think of the bermuda triangle, and the Kennedy center triangle is a perfect realization conducted in 3-4 sec difference. an allowable tolerance for a mistake but not for two others. From Albania
@autoad, thanks for the insight... I don't really have a clue about firearms or sniper training. My comment was more of an observation and rather naive. Much respect!
@uranorexic Actually, it looks like you're the one spending time at the keyboard hammering away at me with personal attacks, insults, name-calling and swearing.
You use lots of words but you don't say anything. You make lots of noise for the sake of making noise and that doesn't take any talent.
@uranorexic By the way, Barnum never said that. If you had any appreciation for truth in history you would have known that. Google this so you can learn something "The Cardiff Giant".
When you've got something worthwhile to read let me know. If your going to post more childish rants, profanities, personal insults and maniacal tirades share them with your playground buddies.
@uranorexic I didn't block you! I was looking forward to see how you were going to respond to my comments so it would be foolish on my part to block you. Thanks for posting your insane rants for the world to see.
@uranorexic Typical goofball conspiracy loon. Not only can't they think for themselves but when their so called "logic" is blown out of the water they resort to insults, diminishments and lots of upper case letters.
Blakey has a theory. And Blakey will tell you that. But you'd be happier living in your deluded conspiracy world where the things that happened in Dealey Plaza didn't happen and the things that didn't happen did.
You have no idea what to say so you rely on the personal insults.
Oswald's best opportunity was when the car was making the sharp turn. This was the time that JFK was closest to Oswald and the vehicle would have also slowed down; b ut then, he might have believed that escaping at that moment might have been more difficult.
@hendrixsj75 I don't agree. The target is moving from left to right. Oswald would have to pan the rifle too much at that point. He fired at exactly the right point. He used the tree as cover so the Secret Service would have difficulty spotting him and the target had the appearance of being stationary in his sights.
Physics do not allow JFK's head to be thrown back and to the left if he was hit with a bullet from this angle. JFK was shot by a man on the grassy knoll, in front of his limousine.
@StonewallJackson26 Nobody saw anyone firing a rifle from the knoll. There are no entry wounds to JFK's front or side. Bullets do not transfer their energy to the target they penetrate the target. There is ZERO evidence JFK was shot from the front.
@StonewallJackson26 There are NO entry wound to the front or side of JFK's head. You've got 9 forensic pathologists for the HSCA who said there is no evidence of shots striking the president from the front or side.
@StonewallJackson26 Then you must have some experience in conducting forensic examinations!
What part(s) of the autopsy photos made no sense?
What did you see specifically in the autopsy photos that gave you concern?
I do not have a medical background. So it's not possible for me to comment on the details of JFK's autopsy photos. Since it appears you have these skills I'm curious to discover what you saw that 9 other medical examiners missed.
@autoad I doubt you have even looked into this. Watched a decent documentary on Netflix about the assassination. Although I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist, I suspect that it was not Oswald that pulled the trigger. In the autopsy photos, you see a clean, concise exit wound in the back of JFK's head, when witnesses behind the motorcade claimed they saw JFK's entire back portion of his head blown out.
@autoad I doubt you have even looked into this. Watched a decent documentary on Netflix about the assassination. Although I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist, I suspect that it was not Oswald that pulled the trigger. In the autopsy photos, you see a clean, concise exit wound in the back of JFK's head, when witnesses behind the motorcade claimed they saw JFK's entire back portion of his head blown out.
@StonewallJackson26 And you expect me to seriously consider that an unnamed video about the assassination shows an exit wound to the back of JFK's head yet 9 forensic pathologists lead by Dr. Michael Baden (who is still very much alive) and had Dr. Cyril Wecht, a vocal critic of the original autopsy missed this important piece of information? Is the exit wound in the video identified by someone in the video or by a voiceover or did you spot this exit wound on your own?
@autoad I have seen a few, the JFK Assassination: Beyond Conspiracy. One simply titled the JFK Assassination. All go into depth about when Kennedy was killed, when Oswald was arraigned, when Jack Ruby was killed, the possible trajectory of the bullet, which makes no sense if it came from the depository. It goes into the other possible suspects, testimony from doctors who try to resuscitate JFK. I don't know exactly what happened by I smell something fishy.
@StonewallJackson26 The program "Beyoned Conspiracy" produced by ABC News gave a very good explanation of two important aspects of the assassination. First, the single bullet theory; Dale Myers gave a clear, concise explanation of how a single bullet traveled through JFK and into Connally. For me, the computer graphics were spot-on and made perfect sense. The second was the location of HBMcLain and the acoustics of the "recorded shots" on the Dallas PD Dictabelt.
@StonewallJackson26 As a former believer there was some kind of a conspiracy involved in the assassination, I am convinced that LHO was the single assassin of JFK. It's been nearly 50 years and nothing has leaked from the Mob. Nothing has leaked from any government agency or any individual from any agency connected to the government that lends credibility to all of the accusations of a conspiracy or cover-up. What would satisfy those that claim conspiracy? Nothing. Nothing would satisfy them.
@autoad Ok :) That is your opinion. And you have the right to it. I just PERSONALLY believe there was more to the story than what the Warren Commission stated.
It's more than an opinion-it's a fact! Nothing has leaked in nearly 50 years. There have been scores of former mobsters who have become witnesses for the govt and none of them has even hinted at a Mob connection to the assassination.
Over 40 years ago the Warren Report was released and to this day there isn't a single alternative theory that challenges their findings with any credible evidence.
@autoad -- NUT "no evidence" ie,. eyes closed and ears covered, you see and hear nothing.
Your opinion is as solid as vacuous patter. There's rather a GREAT deal more evidence than not, the Warren Report contains innumerable omission, falsehoods, suborned testimony, reports by intimidated witnesses, gross exaggerations, outright lies & irrational conclusions. The single most important question re. EVERY murder hasn't been asked, let alone answered. WHAT was the motive? Oswald wasn't a commie.
@starmanskye Every murder don't have to have a motive. People are shot for no reason whatsoever. Do we not prosecute killers because we can't show motive? Of course not! Means and opportunity are the two mains components in the prosecution of the accused. Oswald had both means and opportunity and the evidence against him is overwhelming and ironclad. He's not just guilty...he's guilty as sin.
@autoad he may have had means in that he worked in the building but to have the opportunity to shoot jfk you have to put him in the snipers nest ,even dallas police chief jesse curry said they never could put him in that building with a rifle in his hands .we have to leave opinion at the door and study what we know are facts ,3 people saw oswald on the 1st floor up till midday in the lunchroom and a fourth witness saw oswald in the lunchroom about 12.15 ---------------------------------
@autoad bonny ray williams was on the 6th floor as late as 12.20 if not a few minutes later he never saw or heard oswald ,now the problem with this is arnold rowland saw a negro in the snipers nest window (which is the southeast corner of the building ) at about 12.15 when the commission say oswald was hiding in there and he also saw a man on the southwest side of the building with a rifle at this time .there is no way if bonny ray is there and he was there that he --------------
@autoad couldnt have heard or seen this man .now if oswald is still in the lunchroom at 12.15 or so he cant be the man rowland saw can he .also the negro rowland saw in the snipers nest window at 12.15 was elderly 50 or so years old (that cant be williams he was a younger man ) but charles givens fits the description well . we get a good idea of the time williams left the 6th floor from jarmin and norman who were outside the building ------------------------------
@autoad they heard that jfk was on main street this was about 12.20 maybe a few minutes later howard brennan heard the same thing and noted the time as 12.22 . norman and jarmin make their way around the back of the building and go up to the 5th floor probably arriving about 12.25 williams joins them shortly after that . so williams was on the 6th floor untill very close to 12.25 and he took the lift down one floor to meet jarmin and norman .
@fobrien1 I have an idea; lets get rid of all the eye and earwitness testimony and focus only on the the physical, medical, ballistic and forensic evidence. Then we'll discuss those items what can be measured, tested and examined.
