I have heard literally dozens of recordings of this piece, and this Talich quartet is beyond awful. It is weak and emotionless. Like I said, look at the score. This piece is one of the most intense, dynamic and, savage pieces Beethoven ever wrote. Someone posted Talich playing op. 95 and they played the same way... wimpy, weak, lifeless, passionless... They must be the worst quartet in the world...
@filmguychris i agree. i heard this piece before played by another string quartet. in this interpretation there's simply no "power" or "feeling" which beethoven probably intended.
Absolutely terrible performance; one of the worst I ever heard. They play it weakly,as if it is a little Mozart serenade. The score is littered with forte and fortissimo marks and they ignore every one. There is no fire! This is one of my favorite pieces... what a shame. Listen to the Guarneri quartet's CD to hear how it should really sound...
@TheMagicBolt A 'serenade' is light, airy piece. 'Serenade' comes from the Latin word 'serenus', meaning "peaceful, calm, serene". My point was that this quartet group has a light, airy sound (I used the word weak, which in reference to Op. 133, it is). I meant no offense against Mozart and his serenades. A serenade is fine for a serenade, and I love K 525 as much as anybody. But Op. 133 is not a serenade and should not be played as such. That is what I meant.
Ab der 4. Minute hört es sich einfach unverkennbar nach dem Rondo aus dem 4. Satz der "Neunten" аn! Ähnliche Reminiszenzen wie bei der 32. Klaviersonate op.111, nur mit dem Unterschied, dass dort das Scherzomotiv des 2. Satzes der "Neunten" еxakt antizipiert wird. Genial!
I have heard literally dozens of recordings of this piece, and this Talich quartet is beyond awful. It is weak and emotionless. Like I said, look at the score. This piece is one of the most intense, dynamic and, savage pieces Beethoven ever wrote. Someone posted Talich playing op. 95 and they played the same way... wimpy, weak, lifeless, passionless... They must be the worst quartet in the world...
filmguychris 3 months ago 2
@filmguychris i agree. i heard this piece before played by another string quartet. in this interpretation there's simply no "power" or "feeling" which beethoven probably intended.
TheDardanius 3 months ago
Absolutely terrible performance; one of the worst I ever heard. They play it weakly,as if it is a little Mozart serenade. The score is littered with forte and fortissimo marks and they ignore every one. There is no fire! This is one of my favorite pieces... what a shame. Listen to the Guarneri quartet's CD to hear how it should really sound...
filmguychris 3 months ago
@filmguychris Talich interpretation is, on the contrary, certainly one the best you can hear as far as musicality is concerned.
longuemar 3 months ago
@filmguychris what do you mean by a little Mozart serenade?
TheMagicBolt 3 months ago
@TheMagicBolt A 'serenade' is light, airy piece. 'Serenade' comes from the Latin word 'serenus', meaning "peaceful, calm, serene". My point was that this quartet group has a light, airy sound (I used the word weak, which in reference to Op. 133, it is). I meant no offense against Mozart and his serenades. A serenade is fine for a serenade, and I love K 525 as much as anybody. But Op. 133 is not a serenade and should not be played as such. That is what I meant.
filmguychris 3 months ago
Grazie per questo!
gvolts28 3 months ago
Ab der 4. Minute hört es sich einfach unverkennbar nach dem Rondo aus dem 4. Satz der "Neunten" аn! Ähnliche Reminiszenzen wie bei der 32. Klaviersonate op.111, nur mit dem Unterschied, dass dort das Scherzomotiv des 2. Satzes der "Neunten" еxakt antizipiert wird. Genial!
Loge84 9 months ago
ci voleva proprio! anche a me era venuta l'idea di fare il video ma mi hai anticipato! :)
ThomasLigre 10 months ago
In quel soggetto controtempo c'è tutto il pulsare del sangue della modernità urlante sulle tempie di Ludwig.
marioguidoscappucci 10 months ago
this is a reaaaaaaally great post :D
newFranzFerencLiszt 10 months ago