i have been installing and repairing doors and motors for over 15yrs..i have had the center bracket come out on me,old springs snap as i took the tension off and had new springs snap as well. good luck to all of you that try it!!!
YOU CAN NOT HAVE A "DIY" VIDEO AND TELL PEOPLE " YOU AS A DO IT YOURSELFER SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS"
So many things wrong with this video.
1. Someone who has never done what they are doing should never make a DIY video
2. Never install springs on the left or right just because that's how they are painted, the ends are interchangeable ,someone could have put the wrong colour end on the wrong spring.
If you slip or the spring breaks are your face and knuckles and time off work injured worth saving $100? If you don't measure right and install the wrong size spring the door will not function properly and it will damage your garage door opener.
You can also use a 5/16" cable clamp and clamp the broken spring together and re-wind it. I work for a garage door company, and we do that a lot to broken springs so the door will work before we can get back with the right springs.
And another, all the "pros" w you didn't say this. You got a 16' board, I hope ya die. Real professional, am sure a bunch of you are real worried about people's safety. With no thought to the nice chunk of $ you loose. When an older gentleman gets up in shorts and casually does something you'd like people to believe is almost certain death, lol. Imo ... he definitely said enough to tip people that there are safety issues and they need to do their own research before attempting this DIY project.
Appreciate the video. Yep, broken torsion spring. Yep planning on DIY too. OMG ... it's a wonder he survived. He looked like he was sweating bullets and near death several times during this vid. Gimme a break all these bonehead "professionals". Many of us aren't afraid of our own shadows ... nor stupid. So as much as I'm sure you'd like folks to hand ya a few hundred bucks for 30-40mins work. Get over yourself and welcome to the information age, where people can actually share info and learn eh.
Thanks for posting this video. I can understand why there would be those that would choose to have a professional do this, but for those with mechanical inclination, physical ability, and time, this is a very doable project. After I watched the videos, it took me 45 min to complete, even with a couple of flies in the ointment, and $44 (w/ shipping) on ebay for a high cycle sping.
My company in Mesa, Arizona will replace your single spring for $150 and double for $179 on virtually every door. There are some specialty doors that are heavier than normal, but that is the extreme exception. Door weight and height must be accurate or your springs will not lift your door properly. Get it done professionally, get a warranty, get it done fast, and get it done right the first time.
i have a small repair co. in florida i charage $128 for one and $191 for two. my labor is $65 springs are $63 ea. i also give a 2yr warranty an will come back to your home to lube and adjust your springs and door at no charge
This is a great video. Thanks for posting it. You saved me hundreds that I frankly don't have to spend right now. The job was just as easy as you made it look. Anyone that knows what end of a wrench to hold could do this.
AWESOME VIDEO! Replaced both torsion springs for $75. I Canada, this would have been very expensive hire out. Rate the difficulty at maybe 2.5 (much easier than I expected). You can buy a 36" piece 1/2" steel bar and cut in half for your "winding tools" Home Depot for $8. Trust me, do it yourself. Dont worry about the pro's, there will always be business from those that are unable or unwilling to take tasks like this on themselves. Dont believe the scare tactics.
I've replaced many springs for customers with casts on their hands from attempting this. Not only do they hurth themselves but in some cases damage the door even further. Sometimes it's bad enough repairing doors that have been hacked in by "professionals", let alone someone without any experience. This video should just be an 8 minute link to the yellow pages.
haha i do this everyday for a living. and its better to pay us around 200 bucks to do it. also whats up with the wood struts he has on this door? the weight ads up.
Lol I changed a torsion spring at my grandmothers house a few years back and the damn bar swung back and hit me off the ladder. Hurt like a mother effer but I was 21 or so and got back up and finished the job. Be very very careful. About to tackle the job again at my mom's house this weekend. Great DIY, thank god for youtube, this will make the steps go much easier.
hey mr.do it your self whats the reason for adding 10lbs to your door with putting wood across it to make it more sturdy? glad you through of that when you were replacing your springs because now your going to get less life out of the springs with added weight good job numb nuts hope the winding bar does knock you out as you let go
as for the people who actually take note of this guy do not attempt to do it your-self you can get very hurt an risk spending a lot of money due to failure of this
Gary...thanks for this video. Before I saw the video I was not prepared to do the job. But the video was perfect. I completed mine today. 2 springs $150, saved $105 in labor, Total repair time 2 hrs. One of the easiest jobs I have done for DIY (especially after seeing your video). "You Da Man"
Gary...thanks for this video. Before I saw the video I was not prepared to do the job. But the video was perfect. I completed mine today. 2 springs $150, saved $105 in labor, Total repair time 2 hrs. One of the easiest jobs I have done for DIY (especially after seeing your video). "You Da Man"
Good video. BUT, this is probably one of the most dangerous DIY jobs one can attempt. You mentioned marking/taping your bars. These MUST be fully engaged in the hole when winding on the pressure. Use STEEL bars. Not "rebar", big screwdrivers, copper pipe, etc. I wear goggles and heavy gloves when I wind. Take your time. Get solid on the ladder. Use an open end wrench instead of box end or socket/ratchet. When releasing the tension keep a bar on it. A real old spring might not release easily.
Just wanted to confirm just how danger these springs are. I was trying to stablize a very unsafe-looking spring last night without know anything about garage doors (it didn't seem like it'd be too complicated). As I was working on it the tension suddenly broke free. It tore a hole in the ceiling, shattered a 2"x8" board into pieces like it was tissue paper, and tore a hole in my hand barely missing my head. Believe me these things are dangerous. I'm lucky to be alive.
There are a lot of companies out there charging up to half of the cost of an ENTIRELY NEW garage door to change two springs. Most of these DIY videos are horrible; at least this one teaches you how to do it safely, if not entirely properly.
If you are in the Naples, Marco Island, Bonita Springs, FL region; I would recommend calling A. Faust Garage Door Services, LLC. For what you will pay for new springs and shipping on the internet. We will fix it. (239)591-4229 or just GOOGLE A. Faust Garage
@MelvinTheDestroyer my disability was due to my boss forcing me to service your mothers rank ass pussy without providing my with the appropriate safety equipment you should be able to understand where I'm coming from, your whole body slid through that fecal lined cum bucket....
Its funny when he says as a do it yourselfer shouldn't be doing this? Ok, first who is he? And why is he making this video? Cause I can bet he's not the professional... Just sayin atleast edit ur video or pick some different choice of words....
@bronc82003 Gary is just adding that disclaimer at the beginning of his diy vid to prevent those that would sue should they try this job and subsequently spill their coffee and burn their leg (or some other variation of that theme). This is a great video from a diy'er to others of the same mind-set. I can use the money I saved to attend a NHL hockey game and watch the Vancouver Canucks embarass the Chicago Blackhawks.... :)
There are many variables to garage doors. It took 2yrs of 10-14hr days 6 days a week b4 I was cocky enough to think I knew it all. Then I really learned, broken bones, stitches,back and abdominal herniations. In 15yrs I'm now disabled from the industry. Ever seen an old man as a svc tec???
@frankt04 - Holy shit, Frank, you sound too stupid to realize you're too stupid to have been doing the job! Is your disability related to mental health??
Caution not mentioned!!!! If your drums are on the outside of the track the spring will turn up towards the ceiling for this setup. If your focused on it turning down you will unknowingly allow the winding bar to come out of the cone resulting is sever damage to your hand!!!
Gary, You have done a pretty good job for it being your first time. I am a professional, and I can't tell you how many times my customers have referenced your video before calling for service. DIY-ers should be cautioned though, about following instructions too closely from an instructor who has only done this procedure one time. There are many variables to this task that are not mentioned. Congratulations on the many views. Call Spectrum Overhead Door for help in Houston, TX (281) 748-9542
Good information...however Gary should have worn safety glasses and explained how many turns are involved to losen and or tighten the springs. There are 7-1/2 full turns or 28 quarter turns on each spring.
this guy is an idiot...whats with the wood on the top section? looks like he should have went with the whole door. He forgot to mention u cant just use any old spring and that there is a certain number of turns u have to put on. And if you pay around 200 dollars for both installed that is a fair price, in this video those springs are probably 100 dollars. So to pay some one a 100 bucks for labor on both springs is a good price.
