Added: 4 months ago
From: AdamKokesh
Views: 17,766
Sort by time | Sort by thread (beta)

Link to this comment:

Share to:

All Comments (339)

Sign In or Sign Up now to post a comment!
  • Who are the authors to reference? I have one of Murray Rothbards books.

  • I like how there's a hotdog booth in the background.

  • Fannie Mae isn't a government agency, neither is the fed

  • @cowboyx1970 It is attached to government's power like a plant to a planter's stick, if you remove the stick(government) the plant dies.

  • It's funny that they call themselves the 99% because in 99% of the videos you watch about the Occupy protest there's some idiot that's wearing a boot on his head, or dressed as Jesus, or passed out on the sidewalk.

  • Comment removed

  • good to see an anarcho capitalist at OWS instead of all those social assholes

  • Oof. "Anarcho-capitalists" make my head hurt.

    Giving up property rights="crazy". Giving up government=Obvious.

    We understand perfectly well, you entitled white male douchebags. You want to maintain hierarchies and systems of force when they benefit YOU.

    NO Gods, NO Masters. Fuck Murray Rothbard.

  • @UGetTheGasFace You say no gods no masters, but only a "master" can violate my property rights. Property rights begin with exclusive access to your mind, its knowledge, and your resulting ability. Humans, without claws or great strength, survive primarily by the mind. If human happiness and survival set the standard, then its the mind that must be protected. However, this means we must be free to think and to keep the products of our thinking - regardless what others think. We must be free.

  • @clemonsx90 What property rights? It's not a concept that exists in a vacuum. Western society's current idea of "property rights" rests on the state for enforcement--there's no scientific basis for assuming this system is some unassailable truth. We believe in property rights as currently constructed because government force conditions us to assume their primacy.

  • @UGetTheGasFace The notion of a property right is distinct from the protection or enforcement of a property right. Whether or not you think individuals should "own" property is a moral question, but nonetheless proponents and detractors of property rights all have a notion of property rights. The communist says rights are held by the collective and granted to the individual. The capitalist says that individuals grant some of their rights to the government. Property rights being a kind of right.

  • @clemonsx90 Yes, that's closer to my point. I get frustrated when people fail to see property regimes are mere societal conditioning. But enforcement is everything. I'm no state communist, but a capital "A" Anarchist in the age-old tradition of Proudhon & Bakhunin. When a governing structure's only purpose is to protect wealth the elites have obsessively hoarded-and I believe our government is rapidly approaching that--a vast majority have no interest in supporting/ perpetuating it.

  • @UGetTheGasFace "We believe in property rights as currently constructed because government force conditions us to assume their primacy."

    Is that your argument?

  • @UGetTheGasFace I would say that property rights stem from self ownership.. you own your self and are responsible for you actions... so you should also own the effect of those actions... or property.

  • omg 1:18 he even looks like Murray Rothbard

  • I will always think of Monty Python and the Holy Grail when I hear the term "Anarcho-Syndicalist"

  • Communistic anarchists are so owned.

  • @polabear001 EXACTLY! These fucking idiots dont understand that once there is no gov, corps can practically do anything they want...it can go both ways with or without gov, so we must literally replace EVERYBODY in gov with the average working man who doesnt own huge firms so they can collectively decide whats best for the average citizen and actually enforcing the law as means of throwing up the middle finger to those huge firms who dont pay taxes.

  • @Fcno I have a feeling that the average working man would be just as corrupt if someone dangle a million dollars in their face. Humans are greedy from all background.

  • @rzxwm10 not true, keep thinking that

  • @Fcno no, its the government that makes the corporations so powerful

  • @trustinchrist123 Corporate form aside: if there were no government tomorrow, would power imbalances and coercion disappear? Government currently contributes to, but is not a prerequisite for, a system where those individuals who have amassed money and other property (in a "just" way, of course, meaning whatever you/Adam/other Western white guys deem "just") also amass power. In a system of inequality, liberty is a farce.

  • @trustinchrist123 why? Because those who are in government are in corporations

  • @Fcno because the big corporations and politicians are in bed with eachother, and both are controlled by more sinister people higher up the pyramid.

  • this video made me so hopeful for our future as a nation. 

  • what you fucking morons dont get that we dont want bigger government we want smaller corporations but what you want is complete corporate enslavement .

