Important F2L Algorithms For Intuitive F2L Users

[XcodXx200]

thanks helped alot

[magicswimmer1]

Will anyone add me on Skype and help me with my solving?? My Skype is swimman15

[jawbreak1r]

for 0:35 when a single edge is flipped, i personally prefer

R U' R U2 F R2 F' U2 R2

[MasterQuestMaster]

1:52 Very nice sexy move ^^. I, personally, love the 3x RUR'U' for edge in place and corner above facing up :)

[ZebMacahan]

You're the man, man.

[Hyrtsi]

1:00 and 1:31 you could use EJF2L after correcting the "bad edges". A lot faster than placing the last edge-corner pair and OLL - it does both in like 14 moves. Algs here: cube.garron.us/MGLS/I

[LeftHandedCuber]

In response to everyone that says these algs are intuitive.

[LeftHandedCuber]

Not to be a total jerk but if u practice these algs over and over again and u know how to recognize them then you don't have to check your position and where the pieces are and waste time thinking, and just do the alg. Then you can be way faster, and be able to look ahead with way more ease

[DeathMastha]

Great video! Really, I been searching for a video like this ^^ . Thanks! :D

[edwinsmartyo]

I don't want to watch your videos because you make so many mistakes. I'm scared i might learn the hard way around.

[KarlosStudios]

1:45 Why don't simply do mirror case(L' U2 L' U' L U' L' U2 L2)?

[theWestonian]

@KarlosStudios You could. RU algs are generally better for right handed people though.

You could still use the LU alg if you had it in the FL slot though.

[StreetMagicTeacher]

@theWestonian

Hello, I would just like to ask if Dw and Dw' moves are as bad as cube rotations (y and y'), because I've noticed that every time I execute a Dw move my fingers get in the way of the turning layers and this slows me down quite some bit. Thank you in advance for your help!

[BeeLuvr]

@StreetMagicTeacher Yes, it's a rotation. Technically, a rotation is when the centers move.

[Dulema]

I've been using one I made. R U R') (F R U R' U' F') (R U2 R' U') (R U R' a lot of moves but you can do it pretty quick.

[KarlosStudios]

When you have a edge in slot un-oriented, you can do this algorithm

R2 U2 F R2 F' U2 R'UR'

Is A LOT easier than the one you showed

[jacobEhandyside]

most of your algs dont save moves than just pure intuitive? why are these better

[Pulseczar1]

Do you know these algorithms from all four sides?

[michaelfivez]

Mot of these are intuitive no? At least I already do 70% of those algorithms without ever having learned one

[entertement]

at 2:13 R U R' U2 (sexy move), R U R' U2 R U R' U' R U R' much faster algorithm

[5BLD]

I normally use roux, but these certainly will help me for the few times I use CFOP one handed! (I do f2l on the left two handed)

[SharkRetriver]

lol some of these algs i already use "intuitively", but ones taking out another slot no. Thanks for the algs!

[D4RKY3000]

plz help me...i suck at F2L I dont know how to pair up and insert from multiple angles... so where do u get the algorithms for multiple angles?Also I got a problem first I have to look for the corners then I put it n the "UP"face if they are at the bottom... after that I look for its edge then...I move the corner in the correct spot so that I can apply the algorithm...and finally I use the algorithm...what am i doing wrong?plz help I need to know a way to pairing a inserting pairs really fast

[dowsing4it]

@D4RKY3000 Im a noob too in the same position. Watch Badmephisto's videos, esp. "tips for practicing f2l." Basically just practice practice, practice slow, practice, practice more, practice slower and keep practicing. I think that's the way to do it. But deliberately practice f2l like bad says, dont just keep solving as fast as you can over and over.

[watthefrack02]

i think tere is somehing wrong with no. 11

[watthefrack02]

@watthefrack02 d R' U' R) d' R U R'

for no. 11

[cubing222]

@TheMister007spider Description (sigh)...

[cubing222]

@TheMister007 Description (sigh)...

[TheMr007spider]

which cube u use?

[blackzabbathfan]

should i learn these in one shot or in one at a time

[dakki12345]

man.. your really helping me alot right there.. i stoped cubing for 2years because im frustrated in F2l.. im so slow in f2l.. but im returning now.. and now after i watched your videos... i beginning to see some light.. :-) thanks man..

[blackzabbathfan]

hey guys, little F2L trick, for the case where the edge is flipped and the corner is in place, find an open slot, bring the corner of the open slot, do this R U R' U' F' U' F or any flipping alg and then put the corner back

[purplethig1998]

i hate lowecase D's :(

[rubiksgh3]

if you do intuative f2l, dont you not use algorithims?

