2010 NBA Summer League: DeMar DeRozan, Matt Bouldin, and Jeremy Lin Are Ballin'

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LINSANITY has proven you wrong @bballbreakdown.

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[ihatewonders]

hey coach nick, i thought demar derozan was drafted in 2009 and not 2010

[alb3rt0h]

Oh look at Jeremy Lin now ;)

[snsdfan24]

if the mavs kept him, he has a ring by now

[breenhill]

JEREMY LIN IS TEARING UP THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW! LINSANITY!

[Jeremiah2304]

wow ur assessment of Lin was spot on. It took him a year to adjust and now he's LEGIT.

[Sean456ism]

nice hair



[RomShots]

shit motto

[azn25centt]

Do you think Jeremy Lin has potential to thrive in the NBA?

[heartbreakdrakemusic]

cant see matt bouldin play in the nba.

[bballbreakdown]

@heartbreakdrakemusic Yeah - he didn't get a shot - but I think I was pretty good on what I said about Jeremy Lin and DeRozan...

[heartbreakdrakemusic]

@bballbreakdown yea dead on for demar derozan and jeremy lin. dd is one of my favourite players, he has so much upside to his game just needs to work on his jumper and defense and definitely be an allstar in next few years. I can see jeremy lin being a smart role player next year for gsw next season. good analysis, looking forward to see new analysis on this year's players. keep up the work!

[pctcolin]

This guy is a fag expressing De Mar and Matt Bouldin ultimate things they do but expressing Jeremy Lin's weakness. Wtf is that, Idgaf what ya'll think, its a hater move. If I was this guy, I would give them all credits and review there best highlights.

[synergysportstech]

@pctcolin I think if you see how Jeremy Lin turned out, I was very accurate. Hopefully, you check out our breakdowns from this past NBA season, plus lots of fresh content all summer long. We just did a mini-documentary featuring Nick Young and Paul George...

Coach Nick

[unioncity]

DeRozean needs work out with Kobe. Dude can be so good.

[Junkforcac]

good call on jeremy lin



[DrJohnyHaze]

"CHARLIE SHEEN FT. TRAPHIK, DUMBFOUNDEAD AND JIN" type in search awesome music video.

[yellowblueskyfly]

u havent done your research on jeremy lin...

[bballbreakdown]

@yellowblueskyfly How so? I believe I said I don't think he'd do too well in the NBA, and I've been proven right so far...

[bigb0y1990]

@bballbreakdown hater...:(

[breenhill]

@bballbreakdown Coach, Linsanity. Linsanity.

[wrijal]

@bballbreakdown lol soo far..not anymore

[darksidehero]

@bballbreakdown A broken clock is still right twice a day.

[omgitsmoimoi]

@bballbreakdown How the hell do you feel now you terrible critic. He's leading the Knicks into a LIN-ning streak. Bad form my ass.

[myaclick]

@bballbreakdown oo.....that's where you're wrong

[unnecessaryremarks]

has this guy even seen jeremy lin shut down john wall in summer league? and dribbling trouble in half-court, whats up with that Bill Nye...

[mikenugo]

Lin should be noted for his defence as well, he can contain and hustle on loose balls but he wont be getting much minutes with the warriors

[Saiyangohan]

@bballbreakdown Fisher and Blake are stereotypical guards who just about represent half of the guards in the league. If Lin can pressure those sort of guards on defense, then he'll have a good career defense wise.

Lin's current offense seems to revolve around driving into the lane. Even at that he's fairly unsuccessful (1-4 FG). But I do expect him to increase his offensive repertoire. He's going to struggle for playing time (he got it today cause of Ellis foul woes and Curry's injury).

[Saiyangohan]

I must say, Lin played pretty well in the 2nd quarter of the Lakers-Warriors game. In 7 minutes of action, he had 4 assists and 2 steals.

He is mostly a pass first player. Doesn't seem too confident with his shot (he had a opportunity to take a shot, but decided to pass it away). He played good defense on both Fisher and Blake, while hustling well for the ball and on team defense.

The Warriors have till Monday to decide if he makes the team. Odds are highly in his favor.

[bballbreakdown]

@Saiyangohan I don't think it's an issue that he will make the team... but I could play good defense on Blake and Fisher :)

He's got bad form on his shot, so I'm not surprised that he looked scared to shoot it...

