Constantly injecting ZIONIST PROPAGANDA and bias into news programs,movies,television shows,even childrens cartoons and entertainment? There is No group is more ethnocentric and more organized for their perceived interests than the ZIONISTS. ZIONIST media power is so EXTENSIVE that one can scarcely EXAGGERATE it. When you know who runs the MEDIA, many things become pretty CLEAR.
Let me start at the beginning.jihad,Muslims,words seems to ring through your ears whenever you come across any article or news item portraying Islam as a terrorism ,hijacking, freedom hating.Everywhere you turn, you see more fingers being pointed at Muslims and Islam telling the world how it’s a religion of hate, war and bloodshed. How much longer are you going to be sheep and believe that Islam is the religion that is ‘out to get you’ when the real wolves are already in your own backyard?
And from the context of the verses 190-193 in the chapter of Al-Baqarah, we can see that Muslims are told to fight back those who fight them and drive them out of their homes which is FITNAH or persecution.
Therefore, we can say that Muslims are encouraged to fight oppressors who persecute people to remove their FITNAH and so that the religion of God,which grants freedom of religion would prevail.
If only defensive actions were authorized how do you explain all the violence 450 years before the crusades evan began? Near the end of his life, after warring against the Hawazin and Thaqif tribes, Mohammed threatened rulers of the Byzantine empire with this: "Embrace Islam and you will be safe." Soon after his death Muslims invaded the Byzantine Empire. Hoping for Mohammed's promise, "The first army amongst my followers who will invade Caesars City will be forgiven their sins"
"staum607" It is well known that Islam grants freedom of religion as mentioned in the following verses:
if your Lord had pleased,surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them;will you then force men till they become believers?. (Yunus 10:99)
And say:The truth is from your Lord, so let him who please believe, and let him who please disbelieve. (Al-Kahf 18:29)
lol! If they are not killed, Christians and Jews are granted dhimma (protected or guilty) status. They are not treated as equals. In order to spare their lives the Christians had to make many promises (Koran 9:29), and pay the jizya. If they break this promise, then there will be punishment. If you consider dhimma status to be freedom of religion, then either you have no concept of freedom, or you don't know your history
and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it,but if they do fight you,then slay them;such is the recompense of the unbelievers. But if they desist, then surely God is Forgiving,Merciful.And fight them until persecution (fitnah) is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.}(Al-Baqarah 2:190-193)
staum607 the meaning of "and all the religion becomes for God",if we read the verses of the Quran in which this statement was mentioned within the context,then we have to go back few verses before and consider the few verses after as well.We will find that it comes as followsFight in the way of God against those who fight against you,but begin not hostilities.Surely!God loves not aggressors.and drive them out from whence they drove you out,and persecution(FITNAH) is severer than slaughter.
staum607 Give me just a small break, if you would please, and try not to misquote The Koran.FITNAH means oppression in religion,or persecution as mentioned in the Quran.
They ask you concerning the sacred month about fighting in it. Say: Fighting in it is a grave matter, and hindering (men) from God's way and denying Him, and (hindering men from) the Sacred Mosque and turning its people out of it, are still graver with God, and persecution(FITNAH) is graver than slaughter (Al-Baqarah 2:217)
@QatariWarrior Let's examine the life of the man who thought up the Koran. Did Mohammed only fight in defense? No in fact when raiding a Quraysh caravan in Nakhla during the sacred month of Rajab, Mohammed changed his mind about fighting during this month. Since Quraysh opposed Mohammed, the raid was justified (Koran 2:214) Anytime someone didn't agree with Mohammed, He would either convert them, enslave them, or kill them. I assume he knows his book (the Koran) better then you do.
@staum607 you really dont know islamic history, dont u? the caravan to damascus raided at nakhlah contained all the items stolen from the muslims when they were forced to migrate to madinah. the muslims had to leave makkah coz they couldnt practise in peace. but most of makkah was gaurded. so the muslims left to madinah at night and could not carry much of their items. when they left, the quraish raided all their homes and took it to their caravans. the muslims just wanted thier stuff back.
