kvmw02's interpretation is correct. My professor wrote a detailed article piece on this ending and had the same interpretation of death and moving from one reality/existence into the next.
hey so, the sheriff is in fact wrong about everything, correct? is the point that the country has always been this way and aging has affected his perception of things? or is that open to interpretation?
"And then I woke up" refers to him returning to the real world from his dream, both literally and figuratively. In his dream he saw his father who is dead and he knew that he would see him again, as many believe they will see their loved ones again. He "woke up" and realized that he will not see him again. He's coming to terms with the harsh realities of life and the prospect that death is the end and there is no afterlife. He's realizing that there is no joyful or peaceful country for old men
Cormac McCarthy's writing is always enough to send chills through me. Tommy Lee Jones does such a fantastic job here. Hard to imagine anyone else as the Sheriff.
i think the movie is about the new generation as seen through an aging mans eyes. anton represents the complete anarchy of the new generation. also you notice how so many people were paid off to participate in something illegal, that's also a testament to the crooked new generation.
This is the only movie I've ever watched, that makes me feel like I am reading. I loved the book too. Unfortunately I saw the movie first. So the book was spoiled :(
Those of you who don't think this is about death and heaven, please explain what you think this line means: "I knew that whenever I got there, he'd be there."
Of course people will have different interpretations of the meaning of his dream, so there is no exact "right or wrong". You can't read too much into it or too little... it's as ambigious... and you take away what you put into it.. But I think what everyone is forgetting is the name of the movie... because we put people out to pasture when they get old, thus... there is No Country For Old Men... his wife didn't even want him to mess up her day!
I have dreamt of dead friends and relatives. They rarely make contact other than to let themselves be seen - often from the back - and they never look me in the eye.
It's rare that films conjure up the same emotions on a second viewing, but this one has every time and continues to do so . I think it's possible for anyone to think of their father when seeing this and how one follows in their father's footsteps in this life and whatever comes next. It's true that one can't help but to compare their self to their father and the old-timers. Jones elevates the film from action into something else and is his best performance I've seen. It chokes me up every time.
The whole movie has its motif's of money and the younger generation ultimately has its motivation for the money. Hence Anton's line "I came here the same way the coin did". The older generation has not been motivated by money. Since the newer generation is coming in with their own values, the older laws have been forgotten (No country for old men). He didn't remember the dream with the money because it didn't matter to him as much as the dream with his father.
@MagnumVFD i think the coin line is more a reference to randomness. he came there the same way the coin did- meaning events out of his or the old mans control just built up to bring them into the situation in the gas station. its not the old mans fault hes there... its just bad luck, and it might kill him. anton is basically comparing himself to a random bad happening, like cancer or being struck by lightning.
The way I see it, he mentions his father being the younger man so I think his father is representing the youth and the future simply riding on while the sheriff is the past, lagging behind. He was in a dream that the future would wait for him, that there would be comfort like a fire but then he woke up to the reality that time waits for no one.
I don't think the darkness and cold in the second dream represent death or the afterlife. They represent the darkness of this life and the life of his father before him.
Here is a hint: there are two dreams and two trees in the background. The first of each represents the path the sheriff was on. The second of each represents the path the sheriff ultimately took.
@Medafets Then that would make Michael Myers a finest version of that metaphor?
Chigurh doesn't wear a mask to cover up his insanity, he gets his kicks with mind-fucking people, like the first coin tossing scene. I'm surprised no mentioned that Anton's last name is satircally pre-nounced Sugar, which is typical McCarthy macabre humor.
He said His father walked on ahead with his head down meant that the father kept going on and 'starting a fire in the dark', meant his father never quit, and was aa true hero. Tommy Lee Jones' character feels ashamed that he gave up on persuing Javier Bardem and thinks his father will be disapointed in him for quiting and chosing the easy option (retirement) which he regrets. 'Left in the cold'.
@Pixiedustadventures yeah the fact that this discussion takes place right after he wanders in looking lost highlights that. his retirement is linked by that to the death theme in his dream. hes a man, not just him but all the men in his family, who defined himself through work. he was a lawman. its the core of his identity. the dream obviously refers to death, but the retirement is why its on his mind. losing the money in the first dream is probably a reference to "quitting" also as in retiring
im pretty sure that Bell retired/quit because of what his uncle told him, which was basically that hes wasting his time trying to clean up the area. even if he continued to pursue chigurh and captured/killed him, there would be someone else right after him to have to find and kill. it never ends, its pointless to try. live your life, think about life, enjoy what you can from it, and "put a tourniquet on it" instead of exhausting yourself over an unstoppable force (crime), represented by chigurh.
well he does use the term "going on ahead" just as his uncle or w/e in the wheelchair used to describe the way his other uncle or what not died. "going on ahead" seems to me like death. in the dream his father was going on ahead to death, and gave him hope via the dream that there is something beyond this world, something comforting.
not to sound like a douche, but who cares if the movie is about crime and peace, or life and death? the two can be tied together to a certain extent when the character talking about them is a police officer. either way, it gets everyone talking about what they feel the movies meaning is. it reminds me of people talking about a song and what it means to them. great movie, and great discussions by the people on here. i need to watch this again!
When I first saw this film, I was like what the hell just happened about the ending?I was disappointed that there was no big battle between the characters or cool gunfight like in the ending for heat! But after looking at the novel and reading McCarthy's other books he never intended the ending to be a big battle!So kudos to the characters, great acting, just wishing there was a kick ass battle at the end!
The whole movie his speech is implying that of an old man using his wisdom and intuition to uncover the crime. At the end as someone said, his intuition is telling him there is an afterlife. He got very close to dying earlier in the film because the killer in this film cannot be reckoned with, those who confront him always end up dying. His intuition could also be telling him about the lost money earlier in the film, he senses that. Strange ending.
what stumps me is the cutaway to his wife. i would assume that cut in particular is anything but circumstantial, and it probably does more to illuminate the open-endedness of this scene.
all the mythic tales of heros and villains, what drives people, and what awaits them at the end of their journey. all comforting stories to be sure. then he woke up.
all the mythic tales of heros and villains, what drives people, and what awaits them at the end of their journey. all comforting stories to be sure. then he woke up.
I just want to know if the accountant got killed that was sitting in the office across from the the guy who hired Anton...cause he asks Anton if he's going to kill him and Anton says, do you see me??
I just got through this movie for the 3rd time and I couldn't stop saying "fuck" and crying..., "I FUCKING LOVE THIS MOVIE". It seriously gets better every time I see it-- and the first time I saw it it was the best yet then.
