Its not about that "nowadays every car has 250hp stock" or "my turbo b16 has 350hp" its about that this is a 1.6l NATURALY ASPIRED motor with that power, u wont find it anywhere CLOSE on earth in STOCK form.
@ttcro22 forced induction its easier to make power because u have 14.7lbs (correct me if im wrong) drawing in air as of if you have boost you habe 14.7+boost psi. its all about compression ratio and air flow thats why he said the head work was crazy but dont get me wrong i would like to see how much he spent making that 250hp thats what people look at now if he did it himself and spent 100 bucks on everything that is a HELL of a build but just saying to make 250whp n/a is a challenge
@wtl1964 To the wheels jackass... 240whp is around 280-300hp to the crank. You loose more power to the wheels in a RWD with a front engine. Most stock cars with a 4cyl. naturally aspirated do not even come close to that. Sure you big heavy cars will have more hp cause they need it to move.
@Ryoukun16 but it works, it's a 8 injector set up, the 4 injectors you see next to the trumpets are mapped to inject petrol at later RPM to reduce flat spots and just generally increase torque/power output. also it provides a better mix of air/fuel ratio ;)
@owenhump I used to kind of think this too, but if that car has a really lightweight flywheel, then it'll lose revs really fast. When you up shift, you lose RPMS, so maybe this was to keep the car (that may very well drop revs super fast in between gears) in a good spot in the power band as it up shifts. I can't explain the insane dips in the torque curve though.
why waste money on this? i got 351whp with a pieced together turbo kit that ran me 1600 for everything including my dyno tune, theres a video in my favorites of me racing a 312who eg hatch with nitrous.
@will757 my guess is some ppls like the feeling they get from all motor then the turbo....all motor all the way...and i also like turbo but lil less then all motor. lol
@will757 Depends on your goals man. An NA engine has way better throttle response, and has its emphasis under a cornering situation on the entrance. Turbo's emphasis is on the exit. Depends on what you want as a driver. Yeah, if you don't like the power and torque numbers, then definitely use as much forced induction as you see fit. If feel and character are what you're looking for, build a beasly NA engine. I don't drag race much, so I don't care to much for boost, personally.
@BlueAllJ No, They are called stand off injectors. They work on itb's because the fuel is bounced off the throttle plate and this allows it to atomize the F/A mixture more efficiently. I think its a crap theory, but it looks cool as hell.
@0187Koffi Well that's them lol. From personal experience it's not a good setup. My friend's Integra GSR had the same setup and same injector cover. He didn't do his scheduled injector cleaning so the injector on cyl 3 got partially clogged and was spraying gas all over all over the crankcase. Some exposed wiring from his shit security system created a spark and the whole front half of the car blew. Similar story when in high school we did a custom ITB setup on a Ford Tarus.
@HeyMan096 ya well i think you could say its not a viable street setup more so than its a crap theory because the theory of it is very good, the practicality of it on a street car would be poor. I would've thought with a proper airbox and filter it would have been alright for a weekend streeter. Always surprised to see trick intake setups like this without it or filters.
Why does America use horrible 91 octane fuel? My lawnmower has a minimum requirement of 95 octane and my brothers TKM Kart uses 98 octane, which is at 99% of filling stations in the UK/Europe xD
@liamcollister because our government doesnt mind letting companies mix "ethanol" and who knows what other garbage into our fuel. as long as they get some taxes out of it . not to mention its less economical we end up having to use more fuel, it collects water condensation in our fuel tanks turns into gummy shit. but there gettin paid so who cares right WHOHOO USA!!
@liamcollister Octane ratings in NA is rated differently than UK/Europe. All the standard grades you have we also have aswell but as a different rating.
@liamcollister, some states sell 93 octane fuel. it depends on where you are, but it never goes any higher. the higher the octane, the more expensive the petrol...
forget crank walk, now we got timing belt walk at redline! Put the plastics back on before someone gets hurt, ya I know "it looks cool" but reallllly?
u have 206 hp at 9400 rpm idk where u got the 240 from lol and someone else mentioned the 11k redline, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless your GT3 or quicker just sayin its a honda not a ferrari but still think its sick.
Maybe you guys can explain this for me; why is the torque curve on this engine so strange? It has pretty serious dips at around 4200rpm, 6200rpm, and 7800 rpm; I feel AWESOME it spins so high, but peak torque was made at about 88-8900 rpm, and peak hp was made at around 9500 rpm. Why does it need to rev to 11k? EXPENSIVE set up too with ITB's and stand off injectors. I'm not dissing the setup; I want to build a high rev "poor man's ITR" myself with a B18C1 and an B16 head and "R" pistons.
The car doesn't have variable valve timing, so cam design can only be 3 things, low end, mid range, or high end power. It revs to 11,000 rpms because it can, and it allows you to run a shorter gear ratio and make use of it.