  • @polabear001 then you need smaller government

  • @polabear001

    What you fucking morons don't get is that big governments are the ones giving the corporations power

  • yeah these leftists drink at thewell of marxism everyday they don't have anytype of higher intellectual authority than marx.So they actually believe in marx's imaginary capitalism and so they they think the solution is socialism

  • Great interview and coverage at OWS.

  • great interview. i want a button like his :)

  • The top 1% of the US is around 360k a year. Globally, it is much lower.

  • Anarcho-Slavery FTW!

  • You may want to consider interviewing an Anarcho-Syndicalist too.

  • thank you, Adam for fair coverage ;)

  • I'm an anarcho-capitalist too. Thanks for spreading the truth.

  • They say that theft, rape, drugs at these rallies are 1000 time more rampant than expected and that behind the facade the real Wall Street Protesters have gone home, its just a mess of shit-heads without a single agenda and anti work or earn ethics.

  • it's so retarded how they call OWS a "free market of ideas", while hating on moneyless economic models. cause, you know, the people at OWS don't really use any money to exchange their ideas, do they?? so how in the world is it a "free market of ideas"? if anything, it's a resource-based economy of ideas.

  • @TZMAustria Anarcho-capitalists don't "hate on" money-less systems. They "hate on" coercive violence, the kind of coercive violence that all centrally planned economies require. They don't use money to exchange ideas because money is not an economic good, as in its use doesn't need to be optimized. Everyone can have equal use of an idea without diminishing the use of its originator or anyone else for that matter. You're one of those Zeitgeist people aren't you? Read "Socialism" by Mises.

  • @ArmednSafe a Resource-Based Economy (RBE), as advocated by the Zeitgeist Movement, does not require any violence or coercion. in fact, an RBE is a strictly voluntary, non-violent, non-coercive socio-economic system. it is based on the voluntary will of everyone who participates in that RBE.

    the Zeitgeist Movement fully recognizes that a centrally planned economy based on any sort of violence or coercion is both inhumane and doomed to fail.

    that is why an RBE is a 100% voluntary approach.

  • @ArmednSafe also, please note that an RBE is not centrally planned. you may have heard people say that it is, but if you go back to the actual information provided by the Zeitgeist Movement about the RBE, you will see that an RBE is definitely NOT centrally planned.

  • Comment removed

  • @TZMAustria No, it definitely is. Any system that doesn't have individuals exchanging voluntarily is centrally planned. And relabeling socialism as a "Resource Based Economy" doesn't change anything about socialism. It's still impossible because of the calculation problem. Again, read Mises's short book "Socialism". It explains that a system without market prices has no way of comparing steel to books, computers to sandwiches, or land to jet engines.

  • @ArmednSafe you're saying if it isn't a market, it must be centrally planned, and that is a complete logical fallacy. if you seriously believe that the only two possible forms of economy in the universe are a market and a centrally planned economy, then your thinking is tragically limited.

    an RBE is not re-labeled socialism. there are significant differences that simply make it idiotic to call an RBE "socialism". when two things are significantly different, why call them by the same name?

  • @ArmednSafe and i don't care that "a system without market prices has no way of comparing steel to books, computers to sandwiches, or land to jet engines".

    there is NO NEED to compare those things in an RBE. that is what you simply refuse to understand in your limited thinking.

    in an RBE, the people simply cooperate to produce whatever the society needs (aided by automation), and then everyone simply has access to whatever they need. there is no necessity to define "values" or "prices".

  • @TZMAustria This is what you fail to understand: There are an unlimited number of things that CAN be produced and an unlimited number of WAYS to produce each thing. There are a very limited number of things to produce in a certain WAY that doesn't destroy resources. If there are no prices telling producers that they are or are not successfully creating resources, then all manner of foolish destruction can go on. Prices are necessary to guide production, no matter how automated it is.

  • @ArmednSafe "producers creating resources"??? since when do producers CREATE resources? i think you got something seriously mixed up there.

    you just keep repeating "prices are necessary", and i guess there won't be any way to get you to understand that they aren't. so i wish you a good day and good luck with your outdated beliefs.

  • @TZMAustria Anything that has value is a resource. Oil used to be a nuisance to find on farm land. If a company creates something of greater value than the inputs in the process, then it is creating resources. Without prices based on voluntary exchange, how can you tell whether society would rather have the inputs to a process for another purpose?