@burgerboot Man, I honestly want you to watch this again someday-- and then again after that. It's a film that needs to be re-watched so you see it like a painting in its entirety. I'm amazed at how beautiful this sentimental movie is.
One of the meanings of the movie is that really bad shit happens, and sometimes there's nothing we can do about it, no amount of crying or sorrow is going to help.
Throughout the movie he didn't know where to stand in that meaningless violence; he couldn't understand the world he was living in, different than the world his father had knew and could understand, for it had a meaning. Now for that dream he had, we can guess he hopes for a world, somewhere, that is meaningful. The kind of existence his father once lived in and could bring it to him. Perhaps after death.
ive only ever dreamed of a ghost once. im in my 40s and normal. it was the shadows of two men in their late 50-60s and a little girl of 7-8yrs old. they seemed not their for me. i just happened to be there at the foot of my bed at night in semi lucidity. they were showing the girl the house possibly or something of that nature. it had nothing much to do with me i dont think. there was an amazing yellow and green / blue feeling of total warmth and reassurance. i still remember it to this day.
So it was raining, autumn, and there was a foot of water standing on the tilted soil where we planted potatoes earlier. And in the water there were forearm-sized red fish with white stripes. I ran in home to get a net and came back out, it was dark, the water was gone and no rain. I started digging the soil for the fish and found an electric pot full of boiling water, there was light coming out of it and used it to light what i was digging, i found more.. empty pots....
The tree's i think symbolize chance which is probably the biggest theme in the story. You have two trees in roughly the same place -one full of life and one dead. It's just like fate of the characters. Couldn't the other tree just as easily died? or even both of them? The trees sum up the entire movie in one image while Ed Tom Bell sits in the forground ambiguously discussing how he deals with the reality of that image.
I believe him losing the money symbolizes his giving up being sherif instead of hanging on to something that has been part of his family heritage.
To me the second dream symbolizes one generation using knowledge (the torch light) to lead the way and create saftey (the fire) amongst adversity (the cold) for the coming generation (Bell). His father goes by like he doesn't exist ( hasn't been born yet). Bell's father is making a save place for him in the cold for when he arrives (is born).
If anyone notices in the background some symbolism with the two trees. 1 old and dead with no leaves while the other one is full of life and its new. this ending was perfect for the whole movie. the protagonist isnt the guy who died its actually this police officer. The dreams are about him getting old and that he cant keep up with criminals like Anton. This is the perfect way to end a movie like this. Very deep and i love it.
The fire = life.. and "all that dark, and all that cold" = whatever lies beyond death; maybe the afterlife, maybe nothingness. His father was going on ahead into that great frontier and bringing the fire (human life) with him. He knew that his father would be there waiting for him when it was his time to die... and then he woke up.
The fire isn't life, but guidance in the world around him. The fire held by his father is what was left of his hope for a better, less cruel world. The ending isn't about life and death, but about how the violence in the world was getting worse, and any hope for a better world can only be in the dream world.
@readux Oh, you're saying that the directors of the film dictated the meaning of Cormac McCarthy's notoriously-multivocal work? They told us what Cormac's symbolism really means? I have great respect for the Coen Brothers, but them declaring the meaning of McCarthy's writing matters very little.
I never said that they are dictating the meaning of McCarthy's work, the Coen brothers in fact worked along with McCarthy during the whole filming process.
I'm curious, why do you think the ending is about life and death?
@readux Well, from a basic literary standpoint, cold/darkness is usually symbolic of death/afterlife, and when contrasted with the fire being carried in the horn by Bell's deceased father, I instantly got the image in my mind of the final transition from life to death. Riding into an unknown dark place to build a fire. When I originally read that scene in the book, it reminded me of seeing one campfire in the middle of the night and knowing that there must be people nearby... (cont.)
@readux (cont) Bell said about his father, "I knew that whenever I got there, he'd be there." To me, that line screams death and the afterlife. Hoping that heaven exists, that you'll eventually see the loved ones that have died. Also, a more subtle detail in the film was the two trees that can be seen behind Bell in the final scene. One healthy, one dead/dying. I'm not saying that mine is the only conclusive analysis to be had. I'm just saying you can't definitively dismiss other interpretations
But he denonces the dream at the end of fim by saying very coldly, "then I woke up". He is still the same objective cynic at the end of the film/book as he is at the very beginning, no? The film is told by the eye's of a man who once saw his world or realitly as a great place to be a part of. Note the conversation with Uncle Ellis in the film that Ed told him that felt "overmatched". Ellis tells him that the "country" has always been violent. The allegorical dream is irrelevant, Cont.
@meltz911 The passage is word verbatim from the novel by Cormac McCarthy. He is a great writer, and it is likely that he put a lot of thought into Bell's last lines in the novel (and the film).
@kvnw02 The idea of the story is that there is isn't a causal relationship between evil and progression. Bell's fixation on the "old timers" is out of reverence for their ostensible ability to maintain order (something he failed to do). The dream is the culmination of Bell's acceptance that evil has always been present (he learns about an old timer shot and killed in cold blood) and will continue to be present (symbolized by the dark) and that all one can do is to keep the fire alive
Also if you read The Road, you can see similarities between the last page "the father carrying the fire to save the world from desolation" and No country. And in the final paragraph of The Road it implies the fire is a sign that there is something to put up against the darkness, which is in fact hope. Hope in a world that isn't changing too much.
@kvnw02 i think it has to deal more with the metaphorical fire, like cormacs characters talked about in The Road. We must all carry the fire, no matter how hard the struggle is.
Lots of negative remarks about this movie. I loved it. Top 5 for me. I guess im one of very few people who understood this movie. Those of you lame mindless fucks out there that just want action and CG's, yes, this was the wrong movie for you. But hey, you can just pop in the hangover then yel be happy.
@66ott7 "I guess im one of very few people who understood this movie."
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I didn't mind the ending that much I think I liked the protagonist dying. When I first watched this movie this dumb shit sitting in the living room was all "it sucks that the guy dies." I was like thanks you fucking prick!. And I think its safe to type this here since it is titled no country for old men the ending.
This is my favorite Coen movie, and probably one of their best, but this ending sucks big time! It's so much pretentious. It's not an intelligent ending, they just try to make it look like one. The movie should have ended with Anton's car accident!