@w00t692 I understand about the cam not being able to be optimized for the entire powerband. There are massive DIPS in the power band near the RPM's I listed in my last comment. I think they spun it that high simply because they could. There isn't to much of a point to rev that far past your peak horsepower number.
@Twitchc0rp pretty those arent injectors as you can see farther down the runners it has fuel injectors. it is most likely water meth, which is still a very cool way to do it.
What.. "only "208whp @ 11000rpm... up here we did a B16 engine this autumn and it pushed 223whp @ 8963rpm .. using only "shelf-parts".. Mostly SKUNK parts...!
@TETVTEC this one is on 91 and is a stock bottom end ,, its not like anyones re-inventing the wheel here ,, these motors have been around since 96 in america , and im pretty sure you guys arent the first to make 223 with a b16
@TETVTEC this one is on 91 and is a stock bottom end ,, its not like anyones re-inventing the wheel here ,, these motors have been around since 93 in america , and im pretty sure you guys arent the first to make 223 with a b16
208 Wheel horse power translates to about 240+ hp at the crank. and the 160 hp stock rating is also measured at the crank. so this engine makes about 48 more HP than a stock B16.
@d00mofhumanity the hp drop is nothing compared to the fact that in a drag race you can rev almost 1.5 times than most of the others, + it still pushes over 190 hp at the limiter. So yea, 11k all the way imo.
@michaelovitch If you need to rev anywhere past 9k to keep your car in its peak power range then id consider changing gearing. Reving to 11k is useless as you can see in the dyno chart the power falls off around 9.2k or so. I could careless, this engine isn't in my car and i will NEVER even consider dealing with sdpauto in anyway. Thanks for showing me what NOT to do!
i hate dyno packs. try using a dyno jet. then you will know what your driving on everyday. but nice build. using a dyno jet you would probably only make about 189whp to 192whp.
Here is a hint to the power, those are equal lrngrh headers which can produce up to 30ho alone, aswell it has ITB's to breathe, and I did not hear a vtec meaning it probably has killer cams, and all of the other toda head parts, 240hp sounds about right
@meronmotors You dont lose that much HP from the crank to the wheels on a fwd car. You lose more like 35-40 if that. Rear wheel drive is different because it has to go through the trqanny, then the driveshaft, then the differential. So it takes more to get everything spinning
Even though I have dreams of big power out of a b16, i know that internal mods will shorten the life, I just plan on getting the b16b, getting a aluminum rad, some cams gears, PJDM intake, and a fuel rail, the engine is amazing the way it comes, more than enough power for my crx
I don't like stand-offs. I think it's better to place the injectors closer to the valves. Sure, when you do this i guess the fuel gets properly mixed around with the air considering the length it has to go and the time it has to mix together with the air. But still i don't really like them. Probably because you can see the fuel squirting about. Feels like it can somewhere else than into the engine.
DonHumbostoni, its not the ITB's that give much increase in power maybe 20hp on a stock b16, they just help increase the flow of air, its camshafts that determine your real increase in power, to get easy power on the b16, fully build the head with TODA parts: killer cams, retainers, valves, springs, etc, then get an equal length 4-1 header and ITB's, its probably wha this one has and im putting this stuff on a b16b
does anyone know how much bhp increase you get by adding ITB's? my b16a2 is running roughly at 175bhp im wondering what gain in bhp i can expect by adding ITB's??
That's cool it can handle 11,000 RPM, but you are better off shifting at about 9,000 RPM. The torque drops and hp drops early, so there is no point to reving it that high.
@tonymadhouse my chevelle had an brand new tranny(Richmond 4 speed T10) new fully adjustable suspension(Hotchkis TVS)rated to turn better than any euro sports car, and a new rear axle housing (Currie GMA6872X) with new axles(Moser A33CST) and a new ring and pinions(Richmond 49-0011-1) and a new torque converter(TCI Pro-X 251409)
so say its not capable of turning or going fast? im not redneck by the way I live in so cal dipshit
ok sooo question. im so confused. im looking at the fuel rail its still sitting in the back of the motor instead of on top of the ITB'S now im looking at the fuel injectors ITS IT ME OR AM I SEEING THE FUEL BEING INJECTED INTO THE ITB's
NOW another thing im looking on top of the ITB's between the head and the throttle arm. WY THE HELL DO I SEE THE SPARK PLUGS.
i mean seriously someone please explain this to me .ha
Maybe you guys can explain this for me; why is the torque curve on this engine so strange? It has pretty serious dips at around 4200rpm, 6200rpm, and 7800 rpm; I feel AWESOME it spins so high, but peak torque was made at about 88-8900 rpm, and peak hp was made at around 9500 rpm. Why does it need to rev to 11k? EXPENSIVE set up too with ITB's and stand off injectors. I'm not dissing the setup; I want to build a high rev "poor man's ITR" myself with a B18C1 and an B16 head and "R" pistons.