@autoad some witnesses can be ruled unreliable for one reason or another but i see no reason to dismiss all witnesses ,but i can see why you would not want williams on the 6th floor as late as maybe 12.25 ,i can see why carolyn arnold /piper/givens/shelly would be a problem aswell .not to mention sandra styles /victoria adams and dorothy garner . you said oswald had both means and opportunity ,i said he had the means as he worked in the building but opportunity is a little more difficult -----
@fobrien1 Are you aware the TSBD was a warehouse that was filled with cartons of books that were stacked about 6 feet high? Are you aware that LHO built a snipers nest so he would be shielded from anyone walking on the 6th floor from seeing him? Apparently, it worked. Styles and Adams descended the stairs well after the shots were fired. So how are you going to evaluate the quality of the witnesses? You want to eliminate some of them. I say we dump them all and focus on the physical evidence.
@autoad im aware there was a lot of boxes of books that were moved by oswalds co workers who were laying the plywood floor ,these account for all most all the boxes within the snipers nest so if your saying oswald moved all these boxes to conceal himself i have to say that your in error .however there was a stack of 4 boxes inside the snipers nest by the window which the sniper may have moved to rest his rifle upon ,i say may because the floor laying staff may have moved these boxes also.
@autoad another witness was with styles and adams that was dorothy garner ,she said after the last shot herself and styles /adams ran to the 4th floor stairs (i believe they said this was no more than 30 seconds after the last shot ) styles /adams ran down stairs never seeing or hearing oswald .garner stayed on the 4th floor landing and saw trully and baker emerge from the 4th floor stairs .now the commission did time trials to see how long would take oswald to reach the 2nd floor------------
@autoad if memory serves me the time the wc did it was about 74 seconds ,about 40 seconds of which was taken up on the 6th floor due to having to cover about 185 hide the rifle and then run to the stairs .this means styles/adams/garner would have been on the 4th floor landing by the stairs 10 seconds before oswald enters the 5th floor stairs . theres no physical way oswald could have reached the 4th floor stairs at 30 seconds as no time trial ever achieved this .------------------------
@autoad so oswald couldnt have been on the 4th floor stairs running ahead of styles and garner its physicly impossible , dorothy garner stayed on the 4th floor landing after styles/adams went down stairs and saw baker and trully come up but never saw oswald go down ,and oswald would have had to pass her but he never did .
@fobrien1 I subscribed to your channel. Looks like you and I are both on The Dark Side. Lee was not on the 6'th floor. I think the Snipers Nest and the planted Carcano was a ruse. And Victoria is one of my hero's.
@conspiracydog11 certainly there are a lot of problems with the case against oswald ,the more one looks at the testimonies in detail and the affidavits fbi reports etc etc we see a different picture of the evidence against oswald then what the commission painted .adams is attacked a lot because her story differs slightly to styles but garner corroberated adams story and the fbi knew that yet the commission chose to go with styles version of events .
@fobrien1 I agree. Looks like the shot from the front would have been much easier. The shooter could have easily put in place a screen of boxes to shield himself from the road while leaving a small gap for the weapon. Lee was a Marine. He would have been trained in ambush tekniques. If he was not going to do a front shot I think he would have gone to the other end of the floor. It would have been closer to the target.
@fobrien1 And as Victoria reported the shots came from below her, I think the shooters were actually in an office on the 2'nd of 3'rd floor of the building and on the Grassy Knoll.
@autoad OK, good idea - focus on physical evidence (and MISSING evidence, fair enough?). The cleaning of the LIMO..! "fixing" the autopsy! IGNORING the Dr.'s testimony that the BACK of JFK's head was BLOWN out! The MISSING head shot bullet, picked up just past the curb in the infield by a "suit". Mac Wallace fingerprints on the boxes (LBJ's henchman). Missing bullet fragments from Connally. The Mauser rifle ALSO found on the 6th floor (Roger Craig). Bullet through windshield..etc..???
@Tomaji69 Everyone one of your examples is a red herring- The Mac Wallace fingerprints were never identified as a match to Wallace. You need to have a minimum number of identification marks for the prints be be called a match-these didn't have the minimum. Sorry, try again. There was never a bullet hole through the windshield. There was a break in the glass on the inside from the fragments of the third shot but there was never a hole. "Fixing' the autopsy is pure hogwash. The Drs. at Parkland
@Tomaji69 never turned JFK over and never saw the back of his head. The Z-film shows the particulate matter from the third shot going forward. There was no matter ejected out the back of his head. They were driving into a wind that gusted up to 20mph an some of the matter got caught onto the wind and covered one of the motorcycle police officers. The was never a bullet found in Dealey Plaza on the grassy surface. There was a picture of a man in a suit and a story was created around the picture.
@Tomaji69 There was never a missing bullet from Connally. If you're referencing the video that shows the Dr. speaking to the press at Parkland telling them that the bullet was about to be removed from JC's leg, there's more to that story. The Dr. giving the press conference was the Dr attending to JC's chest wound. There was another Dr. attending to the leg wound. The bullet barely entered JC's leg and it fell out. When they examine the wound there was no bullet. It was found later and became
@Tomaji69 CE399. That bullet was ballistically matched to LHO rifle to the exclusion of all other rifles.
Aside from the obvious tragedy that occurred in Dallas another tragedy has occurred. Money grubbing profiteers have been making a living off the body of JFK with their outrageous and unsupportable accusations against people and groups for the past 50 years. The last time I looked it was over 250 individuals and 80 different groups that have been accused of planning, executing and covering
@Tomaji69 up the assassination of JFK. This is pure foolishness and a barbaric exploitation of a national tragedy.
If you're convinced there was a conspiracy, then which one was it? There are dozens of them and simple logic states that all of them cannot be correct simultaneously.
@StonewallJackson26 i would disagree with autoad regarding the documentary beyond conspiracy for a few reasons ,the first being documenatries and books can be biased(and having researched this case i can say that is the case with this documentary) there is no comparrison to simply viewing the actual evidence for instance ce399 . a few things make ce399 (the magic bullet) a joke ,the first being its near pristine condition which the commissions own experts ------------------
@fobrien1 told the commission could not have smashed some 5 inches of rib and shattered a dense wrist bone and emerged in near pristine condition, even the commision having fired test bullets at goat ribs and human wrist could not produce a bullet any where near pristine in condition with the exception of two bullets fired into cotton wadding . but of course myers wont tell you about or show you these test bullets .---------------
@StonewallJackson26 myers also decieved people in his video ,he elongated jfks neck and had his coat collar riding very high up the keck to about the level of the ears .the reason for this may not be immediately evident but its simple ,he knows where the bullet hole is on jfks jacket (its to low on the back )so you elongate the neck have the jacket riding up the neck to the ears and that puts the wound higher up (by the neck ) but the wound wasnt up on the neck. -------------
@StonewallJackson26 what he does with connally is even less excuseable ,he moves connally and the jump seat (in unison ) some 6 inches to the left . this is to get connally into a position to make the SBT work ,but we know and even myers acknowledges that the jump seat was no more than 2.25 inches inboard and that puts myers trajectory off by atlaest 3.75 inches .but you wont hear myers say any of this in his video .also where the bullet entered jfks back-------------
@StonewallJackson26 it entered at a downward angle (obviously ) and then had to change direction slighty in an upwards direction to exit the throath (and they say this bullet struck no bone in jfk ) even vincent bugliosi couldnt disagree with that when in a televised debate with wecht so how can this bullet change direction upwards ? . the bethesda staff say the back wound was shallow (that the bullet only entered an inch or two) how did they know this ? ---------------------
@StonewallJackson26 because they probed the back wound with a finger and a surgical probe .again myers makes no mention of all this ,what was it autoad said oh yes "Dale Myers gave a clear, concise explanation of how a single bullet traveled through JFK and into Connally" hogwash . also myers places jfk very close to connally jfks kness all but touch the back of the jump seat ,look at the video and the z film and see if you think myers was correct .
Of course Oswald did it . It is just unbearable for most people to accept that such a simple man killed such an important man. I think that is one of the biggest misunderstanding in recent history...
After seeing some of these virulent posts, I have come to the conclusion that there is nothing safe in searching YT with the words "JFK" "Jesus" or "Justin Beiber". ;-)
Comments on JFK videos are always funny. Despite the overwhelming evidence that the shots were fired from above and behind... knowledge of the "jet effect"... and various discovery channel specials having reproduced the path of the "magic bullet"... armchair doctors and physicists still cling to grand conspiracy claims. It is a testament to the confirmation bias in humanity.
i agree. I just finished Bugliosi's Reclaiming History. Oswald was guilty as hell. The conspiracy nuts have gone on to produce Truthers and Birthers. I fear for our country when something so obvious has been warped by loonie conspiracy nuts.
