US General states Bush & co. are war criminals

[marumito]

general taguba is my HERO!!! hurray for telling the truth...

[JoeBobJimboXBL]

Some of you people do realize that they maybe under US protection, but that doesnt grant them amnesty. They AREN'T US citizens and they have no rights under the constitution. The only rights they have are the rights God gave them, but they aren't covered by beatings and whatnot because they are in prison

[skwiddjergensen]

Pretty brave to say when you are RETIRED. Where was he as an ACTIVE DUTY GENERAL. Pretty learly damning inditment on TAGALA TAGUBA, another FLIP living off the americans who saved his ass "so long ago".

[beavismagnum]

a couple terrorists got booboos?

oh my god

what has america come to?

you're right. people who intend to do harm to americans, and do not have american citizenship, and therefore are not protected by the constitution, should still get all the rights americans have, huh.

[grazon]

Taguba is a United States General.

Who are you and why should we listen to you over him?

[beavismagnum]

Taguba WAS a Major General. He retired a year before he even made the comments in this video. You always point out that Taguba was a general, but that's not the point. DEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCR­ATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMO­CRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDE­MOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRAT­DEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCR­ATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMO­CRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDE­MOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRAT­DEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCR­ATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMO­CRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRATDEMOCRAT

[grazon]

Maybe you've never heard but there's a saying in the military.

Once a General always a General.

[beavismagnum]

Maybe so, but you still just keep bringing up that he was a general....I'm not trying to discredit him, I'm just saying that I don't think people should make such a huge deal about it. We're talking about terrorists, not just any criminals.

[grazon]

If you're talking about Abu Ghraib you are mistaken.

[fringefries]

beavismagnum, the fact that you have to fight on all fronts and admit no error or display no humility means you've already lost credibility and authority.There are no points which you will concede, however you've lost almost every single one.Wiping your ass on our great nations flag will not endear you to anyone on this channel and your insanity is no mote defensive to a house. Your guards are dead and now it seems in your insanity and desperation you've decided to release the miniature poodles.

[johnnytx45]

That's goes for the Marines, fucktard

[skwiddjergensen]

Taguba is a Medical Officer trying to cover his own ass! Where were the Line Officers and Medical Officers when these terrorists were being tortured by enlisted people? Once again, NO ACCOUNTABILITY. Piss on that slef serving FLIP!!!

[grazon]

Taguba is a GENERAL not that you care after all in your sick little bliss ninny mind if it's not perfect it's evil.

[skwiddjergensen]

@grazon Exactley flipboy! Where was he four years ago before his bad mouthing of the president. ONLY enlisted men were punished. What was TAGALA TAGUBA doing? Masterbating while watching the photos on his lap top no doubt.

[grazon]

"ONLY enlisted men were punished."?

You obviously never heard about the officer(s) that almost did time.

[wittumy]

beavis.....what has America come to when people like you wish to piss on our values. Americans were killed in every conceivable way in two world wars, Korea and Vietnam and we held our heads high and showed the world we are above such things as torture. A couple of terrorists scared little beavis into actions brave Americans would never think of.

[saavocastillo]

she is hot i beleive everything she says

[Dendroaspis1]

Don't hurt the terrorists bro! They don't really bother anyone, just a few minor things like fly planes into buildings and behead reporters, no big deal, they have rights too!

[grazon]

Antonio Taguba is a General.

Who are you?

[Dendroaspis1]

No who are you? Oh yeah some left-wing nutjob.

[grazon]

If I'm a left-wing nutjob so is General Taguba and most of the country.

[wittumy]

dendr....got something against maintaining American values? You mean Americans could go through ww2 without torture and maintain our values and you let some punks from the middle east scare you that much!

[beavismagnum]

well they're obviously not in the middle east if they can attack america

[wittumy]

beavis....read...I said FROM the middle east. I guess you support giving in to them....their mission is to scare us into exactly what you're supporting. I disagree...I feel we can maintain our values and keep our country safe.

[FlowFighter21]

some pretty fucked up shit. watch 'taxi to the dark side' great documentary.

[FowlPrey12]

who cares? they're terrorists.

[grazon]

Uh no remember the guy on the box at Abu Ghraib?

He was a car thief.

[FowlPrey12]

Ok. I'm talking about the terrorists discussed in this story. THey mention ABu Ghraib, but that isn't what the story's about

[gcrebel2008]

Typical CNN. LOOK HOW THEY TREATED OUR MEN! SAWED THEIR HEADS OFF, BURNED THEM, DRUGG THEM DOWN THE STREET. THEY NEED TO BE TO TORTURED.

