orion - obviously you are so ashamed at being a red neck that you cant even come out and admit it. The biggest warmongers are those with the biggest chickenhawk mouths. Pathetic
And even though your insured there is very limited government restrictions on what services healthcare companies are required to provided their costumers. So just cause your covered doesn't mean they can find any excuse to deny you coverage.
I hate when people bring up the argument "we don't have the money to pay for healthcare" buts you have no problem with the United States spending 564 billion dollars on its military, 30 billion for the CIA, and more then 3 times that amount on the NSA. Yet it would cost only 34-69 billion a year to take care of our own citizens. The problem with these statistics is that it shows what we as a country truly value and unfortunately its not our own citizens.
The American people want to know one thing of Obama ! Dose he have a set of balls ? Stop Listening to fellow Democrates that are driven by corporate whores.
Oh! So you lied when you said you didn't want health insurance. Those people that don't have health insurance or not enough health insurance should die like any other animal in the forest. If you don't have health insurance stop going to the emergency ward looking for a hand out. Just die like a dog. Jesus Christ! These people expect the rest of us to help them. Go pray to your God if you want help! If you get cancer why should my tax dollars go help to find a cure. F... the CDC and NIH
hahahahahaa! Go Away Troll, find something better to do then saying anything to get ppl to argue with u, ask ur daddy for attention instead. Nobody is stupid enough to believe what u just wrote, this is a straight up troll.
Lol, Aw man you live in Norway! You're one lucky guy. That's the best country in the world to live in. It was voted number one three times by the UN. So you must be really happy living there. Is Norwegian hard to learn? The USA is so corrupt it's becoming a banana republic.
And F... the US Government! Why should I pay taxes for an Army, Navy, Air-Force and Marines! WTF! I can fight my own battles I don't need a God damn military to fight them! WTF do I need car insurance?! Y'know if I plow into you then you were in my way! You violated my space by being in my way! F...YU! Why do I have to get a ticket for not having car insurance?! This system is so f-ing corrupt the insurance companies have us by the balls. Jesus Christ I HAVE to have car insurance!
No the real question is are you going to feed off the hospital, doctors, nurses, technicians, and the technology to fix your arm so you can go back to work and pay your taxes like you're suppose to or be begging on some street corner feeling sorry for yourself because you can't afford to pay the bill, and be pissed that no one wants to give you a dime because you were too stupid to foresee this injury because you're too stupid to realize that just maybe you might have a major accident.
If you slip on a banana peel do you have the twelve thousand dollars to fix your arm? There's the emergency room fee, the e.r. doctor's fee, the radiologist's fee, the chemistry lab's fee, the orthopaedic surgeon's fee, the hand surgeon's fee, the application of the splint fee, x-ray fee, ct scan fee, the closed reduction fee, operating room fee, the anesthesiologist's fee, post casting x-ray fee, the metal plate application fee, and the office visits, removal fee and occupational therapy fee.
While I'm wathing this, go watch Sicko by Michael Moore, and before you start ripping him for being left leaning discredit him don't just name call him. That's really what stupid unoriginal people do.
I'm glad your deleted that reply to me before I tore it apart. I might add you got nasty, I can get as nasty as any frigged up conservative trust me. Lets try and keep it relevent and intellectual plz. If you want me to dig up the statistics for you I will.
Doctors here aren't paid like Kings or US bankers, they are however well compensated and happy, I say again... if they want to move to the US it's a free country here.
I might also add there are emergency rooms here too, except probably not quite as busy because we have treated the poor with preventitive care rather than wait til the rot to nothing before they go to ER.
Well stats differ from who makes them up, but even if it's accurate, you have .2 more doctors per 1000 people which is pretty much a whoopty doo.
Are you a doctor? Why are you concerned about what doctors make? Also doctors here in Canada don't complain and if they don't like it they can go to the States, but they don't.
Doctors in the States are allowed to be immoral, they can invest or get paid from labs and send people to them for unrelated tests to their illness thus they profit more
There are actually more doctors per capita in Canada than in the United States. On the front page of the Calgary Herald (the paper here), there are 70nurses complaining that the public should be outraged that the taxpayers helped pay for their education and now the government won't hire them due to cut backs. They are resigned to working in the United States. They are upset about leaving Canada. Difference is, uncovered people die in the US, whereas for a small wait you get treated here.