[chung0730]

@bballbreakdown u cant even gurad fisher when hes 60

[jason0813]

@bballbreakdown stop hating on lin noob.

[IamAWSM]

@bballbreakdown

Kobe has a bad form Doesnt matter bout form

[Saiyangohan]

Three games into the preseason and it's clear that the coaches in Golden State have little faith in Lin. He's barely had any playing time on the team.

On another note, DeRozan seems to be performing well (other than the Bulls game that had him coming off the bench).

[bballbreakdown]

@Saiyangohan I'm not asking for vindication here, but I wonder if some of the other guys will start believing me that he wasn't that impressive...

[JTsai]

i think its horrible that you make it seem like the warriors signed Lin for attention and money. Lin is a good player, he's no kobe bryant, but he can be a great player off the bench. and he is a lot better than Matt. Lin can create shots and Matt (according to you) can make shots only when hes open. Lin as other skills that are great as well. Give him more credit

[bballbreakdown]

@JTsai We'll have to see how good Lin can be - from what I saw (other than 5 minutes against John Wall) I wasn't too impressed. Let's not forget this is a business - he is marketable, which is a good thing - he's from the area, he has a lot of local fans who will pay money to see him play and for the Warriors, that has to be important to them. I hope you check out our other breakdowns. Stay tuned for lots more this month!

Coach Nick

[JTsai]

@bballbreakdown there are plenty of videos of him playing basketball on the internet. google or youtube them. ive seen quite a few and its pretty impressive although he is definitely no kobe bryant or anything, but a solid back up

[korshole]

coach nick, u r gay, just saying

[bballbreakdown]

@korshole Thanks for the comment. I hope you check out our other breakdowns, I think you'll like them.

I'll let my wife and kids know how much you liked BBALLBREAKDOWN.

Coach Nick

[imperialracer04]

dude did u watch jeremy lin vs john wall..seriously?

[bballbreakdown]

@imperialracer04 The point is that I watched a lot more than just 5 minutes of one summer league game and I wasn't too impressed. We'll have to see how he does today against the Clippers... Let's converse here after the game!

Coach Nick

[joohwanoh]

@bballbreakdown he had 7 pts, 2 assists, 3 reb. and 1 steal in 7 mins of play during his game against the clippers. I would say that those are some pretty solid stats. I think he isn't getting as much playing time due to the fact that stephen curry is still only a sophomore and needs the playing time in the pre-season. Hopefully Lin will get some more time in before the beginning of the season.

[bballbreakdown]

@joohwanoh Those are good stats, although it's still in a preseason game, and it's against the Clippers of all people (if Baron Davis was guarding him, I ain't impressed at all, since he can't guard anyone) But I'm keeping my eye out for him - I'd love to see an Ivy League grad do well in the league...

[fetidflatulent]

on the real, jeremy lin is way sicker than you're giving him credit for.

[xfoxman777x]

Coach Nick is gay! especially what hesaid about Golden states signed up Jeremy Lin for his fan base with the asian community. This guy got massive talent, he's got a high basketball IQ, he's fast, confident and explosive! One guy to watch on NBA. Not describing to this ugly kent!

[bballbreakdown]

@xfoxman777x What is a "kent?" I've been called lots of things, but never ugly...

And I'm also not gay, not there's anything wrong with that.

Let's keep tabs on him this season and see if all this exploding talent you're talking about shows up in the games.

Hope you checked out our exclusive interviews and game footage from the NBA Summer League. Stay tuned this week for a great post from legendary coach Pete Carril!

Coach Nick

[DontTakeCrack]

doesnt sound like u give lin enough credit for what he's worth. after all, he got offers from more than 2 teams and i dont know about bouldin but u said he didnt get any

[bballbreakdown]

@DontTakeCrack Love the username. I think Golden State's offer to Lin was the only one with guaranteed money - they can make enough off of his fan base with the Asian community and his hometown fans to more than make up for the contract. We'll have to see what happens with Bouldin - too bad, though - I think he's better than Lin. Check out all our breakdowns - I think you'll like them and want to subscribe.

Coach Nick

[xfoxman777x]

@DontTakeCrack You are right this guy is a dick, sounds like a real hater towards Jeremy Lin says lot's of crap about him especially on his jump shot and his elbow sticking out. It was the only time I see him do that and at times you do get under pressure. Definately not enough credit to Jeremy Lin. I'm not describing!

[IBloodSweatTears]

Great stuff. Thanks for sending me this!