@MPRdrummer I'm not gonna talk trash about American cars, because I respect them too. I do get bugged about "this is better than that" arguments though. To each his own. Anyways, when I made the statement "you guys" I was hoping the posters of the video would respond. Sure, I'll get a big boost in torque with a good ol' 454, but I'm trying to figure out why the torque curve for this B-series engine looks so strange.
@MPRdrummer with all do respect i smoked me a 04 mustang gt with some loud fukin mufflers like by 8 car lenghts!! i let off at 133mph why keep going he wasn't gonna catch me,i just kept pulling on um,kool guy though...my gsr crx is a stock motor with bolt ons,internals remain stock...i hang with ss camaros but still i don't get respect from the v8 guy's,i'm no v8 hater,never will be,my dream car is and will always be a 69 ss camaro with a 350 twin turbo set up.....i love v8's !!!!!
@KILLERBJDMEF8 So many ppl under rate the lil 4 bangers yet ive seen so many v8s get destroyed by them hahaha but its all good let em hate gives the 4 bangers a reason to be around :P
awesome b16, im trying to find out ways to get 220whp out of one, what do you need to build?, ITB's, 12:1 pistons, valve springs, polished head, stage 2 cams, and intake manifold is all I can think of, and by the way for everyone else, I doubt your chevy's can beat this on a circuit track, your powerful v8's are meant for straight lines only
lol you dont inject water into your engine ,if it goes into the engine itll get compressed (which it cant do) causing it to break and bend valves and possibly crack or blow a hole in your engine , water is sprayed on the intercoolers of engines with turbos or supercharges to cool the air going into the engine down , n/a cars like this one have radiators cooling the eningine via bock cavity. , those were individual direct port throttle bodies, those injectors were putting petrol into the engine.
exactly, so to the guys not understanding why you CAN inject water into your combustion chambers please read the above, there are also lots of books on the subject.
slow shit go turbo.
Tupples1 6 days ago
Might go to 11,000 but not making any more hp...
4uh8ers 3 weeks ago
@konoholio if you look at the dyno sheet powerband drops after 9900. so no not making power.
TiitTea 1 month ago
doesn't make power past 9900 rpm so revving that high is useless.
TiitTea 1 month ago
@TiitTea so 180hp at 1000revs later is not making power ?
konholio2 1 month ago
Its not about that "nowadays every car has 250hp stock" or "my turbo b16 has 350hp" its about that this is a 1.6l NATURALY ASPIRED motor with that power, u wont find it anywhere CLOSE on earth in STOCK form.
Jesus thats 160hp per liter.
ttcro22 2 months ago
@ttcro22 forced induction its easier to make power because u have 14.7lbs (correct me if im wrong) drawing in air as of if you have boost you habe 14.7+boost psi. its all about compression ratio and air flow thats why he said the head work was crazy but dont get me wrong i would like to see how much he spent making that 250hp thats what people look at now if he did it himself and spent 100 bucks on everything that is a HELL of a build but just saying to make 250whp n/a is a challenge
guccamain 1 month ago
man, that lawmowers got some power
aybeeceeboi 3 months ago
oo 260 hp most stock cars push that nowadays
wtl1964 3 months ago
@wtl1964 To the wheels jackass... 240whp is around 280-300hp to the crank. You loose more power to the wheels in a RWD with a front engine. Most stock cars with a 4cyl. naturally aspirated do not even come close to that. Sure you big heavy cars will have more hp cause they need it to move.
dirtbikemike69 3 months ago
@dirtbikemike69 ya stock 4 bangers nowaday do that
wtl1964 3 months ago
@wtl1964 A high performance stock 4cyl has 200-220hp to the crank now a days... which is like 160 to 170 to the wheels.
dirtbikemike69 3 months ago
Is it just me or did the cambelt move around a lot at 0:29?
NS94Autograss 3 months ago
That injector setup doesn't look pleasing...
Ryoukun16 3 months ago
@Ryoukun16 but it works, it's a 8 injector set up, the 4 injectors you see next to the trumpets are mapped to inject petrol at later RPM to reduce flat spots and just generally increase torque/power output. also it provides a better mix of air/fuel ratio ;)
malumventurum 3 months ago
You reved it to 11k and wernt making power past 9500...... you sir fail
owenhump 3 months ago
@owenhump I used to kind of think this too, but if that car has a really lightweight flywheel, then it'll lose revs really fast. When you up shift, you lose RPMS, so maybe this was to keep the car (that may very well drop revs super fast in between gears) in a good spot in the power band as it up shifts. I can't explain the insane dips in the torque curve though.
nonstophero0079 2 months ago
not hating or anything but from the looks it doesn't make power past 9600 ish.