[grazon]

Is it your time of the month lady?

[russiianboymoscow]

nyjew,i think we should gas all the inmates

[mdelcamp1]

As an American who actually studied civics, U.S. and World History in schools, I find in totally incredulous that this Bush Cheney White House and the U.S. Congress, both Houses, and the American "Free" but Corporatized Press, and the U.S. Supreme Court, and the American People have allowed the wholesale destruction of our longstanding system of government - separation of powers, justice under law, slow to anger, open government and so on. Our U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, all is in shreds.

[Gee741852963]

Most of the people don't want to listen just because the truth is often very unconfortable.

Torture?

Kidnapping?

Rape?

Depleted Uranium?

We don't do that!

We are the "Good Guys".

[theriffer]

Those same sorry bastards that were so called "tortured" would strap a bomb to themselves, walk into to your house with your wife, mother, father & children presence, and then pull the the trigger and send everybody there into eternity.

Tell me now, what was the U.S. army guilty of again?. I missed it thinking of my children and grandchildren getting blown to bits!

[grazon]

A common car thief has no interest in suicide bombing yet we tortured one.

[theriffer]

The future of your county is fucked if you think the people that were 'tortured' were just trying to steal your car! I can only hope for the rest of the free world you are in a majority of one! God help us all!!!!

They can't cause enough pain for these murdeous pricks that would satisfy me. Guess I keep thinking about my really cute, innocent granddaughter that these lowlifes would just love to blow up to pieces. Fuck them and the camel they rode in on! Hurray for the U.S army!!!!

[grazon]

Google Satar Jabar he was there for hot wiring a car!

[PoliticalFix]

please sign the dennis kucinich petition to impeach george bush. the link is on my profile page.

[fringefries]

What good is this going to do? If Bush had gotten a blow job then we could impeach but, all he did was approve torture and an unlawfull war that killed hundreds of thousands of people. Don't you know anything? Really, you sound so shallow.

[PoliticalFix]

many of our top military leaders are very concerned that mccain lacks the proper temperament to be commander in chief. they are worried he may not be mentally stable.

the real question regarding mccain is - does he share your values?

here is a video of mccain sharing his chilling vision for the future:

watch?v=YYJPuKWZlVs

google - vietnam veterans against mccain

[skhan1943]

PoliticalFix; "many of our top military leaders are very concerned that mccain lacks the proper temperament to be commander in chief. they are worried he may not be mentally stable."

PoliticalFix, a friend of mine worked with McCain for a number of years. She says he has the most explosive, vile, obscene, out-of-control temper she's ever seen.

She's the most loyal Republican that I know, and she says he's unfit to hold office and she will never vote for McCain.

[grazon]

The big question is will she speak out against McCain?

[skhan1943]

grazon; "The big question is will she speak out against McCain?"

She already has, grazon, and continues to do so at every opportunity.

She REALLY hates the guy.

[mdelcamp1]

Many if not all Navy guys, such as my own Father, have explosive personalities. It goes with the territory of being trained for warfare, I think. McCain is mostly civil. If he cannot "let down his hair" with his own staff, ah well.... Lots of people have extremely low tolerance for any dramatics or emotional color. I find such dry as bone people difficult to work and live with, here in Pilgrim Puritanville New England, as I am a rather mercurial Italian guy. Even expressive hands scare 'em.

[skhan1943]

mdelcamp1; "I think. McCain is mostly civil. If he cannot "let down his hair" with his own staff, ah well...."

mdelcamp1, my friend was NOT an employee of McCain's. She was the VP of a company providing a service being installed in all the Arizona state buildings. She had to work with McCain because both state and federal funding was involved.

As for her "tolerance for emotional color" - my friend is Italian, too.

McCain is just.....McNasty.

[mdelcamp1]

I am not going into it too much more with you, 2nd or 3rd hand, other than to say neither you nor I were present or know the particulars. Besides, character is not necessarily demeanor. People can smile and not mean "let's be friends" you know. I like McCain's principled stands on issues. As with show business, it takes guts to stand in and hold your ground on political imperatives, as McCain does. McCain is one of few I know fighting Pentagon and Government Waste and misguided policies.

[skhan1943]

mdelcamp1; "I am not going into it too much more with you, 2nd or 3rd hand, other than to say neither you nor I were present or know the particulars."