[magicmc23]

great job!

Three players are excellent

[bballbreakdown]

@magicmc23 Thanks - hope to see them all do well this year. Have you checked out our other posts from Las Vegas? We should have a new one this week, so stay tuned and subscribe!

Coach Nick

[unknownagentm88]

time for new video lol

[bballbreakdown]

@unknownagentm88 Yes! I think I can get one out on Wed - hectic. Tryouts were today for my new team. You know any high school kids taller than 6'1" in LA? lol

[0nekhmerXViet]

i love how demar wasn't even voted in the rookie all star game yet he's getting acknowledged now to becoming an all star

[bballbreakdown]

@0nekhmerXViet We shall see if he continues to gain confidence and gets the minutes. I don't see why he won't be solid - and Toronto might be a decent team!

Have you checked out our other summer league posts? Much more to come this week, so stay tuned!

Coach Nick

[0nekhmerXViet]

@bballbreakdown yup, i like that he is an underdog sophomore coming in next season. look out rooks

[lk0micho]

look at where peja launches his "thing", guess his 3 point shots didn't cut it for the Kings.

[BrotherofWill]

@lk0micho So true. Shot technique shouldn't be judged too harshly on the looks or formation of arms. Peja is an exellent example along with Marion.

His jumper looks a bit dodgy to me as well, but it's not because of the form.

[gokinsmen]

Lin shouldn't have much trouble finishing at the rim. The NBA's defensive 3-second call offsets the talent/size disparity. The jumper is definitely a concern, but like I said, it's a concern for almost everyone and nothing that can't be improved with time/effort...and Lin isn't a guy who slacks off. He'll never be Steve Nash from 3, but there's no reason to believe he can't be a solid threat from outside/mid-range.

[bballbreakdown]

@gokinsmen Interesting take on the defensive 3 seconds - perhaps that would help him, but he doesn't jump high enough either way, so I suspect they're going to hammer it into him to just pull up. I don't know - I'll have to see him in preseason and make a decision on him. Thanks!

[unknownagentm88]

yea I seen it article about Nba curses I wonder sometimes

[bballbreakdown]

@unknownagentm88 I think it's shameless PR what ESPN did - there's no way you can convince me they didn't want that story leaked... There wasn't much in it so they figured they'd get a lot more juice if they release it, then pretend to take it down. How's a random guy going to know to take a screen shot of the article in the middle of the night unless he knows they're taking it down??

[unknownagentm88]

yea I seen it I think they made big deal about it m

[unknownagentm88]

sometimes coach nick I think u know to much on what's going on lol take me 2 ur leader!

[bballbreakdown]

@unknownagentm88 LMFAO

I've got some good coaches interviews to splice together coming up. I think I'll ramp up my content as I'm realizing I've got the whole basketball blog thing to myself until the season starts up. I can barely find any fresh content - did you see what ESPN did to pretend they didn't release that LeBron in Vegas article??? The article made me want to go to Vegas and hang out with him - although the photo has him doing that Devil Worshiping sign,,,

[gokinsmen]

Bouldin is like a poor man's Lin. Nice all-around game, but he lacks that extra gear needed to excel in the NBA. By comparison, Lin has his slashing ability and aggressive defense to fall back on (he even averaged over 1 bpg in non-conf last year!). Still, I wish them both luck and wouldn't be surprised if Bouldin found an NBA home eventually or if Lin became a starter/minor star.

[bballbreakdown]

@gokinsmen Lin needs to seriously work on that jump shot. He didn't take a whole bunch of 3's in college - which says something about an NBA caliber player in the Ivy League - I suppose he was able to get to the basket easily. But I don't see him finishing at the rim, so he'll have to develop a serious mid range game to be effective. I think Bouldin could be like Kirk Hinrich. That said, anybody good enough to make an NBA roster can have impressive stats playing Nellie ball. Great comments!

[gokinsmen]

Like 90% of rookies, Lin has to work on his jumpshot mechanics (dude still hits them at a pretty solid clip) and his handle. But he's actually a very good defender who stayed in front of his man as much as any summer league rookie. Lin got beat fewer times all week than John Wall got beat in one quarter...by Lin.

[Saiyangohan]

@Saiyangohan I have watched the summer league games (just not live) via scouting videos. I did miss to insert the Kings game, but that wouldn't have changed my opinion either.