It's free here because we're much like Alaska with lots of oil. Instead of companies sucking all of the profits, the "people" own the oil in the ground. The oil companies must pay a royalty to drill and extract the oil and therefor the taxpayer doesn't pay.
In the US however, a HUGE HUGE HUGE amount of your tax payer money goes to Halliburton, military spending, wars, and bailouts to too big to fails. We don't have that here, so we can afford to do things like looking after the sick.
LOL, the wait is not for the government to pay your bill, it's so that others can get into see the doctor that have waited longer than you and that may have a condition worse than you. I say again... it's doctors that make you wait not the government.
If you want to pay for your doctor then just do what our rich do here in Canada. Fly somewhere where you can get a gold plated hospital room and get a free sucker when you leave.
I pay you a certain rate on a consistent basis as a means of alleviating my concerns should I become extremely ill, need surgery, fall off a cliff and break my leg, etc.
If I go thirty five years without any health problems, the insurance company wins.
If I get injured all the time, my rates will go up so high I cannot pay them- the insurance company wins.
Honest definition of insurance company: blood sucking parasite.
Hear hear Michael Moore yet again. He puts it so well. Obama is too nice, too passive. It's true that he came into office with an olive branch & had hoped that the other side would reciprocate. Instead, the other side saw him as weak & ate him for lunch. Obie's truly too green & naive to have gotten single-payer universal health care for all, being so passive & weak. Obie started from a compromising position. You can't get what you want starting like that. You have to fight hard from the get go!
Why is it that when people like you don't like something your first solution seems to be shoving it up the ass? You should seriously get some help for that as I can only imagine how many things you have shoved up your own ass simply to avoid them.
His comments about 9/11 are telling-Anone with a brain knows its an inside job-Just wish he had come out and said it....Anyone doesn't believe me go and watch ZERO-An investigation into 9/11...on You Tube.
The middle man isn't regulated by the government it would "be" the government, and the government has no profit-based goal. Just as any other public tax funded service (aka "the government") has no profit-based goal. Now in this situation, you can say that it is questionable whether the American government is trustworthy on whether they can run a stable system; that's fine. Other countries run health programs just fine and costs along with quality of life show its difference with healthcare here
Howard Dean just sent out a new petiton and is hoping to get 250,000 signatures in favor of the public option. I have it in the comment section of my profile. Please take a moment to sign it and then pass it on. Thank you.
He sounds as stupid defending Obama as Hannity sounds defending Bush.
Both Bush and Obama and all presidents are BOUGHT and paid for by the international bankers. They will NEVER make clean, abundant energy, stop the bankers, stop the wars, follow the constitution, etc.
No it doesn't, I live in Alberta and health care in Canada is through provincial authority. The Federal government pays the provinces to administer heath care to its citizen. In Alberta 3 years ago when we paid off our debt, the government was then in a profitable revenue and eliminated all healh care premiums. Every man woman and child gets free health care here now. Also in other provinces if you can't afford you can apply for a discount if you can show hardship.
You cannot debate opponents of Healthcare reform by citing success of Government run systems because your arguments might be true but are not as media savvy (dumbed down) as those given by the Insurance company propaganda.
Its amazing that right wing so called "christians" can allow a system to exist where healthcare is denied to the poorest, a system where people go bankrupt due to illness.
right wing so called "christians" What does political and religious labels have to do with healthcare ?
The way our system is being run Canadians will eventually end up with nothing because the federal government can't keep up with the costs. Canadians are taxed on a federal level , extra fees at a provincial level and the government can't keep up .
Universal healthcare will eventually bankrupt the nation then the citizens will end up with nothing.
Because in America the most vocal of opponents healthcare reform are also self avowed guardians of America's "judeo-christian" heritage.
Universal healthcare wont bankrupt the country, if everyone was fending for themselves like in America, then you will see a lot more personal bankruptcies and denial of healthcare to all but the very few who can afford it, there will also be limited facilities in the remoter parts as no company can provide medical care for profit in places like Arctic circle.