[BigBossHuntelaar]

@ theWestonian

at 5:05 , if you dont have te E layer complete ( 2nd row) you could also do an E turn , until there is an unfilled one unter your corner, than you can insert the corner just like

RUR'. I would do that in this case , even if E turns are not so fast, but you need to have a free slot in the E layer

[Ashanmaril]

In that first edge piece flipping algorithm, couldn't you also do R U' R 2U F 2R F' 2U 2R? It does the exact same thing, and it seems to be easier, and have the same amount of moves.

[TheMagnusgp]

At 2:12 you could use: R U R' U2 (R U R' U') R U R

It's pretty fast and allows you to do look-ahead a bit better than with the algorithm you show :)

[GbOrDt]

i agree with what your saying definatly dnt learn them all at once or your brain will burn haha. just make it a gradual process. takes weeks not days to be a champ lol :P check out my vids to :D

[CubingGymnast]

For 3:45 I like to put the corner over the slot, and hold it in the back right. Then I do U2 R' U R U R' U' R. The reason I like this, is because I am not good at L's.

Thanks for the algorithms where the corner is in wrong. I have just been taking out the pair, and separating it, and matching it again, and putting it in. Your algorithms are much faster. :D

[BallPythonsRule]

i'm pretty new to cubing (since christmas) and am not a very fast solver, by any means, I was just wondering, is there a way to do F2L that is entirely algorithm? i'm not a very intuitive solver (heck, the slowest part of my solves is the cross, lol)

i know i may not be ready to do F2L, but, im just trying to gain knowledge.

[xxoxia]

@BallPythonsRule - Yes, that's how I first learned. Go to cubestation (dot) co (dot) uk and you'll find algs for every single F2L case including cases from each angle. Go to the site, click 3x3, then CFOP (fridrich), then F2L. You'll find all the algs.

[kaosmage2112]

@iamdamasta1 algorithms performed intuitively become muscle memory after some practice. They can be performed just as fast as memorized algorithms since those that are memorized become muscle memory as well

[cubesandoldstuff]

what cube is that

[naker115]

useless

[theWestonian]

@naker115 Oh really? Is that why I average sub 11?

[naker115]

@theWestonian useless, i mean the video

[N6688846993]

@naker115 yeah bitch, is that why he averages sub 11?

[zenclinkz]

thx for the algs. they prove to be useful

[Strakos0]

good speed

[kaosmage2112]

The algorithms you showed that were supposedly "faster" than the intuitive method are the exact same algorithms that we form on our own intuitively!

[iamdamasta1]

@kaosmage2112 possibly tho some people may not do it that exact way and I'm pretty sure even if it is intuitive having an algorithm memorized means u can do it without thinking and do it faster than if ur figuring it out while doing it

[kaosmage2112]

@iamdamasta1 eventually you are able to do it without thinking. So you get the same effect as you would if you had learned algs; only if you learned intuitively, you fully understand what you are doing. Furthermore, while it's possible to forget algorithms, it isn't as easy to forget them if they are learned intuitively.

[kaosmage2112]

f2l is probably the most fun step of solving the rubiks cube especially when done without memorized algorithms (algorithms are formed on our own)

[mynameisdarthtater]

For the case at 5:07, I'd do d R' U R U2 R' U R.

[chaosboy418]

or u could take the pieces out and turn them to how they should be ? :)

[TheWickex]

@chaosboy418 It takes a lot of moves and time.

[chaosboy418]

@TheWickex ino i can complete the cube lol

took me ages but i can finaly do it.

[NatratAtattat]

0:40 couldnt you just do R U R'U' 3 times (that gives you an F2L pair) and then do R U2 R' U2 F' U F'?

[theWestonian]

@NatratAtattat

But that's slow.

[endcuber]

@theWestonian sub 11 would be awsome for me

I am only sub 30

sub 11 is awsome

[keenan150]

Thanks mannn After watching this I got my first sub 30 on first solve of the day! (29.14) Ty, I haven't learned all the algs yet but so far I'm doing ok with 2 look and the 2 or 3 I've learned! (alternative methods are faster [intuitive] for me) it's just like 2 or 3 that take a long time even with open slots. Ty, time to watch cube collection lol

[armadini14farts]

do you still use these algs?

[mynameisdarthtater]

For the case at 5:22 I like R2 u R U R' U' u' R' U R'. If you can track pieces through that you win a cookie.

[flanginaflan]

for the mirror case which you use U L' U' L U' L' U' L I prefere (y') d R' U' R U' R' U' R because I prefer my right hand and you solve the slot in its conventional place

[mayangplong]

nice one tnx

[rpotts1]

for 4 I use U R U' R' U' R U' R' U R U' R'

I find it very fast a mirror it to BR, FL and BL

[azraef94]

after i got all the first 2nd layer what should i ddo???what should i say..???