Impressive that it can rev to 11k tho.
TiitTea 3 months ago
J'ai hâte de voir ma EL Type-R la ;-)
arcostiann 4 months ago
as far from direct injection as you can get xD
fitimio001 4 months ago
0.26-0.30 That cambelt doesnt like the high revs!
Magicman54321 4 months ago
all that work building up an engine to go 11,000rpm and for what 118 torque? really?..............really?!?!!
sushiJohni 4 months ago
@sushiJohni where did it say 118 ft/lbs torque?
flyingdegu92 3 months ago
@flyingdegu92 that number was taken off the guys own dyno chart at the end of the vid man
sushiJohni 3 months ago
doesn't dynapak over exaggerates on whp? dyno jet more accurate or no?
lsvtec 4 months ago
why waste money on this? i got 351whp with a pieced together turbo kit that ran me 1600 for everything including my dyno tune, theres a video in my favorites of me racing a 312who eg hatch with nitrous.
will757 4 months ago
@will757 my guess is some ppls like the feeling they get from all motor then the turbo....all motor all the way...and i also like turbo but lil less then all motor. lol
xjohnnyxriverra 4 months ago
@will757 Depends on your goals man. An NA engine has way better throttle response, and has its emphasis under a cornering situation on the entrance. Turbo's emphasis is on the exit. Depends on what you want as a driver. Yeah, if you don't like the power and torque numbers, then definitely use as much forced induction as you see fit. If feel and character are what you're looking for, build a beasly NA engine. I don't drag race much, so I don't care to much for boost, personally.
nonstophero0079 2 months ago
put a lighter in front of it
ilovemyeg2sir 4 months ago
is that ITBS i see :D
fuckn niceeeee!
CeeEmmz 5 months ago
11,000 rpm 186 hp not 206hp.........9436rpm 206 hp this video vs the video description ONE BIG LIE where is the 240hp @ flywheel
NelsonChevelle 6 months ago 5
This video should be called "Civic B16 208HP". Anyone who cares to read the Dyno sheet can tell that it's not making 240HP.
Magwai20xd6 6 months ago 2
Did it throw a rod yet?
vietl30i 6 months ago
was that spray a nitrous shot?
BlueAllJ 6 months ago
@BlueAllJ No, They are called stand off injectors. They work on itb's because the fuel is bounced off the throttle plate and this allows it to atomize the F/A mixture more efficiently. I think its a crap theory, but it looks cool as hell.
HeyMan096 6 months ago
@HeyMan096 looks insane I reckon :D
BlueAllJ 6 months ago
@BlueAllJ And 11k rpm... this engine is made for the track.
HeyMan096 6 months ago
@HeyMan096 crap enough for f1 and a lot of race teams to use tho
0187Koffi 5 months ago
@0187Koffi Well that's them lol. From personal experience it's not a good setup. My friend's Integra GSR had the same setup and same injector cover. He didn't do his scheduled injector cleaning so the injector on cyl 3 got partially clogged and was spraying gas all over all over the crankcase. Some exposed wiring from his shit security system created a spark and the whole front half of the car blew. Similar story when in high school we did a custom ITB setup on a Ford Tarus.
HeyMan096 5 months ago
@HeyMan096 ya well i think you could say its not a viable street setup more so than its a crap theory because the theory of it is very good, the practicality of it on a street car would be poor. I would've thought with a proper airbox and filter it would have been alright for a weekend streeter. Always surprised to see trick intake setups like this without it or filters.
0187Koffi 5 months ago
Why does America use horrible 91 octane fuel? My lawnmower has a minimum requirement of 95 octane and my brothers TKM Kart uses 98 octane, which is at 99% of filling stations in the UK/Europe xD
liamcollister 7 months ago
@liamcollister because our government doesnt mind letting companies mix "ethanol" and who knows what other garbage into our fuel. as long as they get some taxes out of it . not to mention its less economical we end up having to use more fuel, it collects water condensation in our fuel tanks turns into gummy shit. but there gettin paid so who cares right WHOHOO USA!!
uhhhhwhat 7 months ago
@liamcollister Octane ratings in NA is rated differently than UK/Europe. All the standard grades you have we also have aswell but as a different rating.
undeadkillers 6 months ago
@liamcollister, some states sell 93 octane fuel. it depends on where you are, but it never goes any higher. the higher the octane, the more expensive the petrol...
KJaySloan 6 months ago
@KJaySloan I wouldn't start complaining about petrol prices, it's £1.50 per litre where I am!
liamcollister 6 months ago
@KJaySloan Theres a gas station in my city that sells 106 octane.
iHackExploit 5 months ago
@ rotaryturbo88 you know it
blucivicsi1999 8 months ago
forget crank walk, now we got timing belt walk at redline! Put the plastics back on before someone gets hurt, ya I know "it looks cool" but reallllly?
