BMW R1200RT group test

[estranged124]

Where is GTR1400??

[weescott206]

Rubbish report, no fuel,miles, weight data, COG discussion, etc. However this said I own a 07 R12 rt and none of the other boilers in this category or test even come close to it, take away the issues of mirror position and the beamer is the definitive tourer, 39-40 mpg achievable, 140+ mph (Autobahn) for fast continental touring,(mile eating) arrive at the alps, drop the panniers and box, switch to sport mode and destroy lightweight tourers on Klausenpass.. EPIC... there is only one choice here

[AshtonPhoto]

@weescott206

Agreed.

About 30 seconds of shaky footage of bikes being ridden.

I think I could do a better report with an my phone and iMovie.

[369torn]

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[stratovanzo]

only for information my uncle bought a new BMW RT1200 full optional and after 6 months the rear wheel almost detached fom the transmission and he was driving on the highway in italy about 150 km/h...the dealer said it happens pretty often on this model, so I mean that's not a good sign of reliability.. I still see oldguzzies from the seventies still running...

[borge225]

I've heard you can now get the RT with a 29.5 inch seat. If so, this will really help sales I think. Now if you could just ride without bending your knee in half.

[Leonvdb1]

I agree - abrubt ending, time wasted on "weather report" and other non-sense comments, if time is limited, give facts. And to comment on another reviewer who asked "Why compare the BMW to a Moto Guzzi or Honda?" So wise-crack, what other makers are there of bikes in this class.....??

[panman111]

I would have a bmw myself if i want a bike that had electrical problems and rusted away as you rode it. The pan may not be the best but will still be around in 10 year's + were do they get these mcn clowns from

[number1Schumacherfan]

@panman111 BMW is known to make some of the most reliable bikes on the planet. What are you talking about?? You have clearly displayed your lack of knowledge for everyone to see.

[panman111]

@number1Schumacherfan bearing problems electrial problems final drive problems oil seal problems do i need to go on o and the grap build quality still when your name is schumacher you learn not to be good with the truth see you soon at a bmw dealer getting your bike fixed as i ride past on my honda ........ha.ha.ha.ha.ha.....

[panman111]

@number1Schumacherfan ok thanks.

[stevenv1992]

I like how bits were breaking on the MV before you even started - typical Italian.

Back in Ramsey ;-)

[mattneur]

@stevenv1992

Yes and it is also typically italian to win the SBK world championship and Moto GP. Nowadays italian bikes are most beautiful and nice to ride. The BMW is a good bike but has no taste. Try and ride a Guzzi or a Ducati before writing down the usual racist stereotypes. Moreover, when You go to the shop, You soon realize that Guzzi is much cheaper than BMW (in fact almost everything they have on the test R1200 is "optional").

[stevenv1992]

@mattneur

Thats not a racist comment.

You can have relatively poor production QC and still make great race track bikes.

Why have Ducati employed an ex-Audi German engineer charging him with matching Japanese quality levels - where he admits they are not quite there.

BMWs problem is they over engineer.

[c53204]

@mattneur For a touring bike, you want reliability. The Guzzi screen broke during the test. Having owned a Guzzi I would not want another. After many years they are still producing great character bikes, but with terrible electrics - why won;t they learn!

[mattneur]

@c53204

But have You ever had a BMW? I am just planning to change my bike, I own a Ducati Monster right now and I would like to try something more comfortable, I'm getting old, unfortunately, although I know it will be hard to leave my Monster... anyway I talked to several BMW owners and they all "complained" (in truth they were almost embarassed telling it) several malfunctions (minor electrical accidents, ABS not functioning and so on... Therefore I would really like not to waste my money

[c53204]

@mattneur Owned a 650GS for a while. Never had any issues. Can't comment on any BMW model after 2006, but they have to be better than a Guzzi for reliability and comfort.

[oleshotokan]

@mattneur Go try the BMW...I have one and done 10000km on it...its a wonderful bike, no probs, fast and easy to handle.

[talissin]

@c53204 Guzzi is doin his best with his low resources.

[alexzaharcu]

how can you guys compare a Moto Guzzi to a BMW, or even a Honda for that matter? the end result of the test is no surprise.

[zaph0dbeeblebr0x]

@alexzaharcu because people not in know may be looking at both

[spidiq8]

@alexzaharcu The Guzzi is a tourer, those big lumpy carrier things on the rear, (panniers) and fairing give it away, the Honda and the BM are also tourers, they are all the same type of bike, that's why and how they can compare one to the other.

[empireday]

Great review - needed to be longer with more information. Thanks.

[powersliding]

honda's engine is so quiet

[seroyer2]

I guess its because these bikes are made for long distance rides.

[TCRSreloaded]

R1200RT = 5 series, K1300 GT = 7 series. so 13Gt >> 12RT. but of ocurse both are great.

[Fromatic]

that looks like a perfect bend to practice cornering, you can see right across and know theres nothing coming if you run a little wide

[HazeGreyAndUnderway]

how cold is it? you guys dont seem to get much snow

[animal100000]

PMSL its been snowing over here on and off for three months :)

[NoFukinNamesLeft]

Well the south of england is pretty mild but recentally it's been pretty cold but about 35F.

Still got snow up here in Scotland :(

[julingy]

they hardly get any snow, BUT there cold is different then say in canada. since they have higher humidity the cold cuts through clothing layers easier

[passwordresetisbroke]

Its because we brits are a nation of pansies, if it is below about 14 degrees C then it is cold, and we bitch, if it is above about 23-25 its a Heatwave and we bitch :D

Canada cold would be unimaginable for the average brit.

[HazeGreyAndUnderway]

ahahahaha :D

[passwordresetisbroke]

lol I assumed you were canadian due to Julingies post :D

Whats the weather in Illinois?

[resomer]

AHHHH they are using the wrong side of the road!! someone has to tell them quickly or they'll probably die!

;-)

[kolab123]

@resomer

hehe :)

I'll tell them..:)

[mr1night]

LMAO,,,,,

[AndySV1K]

Bit of an abrupt ending, could you not tell us why you think the BMW is the best? come on give us a clue!

[powersliding]

@AndySV1K guess its in the mag

[MarcS4R]

gotta love mcn :)