Hey, check out the Socrates Johnson video for the song 'Rambler Man', which tells the story of Roger Craig - who saw what he said was Oswald being picked up shortly after the assasination in a Rambler Station wagon.
Part of it is filmed from the old Court House Building and Dealey plaza
Nice video that proves to me that if Oswald would have planed to shoot the President from the 6th flood window he would have taken his shots as the motorcade was traveling towards him on Houston. No one would choose the much harder shots (with that piece of crap rifle) with the motorcade going down and away on Elm St. It really makes no sense whatsoever!
@univibe23 The shot while the motorcade was moving away is a smarter and easier shot. Oswald used the tree as cover which bought him a few seconds of time.
Firing from behind makes it tougher to pinpoint the location of the shots. With the motorcade moving away from Oswald, the target, while moving, presents itself as a nearly stationary.
Oswald took the smartest and best shot. After all, look what happened.
How stupid can ppl be.Oswald did not shoot the president. He may have been involved as low level CIA, and got foocked over and turned into a patsy. TOO much evidence goes against the lone gunmen and magic bullet theory.
many so-called jet trails ARE in fact, chem-trails...but back to subject. jfk was the last REAL democratic president, we have had brutes like lbj, do-nothings like carter,degenerates like clinton, and now NWO poster boy, obama... sad indeed
@graciemaemarie11 i agree with most of what you said. but how is clinton a degenerate? he presided over the longest period of economic growth in us history. he created almost 23 million jobs. and he tried to go after bin laden and afghanistan before the rest of the gov't even knew what a threat they were.
@graciemaemarie11 because then the triangulated fire myth would,nt have been born, they made it blatantly obvious that LHO did,nt do it to lead us to the triangulated fire nonesense.
CONSIDER THESE : Lee H. Oswald had about 6 seconds for 3 shots, time zero 1st shot, time 5sec., 2nd shot , time 6 sec. 3rd shot. Dozen of witness heard this
timing one shot and the last 2 together which is impossible to operate. One of the shots were about 15 above the target to hit the curb that had to come from another rifle. Usually the last shot is the hardest on a target on movement, how come he got that perfect. Mr. Delgado served w/ LHO said he was a bad shot.
@grettoz Sure he was at the window ! He was shot from behind & only behind ! You talk like you read Vincent Bugliosi Book of 1600 pages. You have not seen enough clips at YT. Wise up !!!
@grettoz That is my kind of guy STUDY FACTS. Ok study these CLIPS but promise to get back to me with a reasonable explanation, please no BS. " Zapruder film Slow" jfk pushed against the seat violently after the sigh jfk grabbed his throat "Bullet Holes in the Limousine" an officer would pass a pencil thru a hole in the windshield. " One Rifle or Two " Gil Jesus shows the slings straps on the BOTTOM of the Carcano with Oswald in his backyard and the one found at TSBD the slings are on the SIDE.
@grettoz I also got the flu but did not stop me, look this: SHOCKING !!! Besides the 3 shots another bullet was located at Connally's left thigh, making it 4 shots. Clip " JFK assassination AMAZING medical evidence news"
sounds like your medical knowledge is as good as your historical knowledge?? if you truly had flu like me you wouldnt be able to switch a computer on, let alone study & comment on a film clip!! i will go what about 95% of right thinking experts say, & that is 3 shots fired from above & behind... any other conclusion is pure fantasy!!!!
@grettoz Wait a minute what kind of answer is that " I will go what about 95% of right thinking experts say"
WC, Bugliosi & Posner thinking that is the only experts left. The 3 clips + 1 clip I sent you,you did not comment at all, you said you are a man who STUDY THE FACTS. You know what you are another phony, cynical, hypocrite who can not accept the real facts, for you would be like change your gender, you would be in a twilight zone. What kind of life is that MORON !!! JERK !!! BEAST !!!
@grettoz You have not commented anything you Fucking LIAR, you first contact me with your posting, if you do not know anything about JFK stay QUIET, do not talk about my intelligence IDIOT you never debate anything with me to check my intelligence ASS HOLE !!!
@grettoz SHUT UP !!!! IMBECIL !!!! people like you should stay away from YT, it is annoying nobody learn anything with guys like you. Go to a library and read some books then you can comeback as a MAN.
@grettoz If you are having hard time to see well " Zapruder Film Slow " try "Zapruder Film Stabilized" but don't forget to get back to me with your studies and results, OK !
@nicenonya3 In my opinion there's 5 shots 2 simultaneously: 1.Mac Wallace(LBJ buddy) 6th fl.hit Connally only, 2.Nicoletti from the 2nd fl. Daltex Bldg. hit the curb near overpass. 3. Unknown from the Knoll crossing Elm St. hit JFK in the throat. 4. Unknown (maybe someone wearing a Cowboy Hat) behind the retaining wall & fence, left a trace on the grass cross Elm street, see "Bullet Holes in the Limousine" & "Badge Man at Grassy Knoll". 5. Head, behind the fence" The Critical Minutes" at 0:53.
Oswald never shot anyone from the 6th floor. No one did.
That was the planted evidence room for the patsy. All show & tell for public consumption.
Think !! ANY assassin refuse a clear shot on Houston, coming at him, slowing in front of him for the turn onto Elm? So he can shoot a rifle bullet through the tree twigs?
Remember James Teague standing by the bridge and the curb strike bullet next to him? A heavy rifle bullet deflected to there? BS !
@mrgreyshadow very easy shot less than 100 yards in a straight line 3.9 degree od declinatation so you dont have to constantly raise the rifle and just moving 11 mph
Ok, look at Zapruder's film from frames Z277-Z312 (Z313 is fatal shot) and tell me if Kennedy's head does indeed look straight. Look at his Right shoulder and how it is elevated. Look at how he starts to slide down the seat. Also, his back is not flat against the seat, but you can see his right shoulder turned towards Jackie. His head is also tilted down and the the left a bit.
Go to the video titled, Texas School Book Depository Employees - Part 3
At the 2:56 minute mark, you will see & hear James Jarman, Jr... He is the man who assassinated President Kennedy.
The two previous guys shown, Norman & Williams were co-conspirators. Along with Charles Douglas Givens (Not shown)...
Do an "MSN" search with the key words, James Jarman, Jr., Assassin, for the entire story... The 8th site listed, "The John F" is the most comprehensive...
There wasn't a better time to shoot from the TSBD than when it actually happened. The sight line is clear, the target isn't moving side-to-side, and there are no other people or windshields between Oswald and the President.
Yup, agreed. As a matter of fact, by the third shot, it was easier because Oswald a that point just had to make small vertical adjustments, not as you said, more dramatic horizontal corrections as with the first shot.
omg the damn guy died like how many years ago get the heck over it wether oswald did it or not the guy died im intrested about what really happened but god all the conspiricy talk
I agree with you dear , dannyscap should show some respect Because on that day bullet not just killed a guy but killed our democracy . Most probably that bullet came in to the power afterward. We can wait forever to know about hands acting behind that bullet because I believe that only will re heal our democracy and for the big fish exposure of guilt is the punishment .
I believe Oswald was involved in it, although I don't believe he was the only shooter, if he shot at all. Jean Hill, who witnessed the shooting, said that right after the 3rd shot, she saw a man in a dark suit and hat running away from the TSBD, towards the fence. It was only after Oswald was killed, that she realized the man she had seen running that day, was Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby played a much bigger part in this whole thing, than just killing Oswald.
Ive been in law enforcement and security 23yrs plus been there at the sceen also no way no how did Oswald do it ,the government has so much to keep secret at any cost. Imagine what Kennedy knew and was about to expose..................Lets see if Mr Obama come forwared with anything
My friend, Kennedy was the last TRUE resident. He learned of the corruption within the government, especially the CIA, and wanted to spill the beans to be truthful to the people, and every president since LBJ knows what really happened, and although I like Obama, even he won't say anything. Nobody will. Either if Oswald did or didn't shoot JFK, Kennedy will never rest in peace.