@LJ1412 The ending is more anti-climactic than poetic.. But this is one of those rare movies where the bad guy WINS at the end like Se7en, Memento and the Usual Suspects.
i think the dream gave him hope in that there would be some comfort waiting for him on the other side, which he wasnt sure of earlier on in the movie. theres a lot of layers to this scene that i doubt im smart enough to uncover easily, but that end dream struck me with that msg considering his earlier conversation with his uncle about hoping he'd find God when he got older. its very deep, its something that leaves you wondering. i loved the ending, the movie already had enough action.
I think the meaning is pretty clear. Death. The next frontier. The dark and the cold that his father was riding into to make a fire. The entire film focuses around death.
@kvnw02 focuses around Violence, and how a man is trying to cope, wondering, unable to understand how or why people are doing these kind of thing, like antons murders or the man who killed that girl. He doesnt understand, or wonders if he even wants to, hes retiring. wondering how his father, and his fathers father might have handled it etc.
The Coen Bros. know how to end their movies. They always want their audiences to feel something they weren't expecting when they walked into the theater. That's something seriously lacking today in most movies.
would of been a better ending if u saw javier bardems air gun sneak up from the window and blown tommy lee jones head off now that would off been a great ending
I wanna join the discussion of what I think the ending symbolizes but YT has a character limit and I wouldnt be able to fully express my thoughts within that limit. I thing to take note of in this scene. The two trees in the background. One is old and dying and one is blossoming and young. Just thought I would point that out. Great film, great ending, great everything.
What ending? Sugar broke his arm, followed by Tommy Lee boring us to sleep.
For winding down after work I prefer uncomplicated amusement, gore & action. This was a great movie; shame it lacks an ending: If I want realism I stay outside the cinema.
this is quoted verbatim from the ending of McCarthy's novel. The filmmakers weren't trying to be "too deep"; they were simply moved by a great book and were showing it respect.
@Jwelli19 Exactly. I think the whole movie was almost identical to the way it played out in the book. In other words, it was amazing, and the bad guy was perfect.
@gaelenfade That is just part of my opinion of what the dream means, but this is becoming incredibly long-winded and drawn out. I'm sure if you google search what the ending means, you can find some good answers, or maybe even some vids on youtube discussing it. Nevertheless, the Coen's wanted to stay realistic, and leave the ending open ended. I hope this helped you. Wasn't trying to be arrogant or anything, just trying to give you a different perspective of the ending. Good luck buddy
As for the dream itself, Bell saw the chase of Chigurh, and the life of a lawman, to be an endless, dark, circuitous circle, as he refers to darkness in the dream. He does not feel like being tormented anymore, so he walks away. It can also be seen as an interpretation for afterlife. Darkness, and not understanding it...Also, we do not know what the McCarthy or the Coen's envisioned. This could have been one of many of Chirgurh's many hitman killings, somewhere between the beginning and the end.
Once again, not a comment on your intelligence, just on how you perceived the movie. As for the dream, Sheriff Bell discusses how his father, who was also a lawman, died at a younger age than he. We see when Bell notices that Chigurh is probably in the motel, he decides not to go in and find him. He has concluded from this chase, and from his visit with his cat friend, that, despite the fact that he could have tried to capture Chigurh, it is best that he does not and so he retires.
@tjordan2021 I get it and its nothing new just folded into a modern package and seems very forced at the end like they were trying to make the audience see something so deep they would have to get an oscar. They could have presented thatype of metaphor much better without words by showing how the violence effects the environment and ages the world itself saying that in the end the world changes so much we can never go home. Its always a new country with new and dangerous men.
@gaelenfade True, true. Idk, I personally liked, and i also understand those who didnt. It's all just a matter of what you were looking for really, and personal preferences in movies...
@tjordan2021 So in effect by showing the world gets older but yet newer at the same time he could have shown their is no country or home for any of us when we are old and passive in a world thats always new and violent. The speech just forced it down our throats and was an obvious oscar grab attempt. But hey oscars make u money so i guess i dont blame them for wanting to get paid big bucks.
@gaelenfade Haha yeah definitely. I mean like i said before, i believe they also wanted to stay true to McCarthy. He put a great amount of time into the book, and they stayed so closely to it, it would have been incredibly insensitive to just go away from that vision at the end.
@tjordan2021 wasnt chigurh waiting in a different hotel room peeping through another hole when bell entered the one where moss got killed? 1 second he's behind the door, and when bell enters the hotel room, gun drawn and cocked, theres absolutely no one there and the window in the bathroom is locked from the inside. the vent was too small to escape through, especially in that short amount of time. chigurh knew that moss keeps the money in the vent, so he already took it. otherwise hes a ghost.
@vidgamer77 Yes, I agree, and what No Country is about is the ugly aspects. The fact that no matter what beauty is out there, there's also ugliness, and that can be a difficult thing to come to terms with... just because there is good doesn't mean it's necessarily easy to ignore the bad 24/7.
The opening monologue he says, I wouldnt want to "place my soul on hazard", meaning there was only so much he would be willing to sacrifice personally for his job, it simply wasnt worth it. He met his match in a cruel sadististic, unempathetic mass murderer. He gave up hope in justice, in apprehending the criminal and in himself.
He is and many portrayed in this movie are part of a dying breed, where civil order was implied, (less need for law enforecement), but that era has faded.
i am so tired of movies trying to appear profound and intelligent by making crappy endings that really dont end anything. Ever since the sopranos did this everyone thinks the "no ending" ending is a sure shot oscar winner. This movie was great until the absolutely ridiculous ending. Of course if i dont like the ending that must mean i dont "get" intelligent filmaking. Yeah right.
@gaelenfade It has nothing to do with The Sopranos. The Coen's have made some great films, so give them some credit. You didn't connect to or concieve the message they were giving, which has nothing to do with your intelligence, but there is definitely an ending. You don't need to see if Chigur dies or not, because that was not the point of the movie. If you watch the movie at face value, as a thriller, it probably does not make as much sense as if you were noticing the symbolism throughout.
@tjordan2021 i am 35 i got the symbolism and i still think the ending was lame. It was forced and contrived and an obvious desperate attempt to appear as smart filmaking. Everyone is doing the whole "deep speech you dont see what you want" ending. They think a long profound speech that ends midway will appear as something extremely deep and provocative but ultimately i saw through the attempt.
@gaelenfade Yeah i mean i see what you mean. I just feel like there was so many ways to interpret it. Plus, it wasn't the Coen's as filmakers that did this, it was Cormac McCarthy who ended his book like this, so they stayed true to his story...
