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  • Im so fucking sick of these bugs.. Thank you for showing this. Every god damn main quest I go on is bugged. its ridiculous.

  • I'm already with the storm cloaks and got the hero of skyrim achievement

  • Stupid spell check

  • For me the Karl I'd vignar grey mane and they are all at The great porch ready to spring the trap I never did the meeting cuz I don't know how to get to it and odahviing neve comes when I call him what do I do?

  • I joined a side and didn't completely finish the civil war and now I'm stuck :(

  • nor season unending*

  • @Laurenxorz - someone else with the sitting down problem said wait one hour at a time works

  • @pms00 Ok well it wont let me talk to Ulfric or Talius about the peace meeting on high wrothgar at all!!! I can talk to them, but i can only talk about things like, "How is the war going for you?" or "Did you always live in skyrim?" I tried talking to the greybeard again and he said the same stuff, then it wont let me talk about the peace meeting on high wrothgar again! Please help me!

  • when I sit down at the assembly nothing happens..... I'm on the storm cloak side and have the jagged crown but I can't finish that mission not season unending. when I speak to galmar he just tells me "I can't believe you arranged this truce" I tried this after downloading the patch but still no avail... what do I do? ): im level 63 and worker hard to get there I don't wanna start over haha ):

  • i joined the storm cloacks and are in message to whitrun and season unending and i cant talk the both sides about the truce what do i do? PLZ HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • the update doesn't work with this problem

  • @xXMFD - galmar is willing to let you join the stormcloaks now, instead of complaining about the truce.

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  • You mean if I joined stormcloaks I can completed the story missions ? @pms00

  • @xXMFD - yes. you need to join the stormcloaks to fix this bug. galmar used to be locked and not let you, but with the patch he will continue "Joining the Stormcloaks" quest. Once you finish that quest, Ulfric will talk to you and allow you to continue with "Season Unending"

  • thank you u helped me @pms00

  • @pms00 on ps3 it still doesnt work for me. :(

  • I have this problem on the ps3 but don't have a previous save and am level 42, i've had it for a week now and have been waiting for the patch. Apparently the patch is now out but i can't download it? I'm definetely connecting to the internet so i have no fucking clue what to do!

  • @StockportTom ~ 360 patch is out and I've confirmed the glitch is fixed. PS3 should be available to download at some point in the next 24 hours.

  • @pms00 ive donloweded all the most recent patches for xbox and i still cant get the achiment even though ive finished the entire civil war quest and the whole main quest what do i do?

  • I've finished the civil war and now it says "learn shout to call odahviing" but how do I do that?

  • Ok this is what is happening to me and they said that the patch 1.4 will fix it but ithe guy i talked to for tech support said that it will be out in a week i seen you guys commenting so i made an account to tell you! So i hope the patch will fix it

  • ulfric stormcloak is just laying on his bed at all times someone help

  • Cheers this was soo helpful!!

  • so, if I reload, choos?e a side, then do the peace treaty quest, they will sit down

  • Does anyone know how to fix the glitch in Elder Knowledge?

  • i need help.i've already completed all the other quest so i dicided to do the main quest.i did the civil war quest and i joined the stormcloaks,so i don't have the seasoning unending problem.but when i try to call the dragon he wont appear,can you help me?

  • @TheGreatCreator101 - are you holding the shout button all the way down to make sure you shout all 3 words of his name? he won't come if you only hit it and say the first word.

  • @pms00 i dont have a seprate load, the only other one i have is at lv 4. does that mean i'm screwed?

  • @MFBgamingFTW - if you can't roll back, you'll have to wait for patch 1.4 to see if that fixes it. they said it should work. i expect it by the end of this week.

  • @pms00 thanks

  • This is fucking bullshit. No previous save games... No patch. Hours and hours of gameplay, levelling up, level 100 on a couple of things, tonnes of dragon souls and shouts learned, Daedric armour smithed and now the only way for me to progress IS TO FUCKING START FROM SCRATCH?? Fuck you.

  • @drplbiftin - if you don't want to restart, they claim this will be fixed in patch 1.4. should be less than a week away on the console and it is already out for PC.

  • @pms00 is there a release date for it?

  • I can't speak to Paarthurnax or Arngeir or Esbern. Well, I can but after completing the dialog with any of them the objective isn't completed. Really pissing me off.