I dont believe Oswald shot him. I believe he was there to provide a way in and be a scapegoat. Interesting that the grassy null is in view. Both shooters are in view to be able to signal each other.
That's a nice point, something I've always wondered myself. If you look at the Warren Ommission's drawings of JFK's head wounds, they're done in such a way as to create the illusion of a downward trajectory...but it's just not possible. The angle from TSBD to the car was 21 degrees.
I agree the Kennedy shots were clearly not from a high angle though the shot that hit John Connely must have been from quite a high angle. Must have been more than one gunamn.
i will not, and my opinion hasn't changed. I think it's messed up to sit around talking about different methods of killing a president. and the nerve to actually compliment the shooter on being a great marksman!?
WTF? Why, of course, Im going to blast JFK from the 6th foor TSBD window, but only when the tree branches & leafs are blocking my view. LOLOL.
The ASSHOLES in-the-know are still laughing at you fools for 45 years, for believing Oswald did it and from the TSBD.
The REAR shots(among others) were from the DalTex bldg across the street...2nd floor window...no trees...best elevation...minimal gun movement...with at least 1 German 7.65 Mouser...not with Oswalds coke bottle. TSBD was a diversion.
There is no evidence whatsoever of a shooter in the Dal Tex building firing a German 7.65 Mauser.
The majority of witnesses heard three shots from the direction of the TSBD and only bullets or fragments of bullets from a 6.5mm Mannlicher-Carcano were found which matched Oswald's weapon.
Daltex shooter lines up perfectly with tague being hit by stay bullett... view in this film shows that the missed shot was fired through the trees how did it riccochet all the wy down to curb near underpass, where tague was standing....impossible second shooter daltex building...
It would have been better for him to shoot as JFK was coming towards him, would have a better chance, no way once that car had turned they would have been a decent enough shot to hit
JFK's limo was flanked by four armed motorcycle cops. The limo was followed by a Cadillac with eight Secret Service men armed with handguns, shotguns and assault rifles. Not to mention armed policemen on the street.
If he opened fire from the front as the cavalcade was on Houston he would have come under a hail of gunfire.
Instead he opened fire from the rear as the limo headed downhill toward the mouth of the underpass.
Also as the car approached on Houston because the image of his target would have dropped lower and lower and would have been harder to track in the scope. The target was easier on Elm. The street slopes downhill but at a gentle angle and in south westerly direction and combined with slow moving car, the target would have appeared visually stationary but diminishing in size. Once the car cleared the tree branch the view is unrestricted and at under 100 yards is an easy shot for an ex-Marine.
if you look closely you see george bush behind the picket fence ..hes standing on the bumper of his chevy impala..he isnt doing anything...why couldnt they have shot him instead?
Bear in mind that the rifle found by the window was an Italian WW2 infantry rifle-notoriously inaccurate-very difficult to hit a barn door at that distance let alone a president.
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conspiracydog11 2 months ago
think of the bermuda triangle, and the Kennedy center triangle is a perfect realization conducted in 3-4 sec difference. an allowable tolerance for a mistake but not for two others. From Albania
anisa4162 5 months ago
Man, even the pigeons in the tree were shouting' coup, coup!
morrismagic08 5 months ago
@autoad, thanks for the insight... I don't really have a clue about firearms or sniper training. My comment was more of an observation and rather naive. Much respect!
hendrixsj75 5 months ago
@uranorexic Actually, it looks like you're the one spending time at the keyboard hammering away at me with personal attacks, insults, name-calling and swearing.
You use lots of words but you don't say anything. You make lots of noise for the sake of making noise and that doesn't take any talent.
autoad 5 months ago
@uranorexic The Cardiff Giant story shows that you were wrong about a quote made by Barnum.
autoad 5 months ago
@uranorexic By the way, Barnum never said that. If you had any appreciation for truth in history you would have known that. Google this so you can learn something "The Cardiff Giant".
When you've got something worthwhile to read let me know. If your going to post more childish rants, profanities, personal insults and maniacal tirades share them with your playground buddies.
autoad 5 months ago
@uranorexic I didn't block you! I was looking forward to see how you were going to respond to my comments so it would be foolish on my part to block you. Thanks for posting your insane rants for the world to see.
autoad 5 months ago
@uranorexic Typical goofball conspiracy loon. Not only can't they think for themselves but when their so called "logic" is blown out of the water they resort to insults, diminishments and lots of upper case letters.
Blakey has a theory. And Blakey will tell you that. But you'd be happier living in your deluded conspiracy world where the things that happened in Dealey Plaza didn't happen and the things that didn't happen did.
You have no idea what to say so you rely on the personal insults.
autoad 5 months ago
Oswald's best opportunity was when the car was making the sharp turn. This was the time that JFK was closest to Oswald and the vehicle would have also slowed down; b ut then, he might have believed that escaping at that moment might have been more difficult.
hendrixsj75 5 months ago
@hendrixsj75 I don't agree. The target is moving from left to right. Oswald would have to pan the rifle too much at that point. He fired at exactly the right point. He used the tree as cover so the Secret Service would have difficulty spotting him and the target had the appearance of being stationary in his sights.
autoad 5 months ago
Well done!
ajamoros 6 months ago
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NO WAY IN HELL!
rocky9298 6 months ago
Physics do not allow JFK's head to be thrown back and to the left if he was hit with a bullet from this angle. JFK was shot by a man on the grassy knoll, in front of his limousine.
StonewallJackson26 6 months ago
@StonewallJackson26 Nobody saw anyone firing a rifle from the knoll. There are no entry wounds to JFK's front or side. Bullets do not transfer their energy to the target they penetrate the target. There is ZERO evidence JFK was shot from the front.
autoad 5 months ago
@autoad The entrance would is actually more towards the front of JFKs head.
StonewallJackson26 5 months ago
@StonewallJackson26 There are NO entry wound to the front or side of JFK's head. You've got 9 forensic pathologists for the HSCA who said there is no evidence of shots striking the president from the front or side.
autoad 5 months ago
@autoad Well yeah, much of that is forged I believe. Even the autopsy photos make ZERO sense. I think there were bigger powers at work here.
StonewallJackson26 5 months ago
@StonewallJackson26 Then you must have some experience in conducting forensic examinations!
What part(s) of the autopsy photos made no sense?
What did you see specifically in the autopsy photos that gave you concern?
I do not have a medical background. So it's not possible for me to comment on the details of JFK's autopsy photos. Since it appears you have these skills I'm curious to discover what you saw that 9 other medical examiners missed.
autoad 5 months ago
@autoad I doubt you have even looked into this. Watched a decent documentary on Netflix about the assassination. Although I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist, I suspect that it was not Oswald that pulled the trigger. In the autopsy photos, you see a clean, concise exit wound in the back of JFK's head, when witnesses behind the motorcade claimed they saw JFK's entire back portion of his head blown out.
StonewallJackson26 5 months ago
@autoad I doubt you have even looked into this. Watched a decent documentary on Netflix about the assassination. Although I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist, I suspect that it was not Oswald that pulled the trigger. In the autopsy photos, you see a clean, concise exit wound in the back of JFK's head, when witnesses behind the motorcade claimed they saw JFK's entire back portion of his head blown out.
StonewallJackson26 5 months ago
@StonewallJackson26 And you expect me to seriously consider that an unnamed video about the assassination shows an exit wound to the back of JFK's head yet 9 forensic pathologists lead by Dr. Michael Baden (who is still very much alive) and had Dr. Cyril Wecht, a vocal critic of the original autopsy missed this important piece of information? Is the exit wound in the video identified by someone in the video or by a voiceover or did you spot this exit wound on your own?
autoad 5 months ago
@autoad I have seen a few, the JFK Assassination: Beyond Conspiracy. One simply titled the JFK Assassination. All go into depth about when Kennedy was killed, when Oswald was arraigned, when Jack Ruby was killed, the possible trajectory of the bullet, which makes no sense if it came from the depository. It goes into the other possible suspects, testimony from doctors who try to resuscitate JFK. I don't know exactly what happened by I smell something fishy.
