mm413c is correct about the Ulster Scotsmen. They called themselves Irish, though. The "Scotch-Irish is an Americanism used by the rest of the country to identify them. They had at least a hundred-year stopoff in Ulster before they started coming in the 1700's. They filled much of Pennsylvania and moved southward eventually filling most of the South, and Texas, Missouri and Kansas.
Great posting !! This is genuine "collectors' item" grade footage .. so rare to see two legends of American Bluegrass Music in action like Bill & Kenny Baker here together .. down home at Bill's place at Jerusalem Ridge.
my family goes back to some bacteria about 4.5 billion years ago. figure i'm related to anyone who reads this. there have been some hellish family fueds down through the years, but here we are, breating the sweet air of the present moment. that was then, this is now. glad you're here, whoever you are. "i greet this day with a forgiving spirit. i forgive myself." my good dog is maybe my 8 millionth cousin. her wolf ancestors probably ate some of my closer relatives. that's ok. bff
That certainly puts it all into perspective LOL! So true, we are all related one way or another. I can trace my ancestry to the Holy Roman Emperor, but I don't figure I'm any better than the next person. Would like a share of the booty though :-)
Really, booty is meaningless, pride can be a good thing or not, but it's good to have some pride in our ancestry so that we honor one another! It should not be fuel for conflict.
My blood line is Celtic, and it's historicly older than that of the known first historical mention of the name Scotland which came about 800years ago, my blood line goes back to about 810 years ago.
In fact the lion rampant insignia was brought over by my bloodline as it's used in my clan crest, again this can be proven with historical records.
The true scots were Picts and they integrated with the celts over the years, no one can relate to the picts, cos it's no fully known what happened.
No you are wrong, the PICTS were a seperate tribe from the CELTS, the Picts were here in Scotland before the Celts, and in fact were here before any viking/Roman Invasions took place, it is said that after the Invasions etc, they integrated with the new settlers over time.
Most of the lot from ireland are of spanish ancestory about 1000years back or so, so are there truly celts, is anyone truly a single race? probably not.
The lion rampant was brought to scotland about 800 years ago, and used as it's national symbol, it is a royal crest even today, so we (McNamara's) have this in our family crest because we were the forebearers to the throne of ireland.
Hence marking out at least the last 800 years of history for us.
I also happen to know that my family name is older than 800 years from other history.
okay I have too much to say in one small bit of txt, but i'll try.
you have to look at what kind of history will survive, and the kinds of history that will survive for sure, are those of notable interest, such as royalty or those who helped royalty for instance.
the McNamara clan from county clare, were the forebearers to the throne of ireland, that means we are well documented.
I am a McNamara, and my family crest shows the Lion rampant before it was used for Scotland.
The Romans called the Irish 'Scots'.When they evacuated Britain in the 5th century AD, the Irish (Scots) invaded and colonized parts of western & northern Britain.North Britain became 'Scot' land.The Scots-Irish or Scotch-Irish (from Ulster) are not different in any ethnic/genetic way from the Irish.They do differ culturally and historically but both Irish and Scotch-Irish are from indigenous Gaelic/Celtic stock.Ulster and Scotland have had close historic ties for centuries.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Enough with this Irish Scots crap. The Scottish were long in their land before some Pikey's from Ireland infested the South. There were very small amounts of Irish who settled into Scotland, and perhaps you should knowledge yourself on just how Scots populated Ireland.
They were Scottish, not Scot-Irish, so shut the fuck up, Yank!
Chad, I wonder if you're not misunderstanding the American usage of Scots-Irish. It has nothing to do with Irish settlement in Scotland. When Ulster Scotsmen came to America, they were asked where they were from and they would list Ireland; yet they were clearly different from ethnic Irish Catholics, so they called themselves "Scotch-Irish." The Irish part of "Scots-Irish" or more commonly "Scotch-Irish" is just to designate where they emigrated from, not to suggest their ethnicity/nationality.
Yes, but just to add, not all Scots in Ireland came from Ayrshire. Some of my ancestors came from Wigtownshire (then went to the Counties Down, Cavan, and Tyrone in Ireland, immigrated to Philadelphia, pushed into the interior of Pennsylvania, and then followed the Appalachians south). The overwhelming majority of Scotch-Irish forebears were from the western lowlands, a lot from Ayrshire but from other areas too.
We have a very large population of Scottish descended people in the US, particularly in the south, and the Appalachian region. Even Elvis' mother was a Monroe.