SRVPrelude 8 months ago
@rs250nut, boom goes the dynamite!
blucivicsi1999 8 months ago
@blucivicsi1999 hahahha from tosh.o?
rotaryturbo88 8 months ago
What about the cam belt about to jump off then?
rs250nut 8 months ago
11000rpm fuck yh !!!
suprakid2jz 9 months ago
i like this so much but im confused the injectors spay from a distance? what about low rpm do you loose fuel
RzXVeRSaTiiLe 9 months ago
lol that fuel cloud is awesome
MrBitchesssStepmania 9 months ago
ooo that cam belt, anyone see that? :O
asheyconnect17 9 months ago 64
@asheyconnect17 never noticed first time round, nice one :O indeed
adamsubtract81 7 months ago
@asheyconnect17 ya i waived to it too
bodybagged83 2 months ago
all that bullshit to make what a bolt on type r would make. get rid of that bullshit bottom end.
d00mofhumanity 9 months ago
@d00mofhumanity 0_o
quickbeeare 8 months ago
how's part throttle like?
kevracing78 10 months ago
u have 206 hp at 9400 rpm idk where u got the 240 from lol and someone else mentioned the 11k redline, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless your GT3 or quicker just sayin its a honda not a ferrari but still think its sick.
ITsIMP0RT4NT 10 months ago
omfg sex
Aeonswins 10 months ago
No point going up so high, power stops at 9500rpm I believe
TaLoCc 10 months ago
i wish the belt would come off and hit you in the fuckin face!!!! lol
DRIFTxBBC 11 months ago
first time i seen injectors being sprayed into itb.... in the open as well, so you can actually see the stream, wow.
knduong 11 months ago
@knduong i agree, didnt know they did that, thats so badass
sippincoladas 11 months ago
@knduong I replayed it in full screen. that is awesome.
evosmybitch 10 months ago
whats being sprayed in??
jhaze918 11 months ago
@jhaze918 gasoline
automotiveDIY 11 months ago
@automotiveDIY No it's not you tard! Fuel being sprayed in! That's a fucking ridiculous idea!
danglingslong 10 months ago
B16's can reach 280hp max with mods. That's N/A(no boost)
moeschizlac 11 months ago
@moeschizlac i know this one guy who has over 325 with no boost on a b16a2
PRZJ91 11 months ago
Le grand inconscient qui filme pendant que le moteur est à plus de 10krpm...you're crazy man...
typeRF20c 1 year ago
91 octane with meth injection?
rs200000000000 1 year ago
hey man has ur shit caught on fire yet .
sixspeed 1 year ago 13
Maybe you guys can explain this for me; why is the torque curve on this engine so strange? It has pretty serious dips at around 4200rpm, 6200rpm, and 7800 rpm; I feel AWESOME it spins so high, but peak torque was made at about 88-8900 rpm, and peak hp was made at around 9500 rpm. Why does it need to rev to 11k? EXPENSIVE set up too with ITB's and stand off injectors. I'm not dissing the setup; I want to build a high rev "poor man's ITR" myself with a B18C1 and an B16 head and "R" pistons.
nonstophero0079 1 year ago
@nonstophero0079
The car doesn't have variable valve timing, so cam design can only be 3 things, low end, mid range, or high end power. It revs to 11,000 rpms because it can, and it allows you to run a shorter gear ratio and make use of it.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 I understand about the cam not being able to be optimized for the entire powerband. There are massive DIPS in the power band near the RPM's I listed in my last comment. I think they spun it that high simply because they could. There isn't to much of a point to rev that far past your peak horsepower number.
nonstophero0079 11 months ago
yeah! 185 hp @11,000...
hondailia 1 year ago
lol wtf? the injectors just spray across a gap into the ITB's? how does it idle? i mean the plate would be closed, how does the fuel get in?
chillincruisin 1 year ago
@chillincruisin its the same kinda fuel injection system that formula 1 uses... :O they idle just fine
bane56439 7 months ago
was that methanol injection ?
rs200000000000 1 year ago
very nice placement of the injectors
Twitchc0rp 1 year ago
@Twitchc0rp pretty those arent injectors as you can see farther down the runners it has fuel injectors. it is most likely water meth, which is still a very cool way to do it.
tharaggedyak 1 year ago
thats just stupid 11000 rpm! think of keeping on the stock rpm gauge that would look brutal
byronbja 1 year ago
What.. "only "208whp @ 11000rpm... up here we did a B16 engine this autumn and it pushed 223whp @ 8963rpm .. using only "shelf-parts".. Mostly SKUNK parts...!
(Runnin E85 fuel...)