StonewallJackson26 5 months ago
@StonewallJackson26 The program "Beyoned Conspiracy" produced by ABC News gave a very good explanation of two important aspects of the assassination. First, the single bullet theory; Dale Myers gave a clear, concise explanation of how a single bullet traveled through JFK and into Connally. For me, the computer graphics were spot-on and made perfect sense. The second was the location of HBMcLain and the acoustics of the "recorded shots" on the Dallas PD Dictabelt.
autoad 5 months ago
@StonewallJackson26 As a former believer there was some kind of a conspiracy involved in the assassination, I am convinced that LHO was the single assassin of JFK. It's been nearly 50 years and nothing has leaked from the Mob. Nothing has leaked from any government agency or any individual from any agency connected to the government that lends credibility to all of the accusations of a conspiracy or cover-up. What would satisfy those that claim conspiracy? Nothing. Nothing would satisfy them.
autoad 5 months ago
@autoad Ok :) That is your opinion. And you have the right to it. I just PERSONALLY believe there was more to the story than what the Warren Commission stated.
StonewallJackson26 5 months ago
@StonewallJackson26
It's more than an opinion-it's a fact! Nothing has leaked in nearly 50 years. There have been scores of former mobsters who have become witnesses for the govt and none of them has even hinted at a Mob connection to the assassination.
Over 40 years ago the Warren Report was released and to this day there isn't a single alternative theory that challenges their findings with any credible evidence.
But, you're free to believe whatever you want.
autoad 5 months ago
@autoad Yes I am.
StonewallJackson26 5 months ago
@autoad -- NUT "no evidence" ie,. eyes closed and ears covered, you see and hear nothing.
Your opinion is as solid as vacuous patter. There's rather a GREAT deal more evidence than not, the Warren Report contains innumerable omission, falsehoods, suborned testimony, reports by intimidated witnesses, gross exaggerations, outright lies & irrational conclusions. The single most important question re. EVERY murder hasn't been asked, let alone answered. WHAT was the motive? Oswald wasn't a commie.
starmanskye 5 months ago
@starmanskye Every murder don't have to have a motive. People are shot for no reason whatsoever. Do we not prosecute killers because we can't show motive? Of course not! Means and opportunity are the two mains components in the prosecution of the accused. Oswald had both means and opportunity and the evidence against him is overwhelming and ironclad. He's not just guilty...he's guilty as sin.
autoad 5 months ago
@autoad he may have had means in that he worked in the building but to have the opportunity to shoot jfk you have to put him in the snipers nest ,even dallas police chief jesse curry said they never could put him in that building with a rifle in his hands .we have to leave opinion at the door and study what we know are facts ,3 people saw oswald on the 1st floor up till midday in the lunchroom and a fourth witness saw oswald in the lunchroom about 12.15 ---------------------------------
fobrien1 3 months ago
@autoad bonny ray williams was on the 6th floor as late as 12.20 if not a few minutes later he never saw or heard oswald ,now the problem with this is arnold rowland saw a negro in the snipers nest window (which is the southeast corner of the building ) at about 12.15 when the commission say oswald was hiding in there and he also saw a man on the southwest side of the building with a rifle at this time .there is no way if bonny ray is there and he was there that he --------------
fobrien1 3 months ago
@autoad couldnt have heard or seen this man .now if oswald is still in the lunchroom at 12.15 or so he cant be the man rowland saw can he .also the negro rowland saw in the snipers nest window at 12.15 was elderly 50 or so years old (that cant be williams he was a younger man ) but charles givens fits the description well . we get a good idea of the time williams left the 6th floor from jarmin and norman who were outside the building ------------------------------
fobrien1 3 months ago
@autoad they heard that jfk was on main street this was about 12.20 maybe a few minutes later howard brennan heard the same thing and noted the time as 12.22 . norman and jarmin make their way around the back of the building and go up to the 5th floor probably arriving about 12.25 williams joins them shortly after that . so williams was on the 6th floor untill very close to 12.25 and he took the lift down one floor to meet jarmin and norman .
fobrien1 3 months ago
@fobrien1 I have an idea; lets get rid of all the eye and earwitness testimony and focus only on the the physical, medical, ballistic and forensic evidence. Then we'll discuss those items what can be measured, tested and examined.
How does that sound to you?
autoad 3 months ago
@autoad some witnesses can be ruled unreliable for one reason or another but i see no reason to dismiss all witnesses ,but i can see why you would not want williams on the 6th floor as late as maybe 12.25 ,i can see why carolyn arnold /piper/givens/shelly would be a problem aswell .not to mention sandra styles /victoria adams and dorothy garner . you said oswald had both means and opportunity ,i said he had the means as he worked in the building but opportunity is a little more difficult -----
fobrien1 3 months ago
@fobrien1 Are you aware the TSBD was a warehouse that was filled with cartons of books that were stacked about 6 feet high? Are you aware that LHO built a snipers nest so he would be shielded from anyone walking on the 6th floor from seeing him? Apparently, it worked. Styles and Adams descended the stairs well after the shots were fired. So how are you going to evaluate the quality of the witnesses? You want to eliminate some of them. I say we dump them all and focus on the physical evidence.
autoad 3 months ago
@autoad im aware there was a lot of boxes of books that were moved by oswalds co workers who were laying the plywood floor ,these account for all most all the boxes within the snipers nest so if your saying oswald moved all these boxes to conceal himself i have to say that your in error .however there was a stack of 4 boxes inside the snipers nest by the window which the sniper may have moved to rest his rifle upon ,i say may because the floor laying staff may have moved these boxes also.
fobrien1 3 months ago
@autoad another witness was with styles and adams that was dorothy garner ,she said after the last shot herself and styles /adams ran to the 4th floor stairs (i believe they said this was no more than 30 seconds after the last shot ) styles /adams ran down stairs never seeing or hearing oswald .garner stayed on the 4th floor landing and saw trully and baker emerge from the 4th floor stairs .now the commission did time trials to see how long would take oswald to reach the 2nd floor------------
fobrien1 3 months ago
@autoad if memory serves me the time the wc did it was about 74 seconds ,about 40 seconds of which was taken up on the 6th floor due to having to cover about 185 hide the rifle and then run to the stairs .this means styles/adams/garner would have been on the 4th floor landing by the stairs 10 seconds before oswald enters the 5th floor stairs . theres no physical way oswald could have reached the 4th floor stairs at 30 seconds as no time trial ever achieved this .------------------------
fobrien1 3 months ago
@autoad so oswald couldnt have been on the 4th floor stairs running ahead of styles and garner its physicly impossible , dorothy garner stayed on the 4th floor landing after styles/adams went down stairs and saw baker and trully come up but never saw oswald go down ,and oswald would have had to pass her but he never did .
fobrien1 3 months ago
@fobrien1 I subscribed to your channel. Looks like you and I are both on The Dark Side. Lee was not on the 6'th floor. I think the Snipers Nest and the planted Carcano was a ruse. And Victoria is one of my hero's.
conspiracydog11 2 months ago
@conspiracydog11 certainly there are a lot of problems with the case against oswald ,the more one looks at the testimonies in detail and the affidavits fbi reports etc etc we see a different picture of the evidence against oswald then what the commission painted .adams is attacked a lot because her story differs slightly to styles but garner corroberated adams story and the fbi knew that yet the commission chose to go with styles version of events .
fobrien1 2 months ago
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@fobrien1 I agree. Looks like the shot from the front would have been much easier. The shooter could have easily put in place a screen of boxes to shield himself from the road while leaving a small gap for the weapon. Lee was a Marine. He would have been trained in ambush tekniques. If he was not going to do a front shot I think he would have gone to the other end of the floor. It would have been closer to the target.
conspiracydog11 2 months ago
@fobrien1 And as Victoria reported the shots came from below her, I think the shooters were actually in an office on the 2'nd of 3'rd floor of the building and on the Grassy Knoll.
conspiracydog11 2 months ago
@autoad OK, good idea - focus on physical evidence (and MISSING evidence, fair enough?). The cleaning of the LIMO..! "fixing" the autopsy! IGNORING the Dr.'s testimony that the BACK of JFK's head was BLOWN out! The MISSING head shot bullet, picked up just past the curb in the infield by a "suit". Mac Wallace fingerprints on the boxes (LBJ's henchman). Missing bullet fragments from Connally. The Mauser rifle ALSO found on the 6th floor (Roger Craig). Bullet through windshield..etc..???
