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JJ Johnson is such a bad influence on trombonists. He uses too many stock repetitive licks that are out of context and sound unnatural. I do hope future teachers do not take him as the trombone messiah he isn't.
@shoegazer666 JJ did have his own sound and own technique. That is what sets him apart. Regardless of if he had 4 "stock" licks that he played over and over or if he had an endless bag of tricks to draw from, he executed them well. He is a staple when students want to hear what a "Jazz" trombone sounds like.
sad that J.J. had to play with that dam abersol, fucker sounds like he's playing on a comb. the trombone master sound great as always, patient and deliberate
sad that J.J. had to play with that dam abersol mother fucker sounds like he's playing on a comb. the trombone master sound great as always, patient and deliberate
in my mind JJ is the greatest jazz trombonist of all time..I like his timing, rhythm, selections, improv. just everything about his sensibilities of music. His albums from the late 50's early sixties, for me, represent the best swinging trombone lead groups I know. And of course I have not heard every trombone player, who has? Greatest of all time can only be an opinion never fact.
in my mind JJ is the greatest jazz trombonist of all time..I like his timing, rhythm, selections, improv. just everything about his sensibilities of music. His albums from the late 50's early sixties, for me, represent some of the best swinging trombone lead groups I know. And of course I have not heard every trombone player, who has? Greatest of all time can only be an opinion never fact.
This is well before JJ retired from playing. But it is in the time I think when he degenerative back problems began. Maybe he was in pain, or maybe he just didnt want to be there. But honestly....there is no bad JJ Recordings. JJ was the Trombone Master...he even titled a CD that. It is a Yamaha Trombone. I am not sure on Model. But its Yamaha the folks who bring you "Fine Musical Instruments and Outboard Motors"
Love JJ, never seen him play before real pleasure spent a life time trying to do his Laura right Jimmy is like most teachers, JJ can do better he is bored and I wonder why.
This is not jj at his best - he looks like he's getting on a bit and i think he quit playing for a while at some point before this. A listen through his discography and the fact that he developed his own style with the greats in new york in the 40's places him firmly in the jazz masters category as far as i'm concerned. minor7b5, i'm a jazz trombonist by the way. And i really don't like kenny g. And i do know what a Bb, a locrian and a hole in the ground are. And a sense of humour.
OK Freeedy; actually I agree with you wholeheartedly. This is NOT JJ at his best. Sorry for the lack of a sense of humor; no excuse for it, but I can get a little too serious when it comes to my music. Enjoyed talking with you. As for the name; it's the best I could come up with....lol
5414869 - how on earth could you suggest i'm being sarcastic? I love Kenny's music so much i'm calling my baby daughter Kenny G. And my last name is Whizz. You see, all music that was ever played has been leading to this pinacle of greatness. Bach would be grateful to Kenny for refining his efforts. And before anyone replies seriously to this, can you please go and kill yourself first. Thanks.
if you're not being sarcastic, you're just plain stupid. The tragic thing about Kenny G. is that I think he could play "real" jazz if he wanted to.....hmmmmm; never considered suicide, but that's an awful thing to say to someone. I WAS 5414869, but now I'm minor7b5, but you wouldn't know a Locrian if you fell over one.
Oh guys, use your brains, please. Kenny G is played in elevators the world over because in the event of machinery failure there is nothing better to listen to than 10 straight hours of beautiful, inventive, meaningful, non-squeaky, uncommercial,big-toned, organic, heavy, soulful real jazz. I can just smell the hair gel.....ahhhh.....Genius. A jazz giant. You may disagree, or course.
Thank you for allowing us guys to disagree. Meaningful? Non-commercial? Kenny G. (and I get shivers up my spine just typing the name) is a bloody sell-out. He may have talent, but he has yet to show it. Like George Benson & others, this wanabe is in it for the money. Those of us who actually "play" jazz simply laugh when we hear him play. But you're right about one thing......elevator music!!!!!
No! No! No! Kenny G is not only the best sax player to have ever walked the earth, he also runs orphanages the world over for free, swam the atlantic naked, owns seventeen camels - all called Derek, is actually Jesus and can jump tall buildings landing perfectly balanced on his penis. Could any other jazz giant do all that? No! He's the best.
