This isn't a kata, but surely this is the "I-form". Although today's I-form is a little bit different. Firstly the blocks. Today's blocks initiate with the fist of the blocking arm coming down, from the cheek. And secondly the turns: Today's turns initiate with the rear leg crossing behind the lead and then you pivot the torso. Other than those two differences nothing else has changed.
FARCE- In no way shape or form is this Gichin Funikoshi. Footage is too new and enhanced to look old, besides, this is not the style he taught at all. As a long time student of Tsutomo Ohshima I will verify that. What person would try to create such a farce and for what stupid reason?
@52canada yes yes u know what I mean. wooden, like wood, like a tree which is not flexible at all. got it now? (my english can be improved, but my knowledge of martial arts remains. watch shaolin monk: THOSE are fast, strong AND relaxed movements)
@doddoso woody movements? ok what style you do tough guy ? you do know that gichin funakoshi combines shorin ryu and shorei ryu to create shotokan right ? yeah it took 2 styles from okinawa to create shotokan and shotokan was born in Japan , its a good Japanese martial art
@TheShotokankarateguy yes, wooden. I'm not tough, but if you see my channel I have a video that may show how I know martial arts energy etc. I had my hand stomped by a 110kg man, then I played guitar. (you can make fake with thin bricks etc, but a big man on your hand is a big man on your hand).
Definitely not Gichin Funakoshi. I am assuming this was taken from a video copy of the original film. For this footage to be correct it would have to be shot circa 1890-1905. The quality of this film is to high for this. This is also beforeFunakoshi went to Japan and before his son Gigo introduced the deep forward and horse stances which are predominant in this footage.
I'm sorry to say, but I do not think that there was television in Japan before the prototype in 1926, Unless this was invented and recorded by someone other then Kenjiro Takayanagi(which I doubt). By the quality, I speculate, this was recorded at least in the late 1930's and even could be as later as even the 1950's. Probably not Gichin Funakoshi. It would have been more widely known if he himself had recorded these.
@MeanEyedCats Well, it could be possible that this was recorded with film before they had the technology to make it widely viewable. I don't know. I'm just being skeptical. It is supposed "award winning" footage, and I've seen many authentications of the footage being him.
I'm leaning more towards: It may be him, it may not. Either way, this is historical footage.
Que decepcion!!!! este personaje es un farsante, otro pirao mas en el mundo del karate-do, da pena verle hacer karate con tan poca tecnica y cordinacion de movimientos.cinturon blanco imagino, menudo payaso
Heian Shodan is how Itosu named it. It's said by most people that it is Itosu the father of modern Karate. But I don't have knowledge to agree or disagree.
first thanks for your reply, sorry for the slow reply. Personnally i don't have any footage or pics of funkoshi shihan from that period so i can't say for sure, however i do have a modern reprint of 'ryukyu karate kempo', (first edition 1926) it contains no photos of the kata but hand drawings together with text, authored by funakoshi. the main differences that i can determine are the width of keba-dachi and the lack of stamping after the step.
io faccio karate shotokan da 7 anni..ma perchè a confronto di funacoshi noi stiamo + bassi?..e anche lo shuto è diverso..la mano è appena + su della cintura ed in centro...perchè queste modifiche????
pratiki anche tu allora ;-) ..pultroppo sento sempre commenti stupidi sul karate..tipo fate finta di combattere o fate arte da circo coi kata..ma serve a difendersi?..magari provate poi vedete..
anyway the traditional karate rocks and i think anything we know from funakoshi is great for our mind and spirit.. Tekki Shodan is one of my favourite kata, i often do it in competitions.. :x
Has Tekki Shodan changed from the way it was taught in former times?, because when master Funakoshi comes to the first Kiai his right hand goes back to his hip to make an enpi but i think in nowerdays you make a (in kata slow) block with your hand.
I'm amazed at how rigid his Kata is. Today we're taught about the flow of the Kata, keeping low and centred but it wasn't like that at all. His Gidan burai often didn't even go low enough. It's all changed so much i just wonder how much of it we've lost
I noticed the same thing. Also, his Zenkutsu-dachi is almost as if he was standing normally. Probably, this video is pre-shotokan. I know that he made many changes when he created his own style, like changing some kata's names, moves, etc. That must be the reason of the differences.