Tomaji69 1 month ago
@Tomaji69 Everyone one of your examples is a red herring- The Mac Wallace fingerprints were never identified as a match to Wallace. You need to have a minimum number of identification marks for the prints be be called a match-these didn't have the minimum. Sorry, try again. There was never a bullet hole through the windshield. There was a break in the glass on the inside from the fragments of the third shot but there was never a hole. "Fixing' the autopsy is pure hogwash. The Drs. at Parkland
autoad 1 month ago
@Tomaji69 never turned JFK over and never saw the back of his head. The Z-film shows the particulate matter from the third shot going forward. There was no matter ejected out the back of his head. They were driving into a wind that gusted up to 20mph an some of the matter got caught onto the wind and covered one of the motorcycle police officers. The was never a bullet found in Dealey Plaza on the grassy surface. There was a picture of a man in a suit and a story was created around the picture.
autoad 1 month ago
@Tomaji69 There was never a missing bullet from Connally. If you're referencing the video that shows the Dr. speaking to the press at Parkland telling them that the bullet was about to be removed from JC's leg, there's more to that story. The Dr. giving the press conference was the Dr attending to JC's chest wound. There was another Dr. attending to the leg wound. The bullet barely entered JC's leg and it fell out. When they examine the wound there was no bullet. It was found later and became
autoad 1 month ago
@Tomaji69 CE399. That bullet was ballistically matched to LHO rifle to the exclusion of all other rifles.
Aside from the obvious tragedy that occurred in Dallas another tragedy has occurred. Money grubbing profiteers have been making a living off the body of JFK with their outrageous and unsupportable accusations against people and groups for the past 50 years. The last time I looked it was over 250 individuals and 80 different groups that have been accused of planning, executing and covering
autoad 1 month ago
@Tomaji69 up the assassination of JFK. This is pure foolishness and a barbaric exploitation of a national tragedy.
If you're convinced there was a conspiracy, then which one was it? There are dozens of them and simple logic states that all of them cannot be correct simultaneously.
So which conspiracy felled JFK?
autoad 1 month ago
@autoad to prove , these people were there and either saw oswald or should have seen him and didnt .
fobrien1 3 months ago
@StonewallJackson26 i would disagree with autoad regarding the documentary beyond conspiracy for a few reasons ,the first being documenatries and books can be biased(and having researched this case i can say that is the case with this documentary) there is no comparrison to simply viewing the actual evidence for instance ce399 . a few things make ce399 (the magic bullet) a joke ,the first being its near pristine condition which the commissions own experts ------------------
fobrien1 1 week ago
@fobrien1 told the commission could not have smashed some 5 inches of rib and shattered a dense wrist bone and emerged in near pristine condition, even the commision having fired test bullets at goat ribs and human wrist could not produce a bullet any where near pristine in condition with the exception of two bullets fired into cotton wadding . but of course myers wont tell you about or show you these test bullets .---------------
fobrien1 1 week ago
@StonewallJackson26 myers also decieved people in his video ,he elongated jfks neck and had his coat collar riding very high up the keck to about the level of the ears .the reason for this may not be immediately evident but its simple ,he knows where the bullet hole is on jfks jacket (its to low on the back )so you elongate the neck have the jacket riding up the neck to the ears and that puts the wound higher up (by the neck ) but the wound wasnt up on the neck. -------------
fobrien1 1 week ago
@StonewallJackson26 what he does with connally is even less excuseable ,he moves connally and the jump seat (in unison ) some 6 inches to the left . this is to get connally into a position to make the SBT work ,but we know and even myers acknowledges that the jump seat was no more than 2.25 inches inboard and that puts myers trajectory off by atlaest 3.75 inches .but you wont hear myers say any of this in his video .also where the bullet entered jfks back-------------
fobrien1 1 week ago
@StonewallJackson26 it entered at a downward angle (obviously ) and then had to change direction slighty in an upwards direction to exit the throath (and they say this bullet struck no bone in jfk ) even vincent bugliosi couldnt disagree with that when in a televised debate with wecht so how can this bullet change direction upwards ? . the bethesda staff say the back wound was shallow (that the bullet only entered an inch or two) how did they know this ? ---------------------
fobrien1 1 week ago
@StonewallJackson26 because they probed the back wound with a finger and a surgical probe .again myers makes no mention of all this ,what was it autoad said oh yes "Dale Myers gave a clear, concise explanation of how a single bullet traveled through JFK and into Connally" hogwash . also myers places jfk very close to connally jfks kness all but touch the back of the jump seat ,look at the video and the z film and see if you think myers was correct .
fobrien1 1 week ago
was george bush sr at dallas?
canadamonster 7 months ago
@canadamonster So weren't about 500,000 other people. Are they suspects too?
autoad 5 months ago
LBJ & Hoover, Nov 29 63. Part of the recorded phone conversation pursuant to the creation of the Warren Commission.
LBJ: "Were THEY aiming at the President"?
Hoover: "THEY were aiming directly at the President"!
LBJ: "How did it happen that THEY hit Connally"?
And there it is. The assassination plot was given up by 2 of the biggest conspirator assholes. Greer is one of the assassins. Oswald is innocent.
jjh36Is 7 months ago
@jjh36Is Because the word "they" was used it makes them guilty??
Connally said "They're going to kill us all". - That makes him guilty.
Jackie said "I want them to see what they've done"- That makes her guilty
Mary Ann Moorman said to Jean Hill "Get down, they're shooting". That makes her guilty.
Your total lack of logic is amazing. Heaven help you if you get charged by a DA who thinks the same way you do.
autoad 5 months ago
@jjh36Is Typical of a conspiracy nut by taking a conversation out of context. Because the word "they" was used it makes them guilty"
Maryann Moorman- "Get down. They're shooting!"- GUILTY
John Connally- "They're going o kill us all!"-GUILTY
Jackie Kennedy- "I want them to see what they've done"-GUILTY
Foolishness and absurdities continue to flow from the minds of the conspiracy obsessed.
autoad 3 months ago
Pee-Wee Herman did it...
gerry3x 9 months ago
cia did it. oswald was a patsy.
louie2able 9 months ago
Of course Oswald did it . It is just unbearable for most people to accept that such a simple man killed such an important man. I think that is one of the biggest misunderstanding in recent history...
captainkavern 10 months ago
How in the fuck did the first shot miss the Motarcade entirely....
LiftAngry 10 months ago
WE ALL NO CHUCK NORRIS KILLED JFK
shanemcdonnll 10 months ago
After seeing some of these virulent posts, I have come to the conclusion that there is nothing safe in searching YT with the words "JFK" "Jesus" or "Justin Beiber". ;-)
1sababoy 11 months ago
Comments on JFK videos are always funny. Despite the overwhelming evidence that the shots were fired from above and behind... knowledge of the "jet effect"... and various discovery channel specials having reproduced the path of the "magic bullet"... armchair doctors and physicists still cling to grand conspiracy claims. It is a testament to the confirmation bias in humanity.
SolidSnake69XXX 1 year ago
@SolidSnake69XXX
i agree. I just finished Bugliosi's Reclaiming History. Oswald was guilty as hell. The conspiracy nuts have gone on to produce Truthers and Birthers. I fear for our country when something so obvious has been warped by loonie conspiracy nuts.
hownos 9 months ago
@hownos I've got this bridge,connects Brooklyn and Manhattan,gotta sell due to illness.......................
pranksterguy1 6 months ago
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Hey, check out the Socrates Johnson video for the song 'Rambler Man', which tells the story of Roger Craig - who saw what he said was Oswald being picked up shortly after the assasination in a Rambler Station wagon.
Part of it is filmed from the old Court House Building and Dealey plaza
PTroubadour 1 year ago
Nice video that proves to me that if Oswald would have planed to shoot the President from the 6th flood window he would have taken his shots as the motorcade was traveling towards him on Houston. No one would choose the much harder shots (with that piece of crap rifle) with the motorcade going down and away on Elm St. It really makes no sense whatsoever!
univibe23 1 year ago
@univibe23 The shot while the motorcade was moving away is a smarter and easier shot. Oswald used the tree as cover which bought him a few seconds of time.