Can anyone tell me why the government hasn't banned these springs if they are so deadly? I mean yes its dangerous work, but so is mowing the lawn or using a skill saw. Seems like everyone and there cousin has a business installing these doors and gouging the hell out of people.
@carter102 cause trust me they are way better than the alternive methods and also they are only deadly if a don't know what the hell you are doing. Its like saying better stop using eletricity....
Your pricing for Vancouver,BC is out of wack though.
We change two springs on a door for $224.00 taxes and labour included.No messing around identifying the correct parts,ordering and working through any variables.
You're awesome man! Thank you so much for doing this and sharing the experience with the rest of the world. You've removed my fears of doing this job.
caution is advised when changing springs, however if hiring someone do beware of unlicensed contractors trying to sell you a job for springs, a lot of them go where the real contractors dump the old springs and some of the unlicensed guys install the used but complete springs. We service the inland empire in california and only charge a flat rate fee of $120.00 per pair and $99 for a single spring regardless of size this includes labor. Our number is 951-782-8078 we are licensed.
Got mine fixed for 270 bucks. I think it's worth it if you want to save time.
The only thing I'm not too happy about is the company misled me by quoting me for one spring, knowing that they always need to replace both. They should've quoted me for both springs. Had they done that, I would've shop around more. So, make sure they quote you for both springs.
haha if yall are paying 500-700 bucks ur crazy i have been in the bussiness 15 years and i only charge 150-225 depending on the spring size and most cases the bearings and drums and shaft are in good shape i see very few bearing worn out after years of ups and downs so i wish i could charger 500-700 if i did i would not have a business haha and btw about the low heard room if u a good door man the can be wound up like a normal appl.. and rember always use cold rolled steel bars good luck
haha if yall are paying 500-700 bucks ur crazy i have been in the bussiness 15 years and i only charge 150-225 depending on the spring size and most cases the bearings and drums and shaft are in good shape i see very few bearing worn out after years of ups and downs so i wish i could charger 500-700 if i did i would not have a business haha and btw about the low heard room if u a good door man the can be wound up like a normal appl.. and rember always use cold rolled steel bars good luck
Respond to this video... this guys is a douchebag and will see how helpful this is when some dumbass kills himself. I laugh at all you cheap fu#ks that won't spend the money to fix your spring by a professional and for the guy that hurts himself or even dies hope it was worth the couple hundred bucks.
Barney? No.... Scooby doo? uhhh no... Sesame street? Nope... My 3 year old son wants to watch this and other videos about garage doors. At this rate I will have to have a garage door on his birthday cake. If he wasn't asking so many technical questions I would be really worried.
The spring must have at least 28 turns (1/4 at a time) in order to make sure the cable doesn't create slack on the drum. This would cause the cable to become tangled over the drum. I think after 28 cranks, it's all about lift because at that point the cable should be tight on the drum....
BTW: think about the physics, my door is 7 ft. and my cable drum is 4 inches (pretty standard, but you should measure your own). The drum picks-up 3 inches of cable for every quarter turn or, 1 foot of cable for every full turn of the cable drum (4 turns). So 7 x 4 means....
I did the fix today it about an hour. My first attempt had too much torsion as my door keep up to the half way point. I let off 2 quarter turns and it was just right (stoped half way and held at the top). Just play with the trosion 1 to 2 turns up or down until it's just right. Thanks, Dunbar
I did the fix today it about an hour. My first attempt had too much torsion as my door keep up to the half way point. I let off 2 quarter turns and it was just right (stoped half way and held at the top). Just play with the trosion 1 to 2 turns up or down until it's just right.
Just be mindful of your hands and which winding bar you need to remove (this is a good time to not have kids, wife, etc. in the garage as you need to focus on what you're doing..plus, you need to count the turns;-)
When winding, make sure to keep hold of the winding bars, but you can take a break if you get tired by resting the bar on the top of the door. Just take it slow and it will work out OK.
I also used a sharpy to make a line on the rode when it was fully inserted into the spring. It allowed me to ensure the winding bar was completely inserted when winding (Gary uses tape, but it's the same methodology).
I ordered my springs from ebay ($89.99 with included shipping), but they did not come with the winding bars. Do not pay extra for these on ebay. I used a 1/2 inch x 3 feet metal rode purchased at Lowes and cut it in half. It's the exact same items they send you, but for only $6 bucks.
Plus, one of my cable disc would not slide off one end, so I was able to slide the entire assembly off the another side (as with gary's video). I did find it very helpful to have a file handy to remove the metal left from the old screws. Plus I used the WD40 to help things slide along.
Gary's video provides a laymans view of how it's done (thanks Gary for taking the time to make your video...you make it easy for us fellow home owners!). On the actual video, Gary uses a vise grip in the center. Some (as with mine) center anchors are open in the front so the vise grip doesn't allow the pole to slide forward when removing the tension from the springs and cable disc
If you are somewhat handy, this is an pretty easy fix. I first reviewed Gary's video as my spring broke last week. I was apprehensive at first as the web is filled with, "this may cause death or serious injury" type messages.
If you are somewhat handy, this is an pretty easy fix. I first reviewed Gary's video as my spring broke last week. I was apprehensive at first as the web is filled with, "this may cause death or serious injury" type messages.
if we want to charge 550-750 we can, you get price quotes if the customer agrees to the price then its not being a shark doorsbydavid ,, i bet you sell your roller sets for 85-110 when you should sell them for 210-265..plus this guy should have replaced the drums,cables,and tube when he did the spring change
I just wanted to say that I'm a garage door mechanic and that this video is wrong and should not listen or watch this because u can get seriously hurt or killed by listening to this video or u could damage ur door further
Gary, I have been an overhead door technician for 13 years. You should be more careful with this kind of video, as you have omitted some crucial steps/details concerning this type of job.
1. I did not hear you mention the importance of selecting the correct size spring(s) for this job... For each 20lbs (give or take) of total door weight, there will be a different spring combination used. (cont-)
Considering the huge variety in door sizes, materials, and hardware configuration; there are dozens of different spring combinations for residential garage doors. You did mention the correct winding for a 7' tall door. But it is important to note than anything less than 28 quarter turns on each spring WILL result in slack on the cable at the top of the door cycle, and subsequently a "racked door", as we say in the industry. (cont-)
(This is when a cable slips off of a drum and allows the door to fall completely on one side, with the springs pulling full tension on the other side/cable... big mess. Selecting the correct spring combo is crucial. And it should be noted that since the door shown in this video has been modified with 5-2X4's spanning the length of the door (presumably 16' in length, which is standard), your door is not likely going to use the same sized springs that were removed to balance it correctly. (cont-)
2. You mentioned that the spring with the red cone goes on the left (inside facing), and the black one goes on the right side. You noted the importance of not installing them backwards. Kudos. However, this is not always the correct layout. (cont-)
About 20% of residential (torsion spring) doors have an alternative spring configuration. For example: most low head-room doors will use what is referred to as "reverse torsion" or a "rear torsion" configuration. Basically, the black spring does not always go on the right side. It is the most common layout, but you should note that is not always the case. (cont-)
3. You said that you changed the cables on the door. And you marked the drum/torsion shaft. There are different schools of thought on this but I would argue that it is not necessary (in fact detrimental in some cases), to attempt to put the drum back in the exact same spot that was used before. (cont-)
But more importantly; if you changed the cables, the drum WILL NOT line back up to the marks you put on the drums/shaft, unless the cable is the EXACT length as the one you removed. I assume that you figured that out on your own, since you did not show this step in your video. Ultimately, the method you describe for setting the cables and drums is going to cause more problems than anything else. (cont-)
4. You didn't say anything about checking the condition of the end bearings, rollers, drums, and hinges, etc. Bad bearings in your rollers and end plates will strain your operator and cost you more money in the long run if you don't replace them. (cont-)
Moreover, they can cause frays in your cables and damage to your hinges and other hardware if they are not attended to. Also, the only SAFE way to replace end-bearing plates, drums, and/or cables is when the springs are released from their tension. Therefore, it is very important to check them while your doing the springs. And by the way; your rollers and end bearings are shot, (I can hear them). (cont-)
I noticed alot of you commenting about the "appropriate price" for this type of repair. It's simple really. If you are not a professional door repair technician, your comments are based on ignorance. (cont-)
As I mentioned in my above posts, there are many, many variables that go into a "spring repair". Also, just like any other industry, there is a wide range of QUALITY when it comes to torsion springs and any other piece of door hardware. Each spring comes from the factory with a "cycle rating". This rating is determined by the quality of the steel, (the forging/tempering processes etc.). This rating is going to greatly affect the cost of the spring. (cont-)
Not to mention, plastic center bearings like the one used in this video as opposed to high quality steel/rolling bearings, and many other parts with different specs/tolerances that influence cost to the homeowner. So when someone comments that you got ripped off because you paid $500-$700, consider these things before you pass judgment.