I think what he mean't is that right wing believes anything corporate America spins a right wing value to get what they want in policy they will go along with. The fact is, what is happening in the health industry is unsustainable. Major change is needed, and the people that profited the most from it are pouring millions of dollars into the spinsters to avoid any "real" reform.
I Live in another province, I'm out of work , I can't keep up with my premiums so I just got a letter from the Federal Government that states any shortfall in premiums will be taken from any refund I might get.
I'm curious, how much do you pay on a monthly basis to the government for your health care? Also which province are you from?
In Alberta when we did pay premiums I believe I was paying about $40 a month. (which is the regular rate not the discount rate)
Also, Americans should understand, we Canadians don't fly down to the US for healthcare. LOL Only the rich do that to jump the line ahead of some poor person back in Canada. Which is fine with me, it's thins the line out. LOL
Universal disease care - not enough trees on the planet it will bankrupt the system.
How much thought is put into preventative medicine ?
How can you cover smokers, drunks, drug addicts, old age ? Now ask yourself how much of western medicine is a waste of time. Example flu shots 0 benefit, huge costs.
If you took a flu shot you actually more likely to get the flu.
I pay about the same what I 'm finding strange is the Federal Government takes any tax refund a victim might get even though its the province charging the fee.
Off topic - my smoker friend just cost the system 250,000 dollars and he's so tough he might last another decade.
How many smokers, obese, drunks out there ? The system will eventually fail because the government can't fund disease care. Not enough trees on the planet !!!
Quite sad really that in the US you have all these issues and I have researched alot of the problems down there. Federal reserve, trade deficits, debt, health care costs, military spending, etc etc....
What I can say, is Halliburton should never never never have gotten government money ahead of "we the people". Business hand outs from the government should not exist, if this were the case you would probably be able to have universal healthcare in the states.
The US has two unfunded wars going on, the whole country is being run like Enron (corruption is rampant) and the main debate is healthcare.
Really the debate should be food care the states is turning 3rd world while the taxpayers wave the flag its surreal to witness. The Canadian government is in collusion look at the coverage of the unfunded Afghanistan war they only cover the war when one of the troops die.
Completely agree, Canada is part of the NWO aswell. There needs to be change up here too. We need protectionism (protect our standard of living), we only need to import what we cannot produce. Free trade is really designed for domestic companies to move their factories to China or Mexico and then return their manufactured goods with no duty or tariff whatsoever. Really they are just dumping labour costs (or dumping on the middle class) Economies are supported by the middle class.
The Afghan people are owed an apology from the US???? Haha. I don't think they want the Taliban back.
Michael Moore's reality is scewed.
OREUS39 2 years ago
MICHEAL MOORE = HERO :D
mukkohaha 2 years ago 2
orion - rednecks are peace activists?? Are we living in the same world???
radoa1 2 years ago
orion - obviously you are so ashamed at being a red neck that you cant even come out and admit it. The biggest warmongers are those with the biggest chickenhawk mouths. Pathetic
radoa1 2 years ago
orion - you want to spend more money on weapons? What you spend now is not enough?
radoa1 2 years ago
And even though your insured there is very limited government restrictions on what services healthcare companies are required to provided their costumers. So just cause your covered doesn't mean they can find any excuse to deny you coverage.
ragnarokisnow 2 years ago
I hate when people bring up the argument "we don't have the money to pay for healthcare" buts you have no problem with the United States spending 564 billion dollars on its military, 30 billion for the CIA, and more then 3 times that amount on the NSA. Yet it would cost only 34-69 billion a year to take care of our own citizens. The problem with these statistics is that it shows what we as a country truly value and unfortunately its not our own citizens.
ragnarokisnow 2 years ago
its all about priority! for the american oligarchy that is .. :)
ElAlexxis 2 years ago
The American people want to know one thing of Obama ! Dose he have a set of balls ? Stop Listening to fellow Democrates that are driven by corporate whores.
alsuncat 2 years ago
Oh! So you lied when you said you didn't want health insurance. Those people that don't have health insurance or not enough health insurance should die like any other animal in the forest. If you don't have health insurance stop going to the emergency ward looking for a hand out. Just die like a dog. Jesus Christ! These people expect the rest of us to help them. Go pray to your God if you want help! If you get cancer why should my tax dollars go help to find a cure. F... the CDC and NIH
pongman 2 years ago
hahahahahaa! Go Away Troll, find something better to do then saying anything to get ppl to argue with u, ask ur daddy for attention instead. Nobody is stupid enough to believe what u just wrote, this is a straight up troll.