In truth, Gichin Funakoshi changed little things from Shurite: he kept the Zenkutsu as it used to be, he changed the Shiko-Dachi into the Kiba-Dachi, and changed two or three techniques.
It was his son, who was physically handicaped, who made all the changes that made what Shotokan looks like today. He couldn't do the Shurite Znkutsu, so he made it a low position, etc...
Common Shotokan today doens't look anymore like what G.Funakoshi created in the first time.
I think you're mistaken with regards to Y. Funakoshi being handicapped and making changes to the kata. He had tuberculosis but was not physically handicapped. In fact, he was a very strong, athletic man and would often subtly change kata to make them more physically demanding. He is responsible for a lot of how shotokan looks today, but that is because shotokan is a physically demanding style the way that he liked it!
I noticed the same thing. Also, his Zenkutsu-dachi is almost as if he was standing normally. Probably, this video is pre-shotokan. I know that he made many changes when he created his own style, like changing some kata's names, moves, etc. That must be the reason of the differences.
Is that Egami Sensei for sure?? I have seen some Shotokai videos of Egami Sensei.. He is much diferent than Shotokan and flowing... But, the person here is so rigid.. May be this is before he founded Shotokai..
공수도란 일본을 대표하는 타격계 격투술로써 일반적으로 가라데 로 불리고, 세계적으로는 karate 라고 표기한다....그러던 것이 오키나와 무사집안 태생의 기친 후나코시 (FUNAKOSHI GICHIN)가 명치시대에 일본 본토에 처음으로 가라데...Aoki Class of Karate
U a Kyokushin or a Goju boy Josh? Pinan sono ni is what Kyokushin calls it, i also think it gets called Pinan Nidan in both Goju and some Kyokushin dojo.
*_*
TheJosisf 4 months ago
Great karate. Great music :P
ChewbaccaFan2087 5 months ago
He is fantastic
academiadragaopnn 6 months ago
Karate for life!!!
MrLillywhites 6 months ago
è un falso nn è lui
io faccio karate e a quei tempi non esistevano le videocamere infatti guarda un po ce l'interferenza proprio sulla zona della faccia!!!!!!!!
agrabum 6 months ago
This isn't a kata, but surely this is the "I-form". Although today's I-form is a little bit different. Firstly the blocks. Today's blocks initiate with the fist of the blocking arm coming down, from the cheek. And secondly the turns: Today's turns initiate with the rear leg crossing behind the lead and then you pivot the torso. Other than those two differences nothing else has changed.
Tfliprex 7 months ago
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ThEaWeSoMe924 6 months ago
@Tfliprex It's called Heian Shodan and it is a kata.
DraconionDevil 5 months ago
Funakoshi had higher stances. Possibly due to the fact he wasn't tall himself. Nowadays SKA stances are much lower.
MajinSaha 7 months ago
one thing i find odd is the video is missed up just at the face level, that smells alittle fishy to me.
toxi87 8 months ago
luckily a log didn't go floating down the river up top side... otherwise his karate days would have been over.
uminchu7th 9 months ago
FARCE- In no way shape or form is this Gichin Funikoshi. Footage is too new and enhanced to look old, besides, this is not the style he taught at all. As a long time student of Tsutomo Ohshima I will verify that. What person would try to create such a farce and for what stupid reason?