Scotts/Irish are the backbone of the American South. Mixed in with the American Indians and you have a true Southerner...I'm one and know many like myself.....very few German...or Nords here....oh, if the South would have won....
Well, Force, I agree that the Scots-Irish are a big part of the South, but still there were more Englishmen who came to the South than ethnic Scots and more Southerners have English names than Scottish, so let's not forget the English influence either. Plus, at least in the upper South some Germans did immigrate during the 1600 and 1700s and some others followed the mountains in PA down into WV and Southwest VA from Pennsylvania. The later German immigrants in the 1800s largely avoided the South
Ethnic Scots, mainly from Northern Ireland, settled very heavily in the Southern Appalachian mountains. This would include eastern Tennessee, eastern Kentucky, West Virginia, southwest Virginia, western North Carolina, and bits of South Carolina and northern Georgia. Almost all the whites native to these areas have at least a little Scottish blood.
Actually,you do a great disservice by not mentioning one of the world's finest fiddlers , Aly Bain , from Lerwick , Shetland , in Scotland !! He has travelled the world learning from and observing other fiddlers,Appalachia,Louisiana,etc. Simply a magnificent fiddler, and that would be him on the left in the burgundy sweater, Albainn Gu Brath !!!!
He certainly is a superb musician--but I was referring to the older 'first generation' American artists. Aly is probably better known in Canada than here in the USA--and he certainly deserves better recognition in the states, alright!
Actually Aly Bain was better known in America as one of the key studio musicians in the famous Trans-Atlantic Sessions 1995 -1996 and played & recorded with Iris Dement, Jay Ungar, ,JL Menard , Dewey Balfa , Michael Doucet and Beau Soleil , Jerry Douglas , Emmy Lou Harris , Dobro Danny , Russ Barenberg , ,JP Fraley , Mark O'connor , Bill Monroe ,Tommy jarrell , ,Johnny gimble , Kathy Matteo , and Ricky Skaggs just to mention some of his American collaborations ,simply one of the world's best
The great Chris Jones is on the guitar.You didn't include him on your description.
Thanks for the video.
greekflatpicker 4 weeks ago
@JamesDonnelly90 All of Scotland is anti-catholic/irish? I thought it was just the lowlanders (glasgow, hearts kilmarnock etc)
Are the scotsm from the highlands and islands the same? and how about north-east scotland like aberdeen & inverness, wick?
bagies 4 months ago
@bagies Rome is the foe.
howtoplanaparty 3 months ago
This music sounds very very irish to me.
bagies 5 months ago
ricky skaggs in concert at watseka theatre watseka illinois on aug 26
rocmaven 6 months ago
My last name is Shaw, there's little wonder why I love this kind of music so much.
wesmantodd1974 6 months ago
I'm Scottish 1st
2nd would ee Scottish/English
3rd Europian
Where I came from we drink Scotch (but call it WHISKY & spell it that way) , People are not scotch - whisky is though.
Nonethe less Bluegrass is great
dwyteuke 1 year ago
I believe Monroe would do it that way...
gha714 1 year ago
kenny baker is bad ass
capnhowdy66 1 year ago
mm413c is correct about the Ulster Scotsmen. They called themselves Irish, though. The "Scotch-Irish is an Americanism used by the rest of the country to identify them. They had at least a hundred-year stopoff in Ulster before they started coming in the 1700's. They filled much of Pennsylvania and moved southward eventually filling most of the South, and Texas, Missouri and Kansas.
The "Shamrock" Irish came in the 1800's mostly.
ScotchIrishFool1 1 year ago 6
Great posting !! This is genuine "collectors' item" grade footage .. so rare to see two legends of American Bluegrass Music in action like Bill & Kenny Baker here together .. down home at Bill's place at Jerusalem Ridge.
colindominy 2 years ago
I miss Bill...
Pickinbuddy 2 years ago 2
Nine Below Zero (uk band rock blues) took this music for harp intro on Ridin' on the L&N
pappatacio66 2 years ago
my family goes back to some bacteria about 4.5 billion years ago. figure i'm related to anyone who reads this. there have been some hellish family fueds down through the years, but here we are, breating the sweet air of the present moment. that was then, this is now. glad you're here, whoever you are. "i greet this day with a forgiving spirit. i forgive myself." my good dog is maybe my 8 millionth cousin. her wolf ancestors probably ate some of my closer relatives. that's ok. bff
1DennisK 2 years ago 2
That certainly puts it all into perspective LOL! So true, we are all related one way or another. I can trace my ancestry to the Holy Roman Emperor, but I don't figure I'm any better than the next person. Would like a share of the booty though :-)
Really, booty is meaningless, pride can be a good thing or not, but it's good to have some pride in our ancestry so that we honor one another! It should not be fuel for conflict.