@staum607 your answer proves how dumbstruck you are. and concerning violence, give me a situation during the prophets life which was violent. then i will give you its context. then you will understand that muslims are only defending themselves.
@theclearer1996 Sorry, as there are 109 verses promoting violence in the Koran, I cannot fit them all here. However here is a website with all of them listed thereligionofpeace. com/Quran/023-violence. htm
@staum607 i told you that all those verses are non violent if you look at the context. go visit my channel and watch both my videos. 1st video sucks. but 2nd video is better.( only 2 videos in channel: 2 episodes).
BTW, there are many violent verses in bible as well. 1311 violent verses actually.
here is the link:
BIBLE VIOLENT VERSES
google the above phrases and click the first result. it will be something like skeptics annotated bible
@theclearer1996 in your 1st verse, you spoke about the defensive side of 2:191-193, but you left out the offensive side "persecution (an ambiguous term that is very open to interpretation) is worse then slaughter". When you spoke about not killing innocents you left out the Koran's definition of innocents. I would not be considered innocent because I reject the claims of Mohammed, and I refuse to be a dhimmi or pay the jizya (Sura 9:29)
@staum607 it is not actually ' persecution'. it is 'fitnah'. fitnah means chaos, terrorism, destruction, evil, and other related words. fitnah has no straight translation. islam forbids fitnah. in other words, islam prohibits terrorism. fitnah( terrorism) is worse than killing. in 193, it says to wipe out fitnah by fighting off bad guys.
@staum607 you are innocent. the bad guys islam talks about are not like you. bad guys are people who hurt islam and muslims even though they know everything about islam. you are not hurting islam or muslims. you are just voicing you opinion which is allowed in islam. you have full rights to do that. muslims are not allowed to hurt other religions. you are not hurting islam. you are not doing it intentionaly because you dont know much about islam. you are not an enemy of god according to islam.
@theclearer1996 I actually have read much of the Koran, and have listened to hours of talks given by Muslims (moderate ones who have views like yours). However, after examining much of the material available along with history, my conclusion is very different from your and theirs (the moderate muslim teachers). I believe people like Osama bin laden are the ones who most accurately represent what Mohammed taught and lived. And while I do not consider myself an enemy of muslims, I am one of Allah
@staum607 wrong as ever. osama bin laden is not a muslim. he goes against the teaching of the prophet. the quran says ' whoever kills one person, it is as though he has killed entire humanity. but whoever saves one person, it is as though he has saved entire humanity.' we know that murder and killing of civillians and innocents is prohibited in islam. the prophet did not even allow people to kill ants! he was merciful. he never harmed an innocent. he only defended himself against enemis in war.
@staum607 all the greatest scholars of islam teach peace and non violence from the quran. all islamic scholars of the greatest emminence say that bin laden is doomed to hell. bin laden probably must not even have read the quran.
and what about the Norwegian who killed many people in norway? he was a chritian. so i can say that all christians are terrorists. but i will not because islam says not to judge a society by just a few number of misguided followers.
@staum607 please show me something violent the prophet did. you wont find anything. the prophet told us a story about a woman who went to hell because she killed a cat! this itself shows that killing is prohibited in islam.
Islam never believes in force or forcing anyone to become a Muslim. The Qur'an says: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things." (Al-Baqarah: 256)
According to the Saudi Sheikh Mohammed Saalih al-Munajid said )in considering Koran 2:256) to also remember Koran 9:29, 8:39 "And FIGHT them until thee is no more Fitnah (disbelief, polytheism, worship of others besides Allah), and the religion will be for Allah alone.
Also Koran 9:123 "O ye who believe! FIGHT the UNBELIEVERS who gird you about, and let them find the firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear him."
The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; other messengers had come and gone before him; his mother was a virtuous woman; both ate food. See how clear We make these signs for them .
