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  • its cant be done. We train it two hours... no one was faild after this funny down-knee punch.

    And they was forgot, that attacker will slash and beat knife over and over again...

    They always stoped their hand when they feel they cath...

    real funny :)

  • Of course it's an Asian teaching martial arts.

  • OLD SCHOOL

  • on second thought i'd just run away ^_^

  • this would work just fine...it's just that you have to be an exceptional martial artist for that to be true. lol

  • He was just in move when he press the knie thats because he fall down. Very good.

  • Nine times out of ten this will get you seriously cut. He pulls the hand with the knife close to his body. The opponent only has to rotate their wrist a little and you are bleeding your life onto the floor.

  • NO BODY OR AN ACTACKER WILL DO THIS SO SLOW USING A NIFE. THAS IS NO TRUE

    REALITY IS VERY MORE IN A HIGHT SPEED.

  • I'm not convinced you'd get enough power through the hand to knock his leg out like that. But I've never tried it soo... maybe I'm wrong.

    Totally foreign move to me actually.

  • wi iz it da chavz alwayz wit da nives

    racizm innit

  • One always strikes the nearest target, not the farthest target like shown here. If the attacker is aiming for the nearest target (right side -- not left) then he will hit his target because the defender isn't moving that (pivot on right side doesn't move right side, it moves the left side). So yes, this is either a crappy technique or a very poor demonstration of it.

  • dont work

  • very bad technics , impossible to stop a fast knife attack in real combat situation because a knife -specialist doesn't use such "long range knife attacks" but direct , short, an very fast attacks

  • @amaranthe1000 true

  • @amaranthe1000 You need to remember something. When you are fighting on the street it is often against very sloppy and brutish people (compared to properly trained fighters). Very few "specialist" decide to attack people for no good reason. Its like saying karate is a waste of time because someone will just shoot you. The technique is not useless, simply one of thousands you "may" never use.

  • @amaranthe1000 but if someguy tryes to mug you would probably work

  • @amaranthe1000

    true

    it may work in a street fight where the guy uses very big movements to try and cut your body

    but it's still unlikely you'd be able to catch it

  • @amaranthe1000 Almost all criminals are sloppy with knifes,guns,fists. Most people in general don't have a refined combat skill. There are some tight movements that if mastered can stop a "knife -specialist" .

  • @amaranthe1000 you make them to do long range knife attack, easy

  • Very impractical.

  • This is good for someone trained, but for anyone untrained, if they got the person down to the ground, the assaultant could possibly get their knife in your side. Jussayin.

  • I think he should have gone in with a groin strike. Its alot safer.

  • if someone wants to learn how to defend himself or herself against a knife, Kali should be good because it teaches you weapon sensitivity.

  • If you look properly at this defence it's a bit suicidal. He "deflects and moves to the side "catching" the knife arm with his left arm and then does a take down. At this point the blade of the knife is against the defenders left side and then belly. The attacker is now moving in a downward motion (although I don't think an attackers lead leg with all the weight on it could be taken away with a little hand chop as shown) and what you got is somebody disembowling himself. Too slow with counters

  • I actually used this takedown against a wrestling in Army Combatives the other day. It actually worked.

  • He can just as easily punch you in the back of the head when you do this, or even worse, he can trip the back of your knee too, placing you on the ground, and him on top with a knife......... Just run, or control the wrist. Don't try to take the whole body by shifting your momentum until you have control. You're setting yourself up to fail, and I've SEEN this happen many times in real life... Go practice it with a plastic or wooden knife and ask your partner how easy it is to follow up!!

  • Primary defence against any assailant: Run away. If you can, it's usually the smartest option :P

  • If you can dance or move aside with lightning speed, you will survive, however, when you're an average person, physically, you need to know one move: Grab the knife hand and crush the attacker's wind-pipe with the free hand. (period)

  • A person should really practice several different scenerios and be ready to devestate the attacker to the point that said attacker will not get up until he/she is carried off by an ambulance crew or coroner.

  • L0L @ Commentary

  • Do u have to yell when u do it

  • Whether it works or not is debatable, but what is for sure, is that for any knife defence to work, the hand with the knife in has to be struck hard inflicting as much pain as possible, then disarm the knife away quickly. The initial interception has to be quick before the attacker draws back for a second thrust... This time knowing, that you know some kind of defence that you're gonna try again.