Ex0dus111 2 years ago
Lol, Aw man you live in Norway! You're one lucky guy. That's the best country in the world to live in. It was voted number one three times by the UN. So you must be really happy living there. Is Norwegian hard to learn? The USA is so corrupt it's becoming a banana republic.
pongman 2 years ago
And F... the US Government! Why should I pay taxes for an Army, Navy, Air-Force and Marines! WTF! I can fight my own battles I don't need a God damn military to fight them! WTF do I need car insurance?! Y'know if I plow into you then you were in my way! You violated my space by being in my way! F...YU! Why do I have to get a ticket for not having car insurance?! This system is so f-ing corrupt the insurance companies have us by the balls. Jesus Christ I HAVE to have car insurance!
pongman 2 years ago
No the real question is are you going to feed off the hospital, doctors, nurses, technicians, and the technology to fix your arm so you can go back to work and pay your taxes like you're suppose to or be begging on some street corner feeling sorry for yourself because you can't afford to pay the bill, and be pissed that no one wants to give you a dime because you were too stupid to foresee this injury because you're too stupid to realize that just maybe you might have a major accident.
pongman 2 years ago
If you slip on a banana peel do you have the twelve thousand dollars to fix your arm? There's the emergency room fee, the e.r. doctor's fee, the radiologist's fee, the chemistry lab's fee, the orthopaedic surgeon's fee, the hand surgeon's fee, the application of the splint fee, x-ray fee, ct scan fee, the closed reduction fee, operating room fee, the anesthesiologist's fee, post casting x-ray fee, the metal plate application fee, and the office visits, removal fee and occupational therapy fee.
pongman 2 years ago
While I'm wathing this, go watch Sicko by Michael Moore, and before you start ripping him for being left leaning discredit him don't just name call him. That's really what stupid unoriginal people do.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
I'm glad your deleted that reply to me before I tore it apart. I might add you got nasty, I can get as nasty as any frigged up conservative trust me. Lets try and keep it relevent and intellectual plz. If you want me to dig up the statistics for you I will.
Doctors here aren't paid like Kings or US bankers, they are however well compensated and happy, I say again... if they want to move to the US it's a free country here.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
I might also add there are emergency rooms here too, except probably not quite as busy because we have treated the poor with preventitive care rather than wait til the rot to nothing before they go to ER.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
Well stats differ from who makes them up, but even if it's accurate, you have .2 more doctors per 1000 people which is pretty much a whoopty doo.
Are you a doctor? Why are you concerned about what doctors make? Also doctors here in Canada don't complain and if they don't like it they can go to the States, but they don't.
Doctors in the States are allowed to be immoral, they can invest or get paid from labs and send people to them for unrelated tests to their illness thus they profit more
Dean0000007 2 years ago
There are actually more doctors per capita in Canada than in the United States. On the front page of the Calgary Herald (the paper here), there are 70nurses complaining that the public should be outraged that the taxpayers helped pay for their education and now the government won't hire them due to cut backs. They are resigned to working in the United States. They are upset about leaving Canada. Difference is, uncovered people die in the US, whereas for a small wait you get treated here.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
It's free here because we're much like Alaska with lots of oil. Instead of companies sucking all of the profits, the "people" own the oil in the ground. The oil companies must pay a royalty to drill and extract the oil and therefor the taxpayer doesn't pay.
In the US however, a HUGE HUGE HUGE amount of your tax payer money goes to Halliburton, military spending, wars, and bailouts to too big to fails. We don't have that here, so we can afford to do things like looking after the sick.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
LOL, the wait is not for the government to pay your bill, it's so that others can get into see the doctor that have waited longer than you and that may have a condition worse than you. I say again... it's doctors that make you wait not the government.
If you want to pay for your doctor then just do what our rich do here in Canada. Fly somewhere where you can get a gold plated hospital room and get a free sucker when you leave.