People of the Book, do not go to excess in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a 'Trinity'—stop, that is better for you—God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust. (Qur'an 4:171)
The truth is that Jesus is God. The Bible (God's revealed Word) clearly teaches that God is one God in three persons (Father Son, and Holy Spirit) Anyone who does not believe this cannot have Jesus' blood applied to their sins, and so they remain unforgiven. How can you have your sins forgiven AND have God remain just (punishing all sins)?
Those who say, 'God is the Messiah, son of Mary,' have defied God. The Messiah himself said, 'Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' If anyone associates others with God, God will forbid him from the Garden, and Hell will be his home. No one will help such evildoers.
Exactly, we dont worship the same God. Jesus claimed to be God and proved it with miracles - the biggest one being His resurrection. Muslims claim Jesus is not God. The Bible (God's only true word) says Jesus is God. The Koran (Mohammed's supposed revelation) says Jesus is not. I think I will trust God and not an impostor.
According to the Islamic teachings,God exists without a place.God in Islam is not only majestic and sovereign,but also a personal God: according to the Qur'an,God is nearer to a person than his jugular vein.(Quran 50:16)God responds to those in need or distress whenever they call.Above all,God guides humanity to the right way,Islam teaches that the God of Abraham,the God worshipped by the members of other Abrahamic religions such as Christianity and Judaism,is the only God.
The Bible says God is just, the Koran implies that He is not. Jesus said He (not Mohammed) is the ONLY way to life. Jesus is God (not just a man). Jesus actually died on the cross, was taken down, placed in a tomb, and was resurrected on the third day. If you do not believe Jesus is God, then you and I do not worship the same God. So either I am wrong, you are wrong, or both of us are wrong. But we cant both be right.
From the Quran : And do not dispute with the People of the Scripture but in the most virtuous way, except for the aggressive people amongst them, and say; we believe in what has been revealed to us and revealed to you. Our God and your God is the same, and to Him we submit? (Al-`Ankabut 29:46)
Does this means Islam raises war against unbelievers.
You believe in the same God as me (a Christian)? I dont think so. My God is just, while Allah accepts bribes. My God is one God in three persons, Allah is not. My God became a human being who died so that we can be forgiven, Allah did not. Are you sure they are the same?
We have never had any proof that Prophet Muhammad, or his Companions fought for forcing people to accept Islam. This is a matter of fact. Had people entered Islam because of force, they would have gone back to their roots after the fall of the Islamic Caliphate.
Islam never believes in force or forcing anyone to become a Muslim. The Qur'an says: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things." (Al-Baqarah: 256)
You are correct the Koran does say this (2:256a I believe), however according to one hadith (Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4294) When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to [accept] Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. ... cont
If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allahs help and fight them
What CHRISTIANS Needs to Know is what does the HOLIEST books of the religion of JUDAISM really teach?
The HOLIEST books of the religion of JUDAISM are known as the TALMUD, a racist, bigoted series of books full of VILE HATRED toward JESUS,CHRISTIANITY and CHRISTIANS .The TALMUD calls for the eventual slaughter of ALL GENTILES ! It is undoubtedly the most RACIST, BIGOTED, HATEFUL series of books in the ENTIRE WORLD!
The more you avoid actually answering the accusations brought forth in the interview, (and instead falsely accuse another group that is not known for killing people out of hate.) the more clear it becomes that all the accusations in the interview are true
The Jewish Talmud blasphemes Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) and the Virgin Mary. Tractate Sanhedrin 106 a says that Jesus mother was a harlot: She who was a descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters. Also in Tractate Shabbath 104 b of the Talmud, it is stated : Miriam the hairdresser had sex with many men.
It seems like you have a deep hatred or Jews. Considering the video hardly mentions them at all, it is strange you keep bringing them up. Why is this? Even if the things you claimed about the Jews were true, it would not change any of the accusations made against Islam. You would seem more reasonable if you tried to explain how the specific claims in the interview are false, using the same context as Mr Spencer, and not bringing up a totally different verse.