@gaelenfade He sees himself potentially dying if the chase conitnues.Within this, he concludes that police work is indeed, "No Country for Old Men", as the title states. The Coen's end the movie with this dream, IMO, for a few reasons. One, because the movie is adapted from Cormac McCarthy's book with the same title, and they wanted to stay true to his work. The ending monologue is basically word for word the same as the book. Two, it works incredibly well, almost perfectly.
@gaelenfade At least, in an artistic, film making sense. Three, because the the inclusiveness of realism is evident throughout the movie. Not every movie can have a perfect ending, with the bad guy dying, or some character walking off into the sunset. This is a realistic end because, in Bell's mind, he is no longer fit to be a Sheriff, and decides to retire, not be a hero, as would be the case in a "Hollywood" movie. Life rarely has a perfect ending, so this absolutely realistic, and well done.
kvmw02's interpretation is correct. My professor wrote a detailed article piece on this ending and had the same interpretation of death and moving from one reality/existence into the next.
ptbt62 5 hours ago
hey so, the sheriff is in fact wrong about everything, correct? is the point that the country has always been this way and aging has affected his perception of things? or is that open to interpretation?
amused434 1 week ago
No! Death is supposed to just be the beginning...Life is just the trial period!
53redditheadit 2 weeks ago
Amazing ..
xTJ120x 2 weeks ago
If you have never seen a bulls horn with embers in it.. its spooky beautiful. FYI.
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"And then I woke up" refers to him returning to the real world from his dream, both literally and figuratively. In his dream he saw his father who is dead and he knew that he would see him again, as many believe they will see their loved ones again. He "woke up" and realized that he will not see him again. He's coming to terms with the harsh realities of life and the prospect that death is the end and there is no afterlife. He's realizing that there is no joyful or peaceful country for old men
Doingwork2009 1 month ago
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Doingwork2009 1 month ago
His disposition in this reminds me of his role as White in The Sunset Limited.
vgman94 1 month ago
Cormac McCarthy's writing is always enough to send chills through me. Tommy Lee Jones does such a fantastic job here. Hard to imagine anyone else as the Sheriff.
QMPhilosophe 1 month ago
We meet again 240p
pedobear2255 1 month ago
2 reasons I liked this movie?
1. The bad guy got away, unlike most Hollywood movies, welcome to real life where most bad guys DO get away.
2. The ending, no one saw it coming.
2.
TheLandOfTears 1 month ago 4
I love how the last thing you hear is the clock ticking.
shipcivic 1 month ago
One can interpret last line simply meaning his "father" would be waiting for him at the end of his life.
mdsimon80 1 month ago
i think the movie is about the new generation as seen through an aging mans eyes. anton represents the complete anarchy of the new generation. also you notice how so many people were paid off to participate in something illegal, that's also a testament to the crooked new generation.
matthewjamal 1 month ago
This is the only movie I've ever watched, that makes me feel like I am reading. I loved the book too. Unfortunately I saw the movie first. So the book was spoiled :(
pimpc1125 1 month ago
brilliant ending
sitiosanguinem 1 month ago 2
I hate it when I figure out the deep meaning of films on the Internet and when I rewatch the movie I'm like "Oh, why didn't that even occure to me?"
bombfestFILMS 1 month ago
Those of you who don't think this is about death and heaven, please explain what you think this line means: "I knew that whenever I got there, he'd be there."
ptbt62 2 months ago 5
@ptbt62 What about the next line? "And then I WOKE UP"...
ravi00090 1 month ago
@ravi00090 And then he woke up from his comforting fantasy about heaven and seeing his father.
ptbt62 2 weeks ago
Of course people will have different interpretations of the meaning of his dream, so there is no exact "right or wrong". You can't read too much into it or too little... it's as ambigious... and you take away what you put into it.. But I think what everyone is forgetting is the name of the movie... because we put people out to pasture when they get old, thus... there is No Country For Old Men... his wife didn't even want him to mess up her day!
darioalzalde 2 months ago
I have dreamt of dead friends and relatives. They rarely make contact other than to let themselves be seen - often from the back - and they never look me in the eye.
DCSIGNR 2 months ago
It's rare that films conjure up the same emotions on a second viewing, but this one has every time and continues to do so . I think it's possible for anyone to think of their father when seeing this and how one follows in their father's footsteps in this life and whatever comes next. It's true that one can't help but to compare their self to their father and the old-timers. Jones elevates the film from action into something else and is his best performance I've seen. It chokes me up every time.
Pillshatner 2 months ago
Sorry what the fuck did he just say?
192GreenDay 2 months ago
@192GreenDay lmaaaoooo yeah its kinda hard to decipher
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TheShufflepulse 3 months ago
I can't help but think that the dead tree and the live one in the background mean something.
JellyBellyDeli 3 months ago
The whole movie has its motif's of money and the younger generation ultimately has its motivation for the money. Hence Anton's line "I came here the same way the coin did". The older generation has not been motivated by money. Since the newer generation is coming in with their own values, the older laws have been forgotten (No country for old men). He didn't remember the dream with the money because it didn't matter to him as much as the dream with his father.
MagnumVFD 3 months ago
@MagnumVFD i think the coin line is more a reference to randomness. he came there the same way the coin did- meaning events out of his or the old mans control just built up to bring them into the situation in the gas station. its not the old mans fault hes there... its just bad luck, and it might kill him. anton is basically comparing himself to a random bad happening, like cancer or being struck by lightning.
adgato75 3 months ago
i want to turkich translation?
MegaIncubuz 3 months ago
@2204Alpha Did u come up with that one all by yourself?
Z71america 3 months ago
i fuckin hate this ending i wonder if anton opened a bakery afterwards
Z71america 3 months ago
@Z71america I wonder if your mother is a total festering whore?....o wait, here she comes...yup, she is.
2204Alpha 3 months ago
@Z71america You probably saw the movie as a rollicking action film, then.
Lewn42 3 months ago
The way I see it, he mentions his father being the younger man so I think his father is representing the youth and the future simply riding on while the sheriff is the past, lagging behind. He was in a dream that the future would wait for him, that there would be comfort like a fire but then he woke up to the reality that time waits for no one.
MrTurtle4444 3 months ago
Be as metaphorical as you'd like, all he's saying is, is that soon he's going to die and his father will be waiting for him.
brlloyd 3 months ago
I don't think the darkness and cold in the second dream represent death or the afterlife. They represent the darkness of this life and the life of his father before him.
tommy9922 3 months ago
Here is a hint: there are two dreams and two trees in the background. The first of each represents the path the sheriff was on. The second of each represents the path the sheriff ultimately took.
tommy9922 3 months ago
Chigurh was a metaphor for death, no matter how many times he was almost killed he always, and will always return.