My cat's ancestors ate your dog LOL PEACE.
Ermengarde11 2 years ago
My blood line is Celtic, and it's historicly older than that of the known first historical mention of the name Scotland which came about 800years ago, my blood line goes back to about 810 years ago.
In fact the lion rampant insignia was brought over by my bloodline as it's used in my clan crest, again this can be proven with historical records.
The true scots were Picts and they integrated with the celts over the years, no one can relate to the picts, cos it's no fully known what happened.
BHALT0S 2 years ago
The Picts too were Celtic but their language is completely unknown.
The official languages of both Ireland and Scotland are their respective versions of Gaelic.
People have been moving and settling between Ulster (in Ireland) and Scotland for thousands of years.
SpacevoidNavigator 2 years ago
No you are wrong, the PICTS were a seperate tribe from the CELTS, the Picts were here in Scotland before the Celts, and in fact were here before any viking/Roman Invasions took place, it is said that after the Invasions etc, they integrated with the new settlers over time.
Most of the lot from ireland are of spanish ancestory about 1000years back or so, so are there truly celts, is anyone truly a single race? probably not.
BHALT0S 2 years ago
Comment removed
bloobear1 2 years ago
continuation from above post.
The lion rampant was brought to scotland about 800 years ago, and used as it's national symbol, it is a royal crest even today, so we (McNamara's) have this in our family crest because we were the forebearers to the throne of ireland.
Hence marking out at least the last 800 years of history for us.
I also happen to know that my family name is older than 800 years from other history.
It is said the picts merged with the celts.
BHALT0S 2 years ago
Comment removed
bloobear1 2 years ago
okay I have too much to say in one small bit of txt, but i'll try.
you have to look at what kind of history will survive, and the kinds of history that will survive for sure, are those of notable interest, such as royalty or those who helped royalty for instance.
the McNamara clan from county clare, were the forebearers to the throne of ireland, that means we are well documented.
I am a McNamara, and my family crest shows the Lion rampant before it was used for Scotland.
BHALT0S 2 years ago
The Romans called the Irish 'Scots'.When they evacuated Britain in the 5th century AD, the Irish (Scots) invaded and colonized parts of western & northern Britain.North Britain became 'Scot' land.The Scots-Irish or Scotch-Irish (from Ulster) are not different in any ethnic/genetic way from the Irish.They do differ culturally and historically but both Irish and Scotch-Irish are from indigenous Gaelic/Celtic stock.Ulster and Scotland have had close historic ties for centuries.
SpacevoidNavigator 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Enough with this Irish Scots crap. The Scottish were long in their land before some Pikey's from Ireland infested the South. There were very small amounts of Irish who settled into Scotland, and perhaps you should knowledge yourself on just how Scots populated Ireland.
They were Scottish, not Scot-Irish, so shut the fuck up, Yank!
chadstur1991 2 years ago
Chad, I wonder if you're not misunderstanding the American usage of Scots-Irish. It has nothing to do with Irish settlement in Scotland. When Ulster Scotsmen came to America, they were asked where they were from and they would list Ireland; yet they were clearly different from ethnic Irish Catholics, so they called themselves "Scotch-Irish." The Irish part of "Scots-Irish" or more commonly "Scotch-Irish" is just to designate where they emigrated from, not to suggest their ethnicity/nationality.
rmm413c 2 years ago 13
Comment removed
bloobear1 2 years ago
Yes, but just to add, not all Scots in Ireland came from Ayrshire. Some of my ancestors came from Wigtownshire (then went to the Counties Down, Cavan, and Tyrone in Ireland, immigrated to Philadelphia, pushed into the interior of Pennsylvania, and then followed the Appalachians south). The overwhelming majority of Scotch-Irish forebears were from the western lowlands, a lot from Ayrshire but from other areas too.
rmm413c 2 years ago
I love this stuff -- I appreciate your comments. It's fascinating to study human migration, intermingling of cultures, etc. Thanks!
Ermengarde11 2 years ago
The diaspora is there are more Scots living in Canada, the United States and other parts the world than there are Scots in Scotland.