Anyone who calls Kenny G. a jazz "giant" is either very stpid about the whole jazz idiom, or they are being sarcastic! If it's the latter, your sarcasm is obnoxious to my intellectual interests. Don't you know that sarcasm is not an intellectuality, but merely a babbling of the diseased braon?
sweet jesus, kenny g better than jj? what the hell must you be on to believe that, kenny g has a nice tone, wow...he has no chops, non creative, elevator music, jj johnson is real jazz , kenny g's fans are people who dont know real jazz who have been misled by his flashy music.
Obviously who ever is saying that Kenny G is even a god dam jazz musician does not know shit about music because they guy is a fucking joke. Hes as god dam sellout bull shit soprano sax smooth jazz playing piece
He seems to be saying that if a musician is good, or world-renowned, you're not allowed to dub your own stuff over top (even as a lark) and sell it. I sense he thinks of Louis Armstrong as God (which he's not).
First off, Kenny G plays Cool Jazz, not bebop. So comparing them is quite difficult.
Second, the two play very different instruments. The most you can say is what Bird did for the Sax and Miles the trumpet is what JJ Johnson did for the trombone. Kenny G is not even in their league.
Making meritorious comparisons in this exahlted company is rather facile and irrelevant. J.J. is deep and real and soulful. He was there first. Any subsequent events cannot alter the gravity of this. It's different with Bird. Kenny G is far superior. Obviously.
The bird is better, why? well he gave a huge helping hand in the bebop revolution and Kenny G not so much learn and feel music before you put it down remember Bird Lives.
5414869 is right i said "gave a huge helping hand" is a huge understatement the bird is one of the gods of bebop. But Kenny G still nothing like the Bird. Bird Lives!!!
Freeeeeeeeedy. My gawd man; to mention the name of Kenny G. in the same context with Bird & JJ is sacriledge. You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about. You certainly don't know a Bb from a hole in the ground. Go listen to som rap!
I've seen videos of this group before. I unfortunately don't remember any of the rhythm section's names, except I'm pretty sure the bass player is Tyrone Wheeler.
And macree01, why would you make a comment like that? Can't you appreciate the player for who he is?
Dude, J.J. Carl and Frank are all great, but I'm sure mjames was just paying HOMAGE to the founder of the bop trombone and whom most trombonists owe a debt of gratitude. Its called lineage and Im sure Carl and Frank agree with smiles in heaven.
Ever listen to Bill Watrous? J.J. has always been a favorite of mine (especially with Kai), but to say he's the greatest trombonist in history is a little extreme, especially since you haven't heard them all!
hey James; don't get your water hot. Just listen to whomever & ENJOY. That's what jazz is all about: fun. That's all I was saying; there's no need to make value judgements.
@5414869 for sure there (were) are trombone players who can play faster, louder, higher, lower. But there is only one JJ. You hear 4 notes and you know it´s JJ. and that´s makes him unique. So maybe not the worlds best but one of the elite few.
My old time favorites JJ, Carl Fontana, Frank Rosolino.
@5414869 While you can definetely argue that there are guys like like watrous, fontana, rosolino etc. You need to keep in mind that they would be around if it wasnt for JJ. He brought the trombone into the be-bop age and for that I believe he definetely the most important jazz trombonist of all time
what song are they playing? what is it called?
farzona49999 2 months ago
This isn't 'Laura' it's 'Just Friends'
icecreamforcrowhurst 2 months ago
1 of the all time greatest jazz players
cyclingcmwdcw 8 months ago
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JJ Johnson is such a bad influence on trombonists. He uses too many stock repetitive licks that are out of context and sound unnatural. I do hope future teachers do not take him as the trombone messiah he isn't.
shoegazer666 1 year ago
@shoegazer666 JJ did have his own sound and own technique. That is what sets him apart. Regardless of if he had 4 "stock" licks that he played over and over or if he had an endless bag of tricks to draw from, he executed them well. He is a staple when students want to hear what a "Jazz" trombone sounds like.