  • Right after he takes them down he says "AAHHH YYEAAHHHH!!!"

  • this one actually works if you do it just right

  • @EGPMH i used it against a burgler that had entered my house it worked pretty well

    and he pissed his pants haha

  • i rekon you would have to be really strong to knock his leg out though and the attacker is slow as if he really wanted to stab him i doubt the guy would have time to move to the side

  • i like it.. common attack, one flowing move to end it. i know everybody says " if the guy is a trained knife fighter..." well, if he is then you will probably get cut or killed. that is the odds, knife beats empty hands, long stick beats knife, gun beats both at a distance. but the odds are your opponent is unskilled with a blade and comes in "icepick" style or a belly lunge. best to train for both in my humble opinion. much respect..

  • i would rather grab the arm as he did , turn like he did, but rather kick then trying to bend his damn leg with you arm... A leg is 3 times stronger then the arms.

    Dont go hating on me , im just saying, i thought this was a little TOO much.

  • @NaJk93

    Where and how would you kick? With the hand behind the knee he's using his momentum pretty well.

  • @yared94 im saying using this against a person who isnt made of rubber ( knows the technic ) is useless, cuz ur arm isnt strong enough if he holds his possition, yes i know he is pulling him, but 1 step back and "oops" 

  • looks nice, but its totally unrealistic... jackie chan style, lol

  • This move will get you killed.

  • this wont work in reality

  • I like how you guys think you know more about knife fighting then these proffessionals. Shut up and enjoy the videos losers.

  • @MySaviorservant so your retort is that they must know becasue they are professionals? That doesn't even address the weaknesses in the technique that people are commenting on.

  • @MySaviorservant I enjoy the art of these videos, but they just aren't realistic... if you want realistic knife defense watch Paul Vunkak. He'll explain why this just doesn't work.

  • @drMerkwuerdigliebe You are right. The first rule of knife fighting is don't get into one. The second is that, if you absolutely, positively have to be in a knife fight, then you'd better expect to get cut. So buy yourself a pair of gauntlet.

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  • this looks really nice but in real life situation i doubt this will ever work unless you have somehow trained your eye/hand/body coordination for months against this exact type of attack....

  • Stamp that foot down !!!

    And don't forget to kick your leg out when you fall !!

  • lol if the knife attacker is fat just run awey xd

  • @THEpillows100 As a wrestler youshould know that this "take down" would NEVER be effective against a resisting opponent.

  • bets technique RUN!

  • The guy just needed to turn the knife inside and flex his ellbow to distribute that instructors innerts all over the place.

    The only save way to survive vs someone, going berserk with a knife besides running away, is locking his arm with both hands. it even needs to happen simultanously for both hands or he may pull back and cut you. So don't be stupid and just run, whenever you come in this situation.

  • Yes, because a guy will go down that easy if you simply place your hand on his leg. Let's stop the dangerous spread of bull shit please. This move might work, there is a variation of ippon seoi nagi which is similar to that leg hold, but much bette,r this thing is just shit and will get you killed.

  • @RightWingCon81 Don`t wanna burst your bubble but there are plenty of techniques that can take you down and out even while looking naive or ineffective look at some demonstrations of Masaki Hatsumi too get a better picture about it. Or just find someone who trains ninjutsu and ask him for a demo but it could hurt that way.

  • @alx989 Oh stop it, just stop it. Ninjitsu? Are you 7? Still believe in magical ninjas? Why are there no ninjitsu practitioners in MMA? Ninjitsu isn't used in law enforcment or military. WHY? Because it's bullshit.

  • @RightWingCon81 Just one question did you ever have just one sparing training with a half-skilled ninjutsu master? I did and I hade my ass handed to me so fast and in such hummiliating way... you wouldnt bellive it.

    P.S. I am a muay thai and wrestling practitioner so give it a thought( 2years m.t. and 4 years wreasling)

  • @alx989 maybe you just suck.

  • @RightWingCon81 always possible but there are few sparring matches that say diffrently and there is also a this thing that I go complitly berserk when I have adrenalin rush and feel pain so its not ease too take or keep me down without geting injured it was ``crazy``.