Similarly, announcers/ game commentators/ beat writers/ etc. praising a certain player don't always equate to that player performing well in the NBA. There have a good deal of players during summer leagues who performed poorly in the NBA. Ex: Kwame Brown, Adam Morrison, Michael Beasley, etc.

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy I understand the notion that Brea and Beaubois are not what the Mavs were expecting, but they are none the less they are the PGs for the team. Lin and his agent did the right thing by signing with the Warriors as Lin has a better chance at gaining more minutes there then any team that had offered Lin a deal (or possibly a deal).

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy Look up Lin's numbers from the summer league page from the NBA's front page. He has had two games where he did really well (Wizards and Nuggets), and others where he made good plays but was more of a passer by (Bucks and Rockets).

Similarly, you are missing my earlier posts when I said the same thing you did. I argued that he did what he needed to do, which was gain a contract (kudos to him). However, I did mention he would have to play behind Ellis, Bell, Curry and George.

[screwupkiddy]

@Saiyangohan In my opinion, he played well in all of them and I did watch all of his games. I can tell you didn't watch the games enough to form a solid opinion. (You even missed the fact that he played 5 games and the last game was against the Kings) That's why I refer you to the announcers covering the games for their opinion. Take their word, not mine.

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy It may be true that Nelson had said what he had to Lin. However, it would puzzle me why they would take a gambit on Lin. They have 4 players in Kidd, Brea, Terry, and Beaubois to fill in their PG position. They don't necessarily need more PGs on the team. Then again, I'm not their GM so don't quote me.

[screwupkiddy]

@Saiyangohan Beaubois is a prospect who may or may not pan out. Lin was just another insurance. You should visit the Mavs board sometimes.. they hate Barea because while he's a big time scorer... he does little of everything else. Mainly, they're concerned about his size because he cant guard anybody. Kidd and Terry are aging. At any rate, thats why Lin didnt want to go there.. coz they're stocked at the PG spot.

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy The argument steamed from the fact that you believed his training camp invite was indeed a partially guaranteed contract. He never was offered a partially guaranteed contract from either the Lakers or the Mavs.

He only received a partially guaranteed contract from the Warriors (1st year for 500k with 300k guaranteed, and 2nd year team option). It was at this point I said kudos to him, as he wouldn't have been signed by either the Lakers or Mavs, who don't necessarily need a PG now

[screwupkiddy]

@Saiyangohan You and I both have no knowledge what kind of contract the Mavs or Lakers were offering Lin. All we know is the contract he got from the Warriors and reports that that offer was topped. No team will start out offering an undrafted player a partially guaranteed contract. It became a bidding war and teams were willing to bid higher.

[elsenorify]

i really do think Lin is overrated. He got into NBA because NBA wanted to make money off Taiwan. Did u guys see how Jeremy and NBA stars like Jennings started playing "Charity games" in Taiwan? It's all about the money.. if a black guy with skills like Jeremy's try out for NBA, he wouldn't have made it because with those skills, it's IMPOSSIBLE TO OUTSHINE nba players

[screwupkiddy]

@elsenorify This doesn't explain why Lin never got drafted and why there's only one team that extended an invitation to Lin to play on their summer league squad. Whether he's overrated or not.. well for sure he's overrated by asian americans.. I believe that.... but overrated by GMs who wanted to sign him? I dont think so.

[elsenorify]

thanks for the replies... appreciate wut u do... u get paid or something??? shouldnt be doing dis for free

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy I forgot to mention but training camp invites themselves do mean contracts as well. Quoting insidehoops, "..."training camp contracts," which in reality are simply nonguaranteed or very short term deals. Just before and possibly during training camps, lots of fringe players often get signed, only to be cut during the camp or just after it, possibly during preseason".

So the Lakers and Mavs indeed planned on offering Lin a contract. However, it would only have been for training.

[screwupkiddy]

@Saiyangohan As I said in my earlier post, unless you're a 1st round pick, there is no such thing as being signed for a contract for the entire season and you can't be cut. Remember where all this discussion started... you highlighted the fact that Lin was only going to be invited to training camp but I am pointing out that he has a partially guaranteed contract so this is a vote of confidence above and beyond a training camp invite. You dont guarantee 300K for a training camp invitee.

[screwupkiddy]

@screwupkiddy Also, this is a 2 year contract with the 2nd year being a team option,.. that means the Warriors hold Lin's bird rights because of the Arenas Rule if I'm not mistaken...this is not a training camp invitee "contract." as you are trying to insinuate that it's the same thing. I can't imagine that a "topped" offer would be a training camp invitee contract.