Medafets 3 months ago
@Medafets Then that would make Michael Myers a finest version of that metaphor?
Chigurh doesn't wear a mask to cover up his insanity, he gets his kicks with mind-fucking people, like the first coin tossing scene. I'm surprised no mentioned that Anton's last name is satircally pre-nounced Sugar, which is typical McCarthy macabre humor.
Gunnman941 3 months ago
He said His father walked on ahead with his head down meant that the father kept going on and 'starting a fire in the dark', meant his father never quit, and was aa true hero. Tommy Lee Jones' character feels ashamed that he gave up on persuing Javier Bardem and thinks his father will be disapointed in him for quiting and chosing the easy option (retirement) which he regrets. 'Left in the cold'.
Pixiedustadventures 3 months ago
@Pixiedustadventures yeah the fact that this discussion takes place right after he wanders in looking lost highlights that. his retirement is linked by that to the death theme in his dream. hes a man, not just him but all the men in his family, who defined himself through work. he was a lawman. its the core of his identity. the dream obviously refers to death, but the retirement is why its on his mind. losing the money in the first dream is probably a reference to "quitting" also as in retiring
adgato75 3 months ago
im pretty sure that Bell retired/quit because of what his uncle told him, which was basically that hes wasting his time trying to clean up the area. even if he continued to pursue chigurh and captured/killed him, there would be someone else right after him to have to find and kill. it never ends, its pointless to try. live your life, think about life, enjoy what you can from it, and "put a tourniquet on it" instead of exhausting yourself over an unstoppable force (crime), represented by chigurh.
penal420 3 months ago
well he does use the term "going on ahead" just as his uncle or w/e in the wheelchair used to describe the way his other uncle or what not died. "going on ahead" seems to me like death. in the dream his father was going on ahead to death, and gave him hope via the dream that there is something beyond this world, something comforting.
penal420 3 months ago
not to sound like a douche, but who cares if the movie is about crime and peace, or life and death? the two can be tied together to a certain extent when the character talking about them is a police officer. either way, it gets everyone talking about what they feel the movies meaning is. it reminds me of people talking about a song and what it means to them. great movie, and great discussions by the people on here. i need to watch this again!
07foxmulder 4 months ago
When I first saw this film, I was like what the hell just happened about the ending?I was disappointed that there was no big battle between the characters or cool gunfight like in the ending for heat! But after looking at the novel and reading McCarthy's other books he never intended the ending to be a big battle!So kudos to the characters, great acting, just wishing there was a kick ass battle at the end!
getreadytodiehard 4 months ago
YO ITS JESSES PINKMANS MOM
987bouk 4 months ago
I'm just gonna ask Cormac at lunch tomorrow.
HoodyBoy85 4 months ago
The whole movie his speech is implying that of an old man using his wisdom and intuition to uncover the crime. At the end as someone said, his intuition is telling him there is an afterlife. He got very close to dying earlier in the film because the killer in this film cannot be reckoned with, those who confront him always end up dying. His intuition could also be telling him about the lost money earlier in the film, he senses that. Strange ending.
Schizima 4 months ago
what stumps me is the cutaway to his wife. i would assume that cut in particular is anything but circumstantial, and it probably does more to illuminate the open-endedness of this scene.
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all the mythic tales of heros and villains, what drives people, and what awaits them at the end of their journey. all comforting stories to be sure. then he woke up.
studnoth1n 4 months ago
all the mythic tales of heros and villains, what drives people, and what awaits them at the end of their journey. all comforting stories to be sure. then he woke up.
studnoth1n 4 months ago
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I would like to think that he didn't, because I figure if he did, they would have showed it
jeffyjobluegrass 4 months ago
so did anton kill the girl at the end?
porn1978 4 months ago
@porn1978 Anton was the personication of death...The Grim Reaper.... He killed everyone, execpt that old guy with the lucky coin.
stevehd111 4 months ago
---Personification
stevehd111 4 months ago
@stevehd111 Im glad he didnt kill the old guy but sad he killed the girl. Good movie though.....Thanks steve!
porn1978 4 months ago
@porn1978 Yes, she was killed
ClamCrunchy 4 months ago
@ClamCrunchy Damnit!!!!
porn1978 4 months ago
@porn1978 Yes, i believe so, you can see him checking his shoes before he walks out of the driveway to see if there is any blood there
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of course the the guy saw him. So of course he killed Anton killed him. At least that's what I figured. Great movie. Tough as hell.
seymourbbest 4 months ago
I just want to know if the accountant got killed that was sitting in the office across from the the guy who hired Anton...cause he asks Anton if he's going to kill him and Anton says, do you see me??
jeffyjobluegrass 4 months ago
@jeffyjobluegrass ....what do you think?
stevehd111 4 months ago
if the rule you followed brought you to this. what is ? is the rule. = curiosity is the rule.
rightfredsdead 4 months ago
I just got through this movie for the 3rd time and I couldn't stop saying "fuck" and crying..., "I FUCKING LOVE THIS MOVIE". It seriously gets better every time I see it-- and the first time I saw it it was the best yet then.
aarossell 4 months ago
I hate this ending sooooo much. This ending pissed me off more than any other movie ending in the universe.
burgerboot 4 months ago
@burgerboot Man, I honestly want you to watch this again someday-- and then again after that. It's a film that needs to be re-watched so you see it like a painting in its entirety. I'm amazed at how beautiful this sentimental movie is.
aarossell 4 months ago
@burgerboot
The ending is beautiful and perfect.
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I just watched this movie and I HAD to to see this brilliant ending again...
B1o2e3rg4e5r6 5 months ago
One of the meanings of the movie is that really bad shit happens, and sometimes there's nothing we can do about it, no amount of crying or sorrow is going to help.
danerogil 5 months ago
Throughout the movie he didn't know where to stand in that meaningless violence; he couldn't understand the world he was living in, different than the world his father had knew and could understand, for it had a meaning. Now for that dream he had, we can guess he hopes for a world, somewhere, that is meaningful. The kind of existence his father once lived in and could bring it to him. Perhaps after death.
Semibrucelee 5 months ago 2
ive only ever dreamed of a ghost once. im in my 40s and normal. it was the shadows of two men in their late 50-60s and a little girl of 7-8yrs old. they seemed not their for me. i just happened to be there at the foot of my bed at night in semi lucidity. they were showing the girl the house possibly or something of that nature. it had nothing much to do with me i dont think. there was an amazing yellow and green / blue feeling of total warmth and reassurance. i still remember it to this day.