There are lots of rip-offs out there to be sure. But much of the time, you get what you pay for. And if you want a long lasting, quality repair... expect to pay more than you would for a cheap fix that is going to cost you more money down the line.
I understand professionals charging for this, honestly I do. But I don't understand the extreme warnings of injury or death. Yes you can get hurt, I suppose you could be injured severely enough to die. Would I tell my mom to do this? No. Was this hard? No. Stay away from the busniess end of the springs, take precautions and save yourself a couple hundred dollars.
thank you for posting this...I just changed the torsion springs on my garage door... I followed your instruction step by step. you just saved me 300.00 bucks.
You never pull both springs off one side, and what the hell does he hit the end of the cone with the hammer for, he is trying to stretch the sping out so it wont make a buckling noise, all you do is hit the spring with your wind up bars, he could crack the cone when hitting the bar with a hammer, definetly dont ever do that. It looks like he ordered the wrong spring, it pops up off the ground, and just by taking 1/4 turn off each
How much would your firm charge to replace the torsion springs for a job like the one shown in the video? For example, could I save $500 by doing it myself?
Hey, thanks Gary for the upload. they are alot of sharks in this industry charging 550-750 for a job like this, My spring jobs like this locally are 189-225 depending on life cycles of springs used. but i try to work with my customers on a solution to serve them as they keep me in business, as we know we need satisfied customers to continue our journey.
@DoorsByDavid - A big thank you to David. Gave him a call, but he works the other side of Atlanta, he referred me to a someone in my area he knows that charges similiar prices. Just to let everyone know Atlanta's Choice Overhead Garage Door Co quoted $140 labor, and $139 for each spring. I had just priced springs at $36 mail order (2" ID, 0.25", 26" or 106 coils).
@DoorsByDavid Guys that rip people for those prices ought to be hung by their nuts. I charge around $240 but I almost always bump the spring one or two wire sizes. I hope your business is not as dead as mine. At least I am working around the house. hahaha
I appreciate you posting this, it gave me insite on my DIY garage spring that broke. I repaired it myself $48 for the spring and $15 dollars for shipping if I had a repair person do it $278.42
Word of caution..NEVER NEVER NEVER let go of the winding bar when it has tension on it.. I have see guys let the bar rest against the door while they are resting. If the spring happens to break while you arent holding it, the winding bar will fly and hit your car or possibly kill you. Never stand in front of the winding bar when putting on or taking the tension off. I know, i have had it nappen to me over the 25 yrs i have done it.
@MrAlexBishop because maybe their garage door torsion springs broke? and if don't know how to do it right, then you can get seriously injured... not all of us are kids that have their fathers do everything
my dad culdnt fix a garage wt u call it torsion? if his life depended on it yet he didnt think u know wt i culd do i culd look it up on youtube no he just called the guy whos job it is to fix it so dont get all uppity with me u sad fuck
You guys act like this is brain surgery or something, it's really not that tough if you have any mechanical skills at all. Besides, it's a nice way to thin the herd!!
Those oil dipped carbon springs are junk i wouldnt put them on my door. I have talked to lots of people who thought they could do it themselves but they either ended hurting themselves badly or making the problem even worse ( burning up openers, braking cables etc).
Dont be a cheap ass and pay a pro to do it right the first time. You also cant put any old spring on the door its specific to the weight of your current door.
lol im a 'pro' .normally i work with industrialdoors /and megadoor.
I advice everyone who think he is handy, picup you phone and call the installer of your door. greatings from CRAWFORD Holland. (leading the world in industrialdoors)
dude take this video of the net. You are ruining our business, and you don't even know that much. Only trainned technician should work on the loaded springs .You are going to get someone hurt.
Churbitser1 - Andresoccer1 ur an idiot. For one it does not take a trained tech to do this. If you're one of the people that do your own oil changes you can certainly do this. I did this entire replacement in an hour, very simple. Yes you need to be cautious and careful but that goes with any do-it-yourself project. Go find another line of work Andre, i certainly wouldn't hire you with that attitude.
@andresoccer1. Dude, your an idiot, this is very easy to do. Go find another line of work Andre if you think only u so called "professionals" can do this.
I raise my door to full height and then some (they always go a little higher with help). This releases just about all the tension and makes this job much easier. After the install I pre-load the springs just a turn or two and voila just about perfect tension. BTW I use locking pliers on the channel to hold the door in place while I do this.
garagesandmore, keep the name calling for your customers, small businesses like yours are good for the economy, and yes, i live in a good area, so contractors seem to charge a bit more, but come on, every diy job can have some danger.
i have replaced thousands of springs and the most ever charged for two residential springs on one door was $186 after tax and I warranty it for a year. this may seem easy, but i know several 30 year veterans and "DIY MASTERS" with horror stories of breaking fingers and even losing them. Is it worth saving a hundred bucks? no one should be charging $300 for this when it only takes one half of an hour.
I agree, if you get 3 stiches it will cost you 5 times the amount of calling a professional. And that's if your lucky to only get a minor injury. You could die, no joke. All that needs to happen is for a certain bolt to be loose in the wrong place and its over
i've replaced several springs before but ran into a problem recently. your suggestion to stretch the springs an extra 1/4" and make the door balance with 30+ turns was great! $45 and too much time and the door is working great! thanks again !!!!!
Great Video. I was quoted a price of $300 to replace both springs. Looked up video on you tube, ordered on ebay, and saved $220. Although there is some risk, my son and I replaced both springs in 45 minutes. might start my own business, its so easy
Thank you for posting this video. I just finish replacing my torsion springs yesterday and was able to do it safely. Garage door works great now. Saved me $250
Thank you for this video! I got my springs locally - $90 for the pair & went to Home Depot and bought 2 - 2' by 3/8" rerod bars.
I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE - I do consider myself pretty handy and I had this done start to finish in an hour. Easy, peasey, japanesey. However if you do not do home repairs then just don't jump into this.
You saved me from throwing away an extra $100 and the embarassment of hiring somebody to do this. THANKS AGAIN!!!! C'mon - don't be THAT guy!
Thanks for posting your video, it helped, watching the steps you took to do the job. And with the right tools I went out there with safety in mind, and did the job myself, in a little over a hour. Thanks for helping me install 2 new springs, and not hiring someone. The door works perfect ! thanks again
This is not a job for DIY! I have worked in the industry for years. 30'x30' doors and garage doors. Too dangerous for untrained people. Please seek pro help!
I have been in the garage door industry for 33 years. i charge $185 to replace both springs on a average 16x7 door. I can do this job in 15 minutes on average.
I have personally and literally on three different occasions stood in another mans blood while repairing a door. A door perviously worked on by the homeowner that was in the emergency room being stitched up while I finished his do-it-yourself project.
The reason he got his springs from E-Bay is because a reputable business wont sell them to you w/o a contractors liscence.
I've been doing this five years now and have also had to repair a door that a diy homeowner attempted to repair. The set screw split his hand in half. 3:40
If you know what your doing it's easy, if you ahvent been trained, get a pro, it's worth the price.
