TSD SD 45-a.k.a-UMP Firing Report

[Silentblade001]

hop up is wonderful right???

[0001Noah]

Holy fuck, for god's sake adjust your hop-up.

[bassandguitargreg]

hmmm sounds like that gearbox needs a short stroke, shimming, and an upgraded spring.....

but sweet lookin!

[ninetailedhollow5]

was that a cow in the beginning?

[brtchida]

can a supresser be attached to it??

[nerfkid117]

@brtchida yes his gun is cmpatible with ares ump silencer available from zero one airsoft

[LloydLockness]

I'm thinking of actually getting this gun, and I'm very new to airsoft. I like the ump45 in actual video games and reviews of this airsoft gun have been more than reassuring that I won't be disappointing in getting this gun. Is there anyone who's has a bad experience with this gun and if so what? Also any tips on what to get seeing as I am completely new to airsoft, though I have played paintball quite a few times.

[Silentblade001]

@LloydLockness i have this gun, its really good, actually right now im looking at upgrading it :D

[Mangoe11]

@LloydLockness I'm thinking of getting it, too. It seems like it's great.

[cheepofilms]

could you tell me what website you bought this from was?

[warrior26cts]

@cheepofilms you can get this at evike.com. Search "DE/TSD M89 UMG." It should be about 130 dollars

[leftyairsoft]

ajust the hop up try agian

[comradeairsoft48]

he guys look at red dragons airsoft firing test he has hop up adjusted and he has a fully charged battery:) to see the true potential of the gun check out the vid

[triggerhappybullets]

i agree, you need the hop up ajustid

[GwarsuxFtw]

so what hes saying is semi auto is really acurrate, but due to wind he cant shoot it?

[airsoftplayer543]

Could this fit a 9.6v battery in the compartment?

[MrRocque]

you guys have to remember what the role of this 'smg' is, close quarters....its not intended to run around the woods sniping ppl, or support fire over some river valley. Its intended as an easily wielded, confined spaces assault weapon. It wasn't intended to be hitting ppl 100 ft away. CLOSE, tight spaces, room to room, not all the way across the parking lot. You want more out of it, buy a G36c for $40(33%) MORE, and you get more. Remember, its not an assault rifle, its a sub-machine gun!!!.

[MrRocque]

and the inner barrel is only 205mm, compared to the G36C at 257mm, that's 2 inches less, and in airsoft, that's a lot of lost power. So at 340 fps, for that short barrel....the TSD G36C only rates UP to 370 fps and 800 rpm. (all comparisons were TSD numbers)

[lepordgekomaster]

i think hop up needs a little adjustment

[l311a]

thats because most of the guns that TSD makes all have high tourqe gears, and motors. My TSD G36k, has a 9.6 nunchuck battery and only shoots 19-19 rounds a minute

[prinstonn3]

i play indoors at golden eagle at discovery mills mall its awesome

[TheZivo]

@prinstonn3 OMG ME TOO *High five for people in georgia*

[trumansnare]

Yea it can't shatter like a car window or anything like that. But it shatters beer bottles and an old scanner that I shot at. lol

[trumansnare]

What I meant by that was, most guns that have a FPS in the 300-350 range have a much higher ROF than that gun. (since the spring isn't to strong the motor can pull it back faster)

But 340 isn't that strong. My gun is 400-430ish and it will pierce the bottom of a can and shatter glass. I cannot play in any arenas with it, but I use it for woodland play (great range)

[trumansnare]

For a gun with only 340 fps, it sure has a low ROF

[jedijoey5]

its a realistic ROF its what the real life gun actually shooots

[inkbot2000]

does the hop up suck or did he just set it wrong?

[tac0pwnage]

what kinda bb whieght is he using?

[theTROOPER1945]

i have an idea to accurately test the gun without wind effects. test indoors.

[kamakazi423]

i was just thinking tht lol

[cnvshs]

dude u dont rele play airsoft indoors its not fun with out the outdoors

[OSU5312]

I don't think I've ever heard a worst sounding gearbox in my life.

[FunkyJuiceMan]

I'm a noob when it comes to airsoft and looking to buy this gun as a first. Can you put a silencer on it? What is the best battery it can handle or should i just buy a second of the same kind???

[AirsoftinGamer]

yes you can put a silencer on it but dont buy this gun get an echo 1 or jg as a first they are alot better than double eagle and are still cheap

[DONUTskii]

you had 9 out of 10....90% you only missed the 4th shot on the 75 ft marker.

[timqqqzxc]

may i know , where you put the battery?