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My dream brought me here.
So it was raining, autumn, and there was a foot of water standing on the tilted soil where we planted potatoes earlier. And in the water there were forearm-sized red fish with white stripes. I ran in home to get a net and came back out, it was dark, the water was gone and no rain. I started digging the soil for the fish and found an electric pot full of boiling water, there was light coming out of it and used it to light what i was digging, i found more.. empty pots....
patrikasLTL 5 months ago
The tree's i think symbolize chance which is probably the biggest theme in the story. You have two trees in roughly the same place -one full of life and one dead. It's just like fate of the characters. Couldn't the other tree just as easily died? or even both of them? The trees sum up the entire movie in one image while Ed Tom Bell sits in the forground ambiguously discussing how he deals with the reality of that image.
BrianAndrew1515 5 months ago
I believe him losing the money symbolizes his giving up being sherif instead of hanging on to something that has been part of his family heritage.
To me the second dream symbolizes one generation using knowledge (the torch light) to lead the way and create saftey (the fire) amongst adversity (the cold) for the coming generation (Bell). His father goes by like he doesn't exist ( hasn't been born yet). Bell's father is making a save place for him in the cold for when he arrives (is born).
BrianAndrew1515 5 months ago
What is it with Cormac McCarthy and fathers and sons carrying fire?
I guess he like the image because it's predominant in "The Road" as well.
chenalos 5 months ago
while TRUE GRIT emphasized the grace of God, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN emphasized on the lack of one.
to me Anton Chigurh is the shout in my face; "THE IS NO GOD!"
wasantube 6 months ago
@wasantube
I hate it when people shout THE IS NO GOD at me.
riddleman65 5 months ago
@riddleman65
That's an odd thing to shout. "THE IS NO GOD"? Are they foreign with heavy accents? Do they typically lack command of the English language?
tenhauser 5 months ago
@tenhauser
Ask wasantube.
riddleman65 5 months ago
@riddleman65
I just mistype...it should be "there's no god" :P
wasantube 5 months ago
If anyone notices in the background some symbolism with the two trees. 1 old and dead with no leaves while the other one is full of life and its new. this ending was perfect for the whole movie. the protagonist isnt the guy who died its actually this police officer. The dreams are about him getting old and that he cant keep up with criminals like Anton. This is the perfect way to end a movie like this. Very deep and i love it.
ForceRcnMarine 6 months ago
@ForceRcnMarine most astute post i've ever read on youtube.
XXthewaveXX 5 months ago
Meaning, of course, he woke up from the dream. The comforting, hopeful fantasy that this isn't all there is. That there's an existence after death.
kvnw02 6 months ago 26
The fire = life.. and "all that dark, and all that cold" = whatever lies beyond death; maybe the afterlife, maybe nothingness. His father was going on ahead into that great frontier and bringing the fire (human life) with him. He knew that his father would be there waiting for him when it was his time to die... and then he woke up.
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I took similarly, but that the cold and dark represents the current life that has worn him down throughout the book, and the fire is the afterlife.
kyeno 4 months ago
@kvnw02
The fire isn't life, but guidance in the world around him. The fire held by his father is what was left of his hope for a better, less cruel world. The ending isn't about life and death, but about how the violence in the world was getting worse, and any hope for a better world can only be in the dream world.
readux 4 months ago
@readux Such is your opinion. I disagree entirely.
kvnw02 4 months ago
@kvnw02
except the directors described it at the end of the commentary on the extended dvd..
and clearly said it wasn't really about life and death but more about crime and the corruption of the world.
it makes a lot more sense when you take a look at the movie, which is a story about how the bad guy gets away.
readux 4 months ago
@readux Oh, you're saying that the directors of the film dictated the meaning of Cormac McCarthy's notoriously-multivocal work? They told us what Cormac's symbolism really means? I have great respect for the Coen Brothers, but them declaring the meaning of McCarthy's writing matters very little.
kvnw02 4 months ago
@kvnw02
I never said that they are dictating the meaning of McCarthy's work, the Coen brothers in fact worked along with McCarthy during the whole filming process.
I'm curious, why do you think the ending is about life and death?
readux 4 months ago
@readux Well, from a basic literary standpoint, cold/darkness is usually symbolic of death/afterlife, and when contrasted with the fire being carried in the horn by Bell's deceased father, I instantly got the image in my mind of the final transition from life to death. Riding into an unknown dark place to build a fire. When I originally read that scene in the book, it reminded me of seeing one campfire in the middle of the night and knowing that there must be people nearby... (cont.)
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@readux (cont) Bell said about his father, "I knew that whenever I got there, he'd be there." To me, that line screams death and the afterlife. Hoping that heaven exists, that you'll eventually see the loved ones that have died. Also, a more subtle detail in the film was the two trees that can be seen behind Bell in the final scene. One healthy, one dead/dying. I'm not saying that mine is the only conclusive analysis to be had. I'm just saying you can't definitively dismiss other interpretations
kvnw02 4 months ago 17
But he denonces the dream at the end of fim by saying very coldly, "then I woke up". He is still the same objective cynic at the end of the film/book as he is at the very beginning, no? The film is told by the eye's of a man who once saw his world or realitly as a great place to be a part of. Note the conversation with Uncle Ellis in the film that Ed told him that felt "overmatched". Ellis tells him that the "country" has always been violent. The allegorical dream is irrelevant, Cont.
Gunnman941 3 months ago
It's really about a man waking up from his own naiveté.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Gunnman941 3 months ago
I'm sorry for the poor grammar, by the way.
Gunnman941 3 months ago
@kvnw02 definitely, now that i've re-read the end of the book I agree that it feels open to many interpretations :)
readux 2 months ago
@kvnw02 To each there own but I think your reading into it a bit to much.
meltz911 2 months ago
@meltz911 The passage is word verbatim from the novel by Cormac McCarthy. He is a great writer, and it is likely that he put a lot of thought into Bell's last lines in the novel (and the film).