donpierce101 11 months ago
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dude, ur trippin!!!!!
chonches 11 months ago
@shoegazer666 troll
killertromboner 11 months ago
@shoegazer666 You're a bad comic. Or a moron. Or deaf.
freeeeeeedy 9 months ago
just when it was getting good , it cuts off at 8:09 -_-
mtm055055 1 year ago
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sad that J.J. had to play with that dam abersol, fucker sounds like he's playing on a comb. the trombone master sound great as always, patient and deliberate
planiglukh 1 year ago
sad that J.J. had to play with that dam abersol mother fucker sounds like he's playing on a comb. the trombone master sound great as always, patient and deliberate
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in my mind JJ is the greatest jazz trombonist of all time..I like his timing, rhythm, selections, improv. just everything about his sensibilities of music. His albums from the late 50's early sixties, for me, represent the best swinging trombone lead groups I know. And of course I have not heard every trombone player, who has? Greatest of all time can only be an opinion never fact.
jody8526937 1 year ago
in my mind JJ is the greatest jazz trombonist of all time..I like his timing, rhythm, selections, improv. just everything about his sensibilities of music. His albums from the late 50's early sixties, for me, represent some of the best swinging trombone lead groups I know. And of course I have not heard every trombone player, who has? Greatest of all time can only be an opinion never fact.
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ravenwolf789 1 year ago
greatest tbn for jazz ever
FinnbarTrombone 1 year ago
the bassist's hat is pretty funny
diegoaalzate 2 years ago
JJ Played a 3B most of his career...
Although around the time this was filmed he switched to a Yamaha 691...
I can't tell what horn it is from the vid.
Trombone1991 2 years ago
Its the tune "Just Friends"
LeonardandPaul 2 years ago
JJ always sounded good
jazztrbn77 2 years ago
Yamaha YSL-691
DavePlaysTrombone 2 years ago
WHO PUT MINUS ONE ON HIS COMMENT???
thepeople1325 3 years ago
I'm speechless
bpheard 3 years ago
Our band director played this in class one day. The entire DVD with Just Friends (apparently aebersold's favorite song LOL) and Autumn Leaves.
MagicRain505 3 years ago
i had this movie
TboneWertman 3 years ago
that's funny... I have this video! JJ is definitely the man
barkinmarc 3 years ago
Wow, I didn't know that Just Friends was with Jamey Abersold
cw1194 3 years ago
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jj should die ina fire
blkbeltmage 3 years ago
This is well before JJ retired from playing. But it is in the time I think when he degenerative back problems began. Maybe he was in pain, or maybe he just didnt want to be there. But honestly....there is no bad JJ Recordings. JJ was the Trombone Master...he even titled a CD that. It is a Yamaha Trombone. I am not sure on Model. But its Yamaha the folks who bring you "Fine Musical Instruments and Outboard Motors"
mgdrummond 4 years ago
J.J. Johnson had several sabbaticals from active performing actually.
purplepiratebones 4 years ago
i wonder what horn is j j johnson using in this concert ...
andres9685 4 years ago
It most definitely is Yamaha, just look at the tuning slide brace. I think the one he used was a YSL-691.
maestrohound 4 years ago
Love JJ, never seen him play before real pleasure spent a life time trying to do his Laura right Jimmy is like most teachers, JJ can do better he is bored and I wonder why.
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rozelehotbroadzd 4 years ago
It seems to be "Just friens", composed by jj
schnieef 4 years ago
This is not jj at his best - he looks like he's getting on a bit and i think he quit playing for a while at some point before this. A listen through his discography and the fact that he developed his own style with the greats in new york in the 40's places him firmly in the jazz masters category as far as i'm concerned. minor7b5, i'm a jazz trombonist by the way. And i really don't like kenny g. And i do know what a Bb, a locrian and a hole in the ground are. And a sense of humour.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
OK Freeedy; actually I agree with you wholeheartedly. This is NOT JJ at his best. Sorry for the lack of a sense of humor; no excuse for it, but I can get a little too serious when it comes to my music. Enjoyed talking with you. As for the name; it's the best I could come up with....lol
minor7b5 4 years ago
you tell him fred... minor7b5 sometimes just needs to shut his trap haha
steeezmasta 4 years ago
5414869 - how on earth could you suggest i'm being sarcastic? I love Kenny's music so much i'm calling my baby daughter Kenny G. And my last name is Whizz. You see, all music that was ever played has been leading to this pinacle of greatness. Bach would be grateful to Kenny for refining his efforts. And before anyone replies seriously to this, can you please go and kill yourself first. Thanks.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
Hahaha! are you kidding?
