While I do belive it's true that people's judgments of disabled people are usually more underestamating of their capabilities than they actually are, I think no one has the right to any kind of good or service that does not change hands trough volontary exchange. Also, i belive the equality before law means that everyone gets the exact same treatment from the state regardless of any of his qualities, even if the person has some form of disability.
I don't get it. where Ableism starts and where consideration for other people's limitations end? There are some obvious limitations for disabled people. Like using stairs while confined to weel chairs.
Most of what was showed here is actually racism against disabled people. But I dunno it's possible to make a comparison to the way society saw black people. Colored rooms and handicap spaces are not the same kind of thing.
@NVaizard Thanks for watching and commenting. An alternative example to handicap spaces would be public buildings with stairs and no wheelchair ramp, or people getting turned down for jobs simply because they have a disability, without even getting the chance to have an interview. There are few accounts of people with disabilities being accurately portrayed in the media as well. Ableism isn't as obvious to many as racism or sexism may be, though it can and does affect lives just as harshly.
@NVaizard Just imagine living as a disabled person, and getting treated differently and separately wherever you go, no matter how physically or mentally impaired you may actually be. You can't really understand how it can be an -ism until you yourself are disabled.
I hope that helps. I'm still trying to understand it myself.
@rhymeswithbowie I do get your point. This is in fact racism. On the other hand been seen differently is one thing, but the lack of facilities equiped for disabled people is mostly because of monetary expenses. The equipment is more expensive than the regular and sometimes it's reserved for disabled people. Because of that most stableshments works in the limit of what law allows, and nothing more. I'm not saying that's not wrong, or not a problem, but I don't think it's racism for most part
@NVaizard The fact that those "handicap spaces" are often across a street or have no ramp to get to the sidewalk is a better example- useless for many who need accommodation, simply because someone with ability was thoughtless and careless. People who call my kid nasty names just because his speech pattern is different, and assume he is stupid (despite his advanced academic abilities).
While I do belive it's true that people's judgments of disabled people are usually more underestamating of their capabilities than they actually are, I think no one has the right to any kind of good or service that does not change hands trough volontary exchange. Also, i belive the equality before law means that everyone gets the exact same treatment from the state regardless of any of his qualities, even if the person has some form of disability.
AtheistRightWing 7 months ago
I don't get it. where Ableism starts and where consideration for other people's limitations end? There are some obvious limitations for disabled people. Like using stairs while confined to weel chairs.
Most of what was showed here is actually racism against disabled people. But I dunno it's possible to make a comparison to the way society saw black people. Colored rooms and handicap spaces are not the same kind of thing.
NVaizard 8 months ago
@NVaizard Thanks for watching and commenting. An alternative example to handicap spaces would be public buildings with stairs and no wheelchair ramp, or people getting turned down for jobs simply because they have a disability, without even getting the chance to have an interview. There are few accounts of people with disabilities being accurately portrayed in the media as well. Ableism isn't as obvious to many as racism or sexism may be, though it can and does affect lives just as harshly.
rhymeswithbowie 8 months ago
@NVaizard Just imagine living as a disabled person, and getting treated differently and separately wherever you go, no matter how physically or mentally impaired you may actually be. You can't really understand how it can be an -ism until you yourself are disabled.
I hope that helps. I'm still trying to understand it myself.
rhymeswithbowie 8 months ago
@rhymeswithbowie I do get your point. This is in fact racism. On the other hand been seen differently is one thing, but the lack of facilities equiped for disabled people is mostly because of monetary expenses. The equipment is more expensive than the regular and sometimes it's reserved for disabled people. Because of that most stableshments works in the limit of what law allows, and nothing more. I'm not saying that's not wrong, or not a problem, but I don't think it's racism for most part
NVaizard 8 months ago
@NVaizard Works for me.
rhymeswithbowie 8 months ago
@NVaizard The fact that those "handicap spaces" are often across a street or have no ramp to get to the sidewalk is a better example- useless for many who need accommodation, simply because someone with ability was thoughtless and careless. People who call my kid nasty names just because his speech pattern is different, and assume he is stupid (despite his advanced academic abilities).
Disability is not a race, either.
elloraluna 2 days ago