Ken, Toronto
dreadnought45 2 years ago
i wanted to remind everyone that bill is from western kentucky .
cornforkpicker997 2 years ago 2
I'm Scottish, and am I correct by saying that States such as Tennesse are Scottish originated?
chadstur1991 3 years ago
We have a very large population of Scottish descended people in the US, particularly in the south, and the Appalachian region. Even Elvis' mother was a Monroe.
ffairlane57 3 years ago
Scotts/Irish are the backbone of the American South. Mixed in with the American Indians and you have a true Southerner...I'm one and know many like myself.....very few German...or Nords here....oh, if the South would have won....
ForceRecon75 2 years ago
Well, Force, I agree that the Scots-Irish are a big part of the South, but still there were more Englishmen who came to the South than ethnic Scots and more Southerners have English names than Scottish, so let's not forget the English influence either. Plus, at least in the upper South some Germans did immigrate during the 1600 and 1700s and some others followed the mountains in PA down into WV and Southwest VA from Pennsylvania. The later German immigrants in the 1800s largely avoided the South
rmm413c 2 years ago
Ethnic Scots, mainly from Northern Ireland, settled very heavily in the Southern Appalachian mountains. This would include eastern Tennessee, eastern Kentucky, West Virginia, southwest Virginia, western North Carolina, and bits of South Carolina and northern Georgia. Almost all the whites native to these areas have at least a little Scottish blood.
rmm413c 2 years ago
Right on again!
bloobear1 2 years ago
When times were right!
TIDOWNOW 3 years ago
God Bless Scotland! The birthplace of the South!
crazycuntryboy2 3 years ago 2
is the Fiona Ritchie narrating?
seanprager 3 years ago
Kenny Baker's one of my favorite fiddle players!
playmorebluegrass 3 years ago
wow, i'd like to get my hands on this whole video. What is it?
snowmanpolice 3 years ago
That IS fine!
TheShufflemeister 3 years ago
WAO!JUST AWESOME!GBU BILL
tperez78 3 years ago
We miss you, Bill. Say hi for me to Paul Warren if you bump into him. Both of you are my heroes.
thorneswift 3 years ago
Two of the finest interpreters of traditional string band music; Monroe a leader, and Warren a longtime sideman--he was my favorite fiddler!
Pickinbuddy 3 years ago
you's can't forget the Irish influence
fuckerfromfermanagh 3 years ago
Actually,you do a great disservice by not mentioning one of the world's finest fiddlers , Aly Bain , from Lerwick , Shetland , in Scotland !! He has travelled the world learning from and observing other fiddlers,Appalachia,Louisiana,etc. Simply a magnificent fiddler, and that would be him on the left in the burgundy sweater, Albainn Gu Brath !!!!
Macangusagain 3 years ago
He certainly is a superb musician--but I was referring to the older 'first generation' American artists. Aly is probably better known in Canada than here in the USA--and he certainly deserves better recognition in the states, alright!
Pickinbuddy 3 years ago
Actually Aly Bain was better known in America as one of the key studio musicians in the famous Trans-Atlantic Sessions 1995 -1996 and played & recorded with Iris Dement, Jay Ungar, ,JL Menard , Dewey Balfa , Michael Doucet and Beau Soleil , Jerry Douglas , Emmy Lou Harris , Dobro Danny , Russ Barenberg , ,JP Fraley , Mark O'connor , Bill Monroe ,Tommy jarrell , ,Johnny gimble , Kathy Matteo , and Ricky Skaggs just to mention some of his American collaborations ,simply one of the world's best
Macangusagain 3 years ago
one of my favorite songs ever. thanks for posting.
cnedwick 3 years ago
Yes. I love this.
Erkele 3 years ago
This film clip is a treasure. Thank you.
marlis44 3 years ago
absolute classic
cheers my friend
MandoMohan 3 years ago
Such a privilege to hear Bill Monroe play "Jenny Lynn" -- a famous song, it is immortalized in the bridge of his famous fiddle tune "Uncle Pen":
"He played a song called Solider's Joy,
and one they call the Boston Boy,
But the greatest of all was Jenny Lynn,
To me that's where the fiddle begin."
"Jenny Lynn" is seldom recorded so it is great to hear Monroe play it on the mandolin.
Thanks for posting!
Mandolin1944 4 years ago
These videos of yours are jewels! Thank you so much for sharing them with us!
hansomeartin 4 years ago