Firing from behind makes it tougher to pinpoint the location of the shots. With the motorcade moving away from Oswald, the target, while moving, presents itself as a nearly stationary.
Oswald took the smartest and best shot. After all, look what happened.
LoneNutter1 11 months ago 6
@LoneNutter1 Exactly.
frankdrebin 4 months ago
guys it wasnt oswald cuz in the assassination the popo were running up the grassy knoll cuz the smelled gunpowder
TheCodmw2rocks 1 year ago
How stupid can ppl be.Oswald did not shoot the president. He may have been involved as low level CIA, and got foocked over and turned into a patsy. TOO much evidence goes against the lone gunmen and magic bullet theory.
nicenonya3 1 year ago
he had the perfect view, he shot jfk
grettoz 1 year ago
Oswald didnt have a view from the SBTD window because he wasnt there when Kennedy was shot..
sirreghead 1 year ago
@sirreghead
sure was
grettoz 1 year ago
are u all people forgetting that they wer 3 shell casings found on the 6th floor from a rifle? and that a rifle was also found???
danny11103 1 year ago
many so-called jet trails ARE in fact, chem-trails...but back to subject. jfk was the last REAL democratic president, we have had brutes like lbj, do-nothings like carter,degenerates like clinton, and now NWO poster boy, obama... sad indeed
graciemaemarie11 1 year ago
@graciemaemarie11 i agree with most of what you said. but how is clinton a degenerate? he presided over the longest period of economic growth in us history. he created almost 23 million jobs. and he tried to go after bin laden and afghanistan before the rest of the gov't even knew what a threat they were.
MentallyGuitardeded 1 year ago
why didnt 'he' just shoot as the limo came TOWARDS the tsbd?
graciemaemarie11 1 year ago 2
@graciemaemarie11 because then the triangulated fire myth would,nt have been born, they made it blatantly obvious that LHO did,nt do it to lead us to the triangulated fire nonesense.
joiganja 1 year ago
CONSIDER THESE : Lee H. Oswald had about 6 seconds for 3 shots, time zero 1st shot, time 5sec., 2nd shot , time 6 sec. 3rd shot. Dozen of witness heard this
timing one shot and the last 2 together which is impossible to operate. One of the shots were about 15 above the target to hit the curb that had to come from another rifle. Usually the last shot is the hardest on a target on movement, how come he got that perfect. Mr. Delgado served w/ LHO said he was a bad shot.
W.C. never consider.
Verdelufe 1 year ago
No even a sharp shooter would be easy to hit a target moving,
whoever shot from the TSBD just hit Gov.Connelly, if there
was another shot from TSBD it was a miss. JFK never was
shot from behind, first shot in the neck second in the head
from the FRONT !!!!
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@Verdelufe
jfk was shot from behind, & only from behind
grettoz 1 year ago
@grettoz Sure he was at the window ! He was shot from behind & only behind ! You talk like you read Vincent Bugliosi Book of 1600 pages. You have not seen enough clips at YT. Wise up !!!
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@Verdelufe
your the one who needs a reality check, i study facts not believe in fiction!!! open your eyes & ears
grettoz 1 year ago
@grettoz That is my kind of guy STUDY FACTS. Ok study these CLIPS but promise to get back to me with a reasonable explanation, please no BS. " Zapruder film Slow" jfk pushed against the seat violently after the sigh jfk grabbed his throat "Bullet Holes in the Limousine" an officer would pass a pencil thru a hole in the windshield. " One Rifle or Two " Gil Jesus shows the slings straps on the BOTTOM of the Carcano with Oswald in his backyard and the one found at TSBD the slings are on the SIDE.
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@grettoz Did you have enough time to study the 3 clips ?
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@Verdelufe
have had flu bud, will get back to you next week
grettoz 1 year ago
@grettoz I also got the flu but did not stop me, look this: SHOCKING !!! Besides the 3 shots another bullet was located at Connally's left thigh, making it 4 shots. Clip " JFK assassination AMAZING medical evidence news"
Study this fact too and let me know.
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@Verdelufe
sounds like your medical knowledge is as good as your historical knowledge?? if you truly had flu like me you wouldnt be able to switch a computer on, let alone study & comment on a film clip!! i will go what about 95% of right thinking experts say, & that is 3 shots fired from above & behind... any other conclusion is pure fantasy!!!!
grettoz 1 year ago
@grettoz Wait a minute what kind of answer is that " I will go what about 95% of right thinking experts say"
WC, Bugliosi & Posner thinking that is the only experts left. The 3 clips + 1 clip I sent you,you did not comment at all, you said you are a man who STUDY THE FACTS. You know what you are another phony, cynical, hypocrite who can not accept the real facts, for you would be like change your gender, you would be in a twilight zone. What kind of life is that MORON !!! JERK !!! BEAST !!!
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@Verdelufe
i have commented on them you sad prick.. you are off your fucking head, go & annoy someone on your low level of intelligence
grettoz 1 year ago
@grettoz You have not commented anything you Fucking LIAR, you first contact me with your posting, if you do not know anything about JFK stay QUIET, do not talk about my intelligence IDIOT you never debate anything with me to check my intelligence ASS HOLE !!!
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@grettoz SHUT UP !!!! IMBECIL !!!! people like you should stay away from YT, it is annoying nobody learn anything with guys like you. Go to a library and read some books then you can comeback as a MAN.
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@grettoz If you are having hard time to see well " Zapruder Film Slow " try "Zapruder Film Stabilized" but don't forget to get back to me with your studies and results, OK !
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@Verdelufe he was shoot in the back and in the neck(front),then from the grassy knoll front/right side
nicenonya3 1 year ago
@nicenonya3 In my opinion there's 5 shots 2 simultaneously: 1.Mac Wallace(LBJ buddy) 6th fl.hit Connally only, 2.Nicoletti from the 2nd fl. Daltex Bldg. hit the curb near overpass. 3. Unknown from the Knoll crossing Elm St. hit JFK in the throat. 4. Unknown (maybe someone wearing a Cowboy Hat) behind the retaining wall & fence, left a trace on the grass cross Elm street, see "Bullet Holes in the Limousine" & "Badge Man at Grassy Knoll". 5. Head, behind the fence" The Critical Minutes" at 0:53.
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@Verdelufe I agree,nice to see somebody with some facts and brains around YOUTUBE!!!
nicenonya3 1 year ago
The shot came from the overpass. Watch it again. The shot that took his head off, came from the front.
fluffydanny 1 year ago
@fluffydanny really retard so y would his head move forward in the video if it was shot from the front?
danny11103 1 year ago
@danny11103 His head went backward across the trunk of the car.
fluffydanny 1 year ago
10Garmonbozia01: "Bare in mind..." you wrote. Now that's a scary picture in the mind's eye. Perhaps you meant "Bear in mind?" Sheesh!
Spelling counts when you're posting for the world to read. Your credibility's at stake.
Waldocounty 1 year ago
@useful stuff....Oswald hesitated. It was a big thing to shoot the President even for a nut job.
Interesting video. The trees are still the same size oddly enough.
RadioTraitor 1 year ago
i hope Alex Jones' film Black Sunshine will reveal some new stuff and close the case for one and for all =)
HumanityWins 2 years ago
Oswald never shot anyone from the 6th floor. No one did.
That was the planted evidence room for the patsy. All show & tell for public consumption.
Think !! ANY assassin refuse a clear shot on Houston, coming at him, slowing in front of him for the turn onto Elm? So he can shoot a rifle bullet through the tree twigs?
Remember James Teague standing by the bridge and the curb strike bullet next to him? A heavy rifle bullet deflected to there? BS !
Dal-Tex bldg had a killer there. In-line shots.
usefulstuf 2 years ago
I could hit him with iron sights.
mrgreyshadow 2 years ago
@mrgreyshadow very easy shot less than 100 yards in a straight line 3.9 degree od declinatation so you dont have to constantly raise the rifle and just moving 11 mph
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
there was a bird who flew over the cucunest...
marinduren69 2 years ago
Dal Tex shot would make more sense considering it exited out of the right temple. A shot from here would have blown out his forehead.