JimCaronArtist 1 year ago
why he is gonna hit you
bejakabyle 1 year ago
Go go go, old man, - hit the floor.... :)
123HimbeereisMitReis 1 year ago
Gichin Funakoshi spent 3 years to learn Tekki shodan, nidan and sandan katas.
cassavaeater 1 year ago
I'm savin this to favorites , this video is rare
TheShotokankarateguy 1 year ago
japanese martial arts JUST SUCK. LOOK AT THOSE "WOODY" MOVEMENTS! IT'S EMBARASSING!
doddoso 1 year ago
@doddoso woody movements? who taught u that word? your master? bro.......... if your master sucks, then what does that make u bro
52canada 1 year ago
@52canada yes yes u know what I mean. wooden, like wood, like a tree which is not flexible at all. got it now? (my english can be improved, but my knowledge of martial arts remains. watch shaolin monk: THOSE are fast, strong AND relaxed movements)
doddoso 1 year ago
@doddoso woody movements? ok what style you do tough guy ? you do know that gichin funakoshi combines shorin ryu and shorei ryu to create shotokan right ? yeah it took 2 styles from okinawa to create shotokan and shotokan was born in Japan , its a good Japanese martial art
TheShotokankarateguy 1 year ago
@TheShotokankarateguy yes, wooden. I'm not tough, but if you see my channel I have a video that may show how I know martial arts energy etc. I had my hand stomped by a 110kg man, then I played guitar. (you can make fake with thin bricks etc, but a big man on your hand is a big man on your hand).
doddoso 1 year ago
@doddoso ....what are you racist?
pokemonfanrock1 1 year ago
@pokemonfanrock1 dude, you're in the wrong video, wrong channel and maybe wrong SITE.
doddoso 1 year ago
What music is put here on this video? Please help anyone?
wojtek0711 1 year ago
What is the music in the back ground?
wojtek0711 1 year ago
Please note that the person doing the Heain kata is wearing glasses. I have not seen a photo of Gichin Funakoshi wearing glasses.
spacecadet35 1 year ago
Definitely not Gichin Funakoshi. I am assuming this was taken from a video copy of the original film. For this footage to be correct it would have to be shot circa 1890-1905. The quality of this film is to high for this. This is also beforeFunakoshi went to Japan and before his son Gigo introduced the deep forward and horse stances which are predominant in this footage.
spacecadet35 1 year ago
I'm sorry to say, but I do not think that there was television in Japan before the prototype in 1926, Unless this was invented and recorded by someone other then Kenjiro Takayanagi(which I doubt). By the quality, I speculate, this was recorded at least in the late 1930's and even could be as later as even the 1950's. Probably not Gichin Funakoshi. It would have been more widely known if he himself had recorded these.
Gwisss 1 year ago
@Gwisss I suppose in theory it could have been Ginchin Funakoshi's son, Gigou...?
I won't even speculate though.
MeanEyedCats 1 year ago
@MeanEyedCats Well, it could be possible that this was recorded with film before they had the technology to make it widely viewable. I don't know. I'm just being skeptical. It is supposed "award winning" footage, and I've seen many authentications of the footage being him.
I'm leaning more towards: It may be him, it may not. Either way, this is historical footage.
Gwisss 1 year ago
somebody tell me, what is the name of this old school techno song? amazing sounds :D
sebastiansongo 1 year ago
@sebastiansongo I agree but still I dont know the title of the song here
wojtek0711 1 year ago
@sebastiansongo I found it finally my friend! This song is called VISITORS perfomed by italian synth pop band KOTO.
wojtek0711 1 year ago
este funakosi es un esperpento que no tiene ni p.. idea.da pena ver su kata este no sabe ni pinan shodan
basilioveredas 1 year ago
Que decepcion!!!! este personaje es un farsante, otro pirao mas en el mundo del karate-do, da pena verle hacer karate con tan poca tecnica y cordinacion de movimientos.cinturon blanco imagino, menudo payaso
basilioveredas 1 year ago
Karate ni sente nashi, los que sabemos quien fue te perdonamos tu ignorancia, cuando realmente quieras aprender Karate-Do, tienes nuestra invitacion
31Morpheo 1 year ago
lol weird music choice.... i met shihon... :) 3rd generation
karategirlnamedalex 2 years ago
Music totally doesn't go with the footage, but I love it lol
Shindai 2 years ago
I'd be embarrassed to show the last guy doing Shodan to my students, that is if I thought for one second he was Funakoshi..lol
pat13wx 2 years ago
that kata at the end is called haidan shodan...........is thats how u spell it
turddestroyer 2 years ago
they spell it heian shodan
PanicusVulgaris 2 years ago
Heian Shodan is how Itosu named it. It's said by most people that it is Itosu the father of modern Karate. But I don't have knowledge to agree or disagree.