[HaloHedgehog22]

It goes in the back when the stock is folded. There is a little door that you have to open.

[xboxlivegstar66]

why do u use chrome coated bbs nt so lite ?

[fun4me23]

so why not do it in side?

[maxgator3]

can a 9.6v 1500mah stick battery fit in this gun???

[Sypran]

9.6s dont fit without mods, (like no door cover) and that means you should not have the stock folded, otherwise i have heard of custom 9.6s for these umps, but have heard mixed reviews of them

[AirsoftinGamer]

that would completely destroy the gun

[Armyman1751]

The reason why the BB's go off course is because it's a UMG. UMG's are mostly meant for CQB missions. Also its a fairly weak gun compared to other guns like my G&G SCAR. That can fire at a target about 100 feet away and it was windy and still the BB's hit the target 9 out of 10.

[TEXANMTB]

Your reports are pretty good and so are the reviews, but just saying you have to remember that these accuracy test actualy arnt that accurate cause a human is alot bigger than that target so you actualy might be hitting them at 150 feet but otherwise good reviews guys i like them alot and was wondering if you could send me a message on a goood run and gun rifle for around 100-150 please and thanks

[MurPaDiLos]

true, but it's better to aim small,

and then miss small.

every time I aim, I always look for a small stand out on the other person's uniform and aim for that.

such as the patch on the shoulder, or a shotgun pouch flap on the front of the vest.

[IrishRaver03]

If you read this; can you do another part of the firing test that includes HOP-UP switched on please? Im trying to get the hang of adjusting to it and would like a more.. professional? opinion

[Kristian2164]

the accuracy is pretty good on this gun, i might get it, might upgrade it, but it seems fine to me

[RedneckMarine0110]

my JG G36C is better

[metallicatilldeathhh]

man that gun is horrible

[metallicatilldeathhh]

you blow fag

[JROD9496]

It shoots kind of slow for a smg airsoft gun on full-auto.

[jackel410]

sounded like the battery needed to be charged. I just got one and its fires much faster then that.

[Dircshnaider]

Thats because the real ump has a low rate of fire

[JROD9496]

Then why is a UMP a smg when it shoots really slow. I know smg's shoot pistol rounds, but most of them have really high rates of fire.

[Dircshnaider]

Because it fires .45 acp and if the rate of fire was higher the recoil would be annoying.

There is also another version which fires 9mm but the mag on that is curve

[kurtzsoftair]

This gun is something like the M£ grease Gun, which could use both Thommy .45 ACP magazines and MP-40 9mm magazines, just making a little modify in the bolt.

However I'm gonna buy this gun, i love it. It's smaller than a G36 but it has the same range. The only one problem is the magazine, a bit long. Hope there is also a low cap version smaller

[kurtzsoftair]

oops sorry i meant M3 not M£( i kept pressing shift lol)

[kurtzsoftair]

Cool!!! Very good range!!! Can someone tell me when this gun will arrive in Europe??

However very ggod review

[rikiki17]

Is it the double eagle UMP?? or an other brand?

[kjsh987]

buy a real one kid

[arrdvark3]

real guns hurt really, really badly when you get hit by one. they aren't very good for playing with either. dumbass...

[monstergaragekid]

you should consider contacts, dude. It makes wearing goggles a lot easier. Also, your breath won't screw it up. Just a tip.

[insanity54]

You should try shooting indoors to eliminate the wind issue

[OSU5312]

yeah but r u going to play airsoft inside?

[insanity54]

Sure, why not? The UMP would make a great indoor gun.

[OSU5312]

b/c airsoft is for realism where ur OUTSIDE but in cqb u r inside some

[insanity54]

You can be indoors and still be realistic. CQB is just a type of combat, that doesn't mean it's any less realistic. I've been to dozens of games where there is a SWAT or MOUT theme to them. The players are the SWAT/Military/whatever and the opposing forces are made up of actors who are not playing like the other team, but rather acting as hostage takers/terrorists/similar. Airsoft Pacific does bi-yearly competitions that are set up like this, with the field being a building they rent for a day.

[insanity54]

Sure, not all CQB games are realistic. For example, you get the "paintsofters" who play indoors with the inflatable "bunkers" and play speedball...

[OSU5312]

thats called paintball

[insanity54]

Yeah you get the guys that paintball that get into airsofting, but they don't change the style of play, they only change the guns they shoot. That's a "paintsofter" :)

[xmodfreak2011]

SMGs are not made for long outside distances. They excell in close quarters firing. So, it would be real to shoot them inside like special forces and tactical law enforcement.