TETVTEC 1 year ago
@TETVTEC It is 208 whp at 9436rpm not 11k
k9forkids 1 year ago
@TETVTEC this one is on 91 and is a stock bottom end ,, its not like anyones re-inventing the wheel here ,, these motors have been around since 96 in america , and im pretty sure you guys arent the first to make 223 with a b16
b20mr2 1 year ago
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@TETVTEC this one is on 91 and is a stock bottom end ,, its not like anyones re-inventing the wheel here ,, these motors have been around since 93 in america , and im pretty sure you guys arent the first to make 223 with a b16
b20mr2 1 year ago
208 hp not 240 but, this score is impressive on 1.6, from 160 to 208, very nice :)
ventyl1256 1 year ago
@ventyl1256
208 Wheel horse power translates to about 240+ hp at the crank. and the 160 hp stock rating is also measured at the crank. so this engine makes about 48 more HP than a stock B16.
noahdusty 1 year ago
@noahdusty I'm sorry, my mistake, this car is a small rocket :)
ventyl1256 1 year ago
@noahdusty a stock b16 makes around 120 to the wheel so your wrong
b20mr2 1 year ago
@b20mr2 stock b16 has 160bhp at the fly. So 1/4 (25%) (40bhp) power loss to the wheels? Errrr..... yeh? or...... errrrr.... ?
mattheep12 1 year ago
@mattheep12
Stock B16 really does make about 125-130 at the wheels. Guy isn't lying dude.
w00t692 1 year ago
@b20mr2 LOL! Pow! So you're saying it makes 88hp over stock? Schweet!!!
noahdusty 1 year ago
@b20mr2 with a name like b20mr2 you think you would know something about hondas.... research before acting a pro.
fairygodbrother 1 year ago
240 out of 1.6L
respectable...
prisonbreak7760 1 year ago
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prisonbreak7760 1 year ago
Those injectors are THEE coolest thing I have seen on an engine . Props for a clean motor.
GhostFerret3000 1 year ago
how's part throttle dribving like?good or poor?
kevracing78 1 year ago
so the car made peak power at around 9500 and you guys reved it to 11k for no apparent reason? cool.
d00mofhumanity 1 year ago
@d00mofhumanity the hp drop is nothing compared to the fact that in a drag race you can rev almost 1.5 times than most of the others, + it still pushes over 190 hp at the limiter. So yea, 11k all the way imo.
0235681956 1 year ago
@d00mofhumanity
Maybe to see if they can have till there.
Maybe to keep rpm high enough to engage the next gear in the peak power zone
?????
michaelovitch 1 year ago
@michaelovitch If you need to rev anywhere past 9k to keep your car in its peak power range then id consider changing gearing. Reving to 11k is useless as you can see in the dyno chart the power falls off around 9.2k or so. I could careless, this engine isn't in my car and i will NEVER even consider dealing with sdpauto in anyway. Thanks for showing me what NOT to do!
d00mofhumanity 1 year ago
@d00mofhumanity
8 comments below your comment they said they were so high because they can.
Their engine looks reliable and it's maybe to show it is.
And as they said they can.
It's not more stupid that climbing a mountain.
i agree with you for the gears but it was only my suggestion on this reving.
michaelovitch 1 year ago
your website??
miltos1993 1 year ago
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projectD32 1 year ago
i hate dyno packs. try using a dyno jet. then you will know what your driving on everyday. but nice build. using a dyno jet you would probably only make about 189whp to 192whp.
mathewtsab 1 year ago
Are you guys near montreal?
BloodyFingerz 1 year ago
yes we are in Trois-Rivieres
sdpauto 1 year ago
@sdpauto et puis combien ca vaux ce petit joujou? :P
xlechasseurx 11 months ago
whats the pont of going to 11,000 rpm when your only making power until what looks like 9,500
avengedman666 1 year ago
@avengedman666 Because we can! XD
Helldorado2008 1 year ago 2
Here is a hint to the power, those are equal lrngrh headers which can produce up to 30ho alone, aswell it has ITB's to breathe, and I did not hear a vtec meaning it probably has killer cams, and all of the other toda head parts, 240hp sounds about right
Brendon00000 1 year ago
Yah ! made in Quebec !
davbutcher 1 year ago
@Marshmallowrex I think they are mesuring at the wheels. Stock is mesured at the crank so its prbably more like 65 hp or more
meronmotors 1 year ago
@meronmotors You dont lose that much HP from the crank to the wheels on a fwd car. You lose more like 35-40 if that. Rear wheel drive is different because it has to go through the trqanny, then the driveshaft, then the differential. So it takes more to get everything spinning
bradlyw420 1 year ago
Even though I have dreams of big power out of a b16, i know that internal mods will shorten the life, I just plan on getting the b16b, getting a aluminum rad, some cams gears, PJDM intake, and a fuel rail, the engine is amazing the way it comes, more than enough power for my crx
Brendon00000 1 year ago
I don't like stand-offs. I think it's better to place the injectors closer to the valves. Sure, when you do this i guess the fuel gets properly mixed around with the air considering the length it has to go and the time it has to mix together with the air. But still i don't really like them. Probably because you can see the fuel squirting about. Feels like it can somewhere else than into the engine.