Like Christians, MUSLIMS believe Mary was a chaste, virgin woman, who miraculously gave birth to Jesus. A person claiming to be a MUSLIM who, for instance, denies the Messenger ship of Jesus, is not considered a Muslim. Most of the Islamic information about Jesus is actually found in the Quran. Belief in all of the Prophets and Messengers of God is a fundamental article of faith in Islam.
Muslims respect and revere Jesus,and await his Second Coming. Muslims consider him one of the greatest of God's messengers to mankind. A Muslim never refers to him simply as 'Jesus', but always adds the phrase 'upon him be peace'. The Quran confirms his virgin birth (a chapter of the Quran is entitled 'Mary'), and Mary is considered the purest woman in all creation.
Jesus clearly referred to Himself as God. Was He lying, crazy, or telling the truth? Whatever you choose, you cannot simply call Him a prophet or a good man.
just curious, have you completed all five pillars or Islam yet?
The practice of honor killings has absolutely no sanction in the Qur'an, the Prophetic practice, or in the evolved systems of Islamic law, this is considered as an acts of sick individuals.
I am sure you realize that while you might believe this to be the case, there are many Islamic preachers who would say otherwise. Are they lying when they say the Koran supports these actions or have the instructions in the Koran changed?
Quran- 4:15 If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witness from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them. Or God ordain for them some (other) way.
You will find the nearest in love to MUSLIMS those who say "we are CHRISTIANS'. That is because amongst them are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world and they are not arrogant. And when they listen to the Quran revelation received by the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have recognized. ... So because of what they said, God rewarded them ...."
I command you to ten precepts: slay not a woman nor a child, nor an aged man, cut not down a tree that breath fruit, any lay not waste a cultivated land, and destroy not a sheep, nor a camel save for food, and lop not a date tree nor burn it, and conceal not plunder and be not faint of heart.
Instruction to Muslims army leaving for the Syrian front.
Now go, attack the AMALEKITES and DESTROY [a] everything that belongs to them. Do not SPARE THEM; put to DEATH MEN and WOMEN, CHILDREN and INFANTS, CATTLE and SHEEP, CAMELS and DONKEYS.
Well look at the context. Who is being commanded? The nation of Israel. Is this an ongoing command or a one time order? It is a one time order, as at all the other battles there are different commands. Finally, is this against everyone? No, it is against the amalekites.
How do you defend the 109 or so verses in the Koran that are open-ended commands for violence against all non-believers, including Jews and Christians?
•In the secret books, which are not permitted to fall easily into the hands of CHRISTIANS, they say(the Jews) that the soul of Esau came into CHRIST, that he was therefore EVIL and that he was Esau himself.
The Talmud - Hilkhoth Akum (X,1) Make no agreement,show no MERCY to CHRISTIANS.
I love how you demonstrate your ability to "cut and paste" comments. You are truly a skilled debater. It is amazing how the exact same random claims can be used to discredit all of the things that were brought up in this interview (all 6 parts even)
Constantly injecting ZIONIST PROPAGANDA and bias into news programs,movies,television shows,even childrens cartoons and entertainment? There is No group is more ethnocentric and more organized for their perceived interests than the ZIONISTS. ZIONIST media power is so EXTENSIVE that one can scarcely EXAGGERATE it. When you know who runs the MEDIA, many things become pretty CLEAR.
TheEvilZionist 1 year ago
Let me start at the beginning.jihad,Muslims,words seems to ring through your ears whenever you come across any article or news item portraying Islam as a terrorism ,hijacking, freedom hating.Everywhere you turn, you see more fingers being pointed at Muslims and Islam telling the world how it’s a religion of hate, war and bloodshed. How much longer are you going to be sheep and believe that Islam is the religion that is ‘out to get you’ when the real wolves are already in your own backyard?
TheEvilZionist 1 year ago
And from the context of the verses 190-193 in the chapter of Al-Baqarah, we can see that Muslims are told to fight back those who fight them and drive them out of their homes which is FITNAH or persecution.