PLEASE READ THIS. I saw this and read up on it but unfortuantely could not find a spring for sale locally and my car was trapped in the garage so i had to get some one to come out. 220 dollars and I knew what he was doing before he did it...I even told him what size spring to use. Don't doubt yourself...it really IS this easy.
I had a prolem with my garage door about a year ago and it cost me over $300.00 to repair. I just fixed my door today by myself with the help of this video. I replaced both safety cables and tightened the springs. It worked perfect. If you need the bars to tighten the springs, go to Home Depot and get a 1/2 " round piece of steel and had it cut into 16" lengths. It worked perfect for $7.00. Ask them to cut it for you. They have a machine that cuts galvanized and it cut this perfectly.
because im doing a project in uni where we are designing one of these. every component, from spring specifications, roller diameter, motor power , garage material and insulation, seals, sensors... basically everything we have to design for an automatic garage door
and i just need something to compare against for our spring calculations, because his door looks around the same width as our design one
With one spring out the door is really heavy - have you tried to lift it manually? I'd say it would ruin your motor if it actually worked and if it failed, it would come down pretty fast and hard. -- Gary
Hello this will be the second time i will be having to change a torsion spring. I was wondering if it is okay to just run the motor at max power and not use the spring at all. It is just a one side door not too heavy and the motor doesn't seem to be straining too much or stalling. it was operating at 5 , i set it to 9 (max) and works fine. Is there any danger of a potential motor burn up or security concerns? (since the motor + spring was holding down the door)
FYI, the spring is holding UP the door to make it lighter, it has no security function other than to make the door easier to open and prevent kids from being crushed.
Yes son, 2x4 serve as a great defense to high winds and even hurricanes. But I'm sure you don't live in a high wind area? I advise my customers all the time to use 2x4's, rather than purchasing our steel struts due to shipping damage. They are equally strong.
as a garage door installer/serviceperson in newzealand i cant be accused of looking after my own interest as this is an american video.WARNING THIS VIDEO DOES NOT CONTAIN ENOUGH SAFTEY ADVISE.1-he does not mention checking if both cables are on or putting a pair of vice grips on tortion pole incase it spins around and winding bars come out and injure you.2-different springs for diff weight doors,AS for being helpful he is probably the one selling springs on ebay as youtube creates good traffic
Yes, always start on the left from the inside looking out to the driveway. After applying tension to left cable, apply locking pliers to torsion tube as leverage against the header frame. Then proceed to the right to apply hand tight tension, tighten drum then move to center to apply tension to springs. Leave Locking Pliers in Position throughout the remainder of installation while turning the torsion springs.
Any one tring to do this with out an experincent tech is an IDIOT!
clemlyjamie 5 days ago
What a beautifully and amazingly presence of knowledge and wisdom.
rmedlin2 1 week ago
i have been installing and repairing doors and motors for over 15yrs..i have had the center bracket come out on me,old springs snap as i took the tension off and had new springs snap as well. good luck to all of you that try it!!!
doorman870 1 month ago
Just make sure you have all the right tools. Don't recommend to everyone.
jdgaragedoorservice 1 month ago
Ghetto+Ghetto=Ghetto Fabulous
BrokenPoetics 1 month ago
All you had to do is u-bolt the spring back together, and re-tighten it. $4.99 and you're done.
BrokenPoetics 1 month ago
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YOU CAN NOT HAVE A "DIY" VIDEO AND TELL PEOPLE " YOU AS A DO IT YOURSELFER SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS"
So many things wrong with this video.
1. Someone who has never done what they are doing should never make a DIY video
2. Never install springs on the left or right just because that's how they are painted, the ends are interchangeable ,someone could have put the wrong colour end on the wrong spring.
chevkrazzy1 2 months ago
3. A spring does not always want to pull down. (what if you have low-head room with you cables mounded outside with your drums reversed?)
4. Do NOT use a hammer to stretch your spring. (the ends are made of cast aluminum.) SO MUCH MORE TO ADD HERE IT IS MAKING MY HEAD HURT !!!!!!
THERE ARE SOME THINGS BETTER LEFT TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRAINED AND KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
chevkrazzy1 2 months ago
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chevkrazzy1 2 months ago
If you slip or the spring breaks are your face and knuckles and time off work injured worth saving $100? If you don't measure right and install the wrong size spring the door will not function properly and it will damage your garage door opener.
Call a Professional
Commonsensedoor 2 months ago
You can also use a 5/16" cable clamp and clamp the broken spring together and re-wind it. I work for a garage door company, and we do that a lot to broken springs so the door will work before we can get back with the right springs.
Gearheadtom 2 months ago
And another, all the "pros" w you didn't say this. You got a 16' board, I hope ya die. Real professional, am sure a bunch of you are real worried about people's safety. With no thought to the nice chunk of $ you loose. When an older gentleman gets up in shorts and casually does something you'd like people to believe is almost certain death, lol. Imo ... he definitely said enough to tip people that there are safety issues and they need to do their own research before attempting this DIY project.
gottaluvUtube1 3 months ago
Appreciate the video. Yep, broken torsion spring. Yep planning on DIY too. OMG ... it's a wonder he survived. He looked like he was sweating bullets and near death several times during this vid. Gimme a break all these bonehead "professionals". Many of us aren't afraid of our own shadows ... nor stupid. So as much as I'm sure you'd like folks to hand ya a few hundred bucks for 30-40mins work. Get over yourself and welcome to the information age, where people can actually share info and learn eh.
gottaluvUtube1 3 months ago
04:00 I used a wrench and it spun hitting my thumb....lol
vincevega0 3 months ago
Gary,
Thanks for posting this video. I can understand why there would be those that would choose to have a professional do this, but for those with mechanical inclination, physical ability, and time, this is a very doable project. After I watched the videos, it took me 45 min to complete, even with a couple of flies in the ointment, and $44 (w/ shipping) on ebay for a high cycle sping.
blakefulk 6 months ago
Thanks gary saved my job when I broke the garage door and didnt have my boss pay for the 700+ repair that a door repair company quoted!
rsdragon14 7 months ago
SAFETY GLASSES
SAFETY GLASSES
SAFETY GLASSES
SAFETY GLASSES
I can't stress this enough !!!!!!!!!!!!
knightriderutube 7 months ago
In the Phoenix area we are your company.
STAPLEY ACTION GARAGE DOOR
480-655-1255
My company in Mesa, Arizona will replace your single spring for $150 and double for $179 on virtually every door. There are some specialty doors that are heavier than normal, but that is the extreme exception. Door weight and height must be accurate or your springs will not lift your door properly. Get it done professionally, get a warranty, get it done fast, and get it done right the first time.
Daedal71 8 months ago
your not to smart are you!!!
doorman870 8 months ago
i have a small repair co. in florida i charage $128 for one and $191 for two. my labor is $65 springs are $63 ea. i also give a 2yr warranty an will come back to your home to lube and adjust your springs and door at no charge
doorman870 8 months ago
This is a great video. Thanks for posting it. You saved me hundreds that I frankly don't have to spend right now. The job was just as easy as you made it look. Anyone that knows what end of a wrench to hold could do this.
VideoWorksSamples 9 months ago
AWESOME VIDEO! Replaced both torsion springs for $75. I Canada, this would have been very expensive hire out. Rate the difficulty at maybe 2.5 (much easier than I expected). You can buy a 36" piece 1/2" steel bar and cut in half for your "winding tools" Home Depot for $8. Trust me, do it yourself. Dont worry about the pro's, there will always be business from those that are unable or unwilling to take tasks like this on themselves. Dont believe the scare tactics.
MrMarcbubba 9 months ago 23
I've replaced many springs for customers with casts on their hands from attempting this. Not only do they hurth themselves but in some cases damage the door even further. Sometimes it's bad enough repairing doors that have been hacked in by "professionals", let alone someone without any experience. This video should just be an 8 minute link to the yellow pages.