[Crushland1]

Thanks for the vid, about 5/6 of my solve is f2l :o

[ilikechess1]

for the first case you can do R U2 R' U R U2 R' U F' U'F

[xLazyxCorex]

anything without an R2 or L2 should already be common sense to a speedcuber in intuitive f2l.

[DaijoCube]

Dude, this is like the sum of all F2L that I needed :P Thanks a lot!

I've started practicing intuitive F2L and I've gotten very good except for some of the cases you showdd

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@DaijoCube Haha, so you know how to insert all 164 cases without a cube rotation? :P Lol well, its a big number, but is not that hard if you learn intuitively. If you learn all the cases with algs you find online your screwed.

[DaijoCube]

@IPwnAllAndLeaveNone Dude :P I do it intuitively, but I learned some algs for difficult cases! I'm not so into learning algs these days. I'm trying to learn more OLL, but can't find the courage to do it seriously :P I'm just solving and practicing Look Ahead.

[sirdamien248]

do you have to know all of these algorithms?

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@sirdamien248 Depends if you want speed

If you want to get under 25 sec average, then yes, and other algs for F2L (along with 78 algs for last layer, and learning how to make the cross efficiently).

If you just want to be able to solve it in under 3 min then no.

[monkeyzNdogz]

are cubesmith stickers good because I see you use them

[skatercuber4life]

another algorithm 4 first case is R,U',R,U2,F,R2,F',U2,R2 9 moves not 11. 3rd is R2,U2,R',U',R,U',R',U2,R' 10 moves not 11. 2:57 case is F2,U',L',U,L,F2 6 moves not 8. Good algorithm @ 4:00 thats the 1 i use.

[bluecloe45]

westicles

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

i suck...i get bout 2 min on average...im 11...

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@IPwnAllAndLeaveNone Lol now (after 3 months) i get a 29-33 sec average depending on a good or bad day

But i still suck lol.

[jayrome23cobre]

What cube do you use??

[artlleshi123]

for the case at 2:16 i use U R U' R' U' R U' R' U R U' R' . it is very finger tricky

[guitarherothre]

Where would i get the edison cube?

[zaheercronicious]

My average is 36, Im a loser, Im 12 and from Malaysia, this vid helped and thanks, when did u start speed cubing, westonian ??

[AnimeFreakGiggles]

@zaheercronicious ur not a loser. my average is 50 sec. and im 15. been cubing for 2 and a half months. so compared to u im a loser

[zaheercronicious]

owh....ok then im not a loser i guess..anyway I think U can do better

[Kokufuu]

For the first case I use this algorithm:

R2 U2 F R2 F' U2 R' U R'

It is a bit shorther...

[SnowedTiger]

Speedcubing algs should not have F...

[theWestonian]

It depends on the context of the F

[Kokufuu]

Yes I know but in this case it isn't bad I think. I do the alg like this sometimes (its the same):

R2 U2 y' R B2 R' y U2 R' U R'

Btw can I ask what is your avg? Just for intereset. Mine is around sub37 nowadays but I'm geting close to sub35.

[theWestonian]

Me? or snowedtiger?

I average 13 seconds

[SnowedTiger]

Average 21 :p I suck at Fridrich...

[Kemokeme]

how do u get oll pll so fast??? i do 2 look but still i take pretty long

[MikamiHero]

Just keep learning more algorithms and practising them over and over again, until you find the most efficient method of executing them =].

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@Kokufuu Shorter doesnt mean better :P

[6jiggy]

For the case at 2:15 I'd normally use R' U' R U' R' U R2 U' R2 U2 R. So you basically bully the far F2L pair out of their slot to pair the two new pieces up and then insert them before re-inserting the other pair...I dunno, for me that feels more intuitive!

Brilliant video, I learnt a lot! Thanks!

[mackychloe]

as i'm a beginner & still using the layer method i cant really critisize but it appears your reading the algs from your notes of screen & not using hand-eye memory. but atleast you put the algs onscreen unlike many of the vids on tube. good vid!!!!

[theWestonian]

I am reading the algs from a screen because I never ever ever learn algs from letter names.

I learn them all by feel so I cant recite the letters.

[mackychloe]

good answer! i'm the same, i can do layers purely by hand memory but i cant get my f**king head around the advanced stuff!

[peterpanlid7]

AWESOME dude thx a LOT this is my next thing i need to improve on. this will probably help me get more sub 20 solves thx!