[bannanaization]

but this is airsoft.

[ilikepie779]

i would get a g36 better accuracy and i guess range too

[FastLebron]

jg g36c or this?

[Elemoe2]

GET THE UMP g36c is depending on what brand but if metal it is very heavy and uncomfortable. also its iron sight

is terrible.

[Doomguy123]

g36c

[wtfasiankid8o8]

wow, i was stuck in this same rut as you. trust me, you'll want this. its much better.

[CaptCamping]

is this the double eagle rebrand?

[Stealthmaster14]

yes it is

It's a pretty decent gun. Get a new battery though, the stock one gives the gun a dreadful ROF.

Personally, I would look into a different gun. If you are looking for a UMP and can't afford the G&G, it's fairly nice. (just get a new battery) My friend, who has this gun, hates the high caps though, so you might want to find some others.

hope this helps

[Stealthmaster14]

Also, this gun NEEDS a reshim/regrease out of the box. (My friend's works fine, but it really should be reshimmed/relubed)

I really suggest you look into another gun unless you are set on a UMP. (G&G sportlines are the best guns under 200)

[AirsoftPaintball94]

no it was designed to be used as more of a close range weapon most likely cqb because the velocity is under 350

[OSU5312]

another reason is beacuse of the folding stock

[airsofter12345678910]

alright this thing sucks

[FastLebron]

what gun would you reccomend in the same price range then?

[CircusAndVincent]

a KWA G18C

[Zezimax93]

evike. its about 120-150 dollars

[FastLebron]

no offense but i doubt you have a better gun

if so post a video on it or don't hate on someone else's video

[ghillierecon]

the hop up isnt adjusted very well

[gruzergrub5000]

man that gun has a low rof lol sounds like a dying battery or something

[CMC121TC]

That's because that's how its supposed to be. Mags for Rifles, SMG's and clips for Semi-Auto Pistols.

[Joebari192]

yes but there are internal clips for the lee enfield rigle in wwii

[streetgangtm]

actually almsot everything uses a magazine. a clip is for an m1 garand, or bolt action rifles that use stripper clips. sks's also use stripper clips and there are others too.

[jimthehappymonkey1]

Good review as always. Very impressed with how well the mag feeds for a high cap!

[wepper5]

WHat FPS is it?

[lumbermilljack]

ball speed - feet per second

[brienno1]

does it matter wat u call it magz, magazine,and clips

[liaeff19]

where can you find extra clips for the ump

[CMC121TC]

It's called magazines...Clips are more of a term that people use that is incorrect

[chestinater]

your crazy

[CMC121TC]

When you learn something about real guns, hit me up

[Billiliahbrown]

how much does the gun cost??

[FRVSniperNI]

damm right good choice cause the only time i use semi is at closer range!!

[Proreviewer528]

do the ca m15a4

[1PAcouchpotato]

i wish i could find a real cheap crappy ump but i cant =(

[EvilFurby24]

Well, i just bought one on Airsplat for $100. thats probably the cheapest you'll find it. And it is almost identical to the TSD, but its made by DE (Double Eagle)

[Bazookajoe555]

get a real gun silly nanny

[TheGrandWaikikian]

Thats why I would gear up the mech box a bit, tighten up the barrel to around 603 and replace the spring with 190. And then... drive it with a systema turbo motor backed by 9.6 volts of NO FEAR!

I gurantee that target at 150 feet will make a little more noise then shown!

[moomee237]

nice

[spiceyvideo]

below on the video screen hold the video scroll bar all the way to the left, it's funny!

[AIRSOFTHURTS101]

dude when you fired on full auto, you were aiming miles high, thatys why the guns come with a hop unit :P

[nerdpower27]

I am considering getting the DE UMP M89. It is an exact copy. Have you fired it/is it good compared to this gun? Will I expect the same results?

[wtfasiankid8o8]

actually the double eagle is a version 2 of the tsd. However the only difference is that the magazine doesn't jam as much, and may/may not be important

[customkman24]

haha my gun would put a hole in that 150 ft. target!!

[VeritechSquad]

Hello, today we're going to look at the TSD SD45 *vrooooooooooooooooom*

[graemeincanada]

sweet

[HawkeyeDrifter]

Hey, if you guys only want to do full auto tests, fine by me, its your BBs, not mine.

[wiggyman1]

Cost?

[Thrash634]

What's the diameter of the circles you shoot at?