Therefore, we can say that Muslims are encouraged to fight oppressors who persecute people to remove their FITNAH and so that the religion of God,which grants freedom of religion would prevail.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
If only defensive actions were authorized how do you explain all the violence 450 years before the crusades evan began? Near the end of his life, after warring against the Hawazin and Thaqif tribes, Mohammed threatened rulers of the Byzantine empire with this: "Embrace Islam and you will be safe." Soon after his death Muslims invaded the Byzantine Empire. Hoping for Mohammed's promise, "The first army amongst my followers who will invade Caesars City will be forgiven their sins"
staum607 1 year ago
"staum607" It is well known that Islam grants freedom of religion as mentioned in the following verses:
if your Lord had pleased,surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them;will you then force men till they become believers?. (Yunus 10:99)
And say:The truth is from your Lord, so let him who please believe, and let him who please disbelieve. (Al-Kahf 18:29)
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
lol! If they are not killed, Christians and Jews are granted dhimma (protected or guilty) status. They are not treated as equals. In order to spare their lives the Christians had to make many promises (Koran 9:29), and pay the jizya. If they break this promise, then there will be punishment. If you consider dhimma status to be freedom of religion, then either you have no concept of freedom, or you don't know your history
staum607 1 year ago
and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it,but if they do fight you,then slay them;such is the recompense of the unbelievers. But if they desist, then surely God is Forgiving,Merciful.And fight them until persecution (fitnah) is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.}(Al-Baqarah 2:190-193)
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
staum607 the meaning of "and all the religion becomes for God",if we read the verses of the Quran in which this statement was mentioned within the context,then we have to go back few verses before and consider the few verses after as well.We will find that it comes as followsFight in the way of God against those who fight against you,but begin not hostilities.Surely!God loves not aggressors.and drive them out from whence they drove you out,and persecution(FITNAH) is severer than slaughter.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
staum607 Give me just a small break, if you would please, and try not to misquote The Koran.FITNAH means oppression in religion,or persecution as mentioned in the Quran.
They ask you concerning the sacred month about fighting in it. Say: Fighting in it is a grave matter, and hindering (men) from God's way and denying Him, and (hindering men from) the Sacred Mosque and turning its people out of it, are still graver with God, and persecution(FITNAH) is graver than slaughter (Al-Baqarah 2:217)
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior Let's examine the life of the man who thought up the Koran. Did Mohammed only fight in defense? No in fact when raiding a Quraysh caravan in Nakhla during the sacred month of Rajab, Mohammed changed his mind about fighting during this month. Since Quraysh opposed Mohammed, the raid was justified (Koran 2:214) Anytime someone didn't agree with Mohammed, He would either convert them, enslave them, or kill them. I assume he knows his book (the Koran) better then you do.
staum607 1 year ago
@staum607 you really dont know islamic history, dont u? the caravan to damascus raided at nakhlah contained all the items stolen from the muslims when they were forced to migrate to madinah. the muslims had to leave makkah coz they couldnt practise in peace. but most of makkah was gaurded. so the muslims left to madinah at night and could not carry much of their items. when they left, the quraish raided all their homes and took it to their caravans. the muslims just wanted thier stuff back.
theclearer1996 5 months ago
@theclearer1996 ohhh poor muslims, forever the victims no matter how violent their own actions are
staum607 5 months ago
@staum607 your answer proves how dumbstruck you are. and concerning violence, give me a situation during the prophets life which was violent. then i will give you its context. then you will understand that muslims are only defending themselves.
theclearer1996 5 months ago
@theclearer1996 Sorry, as there are 109 verses promoting violence in the Koran, I cannot fit them all here. However here is a website with all of them listed thereligionofpeace. com/Quran/023-violence. htm
staum607 5 months ago
@staum607 i told you that all those verses are non violent if you look at the context. go visit my channel and watch both my videos. 1st video sucks. but 2nd video is better.( only 2 videos in channel: 2 episodes).