  • THAT PATCH BETTER BE COMIN SOON!!

  • hm.. I have joined the stormcloacks but am now stuck at "The jagged crown" .. Ulfrig tells me to speak to Galmar.. Galmar keeps telling me how unbelievable it is that I've convinced the Jarl.. which I haven't .. yet. I had the option "I have a message from the greybeards", did that and then the entire conversation just.. stopped and eversince I'm completely stuck. I rolled back into saved games and did everything and yet still they refuse to obay. That 1.4 patch ain't for ps3.. or is it?

  • I'm not going to the save before this quest cos I've done loads of shit since then

  • FOUND A WAY AROUND THE GLITCH - If you talk to Urflic he'll tell you to talk to someone about joining a side. End the conversation with Urflic then begin a new conversation with him and he talk to you about the Grey Beards and you can continue the quest.

  • -.- i hate bethesda right now i really like skyrim but cant come any longer because of this bug,

    i really hope this "soon" will be really soon

  • I contacted them, they wrote back:

    The issue that you are experiencing is a known issue and we are working diligently to fix it in upcoming patches. Unfortunately at this time we do not have an ETA on when the next patch will be deployed. Aside from loading a previous save file prior to reaching that point in the quest and trying again, the best thing to do at this point would be to keep an eye on our forums, as this is the best source of information for emerging issues and patch information.

  • @X3n0nFr33k thanks for posting this for us.

  • damn my last save is in the elder scrolls place better than restarting

  • Thats Fuckin Retarted...... MY AUTOSAVE IS IN THE PALACE OF KINGS THIS IS BULLSHIT

  • SOMEONE PLEASE HELP! I have done the storm cloaks mission but when I try to talk to ever jarl or the general the option to host the meeting is not there what do I do?

  • Btw whats the point nobody's gonna search before they get the bug so it's too late for a save and nobody wants to have to kill all those bloody falmers again XD

  • @MrHotdog32 - hopefully, they search when they get the bug but happened to HAVE a save already they can roll back to. I find a lot of people don't know why this happens and need to know they must proceed in the civil war first.

    for those who didn't keep a save, it is sad. always keep many saves in Bethesda games.....

  • Hurry the hell up patch its only been like 2 months!!!

  • when is the patch 1.4 coming out please answer asap thanks

  • f**k my life...i started the join the legions quest way before this T.T im fcked now arent i

  • I cant talk to the dragon after when you caught him, you know :P so its just going on and on and on with deafeting him but I still cant talk to him and now are everyone pist at me :/

  • I'm about to flip the Fck out with damn quest!!!

  • what if you have killed ulfric/tullius and cant speak with them cuz they are dead?

  • damnit, why didn't i nkow this before odahviing got bugged and became immortal now i can't finish the main quest :(

  • what if you join the legion after you talk to the legion boss or am I going to have to go through all those GOD DAMN FALMERS AGAIN!!!

  • OMG THANK GOD I JUST LOOK THIS UP I HAVEN'T JOIN EITHER SIDE YET AND I WAS ALREADY IN THE MEETING AND ASKING MY QUESTION AND I WAS CONFUSE CUZ I WANT TO BE IN THE LEGION SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS TELLING THEM TO DO THE RIGHT THING LUCKY I HAD A OLD SAVED SPOT BEFORE ALL THIS AND NOW IMA GO AHEAD AND JOIN THEN START THANK U:)))

  • i had this proplem on ps3 today :(

    is there any soulotion

  • I didn't find out about this glitch except when I spoke with Ulfric....am I stuck now and have to start over? T-T please answer!!

  • @Kemorasi - they are fixing this in patch 1.4 soon, but if you have an earlier save you should roll back to it.

  • @pms00 You mean an update? cuz I play Skyrim on Xbox...and if so, I really hope that update is sometime soon because I have literally worked so hard for my daedric set...

  • @pms00 and no, I did not save because I had no idea that this retarded shit was gonna happen ...sorry for being rude but this is really frustrating...

  • @pms00 How soon...? o.O

  • @pms00 Also what website are you using to find this news. Im on the Elder scrolls website and i see no patch news on this problem

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  • was there a solution to ps3 or what im confused.

  • when is the quest patches for xbox 360 coming out?