  • @ArmednSafe i know what a resource is. but you said that "producers create resources", and that is simply wrong. do producers create oil? or was oil created by nature?

    you don't need prices. all you need is the data about demand and consumption.

  • @TZMAustria If anything that has value is a resource, then what goes into a firm is resources and what comes out is resources (hopefully). And in order to be "creating" resources, what goes in needs to be less valuable than what comes out. You still haven't answered my question. Without prices, how do you tell whether the products of a process are more valuable than the factors? In other words, how do you know that the factors wouldn't be better spent in some other way?

  • @ArmednSafe i'll ask you a counter-question: why would we even need to determine that? you only need to determine that in a monetary economy in the first place. in a resource-based economy, such a question is irrelevant, because something like a "value" has no practical meaning.

  • @TZMAustria I am glad you asked that. The reason we need to determine "value" is because value originates in the human mind. The subjective values that we all hold can't be compared and quantified in their original state (as thoughts & feelings). The value we place on things manifest themselves in the "real world" when we exchange for them. A currency puts all these subjective values in a single unit that can be compared. Without voluntary exchange, any unit of account would be arbitrary.

  • @ArmednSafe so your explanation to my question "why do we need to determine values" is "because values originate in the human mind"?? that doesn't make any sense. it still doesn't answer why we NEED to determine values in the first place. i can easily imagine a socio-economic system without the need for values, so the problem is clearly your inability to imagine such a system.

  • @TZMAustria I'm assuming that you want to produce products that people want, right? Well, the way to make products is with factors. And you want to make sure that the products are wanted more than the factors, right? So, unless you want to end up with a bunch of stuff that no body wants, you need prices to calculate whether you're "producing value". Or to put it another way, to calculate whether you're creating things that people want more out of things that people want less.

  • @ArmednSafe no, your thinking is limited to what you know from the current economic system. in order to produce the products that people want, all you need is constant dynamic information about usage and demand, which you can easily get from the inventory databases of every store. that is how it already works today. shop-owners don't look into their cash register to determine what products to order, they look into their inventory databases. and that's how an RBE works as well.

  • @TZMAustria You're naive to think that. If people aren't charged a price, the stores will be stripped clean. And if you don't have an incentive for entrepreneurs, you'll never have new products. Have you read Mises's "Socialism" yet? What you're proposing is an end to civilization. When Lenin decreed that prices were illegal in the Soviet Union, it wasn't long before people in the cities were burning pieces of their houses to keep warm.

  • @ArmednSafe what you're not understanding is that an RBE is based on a change of values. Lenin's Soviet Union wasn't. it was a top-down socialist approach that obviously couldn't work. what the Zeitgeist Movement talks about is a bottom-up approach, based on education and awareness. an RBE cannot work with the people's mindsets of today. that is why we try to create awareness for topics like sustainability and technological possibilities. people's values and education need to improve.

  • @TZMAustria "A change of values?" How do you measure that? Why couldn't a "top-down" socialist system work, and why can a "bottom-up" socialist system work? These are questions that need answers, precise answers. I have proved to you why prices based on voluntary exchange are the only non-arbitrary way of determining value. Can you prove that there is another way?

  • @ArmednSafe no, i have no interest in proving that there is "another way of determining values", because there is no necessity to "determine values" at all. those "values" seem to be a total dogma to you, which is sad. think outside that box.

    a top-down socialist system doesn't work because in it, the people don't voluntarily contribute to society. in a bottom-up resource-based economy on the other hand, the people would understand that if everyone does a little part, everyone can live well.

  • @TZMAustria Good doublethink, Orwell would be proud. You just said that an "RBE" is based on a change of values. Then you said that you don't care about values. The reality is, if you want to make things that people want/value (there is no difference) you need a measurement of value. A system without voluntary exchange (people's value scales manifesting themselves in the observable world) cannot measure value and therefore you will end up with a bunch of junk no one wants.

  • @ArmednSafe OH COME ON. those are two different meanings of the word "value" in the english language, and you know it. it's sad that even such a cheap shot isn't below you.

    the first "value" was about when you said "prices based on voluntary exchange are the only non-arbitrary way of determining value".

    and the second "values" was about the values that people live by.

    you just disqualified yourself from this conversation by this pathetic attempt.

  • @TZMAustria I didn't realize you meant two different kinds of values. Either way, I'm right that if you don't want to end up with a bunch of junk no one wants, you need a way of measuring and comparing human wants. And the only way to do that is with voluntary exchange.