BTW, there are many violent verses in bible as well. 1311 violent verses actually.
here is the link:
BIBLE VIOLENT VERSES
google the above phrases and click the first result. it will be something like skeptics annotated bible
theclearer1996 5 months ago
@theclearer1996 in your 1st verse, you spoke about the defensive side of 2:191-193, but you left out the offensive side "persecution (an ambiguous term that is very open to interpretation) is worse then slaughter". When you spoke about not killing innocents you left out the Koran's definition of innocents. I would not be considered innocent because I reject the claims of Mohammed, and I refuse to be a dhimmi or pay the jizya (Sura 9:29)
staum607 5 months ago
@staum607 it is not actually ' persecution'. it is 'fitnah'. fitnah means chaos, terrorism, destruction, evil, and other related words. fitnah has no straight translation. islam forbids fitnah. in other words, islam prohibits terrorism. fitnah( terrorism) is worse than killing. in 193, it says to wipe out fitnah by fighting off bad guys.
second part of answer coming right up.
theclearer1996 5 months ago
@staum607 you are innocent. the bad guys islam talks about are not like you. bad guys are people who hurt islam and muslims even though they know everything about islam. you are not hurting islam or muslims. you are just voicing you opinion which is allowed in islam. you have full rights to do that. muslims are not allowed to hurt other religions. you are not hurting islam. you are not doing it intentionaly because you dont know much about islam. you are not an enemy of god according to islam.
theclearer1996 5 months ago
@theclearer1996 I actually have read much of the Koran, and have listened to hours of talks given by Muslims (moderate ones who have views like yours). However, after examining much of the material available along with history, my conclusion is very different from your and theirs (the moderate muslim teachers). I believe people like Osama bin laden are the ones who most accurately represent what Mohammed taught and lived. And while I do not consider myself an enemy of muslims, I am one of Allah
staum607 5 months ago
@staum607 wrong as ever. osama bin laden is not a muslim. he goes against the teaching of the prophet. the quran says ' whoever kills one person, it is as though he has killed entire humanity. but whoever saves one person, it is as though he has saved entire humanity.' we know that murder and killing of civillians and innocents is prohibited in islam. the prophet did not even allow people to kill ants! he was merciful. he never harmed an innocent. he only defended himself against enemis in war.
theclearer1996 5 months ago
@staum607 all the greatest scholars of islam teach peace and non violence from the quran. all islamic scholars of the greatest emminence say that bin laden is doomed to hell. bin laden probably must not even have read the quran.
and what about the Norwegian who killed many people in norway? he was a chritian. so i can say that all christians are terrorists. but i will not because islam says not to judge a society by just a few number of misguided followers.
theclearer1996 5 months ago
@staum607 please show me something violent the prophet did. you wont find anything. the prophet told us a story about a woman who went to hell because she killed a cat! this itself shows that killing is prohibited in islam.
theclearer1996 5 months ago
Islam never believes in force or forcing anyone to become a Muslim. The Qur'an says: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things." (Al-Baqarah: 256)
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
According to the Saudi Sheikh Mohammed Saalih al-Munajid said )in considering Koran 2:256) to also remember Koran 9:29, 8:39 "And FIGHT them until thee is no more Fitnah (disbelief, polytheism, worship of others besides Allah), and the religion will be for Allah alone.
Also Koran 9:123 "O ye who believe! FIGHT the UNBELIEVERS who gird you about, and let them find the firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear him."
staum607 1 year ago
(Qur'an 5:72)
The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; other messengers had come and gone before him; his mother was a virtuous woman; both ate food. See how clear We make these signs for them .
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
This is one of the reasons the Koran is false - it disagrees with what God said Namely, that Jesus is God.
staum607 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
So you believe Jesus was only a messenger.
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OK, this is what I believe.
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I believe the prophet Muhammad was a murdering, sadistic, kiddie-fiddling nutcase.