6Ott7 2 years ago
It would only make sense if Kennedy' head was facing perfectly forward, which it wasn't.
smithnya 2 years ago
I duno about that dude. He looked pretty straight on the Z-film.
6Ott7 2 years ago
Ok, look at Zapruder's film from frames Z277-Z312 (Z313 is fatal shot) and tell me if Kennedy's head does indeed look straight. Look at his Right shoulder and how it is elevated. Look at how he starts to slide down the seat. Also, his back is not flat against the seat, but you can see his right shoulder turned towards Jackie. His head is also tilted down and the the left a bit.
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freedomhill68 2 years ago
There wasn't a better time to shoot from the TSBD than when it actually happened. The sight line is clear, the target isn't moving side-to-side, and there are no other people or windshields between Oswald and the President.
reachingsumwhere 2 years ago
Its hard to believe that the bullet came out of the right temple area of Kennedy's head looking from this view point.
6Ott7 2 years ago
Yup, agreed. As a matter of fact, by the third shot, it was easier because Oswald a that point just had to make small vertical adjustments, not as you said, more dramatic horizontal corrections as with the first shot.
smithnya 2 years ago
omg the damn guy died like how many years ago get the heck over it wether oswald did it or not the guy died im intrested about what really happened but god all the conspiricy talk
dannyscape123 2 years ago
That 'damn guy' your speaking of was our President, show some respect when addressing him, as he was the last that truly tried.
northmeister 2 years ago 2
I agree with you dear , dannyscap should show some respect Because on that day bullet not just killed a guy but killed our democracy . Most probably that bullet came in to the power afterward. We can wait forever to know about hands acting behind that bullet because I believe that only will re heal our democracy and for the big fish exposure of guilt is the punishment .
nileshbenz1 2 years ago
Well then don't mention Jesus to me.
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BeAGentlaman 2 years ago
I believe Oswald was involved in it, although I don't believe he was the only shooter, if he shot at all. Jean Hill, who witnessed the shooting, said that right after the 3rd shot, she saw a man in a dark suit and hat running away from the TSBD, towards the fence. It was only after Oswald was killed, that she realized the man she had seen running that day, was Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby played a much bigger part in this whole thing, than just killing Oswald.
LongLiveOx 2 years ago
Oswald didn´t shoot at all. 2 men in the Dal-Tech building and 1 behind the fence at the grassy noll.
The one on the grassy noll made the final and fatal shot.
mark2shooter 2 years ago
Ive been in law enforcement and security 23yrs plus been there at the sceen also no way no how did Oswald do it ,the government has so much to keep secret at any cost. Imagine what Kennedy knew and was about to expose..................Lets see if Mr Obama come forwared with anything
soeasypls 2 years ago
My friend, Kennedy was the last TRUE resident. He learned of the corruption within the government, especially the CIA, and wanted to spill the beans to be truthful to the people, and every president since LBJ knows what really happened, and although I like Obama, even he won't say anything. Nobody will. Either if Oswald did or didn't shoot JFK, Kennedy will never rest in peace.
Manbeast222 2 years ago 4
I dont believe Oswald shot him. I believe he was there to provide a way in and be a scapegoat. Interesting that the grassy null is in view. Both shooters are in view to be able to signal each other.
plankboi 2 years ago 3
we all know oswald did not kill jfk
canadamonster 2 years ago 16
No we don't. There are still idiots who think it was Oswald.
Manbeast222 2 years ago
There are still idiots who think Oswald was a patsy
aspie25 2 years ago
I think that would be the majority, sadly.
smithnya 2 years ago
There are still some idiots who believe the Warren Commission report.
lukesixtynineuk 2 years ago
@canadamonster We all know he did.
proferic 1 year ago
@canadamonster No WE don't.
LoneNutter1 11 months ago
@canadamonster
no you do, we know he did......
grettoz 7 months ago
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autoad 5 months ago
it would have made it obvious of his position
Hazzahop 2 years ago
Oswald didn't shoot anyone! No,sir!
Mobilecheese 3 years ago 3
OK if he was shot in the back of the head by Oswald would not the exit wound be slanted downward?
kerry1111111 3 years ago 3
That's a nice point, something I've always wondered myself. If you look at the Warren Ommission's drawings of JFK's head wounds, they're done in such a way as to create the illusion of a downward trajectory...but it's just not possible. The angle from TSBD to the car was 21 degrees.
This is something that nobody ever discusses.
ministerofleisure 3 years ago 2
I agree the Kennedy shots were clearly not from a high angle though the shot that hit John Connely must have been from quite a high angle. Must have been more than one gunamn.
heliotropezzz333 3 years ago
hehe you said Ommission... so true so true
plankboi 2 years ago
you are all sick fucks.
MatthewMcLaughlin 3 years ago 3
Hey! You fucked-in-the mouth asshole! Withdraw that remark immediately! I am not partial to being categorized as 'a sick fuck'.
Mobilecheese 3 years ago
i will not, and my opinion hasn't changed. I think it's messed up to sit around talking about different methods of killing a president. and the nerve to actually compliment the shooter on being a great marksman!?
MatthewMcLaughlin 3 years ago
What's sick about questioning the "official" story when it does not fit the facts. Sounds very healthy to me.
heliotropezzz333 3 years ago 3
wow a whole 88 yards of shooting? man that is some marksman!!! oh yes and with a scope!!! wow!!!! how did he do it? what a great marksman!
mikemoair 3 years ago
WTF? Why, of course, Im going to blast JFK from the 6th foor TSBD window, but only when the tree branches & leafs are blocking my view. LOLOL.
The ASSHOLES in-the-know are still laughing at you fools for 45 years, for believing Oswald did it and from the TSBD.
The REAR shots(among others) were from the DalTex bldg across the street...2nd floor window...no trees...best elevation...minimal gun movement...with at least 1 German 7.65 Mouser...not with Oswalds coke bottle. TSBD was a diversion.
grassyknollkiller 3 years ago 4
There is no evidence whatsoever of a shooter in the Dal Tex building firing a German 7.65 Mauser.
The majority of witnesses heard three shots from the direction of the TSBD and only bullets or fragments of bullets from a 6.5mm Mannlicher-Carcano were found which matched Oswald's weapon.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
Daltex shooter lines up perfectly with tague being hit by stay bullett... view in this film shows that the missed shot was fired through the trees how did it riccochet all the wy down to curb near underpass, where tague was standing....impossible second shooter daltex building...
migo53333 3 years ago
the reason to shoot thru the tree's is ... so when they look up to see where the shot came from he is hidden by the tree's think b4 u talk
prest707 3 years ago
Ummmmm..hidden by the trees???? what about all the other people in the motorcade, that were not behind the tree...
migo53333 3 years ago
Oswald's view was of the coke machine.
oneandatwo 3 years ago 14
Malcolm Wallace shot JFK.
Mfluder1970 3 years ago
It would have been better for him to shoot as JFK was coming towards him, would have a better chance, no way once that car had turned they would have been a decent enough shot to hit
mynes120 3 years ago 2
JFK's limo was flanked by four armed motorcycle cops. The limo was followed by a Cadillac with eight Secret Service men armed with handguns, shotguns and assault rifles. Not to mention armed policemen on the street.
If he opened fire from the front as the cavalcade was on Houston he would have come under a hail of gunfire.
Instead he opened fire from the rear as the limo headed downhill toward the mouth of the underpass.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
Also as the car approached on Houston because the image of his target would have dropped lower and lower and would have been harder to track in the scope. The target was easier on Elm. The street slopes downhill but at a gentle angle and in south westerly direction and combined with slow moving car, the target would have appeared visually stationary but diminishing in size. Once the car cleared the tree branch the view is unrestricted and at under 100 yards is an easy shot for an ex-Marine.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
that shot should have missed. one in a million hit.
cfx5000 3 years ago
if you look closely you see george bush behind the picket fence ..hes standing on the bumper of his chevy impala..he isnt doing anything...why couldnt they have shot him instead?
hot4urass 3 years ago
Bear in mind that the rifle found by the window was an Italian WW2 infantry rifle-notoriously inaccurate-very difficult to hit a barn door at that distance let alone a president.
jonny1957 3 years ago