  • Comment removed

  • @TZMAustria You may think "outside the box", but I refuse to think outside of reality. And you're explanation of why a top-down socialist system won't work but a bottom-up system will, doesn't expound on an inherent difference between the two systems. A person can voluntarily follow orders, like people do at their jobs every day.

  • @ArmednSafe people don't follow orders voluntarily at their jobs. they are forced to by a system that otherwise will drop them.

  • Comment removed

  • it just shows that the protesters are dirty scumbags...

  • i wonder if all these idiot socialists know that socialist countries force the people of their countries into military service when they turn 18....

  • Freemarket voluntarist activists are so sexy!

  • @frankylovesyall The only contradiction is slavery... or in post-modern era could me mental-slavery. When people accept their slavery cognitively and are ok with their personal satisfaction so they are blind to it. Or closely related would be a 3rd world society. Response, I like actually discussion from people who have minds... Lucky for us we non-1% have the means to communicate and congregate still.

  • can we ever change the system from within?

  • I just came back from this hippie shithole. I was amazed at the socially awkward,cowardly, COMMUNIST douche bags at this "protest". I went there expecting to see well researched/ educated college students but I came in contact with spoiled brats who have never worked a day in their lives and have their little begging plates all around. The people there are around 20% Libertarian(ish), 60% extreme left, 10% there for free food, 5% Pot heads, and 5% there to fuck hippie sluts.

  • @whiteyonwelfare 5% there to fuck hippie sluts (raises hand)

  • @whiteyonwelfare But you have to admit, those hippie sluts are hot as fuck!

  • Hope

  • i hope u have it covered to make sure police dont come raid the places to take ur stock and haveing the ppl in one little spot im not feeling to good about that

  • we really need a lot of those ppl to tell ppl how it is,i hope ur on that adam

  • Anarcho-Capitalism, an oxymoron.

  • I love how that guy in the beginning said Adam Smith wrote those books in the 1776 as if to imply that they are no longer relevant. Meanwhile he probably doesn't realize that the Communist Manifesto was written in 1848.

  • voluntarism is part of left anarchism as well

  • *facepalm*

  • The problem with "libertarians" (a term stolen from anarchists) and anarchocapitalists is they want a corporations and the rich to take over all the worst functions of the state. Under these guys' ideal world, we'd have the very rich amassing as much as they can, and then assembling private armies. The rest of us can either work for them, or live in a mad max scenario. We are not in an agrarian world anymore, these 18th and 19th century ideologies won't do.

  • @swckswck glad you said it so that I don't have to. Your version is also much cleaner than mine would have been...

  • world wide web dot well aware one dot com

  • They call guys like this idealistic. Well if you think for one minute that America WILL EVER and I mean EVER get a government that is anything other than former Business Owners, CEOs or Corp Lawyers than they are the ones living in the dreamworld haha. If they believe that the plan for bigger gov is going to stop capitalism then they are half right. Stop capitalism for the smaller companies but the big Boys won't be touched and the bigger government will protect them like always.

  • this guy dresses like what I would have thought a college liberal would have dressed like.

  • no, they really do love force, ask your average far left progressive if they think door to door gun confiscation is reasonable, or if more money should be taken from the working class to be given to the "poor" if you don't believe me

  • anarcho-syndicalists arent voluntaryists - they want a violent overthrow of capitalism - basically if you have a dime more than them you're to blame for all of their problems..... I used to be one too

  • I wanna button like that :(

  • What's the Chinese guy pointing at them with his thumb for at 4:55? Are the Chicom minders of the protests pissed there is someone there who is not with the program?

  • A nation lacking adults who can effectively run things voluntary will produce a nanny state.

  • The whole system is a scam

  • RON PAUL PLAN

    .

    END THE FED?...NONE

    .

    END HOMELAND SECURITY?...NONE

    .

    FUHRER RON PAUL 2012

    .

  • These idealistic ideas are silly

  • Great interview Adam!

    When its time to change to a new replacement system, which I assume will be some form of Mathematically Perfected Economy, soveriegn currencies will need to be reinstated around the world and lauched to coincide with an IDDD.

    International Debt Default Day.

    A prescribed day when EVERYONE simultaneously defaults on the interest portion of their borrowings. This will stop the Fed and its cronie banks around the world dead in their tracks.