[screwupkiddy]

@Saiyangohan And as regards to the Mavs, Donnie Nelson told Lin that he thinks he is 1 year away from being an NBA player so he wanted him to be the starting PG for his DLeague team while he grooms him for the NBA. Well that can juts be a businessman talking but take it for what its worth. The point is it refutes your opinion that Lin was just being brought in for training camp to see if he pans out as opposed to actually an intention by the Mavs to groom him for the long term.

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy I'm not saying Lin is not a good player and does not deserve a contract. I'm instead saying that he's received a good deal of PR from his Wizards-Mavs game. He played well in his Wizards and possibly Nuggets game, but still was turn over prone (avg. 3.5 in 5 games).

The reason there is a good deal of hype around him is that he would probably be the first Asian American to make it into the league. The Asian community is bolstering his achievements even before his first NBA game.

[screwupkiddy]

@Saiyangohan I think Lin went from underrated prospect form Harvard all of a sudden to overexposed recently. I also agree that there are some fanatics who are hyping him too much. Nonetheless, the fact of the matter is Lin did accomplish what he needed to do to get an NBA contract. You said that he did well only against John Wall... which is also false. Go back and watch his Youtube highlights and close your eyes as you listen to the announcer... every single announcer was singing his praises.

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy You're right, I did read Thompson's articles and he did mention that Lin had received offers from multiple sources. However, his article does not mention that it was the Mavs or the Lakers who offered the "counter offer that may have topped the Warriors' deal". It simply states that a team had made a better offer.

Also, in another article written by Thompson, he states, "It certainly doesn’t hurt that he’s Asian-American, which is a rarity in the NBA...".

[Saiyangohan]

@bballbreakdown I forgot to mention that his poor shooting should not discount his chances to sign with the Bulls.

Yes, he is a poor shooter, but he compensates for it by making nice clean passes at good angles, playing good individual and team defense, and by having a knack of flaring out to the open spot when the ball is sent into the paint.

Don't know if the Bulls will hire him. They already have Rose and Watson to hold the fort down and seem in need of a good back up for Boozer instead.

[bballbreakdown]

@Saiyangohan I'd like to think that they turned down McGrady so they could bring Bouldin in as a good combo guard - I know he could do the Hinrich thing if they gave him a chance...

You know how they started a Shannon Brown Dunk thing online? Maybe I'll do it for Bouldin...

[Saiyangohan]

@bballbreakdown In regards to Bouldin, I still am not fully convinced of his expertise.

I agree with your presumption that the insertion of Lucas disrupted Bouldin's rhythm. However, this does not explain his poor outside shooting (4-12 beyond the 3pt line during Summer). Similarly, he wasn't anything special even while he played for Gonzaga (.365 3P% on 57-156). Sure he made some jumpers with a hand in his face, but it was irregular.

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy Actually, I'd go so far as to say that his hiring has to do with a combination of both, skin color and talent. Those 3 teams you mention were not going to sign Lin to the actual team; he only would have tried out at training camp and likely not get signed.

The Warriors signed Lin for the fact that he is a smaller athletic guard, that he is smart in the open floor, he pushes the ball, and that he is of Asian heritage. Beyond his Wizards-Mavs game, he hasn't been spectacular.

[screwupkiddy]

@Saiyangohan Sorry, but you got your facts wrong. Marcus Thomson beat writer for Warriors and writes for Contra Costa Times wrote that Mavs and Lakers put in counter offers that in his words "topped" the Warriors offer once they found out about Warriors offer. I think you are confusing training camp invite and signing an NBA contract with guaranteed money. A training camp invite has no investment by the team... the latter is an investment by the team on the player. Big difference.

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy The reason the Warriors signed Lin was that Nelson enjoys smaller guards who can push the ball in traffic. Don Nelson's offensive scheme (referred to as "Nellie Ball") demands for athletic smaller guards to outrun their opponents and create mismatches. In fact, a true center is not needed to run this sort of offense.

Lin should maximize his opportunities with the Warriors. Of course, he will be competing for time with Ellis, Curry, Bell, and possibly George.

[bballbreakdown]

@Saiyangohan @screwupkiddy Love the Conversation! Keep it up!!