  • Great news: This is going to be fixed in patch 1.4 next week.

  • @pms00 Where did you hear this? I was just about to start over..thank god theyre coming out wiht the patch

  • @JOD420 - straight from the horses mouth. they posted it on their blog. link is on my channel in the activity section.

  • @pms00 do you know when in next week?

  • @pms00 This guy deserves thumbs up :)

  • @pms00 Is that xbox or ps3 as i am skrewed and can not do any thing and do not want to rest

  • @pms00 Did they give a date because it still isn't fixed and I see you posted that a week ago.

  • @hippybullshit - no date given yet, but i passed along the info posted on twitter. submitting for certification this week then its up to ms/sony

  • is there a way to do this quest without joining either factions? Cos when I talk to either ulfric or tullius, they both just want me to join their sides and the dialogue for the peace treaty doesn't come up. I play on ps3 btw.

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  • and it didn't work mannnnn

  • think i may have found a way... it's not ideal but then again neithers loading a save and losing 30+ hours of gametime after it happened. I got asked to kill paarthurnax by delphine/esborn and i read that if you kill him before season unending has been completed, the greybeards will refuse to hold the council and you will have to start the civil war questline instead. I haven't tried it yet so i don't know if it will work but i'm gonna try now.

  • i rly fukin hope this gets patched because i started the join the stormcloaks quest at very early level and got the afar in the main quest around level 20-30 so i wasnt going to go back to an old save to fix this. I really hope this gets patched because its incredibly frustrating

  • It froze once for me, but I reset the PS3 and it worked fine.

  • I seem to have a different bug... I'm on the stormcloak side but I got them both to go to the peace council but when I sit at the table they all just stand around and tell me to sit... but I am sitting...

  • Good thing i went through 6 levels and like 15 other quests to then realize that there was a glitch.

  • Have both quests active on 360 no save before. No patch fic or what?

  • I have the same fuckin probleme, so with the rebel quest: the jagged crown, SAME THING! im STUCK!! i cant progress in the principal quest.. bethseda must PATCH IT! so repair this problem!!

  • I dont really understand this , Im at the fallen , i need to call odahving but in my inventory is still the axe that i need to give to the jarl balgruuf the greater, I cant call odahving now :c

  • bethesda is being lazy fucks like always. they haven't fixed this, pantea's flute, and the skald's quests. why doesn't todd howard see this. im getting fucking pissed

  • ok what if im done the civil war quest before the fallen? like right now "Fallen" is my main quest and there is no civil war questline, am i good?

  • my problem is that when we get to the actual peace meeting, when i sit my character down nobody talks so the meeting cant proceed, someone please help!!!! :'(

  • I have an idea if you join the imperials will it make you fail the stormcloack quest?

  • My bug will let me talk to them but it is a casual talk nothing about the mission

  • thx mate this helped i had a save just before i talked to the jarl, god this saved my ass.

  • Has anyone tried doing the civil war quest for the opposite faction? It may get rid of your bugged civil war quest and allow you to proceed.

  • what if ive gained too many lvls and discovered more places with more loot with and ive gone too far in the games side quests am i fucked

  • I guess Im fucked.

  • Well,Im stuck too,but now I have a quest to return the Axe of Ulfric to Ulfric and he keeps ignoring me,also I dont know how to talk with General Tallius,cuz I joined the Stormcloaks..any help? Fuck Skyrim's stupid and annoying bugs -.-

  • wow.......... not really the ideal fix.

  • It's better to make save data frequently.

    No choice in right now.

  • happened to me too, so pissed about it, its ruining the game for me.

  • I'm stuck, I joined the legion and currently doing the quest 'Season Unending', but when I take my seat nothing happens. Help?

  • hmm and to think i just spend thousands of gold and time to get all skills to 100 and boom i get this bug.. well im not playing anymore until this gets fixed im not giving up my acc and if they dont fix it i will never play again.

  • In my quest thing it has two: Join the Imperials and Join the Stormcloaks but I haven't started either. Does it still count for me?

  • my solution first go talk to the other guy and then tho stormcloak simple as that

  • If you have accepted the Jagged crown mission make sure you finish that one first before attempting to talk to Ulfric or the general.

  • NEW UPDATE: There should be a new patch coming as of January 5th.

    Let's hope they fix this stupid ass bug.