jinuse0010 4 years ago
if you're not being sarcastic, you're just plain stupid. The tragic thing about Kenny G. is that I think he could play "real" jazz if he wanted to.....hmmmmm; never considered suicide, but that's an awful thing to say to someone. I WAS 5414869, but now I'm minor7b5, but you wouldn't know a Locrian if you fell over one.
minor7b5 4 years ago
Nice new name. Suits your obvious lack of humour.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
don't recognize the chord spelling? lol
minor7b5 4 years ago
There's nothinng wrongg with my speelllingg.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
JJ 4ever!!!!
txinpum 4 years ago
Oh guys, use your brains, please. Kenny G is played in elevators the world over because in the event of machinery failure there is nothing better to listen to than 10 straight hours of beautiful, inventive, meaningful, non-squeaky, uncommercial,big-toned, organic, heavy, soulful real jazz. I can just smell the hair gel.....ahhhh.....Genius. A jazz giant. You may disagree, or course.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
Thank you for allowing us guys to disagree. Meaningful? Non-commercial? Kenny G. (and I get shivers up my spine just typing the name) is a bloody sell-out. He may have talent, but he has yet to show it. Like George Benson & others, this wanabe is in it for the money. Those of us who actually "play" jazz simply laugh when we hear him play. But you're right about one thing......elevator music!!!!!
5414869 4 years ago
No! No! No! Kenny G is not only the best sax player to have ever walked the earth, he also runs orphanages the world over for free, swam the atlantic naked, owns seventeen camels - all called Derek, is actually Jesus and can jump tall buildings landing perfectly balanced on his penis. Could any other jazz giant do all that? No! He's the best.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
Anyone who calls Kenny G. a jazz "giant" is either very stpid about the whole jazz idiom, or they are being sarcastic! If it's the latter, your sarcasm is obnoxious to my intellectual interests. Don't you know that sarcasm is not an intellectuality, but merely a babbling of the diseased braon?
5414869 4 years ago
sweet jesus, kenny g better than jj? what the hell must you be on to believe that, kenny g has a nice tone, wow...he has no chops, non creative, elevator music, jj johnson is real jazz , kenny g's fans are people who dont know real jazz who have been misled by his flashy music.
waffleboy83 4 years ago
The sad thing is that Kenny COULD be real jazz. There are some great trombonists out there, but they're standing on JJ (and Kai's ) shoulders.
haredog62 4 years ago
i transcribed jj doing just friends (this tune) and he uses so many of the same licks... he was a god...
daviska14 4 years ago
Obviously who ever is saying that Kenny G is even a god dam jazz musician does not know shit about music because they guy is a fucking joke. Hes as god dam sellout bull shit soprano sax smooth jazz playing piece
KDFrieds 4 years ago
Check out Pat Metheny's coments on K.G. It's online somewhere. You'll howl, but he's corect.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
Pat Methany's comments are at jazzoasis [dot com]
He seems to be saying that if a musician is good, or world-renowned, you're not allowed to dub your own stuff over top (even as a lark) and sell it. I sense he thinks of Louis Armstrong as God (which he's not).
jazzflutist 4 years ago
Kenny G. (ugh) is NOT a jazz musician; he is a jazz parasite.
5414869 4 years ago
agreed! But can the expletives. They're not necessary.
minor7b5 4 years ago
I hear that there's a sense of humour sale on at ebay.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
Kenny G better than J J Johnson?
First off, Kenny G plays Cool Jazz, not bebop. So comparing them is quite difficult.
Second, the two play very different instruments. The most you can say is what Bird did for the Sax and Miles the trumpet is what JJ Johnson did for the trombone. Kenny G is not even in their league.