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You have your beliefs and I have mine.
cantleysugar 1 year ago
People of the Book, do not go to excess in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a 'Trinity'—stop, that is better for you—God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust. (Qur'an 4:171)
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
The truth is that Jesus is God. The Bible (God's revealed Word) clearly teaches that God is one God in three persons (Father Son, and Holy Spirit) Anyone who does not believe this cannot have Jesus' blood applied to their sins, and so they remain unforgiven. How can you have your sins forgiven AND have God remain just (punishing all sins)?
staum607 1 year ago
"Quran" Verses 5:7275
Those who say, 'God is the Messiah, son of Mary,' have defied God. The Messiah himself said, 'Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' If anyone associates others with God, God will forbid him from the Garden, and Hell will be his home. No one will help such evildoers.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
Exactly, we dont worship the same God. Jesus claimed to be God and proved it with miracles - the biggest one being His resurrection. Muslims claim Jesus is not God. The Bible (God's only true word) says Jesus is God. The Koran (Mohammed's supposed revelation) says Jesus is not. I think I will trust God and not an impostor.
staum607 1 year ago
staum607
By the way (Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4294) Is not the Quran, not a holly book , I have never read that book in my life .
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
It is the second most authentic hadith collection according to Sunni Muslims, the most authentic book of hadith after Sahih Al-Bukhari.
staum607 1 year ago
@ staum609
According to the Islamic teachings,God exists without a place.God in Islam is not only majestic and sovereign,but also a personal God: according to the Qur'an,God is nearer to a person than his jugular vein.(Quran 50:16)God responds to those in need or distress whenever they call.Above all,God guides humanity to the right way,Islam teaches that the God of Abraham,the God worshipped by the members of other Abrahamic religions such as Christianity and Judaism,is the only God.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
The Bible says God is just, the Koran implies that He is not. Jesus said He (not Mohammed) is the ONLY way to life. Jesus is God (not just a man). Jesus actually died on the cross, was taken down, placed in a tomb, and was resurrected on the third day. If you do not believe Jesus is God, then you and I do not worship the same God. So either I am wrong, you are wrong, or both of us are wrong. But we cant both be right.
staum607 1 year ago
From the Quran : And do not dispute with the People of the Scripture but in the most virtuous way, except for the aggressive people amongst them, and say; we believe in what has been revealed to us and revealed to you. Our God and your God is the same, and to Him we submit? (Al-`Ankabut 29:46)
Does this means Islam raises war against unbelievers.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
You believe in the same God as me (a Christian)? I dont think so. My God is just, while Allah accepts bribes. My God is one God in three persons, Allah is not. My God became a human being who died so that we can be forgiven, Allah did not. Are you sure they are the same?
staum607 1 year ago
We have never had any proof that Prophet Muhammad, or his Companions fought for forcing people to accept Islam. This is a matter of fact. Had people entered Islam because of force, they would have gone back to their roots after the fall of the Islamic Caliphate.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
read Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4294.
staum607 1 year ago
Islam never believes in force or forcing anyone to become a Muslim. The Qur'an says: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things." (Al-Baqarah: 256)
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
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You are correct the Koran does say this (2:256a I believe), however according to one hadith (Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4294) When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to [accept] Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. ... cont
staum607 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
...cont
If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allahs help and fight them
staum607 1 year ago
What CHRISTIANS Needs to Know is what does the HOLIEST books of the religion of JUDAISM really teach?
The HOLIEST books of the religion of JUDAISM are known as the TALMUD, a racist, bigoted series of books full of VILE HATRED toward JESUS,CHRISTIANITY and CHRISTIANS .The TALMUD calls for the eventual slaughter of ALL GENTILES ! It is undoubtedly the most RACIST, BIGOTED, HATEFUL series of books in the ENTIRE WORLD!