kimgulle 1 year ago
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gtrain101a 1 year ago
yeah using toda parts or skunk2 will give you power,but the engine wont last for long.
ive rebuilt the head on my b16a,using higher up the range honda internals.
and mine made 200 bhp
gtrain101a 1 year ago
DonHumbostoni, its not the ITB's that give much increase in power maybe 20hp on a stock b16, they just help increase the flow of air, its camshafts that determine your real increase in power, to get easy power on the b16, fully build the head with TODA parts: killer cams, retainers, valves, springs, etc, then get an equal length 4-1 header and ITB's, its probably wha this one has and im putting this stuff on a b16b
Brendon00000 1 year ago
sweet. same power as a stock k24a2....
turboturtle22 1 year ago
does anyone know how much bhp increase you get by adding ITB's? my b16a2 is running roughly at 175bhp im wondering what gain in bhp i can expect by adding ITB's??
DonHumbostoni 1 year ago
That's cool it can handle 11,000 RPM, but you are better off shifting at about 9,000 RPM. The torque drops and hp drops early, so there is no point to reving it that high.
gooseco 1 year ago
Wow 240hp on a b16A, I wonder how much
Power I could get out of a b16b ctr engine with toda killer cams, ITB's and equal length headers, 270hp? This is my dream for my crx
Brendon00000 1 year ago
@Brendon00000 no.... you'll never achieve that off those parts rofl... keep dreaming
Jaran912 1 year ago
i want this in my honda logo
zodram 1 year ago
ya id call endyn and get an upper tensioner.
integraracer157 1 year ago
are thoes fuel injectors? they are crazy! but they prob dont help like that since ur only makein 208hp on a motor that looks fully built
Adammartini 1 year ago
I am not familiar with the throttle body system is that fuel spraying inside of them?
zeromethod1337 1 year ago
why do you have your injectors separated from the actual port like that?
JVCnd4spd 1 year ago
whats that thing run on strawberry douche?
cumminspower2256 1 year ago
Its not the size that counts its how you use it
Brendon00000 1 year ago
What fuel rail you got in? and dam you should swapped with b18C haha
oreo1eater 1 year ago
Its funny when people talk about how they have twice the horsepower but they leave out the part where what they drive weighs twice as much.
JLawr679 1 year ago
honda can lick the rank sweat from under my ball sack
urlacher05 1 year ago
and ive taken 5.0's with a stock LS haha
YADADIDIG 1 year ago
@YADADIDIG lying to the fullest i got a sooped rs and my bro's 5.0 will smoke the shit out of me you dont got to lie to kick it
ZxMURDER 1 year ago
@ZxMURDER a stock 5.slow
YADADIDIG 1 year ago
@YADADIDIG watever man i guess i got to upload sum vids!!
ZxMURDER 1 year ago
@tonymadhouse my chevelle had an brand new tranny(Richmond 4 speed T10) new fully adjustable suspension(Hotchkis TVS)rated to turn better than any euro sports car, and a new rear axle housing (Currie GMA6872X) with new axles(Moser A33CST) and a new ring and pinions(Richmond 49-0011-1) and a new torque converter(TCI Pro-X 251409)
so say its not capable of turning or going fast? im not redneck by the way I live in so cal dipshit
MPRdrummer 1 year ago
ok sooo question. im so confused. im looking at the fuel rail its still sitting in the back of the motor instead of on top of the ITB'S now im looking at the fuel injectors ITS IT ME OR AM I SEEING THE FUEL BEING INJECTED INTO THE ITB's
NOW another thing im looking on top of the ITB's between the head and the throttle arm. WY THE HELL DO I SEE THE SPARK PLUGS.
i mean seriously someone please explain this to me .ha
hottuner 1 year ago
Building the engine isnt that expensive if you have a job here is a few parts im planning on
B16b ctr engine
Crower 2.1 stroker kit
Obx itb's
Skunk2 stage 3 cams/gears
Valve springs/retainers
Upgraded fuel system
And a bit more stuff like this can get you 250hp easy
Brendon00000 1 year ago
Maybe you guys can explain this for me; why is the torque curve on this engine so strange? It has pretty serious dips at around 4200rpm, 6200rpm, and 7800 rpm; I feel AWESOME it spins so high, but peak torque was made at about 88-8900 rpm, and peak hp was made at around 9500 rpm. Why does it need to rev to 11k? EXPENSIVE set up too with ITB's and stand off injectors. I'm not dissing the setup; I want to build a high rev "poor man's ITR" myself with a B18C1 and an B16 head and "R" pistons.