  • @BitchBeTooFresh u do realise it january 7th ?

  • Will it work if i just do the quest? I've already accepted the quest but haven't completed it yet.

  • Yes just make sure you have the fallen done.

  • Ok guys here gose, if you like myself got suck on doing the fallen main mission here is the solution.

    1.If you have tried to speek to ether Genral Tullius or Ulfric Stormcloak your now stuck and cant go forward with the fallen mission.

    2.If you have a save point before this go back to this one and look for the mission THE JAGGED CROWN go complete this one first, and you will be able to go forward with the FALLEN MAIN MISSION.... Goood lcuk

  • What's the solution if you have both join the legion and join the stormcloak quests in your log? I failed save at the right time but the wrong time and I'm stuck. For some reason, after trying to "resetquest" I get no progress at all from anyone involved in the truce and both the jarl or the general. xD

  • so wich should i do first season unending or the fallen?

  • @terminator94zozo - you can't do the fallen until you have either finished the civil war, or done season unending.

    do the civil war at least past the jagged crown before starting this. i suggest doing the ENTIRE civil war before starting this, so you can also get the 'war hero' achievement.

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  • @pms00 civil war??? i havent got it yet but can i join the imperial or stormclock after i finished the main quest?

  • I am so FUCKED

  • i'm playing on the xbox and i accidentally called odavinn in the wrong spot and he got stuck in the ground anyone else have this bug because i do not want to restart. i thought it wasn't a problem at first so i did other quests but i'm work on daedric artifacts and one requires you to alk to jarl of whiterun so i can't get that artifact either

  • FOR XBOX 360 I HAVE THE ANSWER!!!

    LOAD A GAME BEFORE YOU KILLED THE ICE WRAITH TO JOIN THE STORMCLOAKS

    THEN KILL THE ICE WRAITH AND RETURN TO ULFRIC AND GALMOR

    THEY WILL BE IN CONVERSATION

    DONT TRY AND TALK TO GALMOR, REPEATEDLY TAP A NEXT TO ULFRIC AND BOOM

    YOU'RE IN TALKING WITH HIM ABOUT THE COUNCIL MEETING

    worked for me, hope this helped

  • @CrAzYWeAZiLzX - i tried this (and a million other things) and it didnt work for me. glad it did for you and hopefully some others.

  • @CrAzYWeAZiLzX DUDE YOU ROCK!!!!!! I was having the same problems everyone else was having about this major bug affecting the main quest, and your solution worked for me!!! Thank god man, I was about to be pissed. I literally got my ps3 and skyrim for xmas and was not gonna be too happy. I suggest following this guys notes if you can.

  • @jwlong4 Its okay man, glad i helped :)

  • fuck! I have to redo the game from the ground not having a return rescue at the time before speaking to Ulfrich ...

  • FUUUUUUUCCKKKKKKKKK

  • Can anyone help me please?!:( the dragon wont talk to me like i can trap him and everything but when i do it wont give me the quest completion for trapping him. Can anyone help please?! :'(

  • @sdfsdfdsfdsafsdf restart from before you called the dragon.... worked for me :)

  • How do i set the trap on the dragon if i cant report to a king? like i go talk to the guy and he says once i report to whiterun ill get my men ready but he wont leave this place?

  • do you have to have live in order for it to be patched

  • I joined the legion and my shit still sucks.

  • consoles players u dont have to restart they are tons of side quest u can do while u wait for the patch ....

  • SO MUCH THANK YOU <333333 big thanks, i was looking every where and people where like RESET QUESTSSS, but it didn't work and finally! so much thank you, you saved my day <3

  • shit.... plz anyone, i need a confirmation that this will be patched, i cant just restart!!! i put too much time in this! plz reply

  • @HIDEYOKIDS101 - there is no confirmation that this will ever be fixed. it "could be" patched in the future.

  • i have lost maybe 40 hours of my life if they don't fix this........

  • FUCK SKYRIM! I have to lose hours and hours of gameplay because of one stupid fucking glitch!!!!!!

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  • I have to start all over!??!?!?!?!

  • Could have helped a lot before I got totally fucked -.-

    Video games are a waste of time xD

  • I don't have a save that goes back that far so should I restart completely or is there any other way to do it

  • @paintedD26 - are you on the PC? if you are on the PC there are some workarounds. If you are not, you'll have to restart the game or wait for a patch (could be weeks).