saulocpp 1 year ago
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Funakoshi..what a shithead..!!
acerwk 2 years ago
Looks like Funakoshi performing Tekki, but someone else doing Heian Shodan...maybe Obata, judging by height and build....
mallardgreen 2 years ago
I agree with Winterdenni. this video looks like a fake. there appears be quite a few fake videos of Funakoshi sensei knocking around you tube.
jimbrazendale 2 years ago
There is a marked difference between the two movie parts.
The first part (until 0:29) might be authentic.
The Tekki Shodan is done very well and it obviously doesn't contain any Kōkutsu-dachi, only Kiba-dachi.
ramzahnY 2 years ago
hi,
first thanks for your reply, sorry for the slow reply. Personnally i don't have any footage or pics of funkoshi shihan from that period so i can't say for sure, however i do have a modern reprint of 'ryukyu karate kempo', (first edition 1926) it contains no photos of the kata but hand drawings together with text, authored by funakoshi. the main differences that i can determine are the width of keba-dachi and the lack of stamping after the step.
jimbrazendale 2 years ago
the book is available from the JKF/champ web site if you want to obtain a copy for yourself.
ps. the name 'ないはんち' is used for the kata not 'てっき' (naihanchi/tekki)
jimbrazendale 2 years ago
It a pity that this footage is neither of Funakoshi, nor is it from the 20s.
It's especially obvious, considering that Kokutsudachi as it is shown here wasn't introduced to Shotokan untill the 30s by Gigo Funakoshi.
Winterdenni 2 years ago
ahhhh Im glad our shotokan more evolved! That looks ugly. But hey, it's where we come from ...lol.
shotojojo2005 2 years ago
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No good!
acerwk 3 years ago
io faccio karate shotokan da 7 anni..ma perchè a confronto di funacoshi noi stiamo + bassi?..e anche lo shuto è diverso..la mano è appena + su della cintura ed in centro...perchè queste modifiche????
yocotobigeri 3 years ago
perchè lo shotokan che pratichiamo noi è frutto degli studi e modifiche fatte dal figlio del maestro Funakoshi e dal suo allievo Nakayama.
redtommy83 3 years ago
pratiki anche tu allora ;-) ..pultroppo sento sempre commenti stupidi sul karate..tipo fate finta di combattere o fate arte da circo coi kata..ma serve a difendersi?..magari provate poi vedete..
yocotobigeri 3 years ago
so stiff
ajaben 3 years ago
Is Tekki SHodan and Heian shodan!
AuganBoour 3 years ago
stupid techno music
soparamens 3 years ago 26
@soparamens do you know the title of this song?
wojtek0711 1 year ago
l'art du karaté a l'état pur
SaintMaidenLynn 3 years ago
That Heian Shodan was great, as well as that Naihanchin
Dustkicker009 3 years ago
anyway the traditional karate rocks and i think anything we know from funakoshi is great for our mind and spirit.. Tekki Shodan is one of my favourite kata, i often do it in competitions.. :x
marmotzel2007 3 years ago
Rest in Peace Gichin Funakoshi.
UndeadTurk 3 years ago 11
il migliore di tutti
amicoclub 3 years ago
The first kata was naihanchi shodan...
lepivert 4 years ago
Tekki Shodan
mojn2k 3 years ago
Naihanchi = Tekki
DGrieux 3 years ago
who is the asshole who shined the shoes?
PAB66666 4 years ago
Wow lightning speed!!!!! I practice Shotokan and can not do kata half as fast.
BhuddistPeter 4 years ago
la musica e n'ammerda pero e Gichin
SOnOSaNDro 4 years ago
Has Tekki Shodan changed from the way it was taught in former times?, because when master Funakoshi comes to the first Kiai his right hand goes back to his hip to make an enpi but i think in nowerdays you make a (in kata slow) block with your hand.