TheGavinKhan 2 months ago
@TheGavinKhan I don't doubt that for a second.
meltz911 2 months ago
@kvnw02 And then he woke up.
ch72105 1 month ago
@kvnw02 The idea of the story is that there is isn't a causal relationship between evil and progression. Bell's fixation on the "old timers" is out of reverence for their ostensible ability to maintain order (something he failed to do). The dream is the culmination of Bell's acceptance that evil has always been present (he learns about an old timer shot and killed in cold blood) and will continue to be present (symbolized by the dark) and that all one can do is to keep the fire alive
TheApolloReactor 1 week ago
@TheApolloReactor McCarthy is a fan of this idea of "carrying the fire" or combating the imbalance of good and evil in the face of adversity
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Also if you read The Road, you can see similarities between the last page "the father carrying the fire to save the world from desolation" and No country. And in the final paragraph of The Road it implies the fire is a sign that there is something to put up against the darkness, which is in fact hope. Hope in a world that isn't changing too much.
readux 4 months ago
@kvnw02 i think it has to deal more with the metaphorical fire, like cormacs characters talked about in The Road. We must all carry the fire, no matter how hard the struggle is.
TheMossad921 3 months ago
Lots of negative remarks about this movie. I loved it. Top 5 for me. I guess im one of very few people who understood this movie. Those of you lame mindless fucks out there that just want action and CG's, yes, this was the wrong movie for you. But hey, you can just pop in the hangover then yel be happy.
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@66ott7 "I guess im one of very few people who understood this movie."
My God! And did you claim your prize yet? Dude, you are totally eligible to join the Secret Society of Super-Intellectual Geniuses! — This movie was the final test!
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GRNoam 6 months ago
I didn't sleep for two nights because I was up trying to figure out what the f this guy was talking about.
DeBo1220 6 months ago
"I knew he was going to fix a fire in all that dark and all that cold."
Goosebumps.
Blahgahbleh 6 months ago
I didn't mind the ending that much I think I liked the protagonist dying. When I first watched this movie this dumb shit sitting in the living room was all "it sucks that the guy dies." I was like thanks you fucking prick!. And I think its safe to type this here since it is titled no country for old men the ending.
remsensor 6 months ago
This movie sucks.
Confused Matthew was right.
Archedgar 6 months ago
@Archedgar evil will always go on no matter what, is what I think they were trying to say
yopapa60 6 months ago
This is the gayest ending ever.
NYerintransit 6 months ago
@NYerintransit wtf is wrong w you? Im still trying to get it a year aftwrds and i dont think its bad!!
facecheek 6 months ago
@NYerintransit You're the gayest ending ever.
danerogil 6 months ago
So did Chigurh kill Moss' wife in the end?
cinemapsycho91 6 months ago
@cinemapsycho91 Yes, it was done offscreen. Chigurh checks his boots for blood as he's walking out the door.
southport97 6 months ago
@southport97 Thanks a lot!!! I appreciate it.
cinemapsycho91 6 months ago
What a shame that Tommy Lee Jones didn't won an oscar his role in this movie
92af 6 months ago
@92af You would have him over the eventual winner Javier Bardem? I'm sorry but as great as Tommy Lee Jones is Bardem's performance can't be beaten
RollinLemons 6 months ago
Its almost like dialogue from a Bergman film. Some questioning life and faith.
timothyw98 6 months ago
anyone who doesn't "get" the ending is an idiot who needs everything to be spoon fed to them so their microscopic mind can handle things. idiots.
ohcalcutta81 7 months ago
This is my favorite Coen movie, and probably one of their best, but this ending sucks big time! It's so much pretentious. It's not an intelligent ending, they just try to make it look like one. The movie should have ended with Anton's car accident!
LJ1412 7 months ago
@LJ1412 If you dislike the ending, you have faults with Cormac McCarthy (the Pulitzer prize winning novelist). Not the Coen brothers.
kvnw02 7 months ago 5
@LJ1412 The ending is more anti-climactic than poetic.. But this is one of those rare movies where the bad guy WINS at the end like Se7en, Memento and the Usual Suspects.
southport97 6 months ago
@southport97 lol u spoiled all three of those movies for me i didn't get to watch them
M000tube 6 months ago
i think the dream gave him hope in that there would be some comfort waiting for him on the other side, which he wasnt sure of earlier on in the movie. theres a lot of layers to this scene that i doubt im smart enough to uncover easily, but that end dream struck me with that msg considering his earlier conversation with his uncle about hoping he'd find God when he got older. its very deep, its something that leaves you wondering. i loved the ending, the movie already had enough action.
nashnwo1234 7 months ago
Beautiful. Thanks.
cheekyzie 7 months ago
I think the meaning is pretty clear. Death. The next frontier. The dark and the cold that his father was riding into to make a fire. The entire film focuses around death.
kvnw02 7 months ago 2
@kvnw02 focuses around Violence, and how a man is trying to cope, wondering, unable to understand how or why people are doing these kind of thing, like antons murders or the man who killed that girl. He doesnt understand, or wonders if he even wants to, hes retiring. wondering how his father, and his fathers father might have handled it etc.
BenjaminKuruga 7 months ago
@BenjaminKuruga I disagree. But that's the beauty of film as a medium.
kvnw02 7 months ago
@kvnw02 Mhm, anyone can interpret it differently.
BenjaminKuruga 7 months ago
@kvnw02 And the irony of this film is that no one had any closure in death.
southport97 6 months ago
The Coen Bros. know how to end their movies. They always want their audiences to feel something they weren't expecting when they walked into the theater. That's something seriously lacking today in most movies.
ThePhantom135 7 months ago
great ending
PrinceBuckets 7 months ago
would of been a better ending if u saw javier bardems air gun sneak up from the window and blown tommy lee jones head off now that would off been a great ending
kosta16 7 months ago
I wanna join the discussion of what I think the ending symbolizes but YT has a character limit and I wouldnt be able to fully express my thoughts within that limit. I thing to take note of in this scene. The two trees in the background. One is old and dying and one is blossoming and young. Just thought I would point that out. Great film, great ending, great everything.
quinn959 7 months ago
@quinn959 wow nice find, i didn't even notice that
KabaL1729 7 months ago
@quinn959 Yeah that is pretty cool. the whole thing is tied together with subtle clues.
Tarten46 6 months ago
Wait, there's a message by leaving Suger alive:
There are dangerous crazy people out there, and there's no tough talking cowboy saving us from them.
This leaves an unsettling compared to movies that end well by giving a false feel of security.
Nomasain 7 months ago
What ending? Sugar broke his arm, followed by Tommy Lee boring us to sleep.
For winding down after work I prefer uncomplicated amusement, gore & action. This was a great movie; shame it lacks an ending: If I want realism I stay outside the cinema.
Nomasain 7 months ago
this is quoted verbatim from the ending of McCarthy's novel. The filmmakers weren't trying to be "too deep"; they were simply moved by a great book and were showing it respect.