  • id rather do this to an inward slash/stab to make use of the rotation, still very interesting

  • The defender does not really get out of the line of attack. Since nothing is forcing the attacker to keep his arm straight, the knife can still reach the chest with enough force (even by accident!). This can work but I would not rely on it, moving outside is a safer bet than staying inside.

  • IGNORANCE is our worst enemy (just for negative stupid comments)

  • wow guys. it might look like a pathetic a** technique, but if you drilled this (or Anything) a million times, you'd never get stabbed by someone comin in low like that. people say the same sh** about double-leg takedowns and how they'd never work or you'd get knee'd in the face, but look at pretty much any mma fight. its not the technique that doesn't work, its how much you practice it before you can actually use it

  • @nateisgreat1134 A double is a technique with actual leverage at work. You grip the legs, drive you whole body, that will take someone down, a hand to the knee will not, sorry, you're wrong.

  • @RightWingCon81 wtf are you talking about. there are plenty of takedowns that "work" if timed and done correctly, and just because one of them looks way easier in a demonstration like this, doesn't mean it won't work in real life. i understand thats its a little unrealistic looking that he just smacked his leg and the guy fell, but it also doesn't mean you have to do the technique Exactly like this, but its just showin the jist of how it works. you wouldn't know unless you had it done to you

  • @nateisgreat1134 Tell you what, I'll try this move during randori on Saturday. I'll have it tried on meand if it works, I'll give this guy props, but the position just doesn't look right. Also, why wouldn't you show the move full force in a demo? I mean, it's supposed to show you how to do the move. Perhaps if he were facing away more and had a better grip of the arm like the ippon seioi nagi varition Kimura used to use.

  • @RightWingCon81 lol like i said, its not something you just "try" because you saw it, you use it when you have it practiced and the timing for it is perfectly set up. i honestly wouldn't use this if i was attacked with a knife, but i'm just sayin, don't bash the video just cuz it doesn't look realistic. i know where everyone's coming from, but until you have a pansy lookin technique like this done to you in person, you never know how it'll work out or how effective it can be

  • So...if that rear knee strike doesn't work....

    Your back is to the opponent...he then grabs you round the neck and slashes your throat...lovely

  • i learnt this move in ninjutsu a few years ago, i have used it a couple times on the streets

  • @MrGuachipei no u haven't

  • @telmac899 i don't care if u believe it or not, but be sure i have

  • Doesn't look too bad to me (reminds me of Silat). Couldn't you sweep with the right leg instead of using the right hand (like an Osoto Gari). I might play around with this one in class and see what I come up with. The idea of it doesn't look too bad though. Just a humble armchair assessment...

  • lol lemme tickle his leg and he fall down!

  • @ThinkerMister11 this take down is used in shuai jiao; and is not just a "tickle", it is obvious you have no clue what is going on here

  • wow you know you're dissing Sang H. Kim right? Look him up mr genius.

  • @Fyzzikz

    Look HIM up??

    Why not look at what he's actually putting up here??!!

    He might be the greatest TKD master of them all, but this video is total lame!!!

    The attacker is attacking in a way that noone uses, and he's striking at the empty space by Mr. Sang and not AT Mr. Sang. And then we have the 'finger sweep" behind the knee... which MIGHT work only at some TKD beginner...

  • but the guy is lunging forward and being turned sideways so hes not really balanced on that leg, thats why he does the circular motion, to remove the balance and use them mans weight to topple him.

  • @fund4ment

    LoL, yeah right.

  • Nice

    But it be more effectiv if you put the raight leg behaind your attacers ragiht foot.

  • wary nice well done.I will be adding this to my pratice session this weekend

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  • @Curatalo506 this would take any prize fighter down, even without the hand because youre not ripping is leg away but unbanlance him by rotation, the hand is actually just to make sure

  • @Cyb3rus have you ever done judo? This will NOT work against a resisting opponent. I do BJJ and Judo, and understand leverage well, this is just horseshit.

  • @Curatalo506 Take down comes from the movement of the body. The palm hitting the ankle is to establish connection. This looks a lot like Daito Ryu or Hapkido techniques.

  • @Curatalo506 it was an example and he hit with the forehand. When he thrust the knife that deep he through himself off balance and only a light-medium hit would take him down. I've knocked over people with very little effort whenever they threw too hard a punch or threw themselves off balance.