  • Our constitutional government was originally set up to protect our rights from those that cannot follow the golden rule of doing unto others as they would have done to themselves. A corporation will never act upon those principles unless people force it to act in a constitutional way. Instead of anarcho-capitalism we need corporations to be viewed legally as mini states that can threaten the rights of the people and the powers of their constitutional government the way any state can. Regulate

  • @PolarityMovie Actually, the rights included in the Constitution were included to protect US (the people) from the being abused by the Government.

  • @whatthedormousesaid No matter how many times you explain it all they hear is "THE MAN IS HOLDING ME DOWN" The Man is screwing me" If you are rich or even a small business owner you trying to hurt me". haha I promise that is all those people heAR. . They want bigger government well guess what 95% of the politicians we have ever elected use to do for a living ? a lot of former Business owners, CEO's and Lawyers that worked for Major Companies. That will never change so smaller is better.

  • @grownman455 I think they want a bigger government because they think govt is there to protect their Constitutional rights; not that those Constitutional rights are there to protect them from the govt.

  • @whatthedormousesaid True!! The funny part is look at who is in the government former CEO's business owners and lawyers. So they want former business owners CEOS and lawyers to protect their Constitutional rights from current business owners, Ceos and Lawyers. haha So the answer is to give these guys more power? Like they are really going to turn on their friends in the business world for the American people. The American people will never elect the average guy so government has to stay small

  • @grownman455 It's like having foxes wearing blue business suits guard the hen-house from foxes wearing blue business suits and sunglasses.

  • @whatthedormousesaid thats what it sounds like to me to, they claim to "hate the system" and fight against fascism, but what it sounds like to me is they want more public sector jobs ( goverment jobs ) and more regulations, i think Anarcho-Capitalism is a good idea atleast what ive read so far, ive only been interested for a few days but it sounds like a excellent idea to me

  • Cant say I agree with everything this "teacher" has to say. A government is almost strictly a regulatory body and so one can argue for more or less government but really it is where government is applied that it is important. This anarchist cannot possibly think that a corporation (which I would argue is a state not an individual) or a self serving individual will always regulate or govern themselves properly.

  • Anyone reading this can you please look at the Occupy South Gate videos on my page. I want to get more local people out here any help would be really appreciated.

  • Refreshing....we need more michaels!!!! ...deprograming the brainwashed...it's still soaking in...but i was expertly brainwashed from childhood by the public education system...we all were.. :(

  • The interviewer is so condescending. I think both speakers in this vid underestimate the people taking part in OWS.

    And it isn't "ironic" that there is a "free market of ideas" at Zuccotti Park. This guy completely misses the point if he thinks OWS's primary complaint is against the "free market." The complaint is that the market is NOT FREE. It is not a level playing field. It is a RIGGED game, with the CROOKS running the show.

    Wake up!

  • Thank you Adam.

  • Few lines of Kokesh and you're good to go.

  • The problem is that.....most people are not as intelligent as this gentleman and Adam.

  • I don't like swearing here, but what kind of idiot would give this video the thumbs down??

  • he is excellent

  • Jesus Christ on the right at 4:39

  • YES! YES! YES! Find more like him! :)

  • Most of the problems we have are related to some people having too much land to manage alone and therefore needing others to not have enough land to be self sufficient.

  • Jesus is there :D

  • I'd like to follow this guy on Twitter....

  • I'm a libertarian, but I can't do the anarchy thing. You still need very minimal structure to society or else the whole thing collapses. Obviously that structure needs to come from communities rather than a central government, but the feds role is to keep us safe from military attack. They can't do much else.

  • @surfer53 An anarchist community would definitely protect itself from military attack, they would be forced to... People promoting anarcho-capitalism generally do so as a way to get there in say, 300 years... It will take a lot of education of morals and ethics and how the free market is the magic... You seem to be 99% onboard, so for modern times, I think most can say we agree :)

  • @surfer53 I'd submit that the role of government in general is only to uphold rational justice (ie court) and to protect citizens via military. Those are the only two things I don't see working in an anarchist society.

  • @surfer53 Great point

  • Props to that guy for being there in the lion's den.

  • well this was dumb. it was better at the beginning though.

  • Wheter you want it or not, this movement will end up with candidates for a new form of direct representation. Elected broadcasting live mandate, 100% transparent, whatever the political idea is.