Thanks for helping
(excuse me for my bad english)
Petayoshi 4 years ago
yes..i guess so..the shtokan today..it after the JKA..so Nakayama changes the kata practises
redtubb 4 years ago
I'm amazed at how rigid his Kata is. Today we're taught about the flow of the Kata, keeping low and centred but it wasn't like that at all. His Gidan burai often didn't even go low enough. It's all changed so much i just wonder how much of it we've lost
ickleoli 4 years ago
What music is this?
glfth 4 years ago
I noticed the same thing. Also, his Zenkutsu-dachi is almost as if he was standing normally. Probably, this video is pre-shotokan. I know that he made many changes when he created his own style, like changing some kata's names, moves, etc. That must be the reason of the differences.
KSchwarz 5 years ago
In truth, Gichin Funakoshi changed little things from Shurite: he kept the Zenkutsu as it used to be, he changed the Shiko-Dachi into the Kiba-Dachi, and changed two or three techniques.
It was his son, who was physically handicaped, who made all the changes that made what Shotokan looks like today. He couldn't do the Shurite Znkutsu, so he made it a low position, etc...
Common Shotokan today doens't look anymore like what G.Funakoshi created in the first time.
ChatonJoyeux 4 years ago
I think you're mistaken with regards to Y. Funakoshi being handicapped and making changes to the kata. He had tuberculosis but was not physically handicapped. In fact, he was a very strong, athletic man and would often subtly change kata to make them more physically demanding. He is responsible for a lot of how shotokan looks today, but that is because shotokan is a physically demanding style the way that he liked it!
mooseven 4 years ago
Must be a move that changed some time ago!
khema71 5 years ago
In the end of Heian shodan in this clip, when the presentor got to the second KIAI, he does Kokutsu dachi instead of Zenkutsu dachi. Why??
ItayKenny 5 years ago
I noticed the same thing. Also, his Zenkutsu-dachi is almost as if he was standing normally. Probably, this video is pre-shotokan. I know that he made many changes when he created his own style, like changing some kata's names, moves, etc. That must be the reason of the differences.
KSchwarz 5 years ago
I also hv the same question of ItayKenny.. Why he went into Kokutsu for a Tsuki??
aiko4321 4 years ago
he didnt notice his stance were off..he thought he;s king of the world.
redtubb 4 years ago
Senior Egami
khema71 5 years ago
Is that Egami Sensei for sure?? I have seen some Shotokai videos of Egami Sensei.. He is much diferent than Shotokan and flowing... But, the person here is so rigid.. May be this is before he founded Shotokai..
aiko4321 4 years ago
...this is funakoshi and this is how shotokan karate is
seanaus2008 3 years ago
Tekki is from Funakoshi, but Heian is not Funakoshi
aiko4321 3 years ago 2
공수도란 일본을 대표하는 타격계 격투술로써 일반적으로 가라데 로 불리고, 세계적으로는 karate 라고 표기한다....그러던 것이 오키나와 무사집안 태생의 기친 후나코시 (FUNAKOSHI GICHIN)가 명치시대에 일본 본토에 처음으로 가라데...Aoki Class of Karate
NatassiaAoki 3 years ago
This Heian shodan performance doesn't look like it is Gichin Funakoshi. Anybody know who it is?
ronin4242 5 years ago
tekki shodan and heian shodan by Master Funakoshi himself: amazing !!!!
Jazzz777 5 years ago
That is tekki shoudan and heyan shoudan, but they don`t look the way we do it in Shotokan today.
Interesting...
Derukugi2 5 years ago
The first one seems tekki shodan isnt it
tharidu 5 years ago
U a Kyokushin or a Goju boy Josh? Pinan sono ni is what Kyokushin calls it, i also think it gets called Pinan Nidan in both Goju and some Kyokushin dojo.
zenchido 5 years ago
I dont think Goju practice Pinan.. It's Shuri-te kata and practiced in Shorin.. It came to Shito Ryu, Shotokan throught Shuri te :) Thnks
aiko4321 4 years ago
Good ol' Pinan Neidan
joshuaworden 5 years ago