Subnote: Palins an idiot, deathpanels ROFL
Dean0000007 2 years ago
Define me insurance
I think most people don't understand the concept behind insurance
ZankDigiTrash 2 years ago
I pay you a certain rate on a consistent basis as a means of alleviating my concerns should I become extremely ill, need surgery, fall off a cliff and break my leg, etc.
If I go thirty five years without any health problems, the insurance company wins.
If I get injured all the time, my rates will go up so high I cannot pay them- the insurance company wins.
Honest definition of insurance company: blood sucking parasite.
Viva Shakespeare
tristramshandy3 2 years ago
Michael Moore has to be the dumbest person in the United States.
His films are complete fiction. They have been debunked time and time again.
Why are people still listening to this idiot?
Pvtjamesryan2 2 years ago
I think you are confused- instead of Michael Moore, you meant to say Fake Fox News and Right Wing hate/scare radio.
tristramshandy3 2 years ago
Hear hear Michael Moore yet again. He puts it so well. Obama is too nice, too passive. It's true that he came into office with an olive branch & had hoped that the other side would reciprocate. Instead, the other side saw him as weak & ate him for lunch. Obie's truly too green & naive to have gotten single-payer universal health care for all, being so passive & weak. Obie started from a compromising position. You can't get what you want starting like that. You have to fight hard from the get go!
JixMa 2 years ago
Why is it that when people like you don't like something your first solution seems to be shoving it up the ass? You should seriously get some help for that as I can only imagine how many things you have shoved up your own ass simply to avoid them.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
cnn moore looks like a giant
Obama sold out
marniespeaks 2 years ago
His comments about 9/11 are telling-Anone with a brain knows its an inside job-Just wish he had come out and said it....Anyone doesn't believe me go and watch ZERO-An investigation into 9/11...on You Tube.
Glenmead 2 years ago
The middle man isn't regulated by the government it would "be" the government, and the government has no profit-based goal. Just as any other public tax funded service (aka "the government") has no profit-based goal. Now in this situation, you can say that it is questionable whether the American government is trustworthy on whether they can run a stable system; that's fine. Other countries run health programs just fine and costs along with quality of life show its difference with healthcare here
nawcom 2 years ago
Republicans have wrecked our economy since Nov. of 2000
posuerbuster 2 years ago
4:37 Does it not sound like he's praying to Obama here?
exacerbatedtaboo 2 years ago
Howard Dean just sent out a new petiton and is hoping to get 250,000 signatures in favor of the public option. I have it in the comment section of my profile. Please take a moment to sign it and then pass it on. Thank you.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
He sounds as stupid defending Obama as Hannity sounds defending Bush.
Both Bush and Obama and all presidents are BOUGHT and paid for by the international bankers. They will NEVER make clean, abundant energy, stop the bankers, stop the wars, follow the constitution, etc.
Obama is ridiculous and indefensible.
jgaltut 2 years ago
I can't afford my health care premiums but the Canadian government makes me pay for my premiums.
1 payer system..
boots920 2 years ago
No it doesn't, I live in Alberta and health care in Canada is through provincial authority. The Federal government pays the provinces to administer heath care to its citizen. In Alberta 3 years ago when we paid off our debt, the government was then in a profitable revenue and eliminated all healh care premiums. Every man woman and child gets free health care here now. Also in other provinces if you can't afford you can apply for a discount if you can show hardship.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
You cannot debate opponents of Healthcare reform by citing success of Government run systems because your arguments might be true but are not as media savvy (dumbed down) as those given by the Insurance company propaganda.
Its amazing that right wing so called "christians" can allow a system to exist where healthcare is denied to the poorest, a system where people go bankrupt due to illness.
xdir 2 years ago
right wing so called "christians" What does political and religious labels have to do with healthcare ?
The way our system is being run Canadians will eventually end up with nothing because the federal government can't keep up with the costs. Canadians are taxed on a federal level , extra fees at a provincial level and the government can't keep up .
Universal healthcare will eventually bankrupt the nation then the citizens will end up with nothing.
boots920 2 years ago
Because in America the most vocal of opponents healthcare reform are also self avowed guardians of America's "judeo-christian" heritage.