Oh - and Lin can be okay when the game is going up and down. If I were Lin, I'd make sure NOT to get a ride on a Mo-Ped with Monta Ellis!!

[Saiyangohan]

@screwupkiddy There was a reason why the Lakers and Mavs attempted to sign Lin, but it had nothing to do with the actual season.

Both teams are pretty well stocked on the PG position. Therefore, the only reason they were willing to sign Lin was to have him in training camp and try out for the team. He wouldn't have been signed for the actual season.

[screwupkiddy]

@Saiyangohan Unless you're a 1st round pick, no one is assured of being signed for the actual season. Even 1st rounders get sent back down to the DLeague. Lin's contract being partially guaranteed is already unprecedented. I'm not saying kid is the 2nd coming of Jordan, all I'm saying is between Bouldin and Lin, there is clearly a reason why Bouldin is only getting a training camp invite while Lin signed a partially guaranteed NBA contract and it's not bec of the color of their skin.

[elsenorify]

i just dun see how jeremy lin or bouldin will be special players... can u explain to me??? im not hating on them. im jus wondering...

[bballbreakdown]

@elsenorify I don't see how Jeremy Lin can be that special - at least not this year - so I agree with you. It'll take him time, if he does it at all.

Bouldin, on the other hand, looked ready to me, if he can only get a shot. He wasn't intimidated by the speed and size of the players and was able to do really well when he got minutes. I think you could plug him in to a team and he'd give you Hinrich numbers to start...

THANKS. You checked out the other summer league posts yet?

[screwupkiddy]

I agree somewhat with your analysis on Lin and of course everybody knows DaRozan was an all start in summer league but I can also sense a clear and heavy bias you have towards Bouldin. You're like probably his biggest fan or something. He played 25mpg in summer league and his numbers were nothing special. He shot 0.355 FG% and 0.333 3p% and only dished out 2.4 assists. You're asking why no team has signed him yet?... Well one look at his numbers and any sane GM can tell you why.

[bballbreakdown]

@screwupkiddy I am his biggest fan! It's hard to shoot really well from distance in this kind of league since you're never playing consistent minutes and everyone else is trying to get theirs. He had to play with John Lucas III who dominated the ball with a capital D, making it harder for him to find any rhythm. I watched his release, his form, his ball handling - he certainly has more tools than Jeremy Lin. And no sane GM would base his decision on just summer league stats...

[screwupkiddy]

@bballbreakdown More tools than Lin? Listen.. there's a reason why the Lakers, Mavs, Warriors and an Eastern Conf team wanted to sign Lin but nobody was exactly knocking on Bouldin's door to sign him up. It's not just marketing potential either bec no team actually invited Lin to play for their summer league team except for the Mavs. Since you're an admitted biggest fan of Bouldin I don't expect you to set aside your bias so all Im gonna say is more power to your boy. Hope he makes the Bulls.

[bballbreakdown]

@screwupkiddy I wouldn't say all those teams were lined up waiting to sign Lin - the best deal he got was from the Warriors, who have only guaranteed half his salary - which they know they'll make up with ticket sales of his local fans and the chinese market that will follow him. All I can tell you is what I saw firsthand in summer league - Bouldin had more skills and didnt' have the same problems with pressure that Lin had. I wouldn't call it a bias - just my informed opinion...Bouldin>Lin

[screwupkiddy]

@bballbreakdown Bottomline is there were more than 3 teams who wanted to sign Lin on their squad and none for Bouldin. This is an undisputable fact which you cannot argue with. Regarding whether Bouldin is a better player, well you have 2 strikes against you... one, his summer league numbers were worse than Lin's... and second, no team wanted to sign him... in spite of these, you can still be right. However, facts are facts and right now, facts are against your "informed opinion".

[bballbreakdown]

@screwupkiddy Yes - and the Bulls are also the team that just fired their Summer League coach after heralding him when Thibodeau came in.... so Bouldin's got that going against him too. Maybe they fired Meyers because he wanted them to sign Bouldin!

[HeartofGold16]

I thought Lin was signed by the Warriors?

Anyway... great job once again, Coach Nick! I needed something to keep my mind from going crazy without basketball! Thanks! Can't wait for the next post.