  • The reason they are able to protest is because its on public property.... thats the big joke on your anarcho crapitalists... duh....

    In Adams society all property would be pulbic and defended by force...

  • RON PAUL!!

  • Loved that,

    It's good to see that there are people courageous enough to stand firm in their beliefs.

    When some of these kids shout "We are the 99%" and then "Bail out the students", they imply that I agree with them.

    I don't believe in bailouts of ANY SORT. We first must dissolve these corporate handouts, get out of these wars, and fix our broken society, and then we can focus on getting rid of Social Security, Welfare, Disability etc.

    I am the 99%, and I support The Constitution.

  • is that jesus in the back?

  • @btorrres18 Yeah dude, he told us he'd be back.

  • Yes, I like that approach.... both anarcho-syndicalists and anarcho-capitalists should join against the common enemy (the government and the bankers) instead of fighting each other.

    Since both are based on voluntarism I don't see why each of them couldn't live side by side, instead of trying to impose their ideology on each other.

  • This message could be dangerous

  • I think Ron Paul is a step in the right direction. He is radical enough to start the deconstruction of big government and cutting five cabinets, in his first year as president...aproximately $1.2 trillion the first year as well as bringing the troops home. Maybe with the right leadership we can return power to the people in this country.

  • @watertonrivers I agree. I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist but I support Ron Paul. I've spoken to a lot of anarchists who say things along the lines of "don't vote" and I disagree with that because the statists, they are going to be voting and we are just going to let them impose their ideas on us when we could be supporting a candidate who is for starting the destruction of big government.

  • @ValeriyaAviva Totally agree, not voting for any reason is not wise and I've heard all of the excuses. It is way past due, to put someone in office who will give the people a chance to thrive once again and the idea of returning our freedom, through the Constitution, by itself, is enough reason to vote for RP. Remember back before 9/11 when there was no such thing as TSA and DHS? Many children born after that point are growing up thinking it's normal to live in a police state!!!

  • @watertonrivers

    ditto

  • @kalidesu Help get the message out my friend, we've got to break the back of the Fed and croney capitalism.

  • Great interview Mr. Kokesh

  • You found an intelligent young man! :-)

    Anyone who pay annual taxes on their property, do NOT own it; they are only renting it from their government!

  • @MsWanderer1 I always think of it as paying them to leave me alone.

  • @hoosierhiver Have you been left alone or has your property rent continued to increase?

  • @MsWanderer1 they hiked it significantly last year

  • @MsWanderer1 And yet in an "anarcho"-Capitalist society Landlords would still rent out property. Genius I tell ya. Genius.

  • Admam You misssed the scop Jesus was just over there to Your right.

    

  • @JackFreeman4U wasn't it foretold that not all would see him when he returned? it has come true.......

  • Yes, that's what the corporations need, even MORE freedom to fuck the country up. Fucking ridiculous.

  • @anthraxmm Shows what you know, corporations depend on regulations to limit competition and set up cartels. Hell the concept of a corporations is that it's incorporated INTO the state.

    Yes more economic freedom would hurt corporations the most.

  • @anthraxmm If corporations loved free markets they would not squander hundreds of millions of dollars in lobbying to have regulations and taxation in their favor. I live in an ex soviet country and the resulting corruption from that system is off the charts. As long as you know the chief of police and the heads of the nation you get around any kind of regulation. The bigger the government control, the more corrupt the system is towards the ones able to buy the government officials. FACT 

  • @anthraxmm The only way corporations can "fuck up" the country now is through taking control of parts of the government. That's exactly what they've been doing through government organizations such as the Federal Reserve and the FDA. With a smaller government, they won't be able to do this anymore. They'll have to get their money legitimately.

  • It's important for people who are watching this, and aren't familiar with voluntaryism, that a voluntary society doesn't mean no rules, it means no rulers. Natural rights and common law would still exist.

  • fkw hat he said im still anarcho communist

  • My names Michael and I'm an An-Cap

    (AA chant) Hi Michael.

  • Volunteerism is still open to external corporate and interest group manipulation.

    There are a small number of laws that need to be enforced by force. But a hell of a lot fewer than currently are.

    And what if a persons ability to opt out kills their children. I won't pay taxes or for my electricity. Therefore I will receive no electricity or protection from law enforcement.(what taxes cover) Children freeze 2 death in winter

    Have no idea what system would work. But any would sans Corruption