven
Whole Lotta Love
Rock and Roll
Maybe "Over the Top"?
PhototropicLemon 3 years ago
@igluver15 what the hell are talking about
The090968 1 year ago
@The090968 it was the song "itll be me" that they played in the forum but he has forgtten this and thinks they played closer
Matthew9444 1 year ago
yo could you possibly put cadillac up from this show? i think they did that at this show
thetanman2233 3 years ago
Cadillac was the mean business tour... i have no live footage of that tour.
ZoSoRecords 3 years ago
ah damn, alright i could have sworn i read somewhere that the setlist included cadillac, thanks anyway man
thetanman2233 3 years ago
'cadillac' was done at this show, yes - it's on audio boots (the FM broadcast) and perhaps the MTV promo video culled from this gig. though it did not get a studio release until 'mean business', it was played live on the first firm tour.
dljone9 2 years ago
i love when they come out on stage. that first riff from page makes my heart skip a beat. love the firm.
myfordranger 3 years ago
Jimmy is so calm... with a whiskey on the rocks in his hand :)
ZoSoRecords 3 years ago
I really dug this band, made a point of stealing (kidding) both LPs as soon as they came out. Kinda odd the band didn't last longer.
pegleyjr 3 years ago
... nice suit!
sparklewebs 3 years ago
hello sparkle. jimmy looks so cute here. hello zoso.
ZepBeat 3 years ago
here he comes the formal led zep axe man himself jimmy page. here those people when page comes out? magic. cool riffs too.
myfordranger 3 years ago
Rock'n persons, The Firm. IN my library vinyl. Only wish I could see more vids of them.
rce13 4 years ago
cool tune-i saw the prototype firm live in nyc in 1983 , with jeff beck and eric clapton also on the bill-best show i think i have ever seen-ron wood was also on that bill...running probs with this vid on my computer tho
earthsystem03 4 years ago
sweet
Monponsett 4 years ago
What a high school graduation present, a ticket to see the Firm live at Purdue's Elliot Hall of Music in 1985. Even though I was stoned out of my mind, I can still remeber Pages' guitar solo's and the awesome light show's that accompanied them. They rocked the house and did 3 or 4 encore's. This was one of the best concert's I've been to.
summeroflovebaby 4 years ago
Jimmy is NOT banged up here...... and looks as healthy as I have ever seen him. His playing proves it. He is on point.
I never saw the Firm live....... They sound good to me,
The ARMS show I saw..... jimmy was on another planet.
With Zep live..... he never sounded bad.
chiachllc 4 years ago
I was not trippin' but i was stoned and on cola... saw them in Omaha March 1985 page ran in a cirlcle like angus young and jammed, then the green dome came down and violin bow lit up... great concert, they did two encores that night, and Jimmy could of did more, but Paul shook his head to cut it off.. great times
ZoSoRecords 4 years ago
the firm show was cool. jimmy did the guitar bow under the green laser triangle for his solo! the firm never really caught on but i love them.
ehutch7 4 years ago 2
Yes,I was trippin' when I seen him do that in Detroit '85.One of the best concerts I ever seen.Tony Franklin played Purple Haze on his bass solo.Member?
motorcitystevo 4 years ago
funny, so was i, lol
ehutch7 4 years ago
guys
dazed and confused was gonna be a yardbirds song
what dose it matter hell
THE FIRM is perhaps the most under appreciated band in history
Catzi2 4 years ago
I believe there was some controversy as to who actually wrote the song dazed and confused over beck and page. There's a song jeff beck wrote called I'm confused which is basically the same song.
ragepoppa 4 years ago
No, the song that is being disputed between Beck and Page is called "Beck's Bolero" not Dazed and Confused. Jake Holmes wrote "Dazed and Confused". "I'm Confused" is a rearrangement of Holmes's "Dazed and Confused" which was later credited and The Yardbirds.
hazel10987 4 years ago
man is jimmy page god when he walks out on to the stage? damn..
myfordranger 4 years ago 2
Closer was originally going to be a Led Zeppeling song. I heard the riff on a bootleg studio jam.
stereoevil 4 years ago
Can you hear that bootleg on internet?
Planefreak23 4 years ago
I dont know, I never bother looking but I have it somewhere in my collection.
stereoevil 4 years ago
Page is always better then everyone else. Meaning his worst performance is still better than anything else. Peace.
IhateNirvana 4 years ago 2
At Last! A good Page performance...!
Nacho66 4 years ago
it would be great if The Firm's official cds and videos are assembled in one remastered package. Even the weakest songs from Page deserve more attention and are cooler than a lot of today's music.
pepelrh 4 years ago
I hear ya. Even at the time the music was like updated but not spastic. The unfortunate thing was, and I still think is, neither Firm albums did well, though the shows were sellouts. There was some footage MTV had of a show that awesome.
PhilabustaBlue 4 years ago
this is it LOL
ZoSoRecords 4 years ago
yes, page rules. seen both firm tours in US. great shows. I love this video.
blackmikesilver 4 years ago
man i get goosebumps watching Jimmy walk out on set... so calm, so cool...brings back memories!!
ZoSoRecords 4 years ago
That was great, awesome, didn't suck...etc..thx.. ;)
Kimmypage44 4 years ago
They ought to reissue the two albums together with a bonus DVD...
fg67hhkd9 4 years ago
now thats a great idea!
ZoSoRecords 4 years ago
Yeah, they could put the live footage and "Five from The Firm" on the DVD, and things like the Radioactive 12" as bonus tracks on the albums.
fg67hhkd9 4 years ago
Thank you...thank you...thank you. I'm one of Jimmy Page's biggest fans.
blackaurora44 4 years ago
awesome!
stringtheories25 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this. Much appreciated.
MrZoSo 4 years ago
blues... I saw this same tour 4 months later.. March of 1985..
ZoSoRecords 4 years ago