nonstophero0079 1 year ago
@nonstophero0079 get a nice 454 and run low revs and get more torque and hp
MPRdrummer 1 year ago
@MPRdrummer I'm not gonna talk trash about American cars, because I respect them too. I do get bugged about "this is better than that" arguments though. To each his own. Anyways, when I made the statement "you guys" I was hoping the posters of the video would respond. Sure, I'll get a big boost in torque with a good ol' 454, but I'm trying to figure out why the torque curve for this B-series engine looks so strange.
nonstophero0079 1 year ago
@MPRdrummer i smoked a 454 chevy ss truck in my 4 cylinder crx lol
KILLERBJDMEF8 1 year ago
@KILLERBJDMEF8 454 chevy trucks came out on the 90s
notice the 90s is when companies started fuckign with the internals to get better mpg?
454 chevy silverados werent exactly great torque or hp they had so much shit on them that slowed them down its a shame
any new v8 you see isnt great
sure its got more pick up but nothing compared to the 70's and 60's v8s
but id expect a honda owner to come and tell me they smoked a newer v8 just because thats what honda owners do
MPRdrummer 1 year ago
@MPRdrummer with all do respect i smoked me a 04 mustang gt with some loud fukin mufflers like by 8 car lenghts!! i let off at 133mph why keep going he wasn't gonna catch me,i just kept pulling on um,kool guy though...my gsr crx is a stock motor with bolt ons,internals remain stock...i hang with ss camaros but still i don't get respect from the v8 guy's,i'm no v8 hater,never will be,my dream car is and will always be a 69 ss camaro with a 350 twin turbo set up.....i love v8's !!!!!
KILLERBJDMEF8 1 year ago
@KILLERBJDMEF8 So many ppl under rate the lil 4 bangers yet ive seen so many v8s get destroyed by them hahaha but its all good let em hate gives the 4 bangers a reason to be around :P
Cancer2707 1 year ago
@KILLERBJDMEF8 But you can't rip up tree stumps and pull boats.....
MarcsMobileAudio 1 year ago
awesome b16, im trying to find out ways to get 220whp out of one, what do you need to build?, ITB's, 12:1 pistons, valve springs, polished head, stage 2 cams, and intake manifold is all I can think of, and by the way for everyone else, I doubt your chevy's can beat this on a circuit track, your powerful v8's are meant for straight lines only
Brendon00000 1 year ago
why so much money into a 1.6 ? why not a 2.0 ? just wondering ...
b20mr2 1 year ago
you probably use stage three or very over sized flywheel so the teeth and gear are very closer.
Shazee083 1 year ago
my friends dad wants to do a build like this one. sounds awsome. can you message me some details if posible. i need as much information as possible.
dang, that motor spun so high, my eye balls almost came out. speachless, awsome build
mathewtsab 1 year ago
I'd love to see all these import haters cry and shit themselfs in a drag civic pulling 9's lol
laurence265 1 year ago
@laurence265 they already do shit themselves when it happens
PumaM90 1 year ago
What kind of header is that? and what kind of valve springs are you using?
Bpwr3dEH 1 year ago
dam i love how it rev for days.
TaLoCc 1 year ago
gosh you quit making power 3000 rpms ago already
oskar87A1 1 year ago
impressive
preludefan 1 year ago
direct injection !!!!!
jimikestell1 2 years ago
@jimikestell1
Definitely not.
hites05 2 years ago
yes clever you
jimikestell1 2 years ago
lol you dont inject water into your engine ,if it goes into the engine itll get compressed (which it cant do) causing it to break and bend valves and possibly crack or blow a hole in your engine , water is sprayed on the intercoolers of engines with turbos or supercharges to cool the air going into the engine down , n/a cars like this one have radiators cooling the eningine via bock cavity. , those were individual direct port throttle bodies, those injectors were putting petrol into the engine.
jimikestell1 2 years ago
they are called stand off injectors
frunkmasterflex 2 years ago 6
@frunkmasterflex What is the advantage doing that ?
boilingpoint2 1 year ago
@frunkmasterflex those are ITB;s
theRDRman 1 year ago
Yes you can injector water into your engine.
Learn some more about cars before you talk.
Ever heard of cooling mist, Devils own, Or AEM water/meth kit???
You can run water into your engines as a mist and it will knock down you cylinder wall and EGT temps. Meth is an anti-knock fuel. 112 octane.
Please research before you try and knock on other ppl.
antmansohcvtec 2 years ago
exactly, so to the guys not understanding why you CAN inject water into your combustion chambers please read the above, there are also lots of books on the subject.
jasaircraft 2 years ago