  • Thanks -333

  • I love you thanks -3

  • MY LAST SAVE WAS WHEN I WAS LEVEL 10 IM 29 NOW

  • Well there goes over 10 hours of my game wasted

  • fml fml fml im not going back my last save was like 2-3 hours before

  • @mrkingofrock1 - hope this is sarcasm. 3 hours lost is no big deal for skyrim.

  • @pms00 Im on xbox and i cant talk to Ulfric nor the other guy. What should I do!?!?! im stuck!!

  • @pms00 My last save was about 4 days ago. Fuck.

  • What about console players o.o im screwed

  • @TheNathanQaz - you have to roll back your save or wait for a patch. there are no promises it will be fixed in the next one. eat the lost time. better than a broken playthrough.

  • @pms00 Do you know if there will be a patch because if not im losing over 20 hours of gameplay...:(

  • @ThePingling - there will be a patch. the question is how long will it take. the next one is slated for mid-jan but they have not confirmed which quest bugs will be addressed.

  • PC players - turn on the console and type "Resetquest MQ302" to reset the joint the stormcloaks stage flags and remove the quest conflict. ...Thumbs up so everyone see this

  • i got so pissed because of this i turned into a werewolf and tried killing all of them damn stormcloaks didn't work LOL

  • i captured odhaviing and when I finish talking to him nothing happens no releasing shit and no arrow above the guard and when i pull the chain nothing happens can anyone help me? (sorry for the fucked up grammer)

  • I am already part of the Stormcloaks but I don't have the saves from way back when I first started those two quests. I did a billion other quests because of the bug. So what can I do? I already joined the Stormcloaks but how do I progress further? I can't becuase of that bug. I was level like 20 then, and I am level 36 now. I don't want to restart D:

  • P.S. If you talk to Tullius and he agrees to attend the peace council, you can't talk to him again. Way to go Bethesda! Complete stuckdom.

  • This is such a stupid bug, and ruined the game for me. I was enjoying it sooo much, got to level 46 and bam. Stupid ass bug. This better get fixed by the next patch or... Or I'll be super pissed.

  • How do you get the patches?

  • Yeah what if you've grown 15 levels since your most recent save before starting The Fallen...

  • @TannerDavidson - either throw away that time, start a new character, or wait for a patch. they might fix it sometime in january (next scheduled quest patch)

  • @TannerDavidson JUST play out the war, kill the ice wraith, report back to Ulric and his commander, then continue on invading Winterhold and the Jarl will submit to the unrelenting beat down lol and you'll have taken out the middle man, go to Tullius and ask him for his acceptance to the peace council then back to Ulric, do the same both will agree, bada bing, its done. --- IF you have already started up until the truce part? Hopefully, you can go back alil just before the truce.

  • @TannerDavidson Oh.. obviously, you also have to complete the Jagged Crown mission in order to get to the war lol.

  • What if you didn't save before starting "The Fallen"? :( I killed the Ice Wraith, but I'm running into the same problem: the Jarl tells me to speak to Galmar, and Galmar just says "I don't know how you convinced... blah blah" Please help. :( I already spoke to Tullius.

  • when do they plan to fix this? anyone know?

  • @blackguytheif they said the first batch of quest fixes will come out mid-january. they have not listed what quests that includes yet.

  • I joined the Stormcloaks but didn't do "The Jagged Crown" and Ulfric nor Galmar will talk.That's my problem.Please,please help...

  • Holy shit this is bullshit, the Jarl never gave me the quest season unending! I check my journal and only fallen is there. He never gave me season unending??? wtf omg now i am fucking stuck and i don't know what to do QQ

  • I'm at the piece councle thing at the grey beards but NOTHING IS FUCKING HAPPENING HELP ME!!!!!!!

  • thanks you saved my game

  • But I haven't saved it! I was unaware of this so have no idea what to do =( Gonna try talk to Tullius, see if he lets me join, as long as the bug resides!

  • I regreted it but the way to fix this is by joining the imperial legion :( (not 100% confirmed if works) yeah im pretty sure everyone stuck in this situation wanted to be an underdog but sometimes change is moving forward. PS i suggest you have a back up save of being a sotrmcloak :)