[TheMaxx6299]

You have a couple of differences between what you say and what is on the screen but otherwise a very good tutorial, good job, and thank you

[vietprid321]

i was confused at first b/c blue looked like black in some parts and i thought they were diff colors

[MikamiHero]

Nice tutorial =] 5 stars

[TroyKoochin]

Dudes, thewestonian is a man of wonder...You didn't figure out the algorithms yourself right?

[carcaparkour]

i say that if all u learn is Algorithms for evry thing solving the cube is usless cos all ur doing is foloing without thinking so i say folo ur Intuitive and find the right ones to suit each one of us maybe its faster but the wole point of cubing is fun no? and doing that in ur own time thinking

[theWestonian]

maybe that would be true if you dislike learning algorithms, but i dont.

also, learning algorithms for me doesnt make it any less fun. for me, the fun comes with the satisfaction when you get a good time, and also, if youre going to compete, if everyone else is learning these algs, then you have to also in order to keep up. :) but thats just me

[carcaparkour]

it makes ur brain work better if you learn them yourself :P

just kidding i understand ur point

[fona24]

for 10, you could also do

(U) R U R' U2 R U R'

way easier to fingertrick

i usually start from the corner being on the ULF Position, so white (if its your Cross-Colour) is facing me, so i don't mind the U at the beginning.

[kolraz]

Very useful, thanks very much.

[MrWarpspawn]

what if i'm not an intuitive user?

wat if i just fallow my heart?

[theWestonian]

you should try to have a more variety of cliche statements.

[VisithThailand]

to be honest these algithorms could be figure out but thanks anyways

[RandomNewb]

For the last algorithm, you said "d prime" when there is no " d' " in your written description or in the video subtitle.

Just a heads up that's all.

Good job on the tutorial, for me, when I learn algorithms, I break them up into pieces and look at the patterns that the pieces I'm changing makes which helps me memorize it easier. Perhaps you could tell your viewers the same.

See you next time!

[gogoteca]

@RandomNewb badmephisto has a list with algorithms already broken into similar pieces :D

I know your comment is 2 years old, just helping others lol.-

[RandomNewb]

@gogoteca word. i forgot alot of my plls and forgot alot of these f2l's so im w/e XD. it also helps that west demonstrates it though. people learn differently. i like seeing it so i know how its done, then looking at the algorithm itself and doing it repetitively

[boiswatching]

for 1:40 case do R2 U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R'

[shahmirboys]

very nice vid man.. keep makin them

[TellerWest]

You might enjoy U' M U' (R U M' U R') for the very last case (13).

[xxetfownsxx]

hey what cube are you using it looks really smooth

[MortenArborg]

It's an Edison Cube.

[thisuraj]

WOW!! GREAT VIDEO

[labmut11891]

Great vid!! I've been looking for something like this! Thank you!

[niklausio422]

i knew a lot of the algorithms where the edge was solved and the corner was above it. thanks for the tutorial(s)! they help a lot!:)

[Yalower]

For the first case, if you have three edges oriented in the last layer, you should always put the unoriented one at FR. That way you'll have all the edges oriented for OLL :)

[Yalower]

My bad, I meant FU.

[theWestonian]

haha i know

but thats for a different video :)

[baseballrg]

Lol, F U. Do you not like him? :P

[BeasltyFry]

case number 12, is one of my fastest and FAVORITE cases to perform during my F2L

[C4tchO]

lol 2:10 :D

btw very helpful tutorial, thanks!

[bafeli]

For the 3rd case, I use

R U R' U' R U R' U2 R U' R'

Hope it helps... Keep up the awesome vids! :)

[comface]

My f2l is horrible (see my video) but hopefully these will help. I've tried to learn them from paper before but got too confused, gave up and forgot about them. Now I have this vid, I'll watch it until I can work them out and perform them. Cheers!

(stuck on ~45 seconds at the moment)

[JasonJRY]

kl vid, i realli luv the asthetics of ur cube =p

[Catlicker101]

The 4th case, i find has a smoother alg. ..

(R U R') (U2' R U) (R' U' R) (U R')

Hope that helps someone. I find this one smoother and faster and easier to remember.

Great vid, West..keep em coming! ^_^

[RookieN08]

anyway this helps me a lot :) Thanks 5/5

[RookieN08]

thanks but now I am stuck at 20sec average of 12

[theWestonian]

for getting past 20 seconds, just work on looking ahead on f2l

turn slow enough so you dont have to pause at all during the f2l

thats what i did

[monkeydude1313]

This is the first comment to stop all the noobs who want to yell first. TheWestonian will thank me for this comment.

[theWestonian]

SECOND!

[monkeydude1313]

DAMN YOU!