  • @Curatalo506 You, my friend, are a FUCKING MORON, it's the Momentum of his Body, the ControL of the Knife Arm, and OFF-Balancing him, then the Armbar, SHERLOCK, if you knew, u wouldn't be talking shit, why don't u just do a VIDEO of an EFFECTIVE Knife Takedown, instead of Shit Talking, especially when your shit talking is ILL-INFORM'd..................

    The Effectiveness of a "technique" is always dependent on the IndividuaL, if you can make it work, it works, but if you can't imagine it, don't

  • @SaffuriousOne ,

    To be able to defend against the knife you have to know the knife.

    This man Kim doesn't know the knife obviously. I haven't been training in the FMA long, but I have tested quite a few styles against knife-attacks. The knife is just too fast for these kind of moves. Problem is, it just has to graze you to hurt you. And beside that the attacker still has another hand with which he van strike and grab.

  • I hate how the attacking guys in these kind of demonstrations always already aim away from the center line and don't pull back the knife quickly. This move alone would cut 80% of the wannabe knife defence gurus here on youtube to shreds!

  • Kinda true, but against an amateur knife attacker, this could work. Usually trained knife guys would pull back quickly like you speak of.

  • @smoothhoopinal

    :-) Would you risk using this on someone who you estimate as an "amateur", just to find out you were wrong - and bleeding ;-)

  • @grozde

    That would suck

  • @BenX74 irl a master would be fine , we the "fans"of the master would just bleed to death :))

  • @BenX74 They did aim for the center line. Side movement away from the center line is taught in every form of weapons training. Also, thrusting-retrieving is two short tempos, while side-stepping and grab, if done right, is one tempo. Of course different people perform differently. These are the kinds of arts you need to practice for years to be marginally useful. Glock is more practical.

  • @ChaohsiangChen Unarmed skills are always with you.

  • @newtubetubetube I'd rather not to be unarmed!!!!! ;-p

    Besides, I suck at martial arts stuff. It's hard.

  • @ChaohsiangChen thats why you gotta practice

  • @newtubetubetube Unless you don't have arms.

  • @Fjerid You would be surprise to see what can be done with hand tie in the back. Same would apply for someone with no arms. Beside, how using weapon will aid someone with no arms?

  • @newtubetubetube Good point... you always have your legs, however, arms are great for balancing yourself after you throw a kick.

  • @BenX74 How come idiots always comment that same silly argument all the time, get a clue. It a fucking demonstration, they are showing something, at low speed with pause on key point. It is obvious they do not train like that.

  • @BenX74 i dont think he's missing the center line, the guy is moving out of the way, but you do have a bit of a point (badoom-psssh!) about the draw back of the knife

  • @BenX74 No offense, but I feel that by showing simply one defense tactic, they are hoping for us to analize it, and learn THE BASICS, upon which we are to develop OUR OWN STYLE of defense/offense.

  • @BenX74

    even the hand holding the knife was not hold firmly ,the attacker just have to turn the wrist and the Sifu will be cut badly in the side.

  • @BenX74 yeah i dont even trust these demos because ANYTHING could happen. The only way i could probably trust any of these guys is if they would have footage of themselves in an ACTUAL knife fight.

  • @BenX74 I agree, accept if the attacker tries to deep/death stab the victim. Then the technique might work. Besides, even though in (your opinion) this drill or person is flawed doesnt meen the method isnt useful. It just depends on a series of factors: environment, timing, person whos executing it etcetera. The technique itself is irrelevant compared to these factors.

  • @BenX74 I agree, accept if the attacker tries to deep/death stab the victim. Then the technique might work. Besides, even though in (your opinion) this drill or person is flawed doesnt mean the method isnt useful. It just depends on a series of factors: environment, timing, person whos executing it etcetera. The technique itself is irrelevant compared to these factors.

  • @BenX74 exactly. if you're going to attack with a knife in training at least aim at the proper spots and ACTUALLY try to hit them. it does the defender absolutely no good if the attack isn't even going to hit anything. if its not going to hit then why bother blocking it in the first place.

  • @BenX74

    +1

  • @BenX74

    +1

    never saw so bad technique

  • @BenX74

    +1

    never saw so bad technique, if you try this a day, you will get the knife in your stomach...

  • Interesting.

  • i love watching the guy fall down but very useful indeed.. 5/5

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