TehJones 9 months ago
haha i do this everyday for a living. and its better to pay us around 200 bucks to do it. also whats up with the wood struts he has on this door? the weight ads up.
motoxpaul05 9 months ago
baby springs...
change springs on a commercial sectional
from an extension ladder, favorite part of my job
camobronco351 9 months ago
Lol I changed a torsion spring at my grandmothers house a few years back and the damn bar swung back and hit me off the ladder. Hurt like a mother effer but I was 21 or so and got back up and finished the job. Be very very careful. About to tackle the job again at my mom's house this weekend. Great DIY, thank god for youtube, this will make the steps go much easier.
sdguerrero72 9 months ago
hey mr.do it your self whats the reason for adding 10lbs to your door with putting wood across it to make it more sturdy? glad you through of that when you were replacing your springs because now your going to get less life out of the springs with added weight good job numb nuts hope the winding bar does knock you out as you let go
as for the people who actually take note of this guy do not attempt to do it your-self you can get very hurt an risk spending a lot of money due to failure of this
abreau0 10 months ago
Poor guy doesn't even have a friend to help him film the video.
I guess if you have no friends, and nothing to live for, go for it!
vicdamone96701 11 months ago
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Gary...thanks for this video. Before I saw the video I was not prepared to do the job. But the video was perfect. I completed mine today. 2 springs $150, saved $105 in labor, Total repair time 2 hrs. One of the easiest jobs I have done for DIY (especially after seeing your video). "You Da Man"
csc1635 1 year ago
Gary...thanks for this video. Before I saw the video I was not prepared to do the job. But the video was perfect. I completed mine today. 2 springs $150, saved $105 in labor, Total repair time 2 hrs. One of the easiest jobs I have done for DIY (especially after seeing your video). "You Da Man"
csc1635 1 year ago
Hey thanks Gary - the spring broke on my garage door and your video was very helpful! Spring replaced and door is working again! thanks
cadekar 1 year ago
Good video. BUT, this is probably one of the most dangerous DIY jobs one can attempt. You mentioned marking/taping your bars. These MUST be fully engaged in the hole when winding on the pressure. Use STEEL bars. Not "rebar", big screwdrivers, copper pipe, etc. I wear goggles and heavy gloves when I wind. Take your time. Get solid on the ladder. Use an open end wrench instead of box end or socket/ratchet. When releasing the tension keep a bar on it. A real old spring might not release easily.
boflexboy 1 year ago
Just wanted to confirm just how danger these springs are. I was trying to stablize a very unsafe-looking spring last night without know anything about garage doors (it didn't seem like it'd be too complicated). As I was working on it the tension suddenly broke free. It tore a hole in the ceiling, shattered a 2"x8" board into pieces like it was tissue paper, and tore a hole in my hand barely missing my head. Believe me these things are dangerous. I'm lucky to be alive.
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MrMarcbubba 9 months ago
There are a lot of companies out there charging up to half of the cost of an ENTIRELY NEW garage door to change two springs. Most of these DIY videos are horrible; at least this one teaches you how to do it safely, if not entirely properly.
If you are in the Naples, Marco Island, Bonita Springs, FL region; I would recommend calling A. Faust Garage Door Services, LLC. For what you will pay for new springs and shipping on the internet. We will fix it. (239)591-4229 or just GOOGLE A. Faust Garage
Omniscientpooh 1 year ago
@MelvinTheDestroyer my disability was due to my boss forcing me to service your mothers rank ass pussy without providing my with the appropriate safety equipment you should be able to understand where I'm coming from, your whole body slid through that fecal lined cum bucket....
frankt04 1 year ago
Hey Gary, Terrific video to say the least. Listen, I am having trouble with my garage door drum, do I need to unwind the spring to work on the drum?
Also it is kinda weird that all the professionals are complaining about your video, yet they leave their info on your site to get business. lol
cigamlooc 1 year ago
whered you get them from more specifically and how much were they?
sticksbass 1 year ago
"Wait a minute. We've gotta talk about this!!" LMAO
fussgood 1 year ago
Its funny when he says as a do it yourselfer shouldn't be doing this? Ok, first who is he? And why is he making this video? Cause I can bet he's not the professional... Just sayin atleast edit ur video or pick some different choice of words....
bronc82003 1 year ago
@bronc82003 Gary is just adding that disclaimer at the beginning of his diy vid to prevent those that would sue should they try this job and subsequently spill their coffee and burn their leg (or some other variation of that theme). This is a great video from a diy'er to others of the same mind-set. I can use the money I saved to attend a NHL hockey game and watch the Vancouver Canucks embarass the Chicago Blackhawks.... :)
MrMarcbubba 9 months ago 3
There are many variables to garage doors. It took 2yrs of 10-14hr days 6 days a week b4 I was cocky enough to think I knew it all. Then I really learned, broken bones, stitches,back and abdominal herniations. In 15yrs I'm now disabled from the industry. Ever seen an old man as a svc tec???
frankt04 1 year ago
@frankt04 - Holy shit, Frank, you sound too stupid to realize you're too stupid to have been doing the job! Is your disability related to mental health??
MelvinTheDestroyer 1 year ago
Caution not mentioned!!!! If your drums are on the outside of the track the spring will turn up towards the ceiling for this setup. If your focused on it turning down you will unknowingly allow the winding bar to come out of the cone resulting is sever damage to your hand!!!
frankt04 1 year ago
Jeez i did this and I'm a woman. Wore my husband's hockey helmet, a mouthguard and his safety glasses. Cause you know...a girl has to be prepared.
TheChlomyster 1 year ago
Gary, You have done a pretty good job for it being your first time. I am a professional, and I can't tell you how many times my customers have referenced your video before calling for service. DIY-ers should be cautioned though, about following instructions too closely from an instructor who has only done this procedure one time. There are many variables to this task that are not mentioned. Congratulations on the many views. Call Spectrum Overhead Door for help in Houston, TX (281) 748-9542
SpectrumOverheadDoor 1 year ago
i would bust a nut if that unloaded on him
rfphm 1 year ago
Cool Mr Davis, like it.
garagedoorsking 1 year ago
Good information...however Gary should have worn safety glasses and explained how many turns are involved to losen and or tighten the springs. There are 7-1/2 full turns or 28 quarter turns on each spring.
6stringwood 1 year ago
@6stringwood not always. 7-1/2 turns is actually 30 quarter turns. and is it a smaller 8x7 it wil some times have 8 to 8.5 full turns.
bigbwd 1 year ago
this guy is an idiot...whats with the wood on the top section? looks like he should have went with the whole door. He forgot to mention u cant just use any old spring and that there is a certain number of turns u have to put on. And if you pay around 200 dollars for both installed that is a fair price, in this video those springs are probably 100 dollars. So to pay some one a 100 bucks for labor on both springs is a good price.
5Rosey 1 year ago
hi my name is jose thank you for helping me
TheCesar1171 1 year ago
Can anyone tell me why the government hasn't banned these springs if they are so deadly? I mean yes its dangerous work, but so is mowing the lawn or using a skill saw. Seems like everyone and there cousin has a business installing these doors and gouging the hell out of people.
carter102 1 year ago
@carter102 cause trust me they are way better than the alternive methods and also they are only deadly if a don't know what the hell you are doing. Its like saying better stop using eletricity....
bronc82003 1 year ago
Seems like a straightforward enough job.
Your pricing for Vancouver,BC is out of wack though.
We change two springs on a door for $224.00 taxes and labour included.No messing around identifying the correct parts,ordering and working through any variables.
Dave
Apex Door Service
604-420-3288
The Height of Service
Coquitlam,British Columbia
Canada
apexdoorservice 1 year ago
You're awesome man! Thank you so much for doing this and sharing the experience with the rest of the world. You've removed my fears of doing this job.
RepublicanDumbAss 1 year ago
caution is advised when changing springs, however if hiring someone do beware of unlicensed contractors trying to sell you a job for springs, a lot of them go where the real contractors dump the old springs and some of the unlicensed guys install the used but complete springs. We service the inland empire in california and only charge a flat rate fee of $120.00 per pair and $99 for a single spring regardless of size this includes labor. Our number is 951-782-8078 we are licensed.
lachilipepper 1 year ago
Got mine fixed for 270 bucks. I think it's worth it if you want to save time.