ScottTrogam 4 years ago
Making meritorious comparisons in this exahlted company is rather facile and irrelevant. J.J. is deep and real and soulful. He was there first. Any subsequent events cannot alter the gravity of this. It's different with Bird. Kenny G is far superior. Obviously.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
The bird is better, why? well he gave a huge helping hand in the bebop revolution and Kenny G not so much learn and feel music before you put it down remember Bird Lives.
birdlives239 4 years ago
Bird gave a "helping hand" in the bebop movement? Talk about the understatement ofthe year!
5414869 4 years ago
5414869 is right i said "gave a huge helping hand" is a huge understatement the bird is one of the gods of bebop. But Kenny G still nothing like the Bird. Bird Lives!!!
birdlives239 4 years ago
I WAS 5414869; now I'm minor7b5. Kenny G. is terrible.....Bird Lives!!!!! The two shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.
minor7b5 4 years ago
To compare Kenny G. & Bird is ludicrous. In any case, music in general is not a competition, especially where jazz is concerned.
Bird's contribution to jazz will live on forever; Kenny G. is a sell-out. He doesn't represent jazz in any sense; just another elevator musician
5414869 4 years ago
Freeeeeeeeedy. My gawd man; to mention the name of Kenny G. in the same context with Bird & JJ is sacriledge. You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about. You certainly don't know a Bb from a hole in the ground. Go listen to som rap!
5414869 4 years ago
yeah i aprreciate jj, he is one of the best ever, i just dont really prefer his style over others. I still really like jj.
macree01 4 years ago
who is the piano player??
manthisisit 4 years ago
I've seen videos of this group before. I unfortunately don't remember any of the rhythm section's names, except I'm pretty sure the bass player is Tyrone Wheeler.
And macree01, why would you make a comment like that? Can't you appreciate the player for who he is?
dekarthegreat 4 years ago
Excuse me mjames4208, Carl Fontana and Frank Rosolino are just as good, if not better.
macree01 5 years ago
They're all amazing, but each has there strengths and weaknesses.
kevinaustin95 5 years ago
Dude, J.J. Carl and Frank are all great, but I'm sure mjames was just paying HOMAGE to the founder of the bop trombone and whom most trombonists owe a debt of gratitude. Its called lineage and Im sure Carl and Frank agree with smiles in heaven.
purplepiratebones 4 years ago
Very good point, well put.
freeeeeeedy 4 years ago
music is not a competition
5414869 4 years ago
Just Friends! Great song
XxSaxCannon921xX 5 years ago
what's the rest of the line up? And what year? Great stuff- JJ is a legend
raphaelclarkson 5 years ago
It's Phil DeGreg on piano. Not sure about the other guys.
cssbone 4 years ago
Jamey Aebersold is on tenor sax; also one of the greatest jazz educators alive today. Met him at a jazz workshop in Louisville, Ky
5414869 4 years ago
the greatest trombonist in our HISTORY
mjames4208 5 years ago
Ever listen to Bill Watrous? J.J. has always been a favorite of mine (especially with Kai), but to say he's the greatest trombonist in history is a little extreme, especially since you haven't heard them all!
5414869 4 years ago
how do you know who i've heard? don't ask a question and then answer it. it is my opinion the JJ is the GREATEST!
mjames4208 4 years ago
hey James; don't get your water hot. Just listen to whomever & ENJOY. That's what jazz is all about: fun. That's all I was saying; there's no need to make value judgements.
5414869 4 years ago
@5414869 for sure there (were) are trombone players who can play faster, louder, higher, lower. But there is only one JJ. You hear 4 notes and you know it´s JJ. and that´s makes him unique. So maybe not the worlds best but one of the elite few.
My old time favorites JJ, Carl Fontana, Frank Rosolino.
brassheavy 1 year ago
@5414869 While you can definetely argue that there are guys like like watrous, fontana, rosolino etc. You need to keep in mind that they would be around if it wasnt for JJ. He brought the trombone into the be-bop age and for that I believe he definetely the most important jazz trombonist of all time
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