[bballbreakdown]

@HeartofGold16 That's right - I said that at the end, but in the beginning, I just put the team he played for in the Summer League. It's cool how it works - you can play for one team and get poached by another. Lin is from there and I have no doubt the Warriors signed him in part to get more tickets sales - so his salary will probably be paid for by the extra people coming to see him - as well as the Chinese market

[Slamwoo93]

DeMar Derozan will do pretty good, I don't know about Bouldin he looks pretty good and Jeremy Lin....wow i just don't see how can he be " ballin' ", he's not a big threat from outside which i think every point guard should be ( That's why i think D-WIll is a better player, while Rondo is just makes up for not having a shot by hustling like crazy ) and he's not as quick doesn't have much handle only thing that's good is his smarts...we'll just have to wait and see with him

[bballbreakdown]

@Slamwoo93 Funny you say that - my take was going to be brutal on Lin - that he didn't have the skills or the body to play in the NBA. But after looking at the footage again, he didn't look as bad as I remembered it in person. AND he did have a nice game against John Wall where he didn't look completely over matched.

As for Rondo - hustle is one of his strong suits for sure - but let's not forget his great passing skills (better than DWill), great defense, and how he runs the offense...

[PROTOGgouki]

I find it ironic that Hinrich is now gone to the Wizards and he can be replaced by Bouldwin, whom pretty much has a similar type of game.

[bballbreakdown]

@PROTOGgouki It would be nice for Bouldin if it worked out that way. Hinrich had to be traded to bring in the other free agents, so...

I haven't heard anything yet, so I don't know what's going to happen to Bouldin...

Coach Nick

[BadMonkeySyndrome]

thanks for keeping us updated on the summer league, can't wait until the season starts!!

[bballbreakdown]

@BadMonkeySyndrome Thanks! Can't wait for the next post. I think I'll do a medley of coaches I interviewed... Stay Tuned!

Coach Nick

[rcinglad]

@bballbreakdown Nick, you think I'm crazy for thinkin Demar will be the most improved player next year, Cuz I think Bosh didn't let any1 else get touches for being our "franchise player" last year.

[bballbreakdown]

@rcinglad It is possible. I don't know if he'll make a jump from 8 ppg to 20, which he'd probably need to get the award, but he should get to at least 16 ppg. There's an interview with Toronto's summer league coach and they're pretty hard on him - check it on torontohq [dot] com BUt maybe they don't want his head too big... I'll be willing to bet they win at least the same amount of games this year... Does Chris Bosh know how to play Defense????

[rcinglad]

@bballbreakdown LOL I think he might be as good defensively as Stoudemire, did you hear the comments the GM of the Raptors made about Bosh lol he was cleared to play but didn't want to when we were making the playoff push.

[bballbreakdown]

@BigSAK88 Thanks! Have you checked out our Playoff Breakdowns? I think you'll like them. Stay tuned for much more from our exclusive content in the Summer League. As for Kobe or LeBron - I'm not a Kobe fan

Coach Nick

[lolinglolloler]

Thanks for doing my request. Can you do a team by team analyst on the guys who went to summer league and how they'll transition to the NBA? Like Washington have Wall and McGee, Raptors have Derozan, Weems and Ed Davis and such.

Thanks!

Btw who do you think would be more successful, Lin or Bouldin

[bballbreakdown]

@lolinglolloler Thanks! Right now, I'm letting the footage talk to me, so as the connections appear, I'll shape the posts. I didn't film every second of every game, so...As for who will be more successful-if Bouldin gets a shot in Chicago, I don't think he'd get to play much. I think Lin will get more of a shot-so you have to go with Lin practically speaking. THat said, I think Bouldin IS better-as a shooter, passer, ball handler, defender. Everything...if he'd been from Northern CA - who knows?

[iHypeTV]

If DeRozan keeps this up he might be TOR's more athletic version of Brandon Roy!

[bballbreakdown]

@iHypeTV I love Brandon Roy - I'm not sure DeRozan has that killer instinct that Roy has - but he reminds me a little of Granger... which would be really good for Toronto with Bargnani and some of the other young kids they've got...

[iHypeTV]

@bballbreakdown So you think Bargnani & DeRozan are the players to build around? Or can you throw Ed Davis into that mix?

[bballbreakdown]

@iHypeTV Yes - I was really impressed with the very little I saw of him last year, being in LA - I promise to utilize my NBA package more. Ed Davis looked really thin and weak to me - but he surprised me with his play - he seems to have good balance and some good skills - but he'll need time to develop. Another UNC player that would probably have benefited from 4 years under Dean Smith if he had coached longer.