The only thing I'm not too happy about is the company misled me by quoting me for one spring, knowing that they always need to replace both. They should've quoted me for both springs. Had they done that, I would've shop around more. So, make sure they quote you for both springs.
dsuratman 1 year ago
if you live in perth australia im garage door fitter repairs anything to do with garage doors call 0424281218 thanx
louay555 1 year ago
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haha if yall are paying 500-700 bucks ur crazy i have been in the bussiness 15 years and i only charge 150-225 depending on the spring size and most cases the bearings and drums and shaft are in good shape i see very few bearing worn out after years of ups and downs so i wish i could charger 500-700 if i did i would not have a business haha and btw about the low heard room if u a good door man the can be wound up like a normal appl.. and rember always use cold rolled steel bars good luck
jwa29p 1 year ago
haha if yall are paying 500-700 bucks ur crazy i have been in the bussiness 15 years and i only charge 150-225 depending on the spring size and most cases the bearings and drums and shaft are in good shape i see very few bearing worn out after years of ups and downs so i wish i could charger 500-700 if i did i would not have a business haha and btw about the low heard room if u a good door man the can be wound up like a normal appl.. and rember always use cold rolled steel bars good luck
jwa29p 1 year ago
"you, as a do it yourselfer, shoulld not be doing this"
SkunkInABox 1 year ago
you as a do it yourselfer should be doing this. Very easy. I did the complete thing in an hour.
Churbitser 1 year ago
Respond to this video... this guys is a douchebag and will see how helpful this is when some dumbass kills himself. I laugh at all you cheap fu#ks that won't spend the money to fix your spring by a professional and for the guy that hurts himself or even dies hope it was worth the couple hundred bucks.
vall4224 1 year ago
Barney? No.... Scooby doo? uhhh no... Sesame street? Nope... My 3 year old son wants to watch this and other videos about garage doors. At this rate I will have to have a garage door on his birthday cake. If he wasn't asking so many technical questions I would be really worried.
forcefollow 1 year ago
The spring must have at least 28 turns (1/4 at a time) in order to make sure the cable doesn't create slack on the drum. This would cause the cable to become tangled over the drum. I think after 28 cranks, it's all about lift because at that point the cable should be tight on the drum....
rug10107 1 year ago
BTW: think about the physics, my door is 7 ft. and my cable drum is 4 inches (pretty standard, but you should measure your own). The drum picks-up 3 inches of cable for every quarter turn or, 1 foot of cable for every full turn of the cable drum (4 turns). So 7 x 4 means....
rug10107 1 year ago
Also view the happro video...very helpful!
rug10107 1 year ago
start at the bottom of my post...sorry..new to posting.
rug10107 1 year ago
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I did the fix today it about an hour. My first attempt had too much torsion as my door keep up to the half way point. I let off 2 quarter turns and it was just right (stoped half way and held at the top). Just play with the trosion 1 to 2 turns up or down until it's just right. Thanks, Dunbar
rug10107 1 year ago
I did the fix today it about an hour. My first attempt had too much torsion as my door keep up to the half way point. I let off 2 quarter turns and it was just right (stoped half way and held at the top). Just play with the trosion 1 to 2 turns up or down until it's just right.
rug10107 1 year ago
Just be mindful of your hands and which winding bar you need to remove (this is a good time to not have kids, wife, etc. in the garage as you need to focus on what you're doing..plus, you need to count the turns;-)
rug10107 1 year ago
When winding, make sure to keep hold of the winding bars, but you can take a break if you get tired by resting the bar on the top of the door. Just take it slow and it will work out OK.
rug10107 1 year ago
I also used a sharpy to make a line on the rode when it was fully inserted into the spring. It allowed me to ensure the winding bar was completely inserted when winding (Gary uses tape, but it's the same methodology).
rug10107 1 year ago
I ordered my springs from ebay ($89.99 with included shipping), but they did not come with the winding bars. Do not pay extra for these on ebay. I used a 1/2 inch x 3 feet metal rode purchased at Lowes and cut it in half. It's the exact same items they send you, but for only $6 bucks.
rug10107 1 year ago
Plus, one of my cable disc would not slide off one end, so I was able to slide the entire assembly off the another side (as with gary's video). I did find it very helpful to have a file handy to remove the metal left from the old screws. Plus I used the WD40 to help things slide along.
rug10107 1 year ago
Gary's video provides a laymans view of how it's done (thanks Gary for taking the time to make your video...you make it easy for us fellow home owners!). On the actual video, Gary uses a vise grip in the center. Some (as with mine) center anchors are open in the front so the vise grip doesn't allow the pole to slide forward when removing the tension from the springs and cable disc
rug10107 1 year ago
Dear All DIY'ers:
If you are somewhat handy, this is an pretty easy fix. I first reviewed Gary's video as my spring broke last week. I was apprehensive at first as the web is filled with, "this may cause death or serious injury" type messages.
rug10107 1 year ago
Dear All DIY'ers:
If you are somewhat handy, this is an pretty easy fix. I first reviewed Gary's video as my spring broke last week. I was apprehensive at first as the web is filled with, "this may cause death or serious injury" type messages.
rug10107 1 year ago
if we want to charge 550-750 we can, you get price quotes if the customer agrees to the price then its not being a shark doorsbydavid ,, i bet you sell your roller sets for 85-110 when you should sell them for 210-265..plus this guy should have replaced the drums,cables,and tube when he did the spring change
SuperiorDoorCompany 1 year ago
Spring replacement is 30 minutes or less LOL...Not recommended for a rookie!!
Sean19419N 1 year ago
I just wanted to say that I'm a garage door mechanic and that this video is wrong and should not listen or watch this because u can get seriously hurt or killed by listening to this video or u could damage ur door further
LAYOUTMAN05 1 year ago
gary...that is awsome, I will be replacing mine now that I watched your video
ledhed61 1 year ago
Thank you for the video. I just replaced the torsion springs in my garage.
cramirez11 1 year ago
Gary, I have been an overhead door technician for 13 years. You should be more careful with this kind of video, as you have omitted some crucial steps/details concerning this type of job.
1. I did not hear you mention the importance of selecting the correct size spring(s) for this job... For each 20lbs (give or take) of total door weight, there will be a different spring combination used. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
Considering the huge variety in door sizes, materials, and hardware configuration; there are dozens of different spring combinations for residential garage doors. You did mention the correct winding for a 7' tall door. But it is important to note than anything less than 28 quarter turns on each spring WILL result in slack on the cable at the top of the door cycle, and subsequently a "racked door", as we say in the industry. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
(This is when a cable slips off of a drum and allows the door to fall completely on one side, with the springs pulling full tension on the other side/cable... big mess. Selecting the correct spring combo is crucial. And it should be noted that since the door shown in this video has been modified with 5-2X4's spanning the length of the door (presumably 16' in length, which is standard), your door is not likely going to use the same sized springs that were removed to balance it correctly. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
2. You mentioned that the spring with the red cone goes on the left (inside facing), and the black one goes on the right side. You noted the importance of not installing them backwards. Kudos. However, this is not always the correct layout. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
About 20% of residential (torsion spring) doors have an alternative spring configuration. For example: most low head-room doors will use what is referred to as "reverse torsion" or a "rear torsion" configuration. Basically, the black spring does not always go on the right side. It is the most common layout, but you should note that is not always the case. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
3. You said that you changed the cables on the door. And you marked the drum/torsion shaft. There are different schools of thought on this but I would argue that it is not necessary (in fact detrimental in some cases), to attempt to put the drum back in the exact same spot that was used before. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
But more importantly; if you changed the cables, the drum WILL NOT line back up to the marks you put on the drums/shaft, unless the cable is the EXACT length as the one you removed. I assume that you figured that out on your own, since you did not show this step in your video. Ultimately, the method you describe for setting the cables and drums is going to cause more problems than anything else. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
4. You didn't say anything about checking the condition of the end bearings, rollers, drums, and hinges, etc. Bad bearings in your rollers and end plates will strain your operator and cost you more money in the long run if you don't replace them. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
Moreover, they can cause frays in your cables and damage to your hinges and other hardware if they are not attended to. Also, the only SAFE way to replace end-bearing plates, drums, and/or cables is when the springs are released from their tension. Therefore, it is very important to check them while your doing the springs. And by the way; your rollers and end bearings are shot, (I can hear them). (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
I noticed alot of you commenting about the "appropriate price" for this type of repair. It's simple really. If you are not a professional door repair technician, your comments are based on ignorance. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
As I mentioned in my above posts, there are many, many variables that go into a "spring repair". Also, just like any other industry, there is a wide range of QUALITY when it comes to torsion springs and any other piece of door hardware. Each spring comes from the factory with a "cycle rating". This rating is determined by the quality of the steel, (the forging/tempering processes etc.). This rating is going to greatly affect the cost of the spring. (cont-)
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
Not to mention, plastic center bearings like the one used in this video as opposed to high quality steel/rolling bearings, and many other parts with different specs/tolerances that influence cost to the homeowner. So when someone comments that you got ripped off because you paid $500-$700, consider these things before you pass judgment.