Universal healthcare wont bankrupt the country, if everyone was fending for themselves like in America, then you will see a lot more personal bankruptcies and denial of healthcare to all but the very few who can afford it, there will also be limited facilities in the remoter parts as no company can provide medical care for profit in places like Arctic circle.
xdir 2 years ago
"Because in America the most vocal of opponents healthcare reform are also self avowed guardians of America's "judeo-christian" heritage."
Prove it or you're just presenting heresay evidence ?
In Canada the system is failing and government does nothing to fix it they just let it implode.
boots920 2 years ago
I think what he mean't is that right wing believes anything corporate America spins a right wing value to get what they want in policy they will go along with. The fact is, what is happening in the health industry is unsustainable. Major change is needed, and the people that profited the most from it are pouring millions of dollars into the spinsters to avoid any "real" reform.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
Is health care free or do governments have to raise funds to support public health care ?
Where the US failed was the government not enforcing contract law. The insurance companies took the premiums but didn't provide the coverage.
Problem with government running any social program is that in the future it will leave the taxpayer as a victim because the the program ends.
Social Security, Gov. Healthcare, old age security, food stamps, welfare all will end without notice.
boots920 2 years ago
I Live in another province, I'm out of work , I can't keep up with my premiums so I just got a letter from the Federal Government that states any shortfall in premiums will be taken from any refund I might get.
The federal government turns into bill collector.
boots920 2 years ago
I'm curious, how much do you pay on a monthly basis to the government for your health care? Also which province are you from?
In Alberta when we did pay premiums I believe I was paying about $40 a month. (which is the regular rate not the discount rate)
Also, Americans should understand, we Canadians don't fly down to the US for healthcare. LOL Only the rich do that to jump the line ahead of some poor person back in Canada. Which is fine with me, it's thins the line out. LOL
Dean0000007 2 years ago
I might also add, lines aren't all that big either. Canadians don't complain about their healthcare one bit.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
Universal accident care - the system works !
Universal disease care - not enough trees on the planet it will bankrupt the system.
How much thought is put into preventative medicine ?
How can you cover smokers, drunks, drug addicts, old age ? Now ask yourself how much of western medicine is a waste of time. Example flu shots 0 benefit, huge costs.
If you took a flu shot you actually more likely to get the flu.
boots920 2 years ago
I pay about the same what I 'm finding strange is the Federal Government takes any tax refund a victim might get even though its the province charging the fee.
Off topic - my smoker friend just cost the system 250,000 dollars and he's so tough he might last another decade.
How many smokers, obese, drunks out there ? The system will eventually fail because the government can't fund disease care. Not enough trees on the planet !!!
boots920 2 years ago
Quite sad really that in the US you have all these issues and I have researched alot of the problems down there. Federal reserve, trade deficits, debt, health care costs, military spending, etc etc....
What I can say, is Halliburton should never never never have gotten government money ahead of "we the people". Business hand outs from the government should not exist, if this were the case you would probably be able to have universal healthcare in the states.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
The US has two unfunded wars going on, the whole country is being run like Enron (corruption is rampant) and the main debate is healthcare.
Really the debate should be food care the states is turning 3rd world while the taxpayers wave the flag its surreal to witness. The Canadian government is in collusion look at the coverage of the unfunded Afghanistan war they only cover the war when one of the troops die.
boots920 2 years ago
Completely agree, Canada is part of the NWO aswell. There needs to be change up here too. We need protectionism (protect our standard of living), we only need to import what we cannot produce. Free trade is really designed for domestic companies to move their factories to China or Mexico and then return their manufactured goods with no duty or tariff whatsoever. Really they are just dumping labour costs (or dumping on the middle class) Economies are supported by the middle class.
Dean0000007 2 years ago
Say, what an OPEN MIND you have!!!
KagarBeardtooth 2 years ago
7:04 is just horseshit, both these jokers held their breath, I wanna play poker with these two...
iTellYouNoLie 2 years ago
-1 to Blitzer, hostile right from the beginning. At least it's much more refreshing than watching Wallace eat out Cheney's ass.
Hybrid5784 2 years ago
how's it taste moore?
iTellYouNoLie 2 years ago
TRUE patriot. not the fake ones that wave an American flag like a Nazi.
LouieArrighi 2 years ago 4
what an idiot
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idontnormallydothis 2 years ago