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
The more you avoid actually answering the accusations brought forth in the interview, (and instead falsely accuse another group that is not known for killing people out of hate.) the more clear it becomes that all the accusations in the interview are true
staum607 1 year ago
The Jewish Talmud blasphemes Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) and the Virgin Mary. Tractate Sanhedrin 106 a says that Jesus mother was a harlot: She who was a descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters. Also in Tractate Shabbath 104 b of the Talmud, it is stated : Miriam the hairdresser had sex with many men.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
It seems like you have a deep hatred or Jews. Considering the video hardly mentions them at all, it is strange you keep bringing them up. Why is this? Even if the things you claimed about the Jews were true, it would not change any of the accusations made against Islam. You would seem more reasonable if you tried to explain how the specific claims in the interview are false, using the same context as Mr Spencer, and not bringing up a totally different verse.
staum607 1 year ago
Like Christians, MUSLIMS believe Mary was a chaste, virgin woman, who miraculously gave birth to Jesus. A person claiming to be a MUSLIM who, for instance, denies the Messenger ship of Jesus, is not considered a Muslim. Most of the Islamic information about Jesus is actually found in the Quran. Belief in all of the Prophets and Messengers of God is a fundamental article of faith in Islam.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
Muslims respect and revere Jesus,and await his Second Coming. Muslims consider him one of the greatest of God's messengers to mankind. A Muslim never refers to him simply as 'Jesus', but always adds the phrase 'upon him be peace'. The Quran confirms his virgin birth (a chapter of the Quran is entitled 'Mary'), and Mary is considered the purest woman in all creation.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
Jesus clearly referred to Himself as God. Was He lying, crazy, or telling the truth? Whatever you choose, you cannot simply call Him a prophet or a good man.
just curious, have you completed all five pillars or Islam yet?
staum607 1 year ago
"HONOR KILLINGS"
The practice of honor killings has absolutely no sanction in the Qur'an, the Prophetic practice, or in the evolved systems of Islamic law, this is considered as an acts of sick individuals.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
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I am sure you realize that while you might believe this to be the case, there are many Islamic preachers who would say otherwise. Are they lying when they say the Koran supports these actions or have the instructions in the Koran changed?
Quran- 4:15 If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witness from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them. Or God ordain for them some (other) way.
staum607 1 year ago
Whats the Quran says about Christians
You will find the nearest in love to MUSLIMS those who say "we are CHRISTIANS'. That is because amongst them are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world and they are not arrogant. And when they listen to the Quran revelation received by the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have recognized. ... So because of what they said, God rewarded them ...."
[Quran, chapter 5, verses 82-86]
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
COMPANIONS OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH)
I command you to ten precepts: slay not a woman nor a child, nor an aged man, cut not down a tree that breath fruit, any lay not waste a cultivated land, and destroy not a sheep, nor a camel save for food, and lop not a date tree nor burn it, and conceal not plunder and be not faint of heart.
Instruction to Muslims army leaving for the Syrian front.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
now read this ( 1 samuel 15:3)
Now go, attack the AMALEKITES and DESTROY [a] everything that belongs to them. Do not SPARE THEM; put to DEATH MEN and WOMEN, CHILDREN and INFANTS, CATTLE and SHEEP, CAMELS and DONKEYS.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
Well look at the context. Who is being commanded? The nation of Israel. Is this an ongoing command or a one time order? It is a one time order, as at all the other battles there are different commands. Finally, is this against everyone? No, it is against the amalekites.
How do you defend the 109 or so verses in the Koran that are open-ended commands for violence against all non-believers, including Jews and Christians?
staum607 1 year ago
•In the secret books, which are not permitted to fall easily into the hands of CHRISTIANS, they say(the Jews) that the soul of Esau came into CHRIST, that he was therefore EVIL and that he was Esau himself.
The Talmud - Hilkhoth Akum (X,1) Make no agreement,show no MERCY to CHRISTIANS.
QatariWarrior 1 year ago
@QatariWarrior
I love how you demonstrate your ability to "cut and paste" comments. You are truly a skilled debater. It is amazing how the exact same random claims can be used to discredit all of the things that were brought up in this interview (all 6 parts even)
staum607 1 year ago