[w1zardf1ngers]

i love the ump! btw where do you all get your guns? all the ones ive got is from stores like wal mart and bass pro shop

[Jarek4]

god NEVER buy a gun from local shops unless it's an airsoft store

[pittsburgman55]

I just got that gun and it is very good fps and accirucy =)

[irideblind]

I have that exact gun and you are very right about the fps, its a very reliable gun and i definitly would recomend it

[irideblind]

I have that exact gun and you are very right about the fps, its a very reliable gun and i definitly would recomend it

[AirsoftSniper112]

where did you purchase the TSD SD 45 and Is the JG steyr AUG a better buy than the TSD SD 45 and Echo 1 G36C?

[brae25]

i have the jg g36c and my brother has the JG Aug... it really depends on how you want to play because the g36c has a higher rof and a little more fps but the aug is more accurate over longer distances and is a lot quieter.

[irideblind]

Tsd sd 45 is very reliable and accurate i have it and it still hurts when getting hit 100+ feet away

[Stealthmaster14]

I'm just saying, for the price, you can get a much better gun. If you like the UMP then go for it. (i doubt the gearbox is as stable as an e1/jg)

[blackkat7073]

what type of bbs is he using

[MattThe3rd]

Woot i just received this gun today. Im pumped to go airsofting with it this weekend. YAY! All About the UMP!

[mabrumbach]

TSD is just rebranded DE, right?

[AFKAnnouncements]

yes

[Stealthmaster14]

My friend has a DE UMP, it is not very good. The ROF is very slow. For the same price, you could buy the JG G36C (airsplat) which is a GREAT gun.

My Echo 1 G36C is a lot more accurate and has a higher ROF. (power is about the same)

[shadow99reviews]

low rof

[AFKAnnouncements]

that is true but the real steel only has 600 rpm because of its .45 round

[jefjef2]

there basicaly all the same so take your pick.

nice review i need to tell you that the system you made for testing the accuracy was a success in my book and that i really apreaciate you guys reviews

[Wil8789]

i got the same problem. i'm stuck between the JLS SCAR or the DE UMP

[DestinationAirsoft13]

UMP

[GalilxG3]

SCAR

[EUMP]

JLS SCAR

[JacobGrantTimmy]

the gun says it only has 600rpm it seemed lw but now that i finaly hear it im gonna buy it

[coldfire2227]

im going to get a tsd g36k(the tactical one). can you make a video on that one?

[NexusRev]

Get a stick/Nunchuck stick/crane stock battery. IT IS A BEEYAWTCH TO GET IN.

[airsoftjunk1e]

you guys should use the hop up intead of just aiming above the target it is a lot more accurate

[rcpeter123]

what gun uses .43 gram bb's? i use .20-.25 gram

[Assasin2041]

High powered sniper rifles

[ionfreak93]

was he using .20g?

[airsoftjunk1e]

yea they usually use .2's

[Assasin2041]

.2 is the same as .20

[shishuken]

would like to know this to! : D

i'm thinking of buying one of these

[Wundershozen]

I noticed the Battery isn't really workin' to well.

when my ump arrives I'll make sure to use an external battery pouch.

Large batts tend to last forever due to the MAh.

[gotja]

o yea can the tsd sd45 work with g&g barrel extenion? or any kind of silencer?

[DropdeadMOFO]

They don't get carried away when they are .43 G + :).

[gotja]

love ur revies guys i think your overshooting a lil cuz of the hop up. i love this gun i might get it but i dont know this might be a stupid question but tm p90 or this gun 9and more accessories)

[John234pwns]

The TM P90 is a $300 gun, is that a seriosu question?

[bogdan192]

Might want to adjust that hop-up a bit.

[airsoftgunner10]

this is a HK UMP right?

[BigWowMovies]

hey can u review the WELL P90 from airsplat?

[ZeroG84]

Rate of fire is something you don't cover in your reviews. Something about "things you can add" would be nice. Like accuracybarrels, or something. Other than those, great job. Good voice for a review. :D

[nickeisch]

wow i hate you

[marmaladekamikaze]

I love these reviews thanks!

[DropdeadMOFO]

stop calling everything "new", lol ^_^

[It8880]

sounds kinda funny..

[Germanairsofter]

You guys make awesome reviews. Do you think you could make a review of the WELL mp7? I am really wanting to see a good proffessional review of the gun.

[MJKam11]

great job once again

[henree]

deja vu man

[ga20me20]

10 degrees you mean...

[lolzomfgwtfidk]

i'm quite confused? didnt we just see this? like last week

[shadow99reviews]

thats alot of hop up

[kenton250]

didn't you already post this?

[Chase99999]

Nice vid. keep up the good work!