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
There are lots of rip-offs out there to be sure. But much of the time, you get what you pay for. And if you want a long lasting, quality repair... expect to pay more than you would for a cheap fix that is going to cost you more money down the line.
Good luck.
TheWanderingMoon 1 year ago
I understand professionals charging for this, honestly I do. But I don't understand the extreme warnings of injury or death. Yes you can get hurt, I suppose you could be injured severely enough to die. Would I tell my mom to do this? No. Was this hard? No. Stay away from the busniess end of the springs, take precautions and save yourself a couple hundred dollars.
MrBeckett74 1 year ago
thank you for posting this...I just changed the torsion springs on my garage door... I followed your instruction step by step. you just saved me 300.00 bucks.
hendep 1 year ago
You never pull both springs off one side, and what the hell does he hit the end of the cone with the hammer for, he is trying to stretch the sping out so it wont make a buckling noise, all you do is hit the spring with your wind up bars, he could crack the cone when hitting the bar with a hammer, definetly dont ever do that. It looks like he ordered the wrong spring, it pops up off the ground, and just by taking 1/4 turn off each
bueybuey01 1 year ago
In Atlanta Georgia Area?
Call A Pro. DoorsByDavid
Since 2001
678-618-2275 Atlanta Georgia Surrounding areas. Thanks For the video's Diy'ers becarefull.
DoorsByDavid 1 year ago
DoorsByDavid,
How much would your firm charge to replace the torsion springs for a job like the one shown in the video? For example, could I save $500 by doing it myself?
Thanks - Gary
garyadavis 1 year ago
Hey, thanks Gary for the upload. they are alot of sharks in this industry charging 550-750 for a job like this, My spring jobs like this locally are 189-225 depending on life cycles of springs used. but i try to work with my customers on a solution to serve them as they keep me in business, as we know we need satisfied customers to continue our journey.
DoorsByDavid 1 year ago
@DoorsByDavid Thanks for the info, David.
garyadavis 1 year ago
@DoorsByDavid - A big thank you to David. Gave him a call, but he works the other side of Atlanta, he referred me to a someone in my area he knows that charges similiar prices. Just to let everyone know Atlanta's Choice Overhead Garage Door Co quoted $140 labor, and $139 for each spring. I had just priced springs at $36 mail order (2" ID, 0.25", 26" or 106 coils).
kevinb70 1 year ago
@DoorsByDavid Guys that rip people for those prices ought to be hung by their nuts. I charge around $240 but I almost always bump the spring one or two wire sizes. I hope your business is not as dead as mine. At least I am working around the house. hahaha
madisonelectronic 9 months ago
@DoorsByDavid Thanks a lot Gary! I fixed mine for $70, great video and a good workout for me as well.
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tctopcat1234 1 year ago
Thanks for posting your information, tctopcat1234. Do you have any comments on my video?
How much would your firm charge to replace the springs for a job like the one shown in the video?
Thanks - Gary
garyadavis 1 year ago
I appreciate you posting this, it gave me insite on my DIY garage spring that broke. I repaired it myself $48 for the spring and $15 dollars for shipping if I had a repair person do it $278.42
Bigback334 1 year ago
Word of caution..NEVER NEVER NEVER let go of the winding bar when it has tension on it.. I have see guys let the bar rest against the door while they are resting. If the spring happens to break while you arent holding it, the winding bar will fly and hit your car or possibly kill you. Never stand in front of the winding bar when putting on or taking the tension off. I know, i have had it nappen to me over the 25 yrs i have done it.
MiaBellaGSD 1 year ago
thx !!!
adampope64 2 years ago
Thank you sir for posting.
maui7000 2 years ago
Its funny how a guy tries to help by posting a vid, and all you jack asses have to make your fugged up comments.
It doesn't look hard but I enjoyed watching the vid just so I dont have to read the instructions! Thanks for taking the time to post it!
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BudgetGarageDoor 2 years ago
why does this video have 88167 views do u people have no life i only saw this looking up garage music
MrAlexBishop 2 years ago
@MrAlexBishop because maybe their garage door torsion springs broke? and if don't know how to do it right, then you can get seriously injured... not all of us are kids that have their fathers do everything
prak18 2 years ago
my dad culdnt fix a garage wt u call it torsion? if his life depended on it yet he didnt think u know wt i culd do i culd look it up on youtube no he just called the guy whos job it is to fix it so dont get all uppity with me u sad fuck
MrAlexBishop 2 years ago
"u as a do it urself, dont do it urself" lol
4bmw6 2 years ago
"I've never done this before, and this is my first DIY clinic." Gotta love it!
jimini34 2 years ago
You guys act like this is brain surgery or something, it's really not that tough if you have any mechanical skills at all. Besides, it's a nice way to thin the herd!!
joelstein64 2 years ago
Those oil dipped carbon springs are junk i wouldnt put them on my door. I have talked to lots of people who thought they could do it themselves but they either ended hurting themselves badly or making the problem even worse ( burning up openers, braking cables etc).
Dont be a cheap ass and pay a pro to do it right the first time. You also cant put any old spring on the door its specific to the weight of your current door.
grayparatrooper 2 years ago
@grayparatrooper
lol im a 'pro' .normally i work with industrialdoors /and megadoor.
I advice everyone who think he is handy, picup you phone and call the installer of your door. greatings from CRAWFORD Holland. (leading the world in industrialdoors)
knallenmetdiehandel 2 years ago
no doubt you dont know jack man
what about low headroom?you go oppisite way
also your wearing shorts,no safety glasses
probably did not up plug the opener dude get real
totally un safe way btw wheres your oil can LOL
MrGdmike 2 years ago
dude take this video of the net. You are ruining our business, and you don't even know that much. Only trainned technician should work on the loaded springs .You are going to get someone hurt.
andresoccer1 2 years ago
@andresoccer1 Shut up ur just jealous >)
C0SM1CG4TE 1 year ago
Churbitser1 - Andresoccer1 ur an idiot. For one it does not take a trained tech to do this. If you're one of the people that do your own oil changes you can certainly do this. I did this entire replacement in an hour, very simple. Yes you need to be cautious and careful but that goes with any do-it-yourself project. Go find another line of work Andre, i certainly wouldn't hire you with that attitude.
Churbitser 1 year ago
@andresoccer1. Dude, your an idiot, this is very easy to do. Go find another line of work Andre if you think only u so called "professionals" can do this.
Churbitser 1 year ago
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bigchevy80 2 years ago
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bigchevy80 2 years ago
I raise my door to full height and then some (they always go a little higher with help). This releases just about all the tension and makes this job much easier. After the install I pre-load the springs just a turn or two and voila just about perfect tension. BTW I use locking pliers on the channel to hold the door in place while I do this.