No, we weren't.

However, my friend is a very polished, saavy lady who is adept at handling difficult people and situations. For her to say this about McCain has a lot more weight for me than, say, a staffer who got ripped by him.

And there are REAMS of documented material (including videos) showing McCain's explosive temper.

McNasty.

[mdelcamp1]

I could call you and your friend "McNasties" for publicly bringing up an evident contract dispute involving government expenditures, which as any knowledgeable person knows, is rife with bureaucracies, rules and regs, politics and yes, possibly, irate yet powerful clients. Maybe McCain "lighting a fire" under your friend, save your friend's contracted company "the long way around." Further, "ANGER IS THE MARK OF A CIVILIZED MAN" SO ERGO MCCAIN IS CIVILIZED. It charms me that McCain gets ANGRY.

[skhan1943]

mdelcamp1; "I could call you and your friend "McNasties" for publicly bringing up an evident contract dispute..."

mdelcamp1, you keep making assumptions not supported by what I've written.

There was no contract dispute. McCain is a control freak, and he wanted to write the ROI HIS way. My friend had been dealing with the government and doing this for years, and had a successfull proven methodolgy for it.

(Continued)

[skhan1943]

McCain's attempt had ALREADY failed.

A VP doesn't normally get involved at this level, but nobody else in her company could work with him.

McCain didn't "save her company" - she saved his proposal and got it through both the state and federal bureaucracies.

BTW: You keep saying that McCain's anger "charms" you, while refusing to look at the voluminous evidence out there. If you did, you might not continue to be so "charmed".

[mdelcamp1]

I go with what you tell me. So let me tell you: Democrats can be really nice people, friendly, TV photogenic, young, enthusiastic, optimists, AND THEY CAN BE WRONG AS CAN BE about Russia, the Middle East, Abortion, the Economy, and who Obama really is and what he really intends to do with the U.S. Presidency, i.e., escalate war in Afghanistan. McCain or whomever - take Andrew Jackson for a good example - may be ornery, curmudgeonly, downright unpleasant, AND RIGHT ON THIS, THAT & OTHER ISSUES.

[GDS1581]

I bet you there is some kind of an agreement between the government and companies like Sony, Apple, etc., or production companies, to release new products and crappy TV shows to divert the people's attention from the illegal events. People have to realize that these A-Holes treat the American public like children. It is time to see through all the "slight of hand" and rise up with one voice and bring justice to the White House front door and see it through!

[mcalien24]

try rating the video...does it work for you?

[dellsprospects2]

just another piece of evidence to add to the pile...wake up

[joebtflsk]

History will write of the United States in the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson, "What you are thunders so loudly that I can't hear what you say to the contrary."

[grazon]

I know that when General Batiste spoke every serviceman with the balls to post on his youtube vid supported his objection to the war.

[blair227]

Grazon,even if they aren't impeached,they can still be tried in the Hague for war crimes after they leave office.I have been for Impeachment for 7 years since I think he and his minions stole the 1st election.

[Pleblian]

grazon... I'm afraid to say it, but everybody that has been involved is going to walk. They can't even impeach this administration, so holding trials for war crimes is out of the question.

[skhan1943]

grazon, It will be interesting to see how the "you're a traitor for doubting our government" crowd will respond to these revelations.

Care to offer any speculations about that? (Curious)

[grazon]

Chances are they'll respond with a variation of the head in the sand "tactic".

Still with every revelation a few former Bush supporters leave politics in disgust.

And a few of them return to politics on the correct side.

[skhan1943]

grazon; "Still with every revelation a few former Bush supporters leave politics in disgust.

And a few of them return to politics on the correct side."

Good point. I never thought about it that way. The hard-core flag wavers tend to be so loud and obnoxious that they drown out the more reasonable types.

[grazon]

The reasonable ones don't usualy do a public about face.  They usualy just get quiter.

[skhan1943]

I've actually noticed that on these threads, grazon.

With a few notable exceptions, there seem to be fewer Right-Wing nutcase posters lately.

[t4705mb6]

Arrest Bush, Cheney and their whole MOB of THUGS! Absolutely DISGUSTING! The military is having S&M TORTURE PARTIES with INNOCENT victims on orders from Cheney & Bush!!!

I wonder which underlings they'll blame THIS time and throw into the volcano??!! It just makes me PUKE!!

This is ILLEGAL AND IMORAL! Ready to IMPEACH yet??? "Rah! RAh! USA! My country, wrong or wrong!"