Cathrine Sadolin: Complete Vocal Technique, brief run-throug

[bagmetarch]

Dude i love this Female !!!!! her overdrive technique or the way she sounds is sooo awesome . I sing in a metal band and have a pretty good range in singing but when it comes to screaming or doing overdrives....my voiice does not support it i mean i start sounding hoarse immideately . What can i do for this....? Is there any way i can Contact Ms. Sadolin for help ???? plz let mi know soon ....thanx

[rovingdesertfox]

@bagmetarch Don't push air thru the cords ever. Tighten abs very tightly Check out screaming videos if you must, but realize it is very damaging to your throat/cords. And, your cords are your future. PS: Elizabeth Sabine has written a good book, "Strengthening your singing voice" which is very helpful. she taught many rockers including Ron Keel, Brian Howe, Jizzy Pearl, Stryper, and others.

[hahnyok]

@bagmetarch I seriously recommend the book if you can afford to get it. There is so much insight into so many vocal issues and it's easy to understand. I used to have similar issues, dude..

[fyourcouchnigga]

I wanna see this bitch naked and I wanna rub my cock in her jelly rolls.

[Uruguruh]

Why pretend it's something new?

These are all the usual techniques singing students learn.

[Lea4u2u]

I'm neither convinced of her singing abilities nor of the technique she's talking about. She is a classical singer and they can use their voices in a way other people just can't do because they didn't have such a special training! Be careful - the voice is delicate and even if it isn't damaged very quickly - never forget that there are muscles being involved.If you exercise them wrong after a while the voice can really be damaged. So never go on when you realize that you sound and feel hoarse.

[hfneerd]

Dear Lea4u2u

Classical singers are not better trained than other. Classical singing is technically 99% identical to other styles.

I agree that when feeling hoarse or uncomfortable during singing, it is a clear sign that the technique are being done wrongly. The SOUND however is not the problem. You can sound 'hoarse' without being it.

The CVT technique is described in her book (6 language versions). 80 singers are authorised as CVT Teachers. Meet some at the videosfromCVI channel.

:) Henrik

[Rickardlindgrens]

@Lea4u2u My song teacher is teching me this technique. It really is complete after only one year i can sing like a classical singer and a rock singer i can sing eveything and it's only because of this technique! Everyone should learn this

[Mushamashi987654]

@Lea4u2u read up some of what "false vocal folds" are.

[mark88bon]

Whith curbing hold you use the false vocal cords and with distortion you use the false vocal cords. Could you say that distortion is made by a strong hold?. It feels that way to me

[hfneerd]

Hi mark88bon

Yes, the false folds are making the distortion, but they can be used in many ways, and hold is not the way to distortion. A way to go is to twang more and more until you get distortion.

In the CVT book there is a step to step guide how to do distortion. You can also take a look at the videos from the videosfromCVI channel where I think at least one of the teachers talks a little about distortion.

Best wishes :) Henrik

[mjordan1998]

Are the low larynx exercises in speech level singing (imitating yogi the bear) actually bad for your voice? I find my cords are swollen after I practice it for a while.

[hfneerd]

Dear mjordan1988.

I don't know the exercises you write about, but swollen cords is a pretty good sign you are doing something wrong. I might be the exercises are damaging, but it might also being you not performing them right. Hard to know :)

If you want to discuss vocal technique in more details, I suggest you join CVI's vocal technique forum at "forum.completevocalinstituteD­OTcom".

Best wishes :) Henrik

[copaceticmedia]

This is SO interesting. Is it possible to buy the whole seminar? xx

[elhama90]

This woman is a genious.

[kiagguduh]

It would be great if people who attended CVI's courses could post videos from themselves showing off

[mezo27]

Interesting, it reminds me a little of the Astill method, founded by the american jo Astill. She talks about what she calls the six voice qualities: cry, belt, twang, opera,speech, and others I can't remember. Interesting to compare.

[hfneerd]

I understand it can look a bit like the Jo Estill method at first glance. There are similarities, but when diving into the material there are also very big differences. I am no Estill expert, but as far as I know the CVT vocal modes, Neutral, Curbing, Overdrive and Belting are not covered by the Estill method. The Estill voice qualities are more comparable to CVT's soundcolors than to CVT's vocal modes. Thanks for your interest :) Henrik

[Aarondefyinggravity]

Belting is covered by the Estill Method, basically they are just saying the same thing in different ways, the pedagogical 'rules' and muscles that are manipulated produce the same vocal qualities as said at 2.17 onwards

[hfneerd]

The Estill term 'Belting' does not mean the same as the CVT term 'Belting'. Also CVT's Curbing and Neutral can be classified as Estill-Belting as long as they are high pitched with light sound colour. It is of course confusing when one word have different meanings, just like it is the case with the register names 'chest voice', 'falsetto' etc. To avoid confusion CVT does not use the term 'Belting' anymore. In the latest books the name of the mode 'Belting' is changed into 'Edge'. Best wishes :)

[naivete2006]

I have the original book. Other than being termed 'Edge' now has anything about the technique changed?

[hfneerd]

Yes, the new book published in November 2008 is totally updated and more or less rewritten all the way through. The techniques has developed quite a lot since the previous book from 2000. Also the CD is replaced with the CVT Sound Library consisting of 417 female and 417 male sound examples and exercises. Best wishes :)

[kilobitti]

Complete Vocal is developed from the Astill method. Ripoff.

[hfneerd]

The CVT method is not developed from the Estill method. CVT has been developed since the late eighties, and the differences between the two methods are huge. Today I was at a conference, where a high profile EVTS teacher presented a research study that suggested, that pulling in the abdomen below the navel is beneficial for singing. CVT has taught this the last 20 years, so is EVTS then a ripoff of CVT? Of course not. Vocal technique are being developed simultaneously by many different people :)

[kilobitti]

@hfneerd well, the word is that she attended three Estill courses, and then announced that she has a new method called Complete Vocal Technique :D

[debros65]

Really interesting! We just learnt about Ms Sadolin and the variuos vocal techniques in a Pop Workshop this weekend and I must say our choir has been transformed through overdrive, belting and curbing. I will be ordering the book and Cd soon

[hfneerd]

Hi debros65

Thanks for your kind words! Sounds like you have been on a good workshop. I'm curious to know where it was, and who the teacher was? I'm glad you find CVT useful.

Best wishes :) Henrik

[whyldephaier]

how is a pop workshop? i see so many people that could go to them but not that many ppl end up as pop stars and im wondering... why?

also did you feel like you improved alot?

[debros65]

Well actually it was Vocal Jazz, Pop, Gospel in choral arrangements. It opened up a whole new era of sound for us. This has nothing to do with pop stars. Our choir will definitely be implementing the new techniques where appropriate

[sanrio1angel]

dont mean to badger... what kind of NEW things did you guys learn?

[melonmusic]

thanks for posting

[saloneffects]

interesting