Coach Nick

[iHypeTV]

@bballbreakdown Cool, but this is on the side note, what do you think about the Warriors this season? Do you think the Stephen Curry is on his way to elite status within 2-3 years?

[Saiyangohan]

@bballbreakdown The difference between Lin and Redick however has to do with contract. Redick was a first round (11th pick) draftee and thus was signed to a guaranteed contract. Lin however will not have that luxury as he was not drafted.

So while Redick had the leisure of developing his game while protected by job security, Lin will not receive that same leisure. He won't get those 5 years to prove himself. He is going to have to improve a good deal in 2 years or lose out a job.

[bballbreakdown]

@Saiyangohan I agree. I do think he'll get more of a chance in Golden State than Redick got his first 2 years in Orlando - so he's got that going for him - plus the fact that Golden State is defense optional ;)

[LoneshotHero]

Chicago should definitely sign Bouldin. They're one team that even with Korver, Brewer, Watson, they can still use more help when it comes to outside shooting. I heard they're looking at some veteran guards, but why not keep the group young and smart with a player like Bouldin. He looks like he could be just as good if not better than Redick in a season or two.

[bballbreakdown]

@LoneshotHero I agree - he's bigger and stronger than Redick, and I always liked his game at Gonzaga, even though his numbers weren't huge. We'll see - I might have to start playbouldin [dot] com!

[unknownagentm88]

we will see come season time

[Saiyangohan]

@bballbreakdown His defense on the other hand is nice. He hedges well on pick and rolls. He also seems willing to rotate to the ball handler if deemed necessary.

Similarly, he allows for just enough space for him to see his man and any potential picks that might be coming his way. However, I doubt he'll be an impact player as Rose is for the Bulls. Bouldin seems more like a Steve Blake in disguise (even though Bouldin doesn't have a good outside shot, I imagine he'll work on it).

[bballbreakdown]

@Saiyangohan Trust me - Bouldin has a really good outside shot. I think his low shooting percentage had more to do with dealing with John Lucas on his team than anything. He never got a good rhythm running the team -once he got comfortable, they'd put Lucas back in and he wouldn't handle the ball at all. As for turn overs - I was going to talk about how he didn't need to turn his back to bring it up - and of course, the clips I had showed only doing that. I think he's better than Lin. THANKS!!!

[Saiyangohan]

@bballbreakdown In regards to Bouldin, I'm not sure of his capacity. His shooting wasn't spectacular (.36FG% on 11-31 and .33 3P% on 4-12 in 5 games). Other then the Portland game, he has received a good deal of minutes (28.5MPG not counting Portland) and so his shooting shouldn't reflect one poor game.

He isn't turn over prone, but that has more to do with his defensive style in bringing up the ball (see 1:06 and 1:18 as he brings up the ball with his back turned to his opponent).

[unknownagentm88]

I think Lin still has alot of potential though never know what he might do

[bballbreakdown]

@unknownagentm88 All I know is that if JJ Redick took 5 years to develop, Lin would certainly need some time to adjust. But in an up and down game, he should be able to do okay. But he doesn't look strong enough to be a serious threat on offense or defense. Good to hear from you! Can you believe how big this is getting? I've been making some contact with the powers that be - we'll see what happens in the coming weeks/months...

[Saiyangohan]

@bballbreakdown Getting back to our discussion on Lin, I see what you mean by his jump shot. His elbows do tend to move out awkwardly. Also, not sure why but he began to raise his knees during the jump shot (why would he do that? For more lift?). Beyond that 4th quarter in the Mavs-Wizards game, he hasn't had a stellar game for the minutes he's played.

None the less, he did get hired by the Warriors ($500k/year, 2nd year is team option), and that's what you'd expect from someone not drafted.

[bballbreakdown]

@Saiyangohan I suspect he's someone that can iron those issue out - but if JJ Redick needed 5 years to adjust to the NBA, certainly Lin will need some time. Good for him

[Saiyangohan]

@bballbreakdown Once again, a nice edition to your library of contemporary analysis on the game of basketball. It's always good to listen and watch your scouting/analyzing videos. Do keep it up.

[chasna]

jeremy lin is nasty!!!! cant wait to see him play this season!

[bballbreakdown]

@chasna I wouldn't say he's Nasty just yet - or even Nashty...

I think he'll need some time to get adjusted...

Thanks for the comment. More posts to come!