Jwelli19 7 months ago 3
@Jwelli19 Exactly. I think the whole movie was almost identical to the way it played out in the book. In other words, it was amazing, and the bad guy was perfect.
unrealityproduction 7 months ago
No Country for Old Men is an awesome movie
92af 7 months ago
@gaelenfade That is just part of my opinion of what the dream means, but this is becoming incredibly long-winded and drawn out. I'm sure if you google search what the ending means, you can find some good answers, or maybe even some vids on youtube discussing it. Nevertheless, the Coen's wanted to stay realistic, and leave the ending open ended. I hope this helped you. Wasn't trying to be arrogant or anything, just trying to give you a different perspective of the ending. Good luck buddy
tjordan2021 7 months ago
As for the dream itself, Bell saw the chase of Chigurh, and the life of a lawman, to be an endless, dark, circuitous circle, as he refers to darkness in the dream. He does not feel like being tormented anymore, so he walks away. It can also be seen as an interpretation for afterlife. Darkness, and not understanding it...Also, we do not know what the McCarthy or the Coen's envisioned. This could have been one of many of Chirgurh's many hitman killings, somewhere between the beginning and the end.
tjordan2021 7 months ago
Once again, not a comment on your intelligence, just on how you perceived the movie. As for the dream, Sheriff Bell discusses how his father, who was also a lawman, died at a younger age than he. We see when Bell notices that Chigurh is probably in the motel, he decides not to go in and find him. He has concluded from this chase, and from his visit with his cat friend, that, despite the fact that he could have tried to capture Chigurh, it is best that he does not and so he retires.
tjordan2021 7 months ago
@tjordan2021 I get it and its nothing new just folded into a modern package and seems very forced at the end like they were trying to make the audience see something so deep they would have to get an oscar. They could have presented thatype of metaphor much better without words by showing how the violence effects the environment and ages the world itself saying that in the end the world changes so much we can never go home. Its always a new country with new and dangerous men.
gaelenfade 7 months ago
@gaelenfade True, true. Idk, I personally liked, and i also understand those who didnt. It's all just a matter of what you were looking for really, and personal preferences in movies...
tjordan2021 7 months ago
@tjordan2021 So in effect by showing the world gets older but yet newer at the same time he could have shown their is no country or home for any of us when we are old and passive in a world thats always new and violent. The speech just forced it down our throats and was an obvious oscar grab attempt. But hey oscars make u money so i guess i dont blame them for wanting to get paid big bucks.
gaelenfade 7 months ago
@gaelenfade Haha yeah definitely. I mean like i said before, i believe they also wanted to stay true to McCarthy. He put a great amount of time into the book, and they stayed so closely to it, it would have been incredibly insensitive to just go away from that vision at the end.
tjordan2021 7 months ago
@tjordan2021 wasnt chigurh waiting in a different hotel room peeping through another hole when bell entered the one where moss got killed? 1 second he's behind the door, and when bell enters the hotel room, gun drawn and cocked, theres absolutely no one there and the window in the bathroom is locked from the inside. the vent was too small to escape through, especially in that short amount of time. chigurh knew that moss keeps the money in the vent, so he already took it. otherwise hes a ghost.
nashnwo1234 7 months ago
There is no country for old or sick men
brianispurelove 7 months ago
@vidgamer77 Yes, I agree, and what No Country is about is the ugly aspects. The fact that no matter what beauty is out there, there's also ugliness, and that can be a difficult thing to come to terms with... just because there is good doesn't mean it's necessarily easy to ignore the bad 24/7.
GoranDuk 7 months ago
The opening monologue he says, I wouldnt want to "place my soul on hazard", meaning there was only so much he would be willing to sacrifice personally for his job, it simply wasnt worth it. He met his match in a cruel sadististic, unempathetic mass murderer. He gave up hope in justice, in apprehending the criminal and in himself.
He is and many portrayed in this movie are part of a dying breed, where civil order was implied, (less need for law enforecement), but that era has faded.
crb4059 7 months ago
i am so tired of movies trying to appear profound and intelligent by making crappy endings that really dont end anything. Ever since the sopranos did this everyone thinks the "no ending" ending is a sure shot oscar winner. This movie was great until the absolutely ridiculous ending. Of course if i dont like the ending that must mean i dont "get" intelligent filmaking. Yeah right.
gaelenfade 7 months ago
@gaelenfade It has nothing to do with The Sopranos. The Coen's have made some great films, so give them some credit. You didn't connect to or concieve the message they were giving, which has nothing to do with your intelligence, but there is definitely an ending. You don't need to see if Chigur dies or not, because that was not the point of the movie. If you watch the movie at face value, as a thriller, it probably does not make as much sense as if you were noticing the symbolism throughout.
tjordan2021 7 months ago
@tjordan2021 i am 35 i got the symbolism and i still think the ending was lame. It was forced and contrived and an obvious desperate attempt to appear as smart filmaking. Everyone is doing the whole "deep speech you dont see what you want" ending. They think a long profound speech that ends midway will appear as something extremely deep and provocative but ultimately i saw through the attempt.
gaelenfade 7 months ago
@gaelenfade Yeah i mean i see what you mean. I just feel like there was so many ways to interpret it. Plus, it wasn't the Coen's as filmakers that did this, it was Cormac McCarthy who ended his book like this, so they stayed true to his story...
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tjordan2021 7 months ago
@gaelenfade He sees himself potentially dying if the chase conitnues.Within this, he concludes that police work is indeed, "No Country for Old Men", as the title states. The Coen's end the movie with this dream, IMO, for a few reasons. One, because the movie is adapted from Cormac McCarthy's book with the same title, and they wanted to stay true to his work. The ending monologue is basically word for word the same as the book. Two, it works incredibly well, almost perfectly.
tjordan2021 7 months ago
@gaelenfade At least, in an artistic, film making sense. Three, because the the inclusiveness of realism is evident throughout the movie. Not every movie can have a perfect ending, with the bad guy dying, or some character walking off into the sunset. This is a realistic end because, in Bell's mind, he is no longer fit to be a Sheriff, and decides to retire, not be a hero, as would be the case in a "Hollywood" movie. Life rarely has a perfect ending, so this absolutely realistic, and well done.
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tjordan2021 7 months ago
WORST. ENDING. EVER!!!! Ok, no, I will never watch this fucking film the ending is absolutely horrid.
Cartmansgf 8 months ago
@Cartmansgf You should try Soul Plane, it's pretty funny. The plane has rims!
tegrenath 7 months ago
@Cartmansgf NICE TROLL! :D
NordicSteel 6 months ago