39knights 2 years ago
garagesandmore, keep the name calling for your customers, small businesses like yours are good for the economy, and yes, i live in a good area, so contractors seem to charge a bit more, but come on, every diy job can have some danger.
rhtriche 2 years ago
i have replaced thousands of springs and the most ever charged for two residential springs on one door was $186 after tax and I warranty it for a year. this may seem easy, but i know several 30 year veterans and "DIY MASTERS" with horror stories of breaking fingers and even losing them. Is it worth saving a hundred bucks? no one should be charging $300 for this when it only takes one half of an hour.
garagesandmore 2 years ago
I agree, if you get 3 stiches it will cost you 5 times the amount of calling a professional. And that's if your lucky to only get a minor injury. You could die, no joke. All that needs to happen is for a certain bolt to be loose in the wrong place and its over
bransonjeep 2 years ago
i've replaced several springs before but ran into a problem recently. your suggestion to stretch the springs an extra 1/4" and make the door balance with 30+ turns was great! $45 and too much time and the door is working great! thanks again !!!!!
captexcitement 2 years ago
thanks
captexcitement 2 years ago
if your winding 30+ turns and the door is only 7 feet high then you need to have a different size sping on your door or it will break again very soon
bransonjeep 2 years ago
Great Video. I was quoted a price of $300 to replace both springs. Looked up video on you tube, ordered on ebay, and saved $220. Although there is some risk, my son and I replaced both springs in 45 minutes. might start my own business, its so easy
rhtriche 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this video. I just finish replacing my torsion springs yesterday and was able to do it safely. Garage door works great now. Saved me $250
12benved 2 years ago
Thank you for this video! I got my springs locally - $90 for the pair & went to Home Depot and bought 2 - 2' by 3/8" rerod bars.
I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE - I do consider myself pretty handy and I had this done start to finish in an hour. Easy, peasey, japanesey. However if you do not do home repairs then just don't jump into this.
You saved me from throwing away an extra $100 and the embarassment of hiring somebody to do this. THANKS AGAIN!!!! C'mon - don't be THAT guy!
raiderskickass420 2 years ago
Very nice - I will be ordering my spring set tomorrow. :)
somegeek 2 years ago
Thanks for posting your video, it helped, watching the steps you took to do the job. And with the right tools I went out there with safety in mind, and did the job myself, in a little over a hour. Thanks for helping me install 2 new springs, and not hiring someone. The door works perfect ! thanks again
ric29777 2 years ago
This is not a job for DIY! I have worked in the industry for years. 30'x30' doors and garage doors. Too dangerous for untrained people. Please seek pro help!
whonut 2 years ago
I have been in the garage door industry for 33 years. i charge $185 to replace both springs on a average 16x7 door. I can do this job in 15 minutes on average.
I have personally and literally on three different occasions stood in another mans blood while repairing a door. A door perviously worked on by the homeowner that was in the emergency room being stitched up while I finished his do-it-yourself project.
RSNelsen 2 years ago 2
Does the $185 include parts?
donnievaz 2 years ago
Yes we furnish and install 2 torsion springs everyday for a set price of $185 materials, labor and taxes COMPLETE :-)
I have hundreds if not thousands of invoices on file for your review.
RSNelsen 2 years ago
The reason he got his springs from E-Bay is because a reputable business wont sell them to you w/o a contractors liscence.
I've been doing this five years now and have also had to repair a door that a diy homeowner attempted to repair. The set screw split his hand in half. 3:40
If you know what your doing it's easy, if you ahvent been trained, get a pro, it's worth the price.
Kaeldron 2 years ago
Got mine done by myself and let me tell ya, it's way too easy. It's safer than setting up a mouse trap. Yes, I am serious. Thanks for these vidz.
gxryd3r 2 years ago
PLEASE READ THIS. I saw this and read up on it but unfortuantely could not find a spring for sale locally and my car was trapped in the garage so i had to get some one to come out. 220 dollars and I knew what he was doing before he did it...I even told him what size spring to use. Don't doubt yourself...it really IS this easy.
zimmy00 2 years ago
"Most DIY end up in the hospital" Yeah, right. Exaggerate much?
Sherlucky 2 years ago 2
I had a prolem with my garage door about a year ago and it cost me over $300.00 to repair. I just fixed my door today by myself with the help of this video. I replaced both safety cables and tightened the springs. It worked perfect. If you need the bars to tighten the springs, go to Home Depot and get a 1/2 " round piece of steel and had it cut into 16" lengths. It worked perfect for $7.00. Ask them to cut it for you. They have a machine that cuts galvanized and it cut this perfectly.
michaelware68 2 years ago
hey can you tell me a few details about your torsion bar,spring..
what is the diameter of your torsion bar?
what is the diameter of your torsion spring?
what is the diameter of your spring wire?
please tell me as soon as you can!
thanks,
mark.
geetarwanabe 2 years ago
why does that matter, each door is different
axoll 2 years ago
because im doing a project in uni where we are designing one of these. every component, from spring specifications, roller diameter, motor power , garage material and insulation, seals, sensors... basically everything we have to design for an automatic garage door
and i just need something to compare against for our spring calculations, because his door looks around the same width as our design one
geetarwanabe 2 years ago
Bars are 7/16, 1,2, 5/8, and rarely 3/4. Wire from (normally) .218 to .312. Remember some wind up and some wind down.
madisonelectronic 2 years ago
With one spring out the door is really heavy - have you tried to lift it manually? I'd say it would ruin your motor if it actually worked and if it failed, it would come down pretty fast and hard. -- Gary
garyadavis 2 years ago
Hello this will be the second time i will be having to change a torsion spring. I was wondering if it is okay to just run the motor at max power and not use the spring at all. It is just a one side door not too heavy and the motor doesn't seem to be straining too much or stalling. it was operating at 5 , i set it to 9 (max) and works fine. Is there any danger of a potential motor burn up or security concerns? (since the motor + spring was holding down the door)
LTF85199 2 years ago
There is always the fact that when the door is coming down if somebody is under it, it's not going to be nearly as easy to stop.
bastian74 2 years ago
I don't think that will be ever an issue.
LTF85199 2 years ago
Well, so long as it never gets closed on somebody. We should hope it's not an issue, the same way I hope not to get maimed in a car accident.
PaulsethVids 2 years ago
FYI, the spring is holding UP the door to make it lighter, it has no security function other than to make the door easier to open and prevent kids from being crushed.
PaulsethVids 2 years ago
I am the only living body in the house, that is why I said that.. :)
LTF85199 2 years ago
si wey no friegues no es tan facil y ademas tus dedos estan en riesgo.... mejor llama a los expertos... macana......!
girome00 2 years ago
all adds up to no teeth,sore fingers and a broken jaw.i would say!
dormandoors 3 years ago
another idiot trying to steal from you. I did it with no problem. Still have my beautiful teeth and jaw.
michaelware68 2 years ago
I lost my right eye doing this....SIKE!
gxryd3r 2 years ago
is that 2x4 strut haha
bayareahogz 3 years ago
Yes son, 2x4 serve as a great defense to high winds and even hurricanes. But I'm sure you don't live in a high wind area? I advise my customers all the time to use 2x4's, rather than purchasing our steel struts due to shipping damage. They are equally strong.
diygaragerepair 2 years ago
call a garage door company if you like to use your fingers
bayareahogz 3 years ago
as a garage door installer/serviceperson in newzealand i cant be accused of looking after my own interest as this is an american video.WARNING THIS VIDEO DOES NOT CONTAIN ENOUGH SAFTEY ADVISE.1-he does not mention checking if both cables are on or putting a pair of vice grips on tortion pole incase it spins around and winding bars come out and injure you.2-different springs for diff weight doors,AS for being helpful he is probably the one selling springs on ebay as youtube creates good traffic
dormandoors 3 years ago
thank you left drum then right drum.
bayareahogz 3 years ago
Yes, always start on the left from the inside looking out to the driveway. After applying tension to left cable, apply locking pliers to torsion tube as leverage against the header frame. Then proceed to the right to apply hand tight tension, tighten drum then move to center to apply tension to springs. Leave Locking Pliers in Position throughout the remainder of installation while turning the torsion springs.
diygaragerepair 2 years ago
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dormandoors 3 years ago
Just fixed my door thanks to your video. (while it was snowing no less). Thx for posting your video.
glutenfreemom 3 years ago