John Whitehead Challenges MSNBCs Keith Olbermann to Stand Up for Free Speech

[BryceVandergriftMOM]

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[artwdog]

I love Keith O, you...not so much.

[TheJcp1234]

Hey Olbermann! How are your ratings! Ha Ha!

[Gizziiusa]

Its common knowledge, and common sense that he is a public servant of his constituants and shouldnt evade them in some nook-n-cranny.

[101orson101]

Then Mr Whitehead says free speech is null and void if you can't confront your target up front and personal. Hmmm? Don't seem to be stopping anyone here om U tune. Didn't stop the million man march. Didn't stop the 2 million man march. Never stopped any congressman or senator I ever saw complaining. never stops Obama finding fault with repubs. Doesn't stop the 911 tin foilers. Certainly don't stop Glen Beck. Or for that matter my noisey neighbors with their fralking hiphop. Parsimonius piss!

[101orson101]

Oh? By the way. I love the tea baggers. Hate big government. Especially hate Obamacare. And in general hate all assholes that overstep their rights. thinking they are more important, or pertinent than others. Like the guys that yell out,"I'm your boss!" While being arrested for the inability to follow the law, or breaking it on purpose, or trying to use it against other people while flagrently violating it themseloves. While all the time huffing and puffing," I own the moral high ground!" BS!

[bagruen]

olbermann is a boring piss head. He has the worlds worst show,, maybe tied with R maddow

[TimeToFlush]

What is wrong with having our elected representatives meet in Parliament over in Great Britain like they used to?

If elected officials are serving the public interest then they should remain accessible to those people because they represent them. If they are serving corporate interest, yes they better hide because people are tired of it and can't take much more.

John did an excellent job underscoring the issue once again. I'm surprised Olbermann missed it the first time.

[Chuichupachichi]

I don't think he missed it.

The rulers who are working towards making us their silent slaves, control the media

Olbermann is simply being a obedient puppet and collecting his nice paycheck

[101orson101]

Anyone has the right to free speech and peaceful protesting. No question. But everyone also understands that a protest that takes place ten blocks from the object has less effect as well. And that is what is being proposed here. Their desire was in his face. He said no. They have no more right to that, than he has to denie it. That is equal protection. Where did I hear that before? Oh yah. Somewhere in the amendments too.

[101orson101]

This is what's currently wrong with our understandings of the amendments. We want to rewrite them one at a time to use them to our benefits. BUT! Exactly who's benefits. The majority of people who have been guaranteed life, liberty and the pursuit? Or those who in the minority want to stretch every one to extremes to get what they want. Fralk PC. Things have stretched way too far already. These people are killing the constitution, and we worry about the government doing it? Fralk PC!

[101orson101]

You want to picket carrying a sign that you don't like the color of my car? Fine! No problem. BUT! YOU dod not have the right to come inside my workplace to do it. Nor on mty private property. Nor on others's private property, nor in livingroom. Nor inside my car. Nor inside the theater while I trying to enjoy the movie. Nor inside my church while I'm there. Nor oh so many other places. Yet John wants to make me liable to quietly stand there as you demonstrate. Hmmm? Show me the law please?

[101orson101]

I'm sorry. But I was unaware that the first amendment had a subsection that REQUIRES anyone to be REQUIRED to stand or be in ANY particular place when anyone else is exercising their free speech options. So now he wants to make it my obligation by law to make myself available to anyone who chooses to yell at me. How's this John? SPEAK TO THE HAND! And I don't mean mine. NOTHING in the first requires anyone to stand before their protestors. Nor their right to protest! But not in my back yard.

[RutherfordInstitute]

@101orson101 Just to clarify, John Whitehead never suggested Perriello was violating any laws. Rather, Whitehead, in a letter that can be found on The Rutherford Institute website, encouraged Perriello to relocate his office, after his lease expires, to a place where public petitioning and demonstrations would not conflict with private property interests. Whitehead fully supports privacy rights and has only suggested that Periello, a public servant, make himself more accessible to the people.

[101orson101]

Understood! Agreed! But non the less the point I made was just as relevent. As far as accessable. Are you telling me they could not make an appointment to visit and talk with him? If so? Hmmm? BUT! I still stand on what I said. Where are any protestors guaranteed access to those they choose to protest? You say it would be nice. I say not, if it violates HIS personal rights. IF HE chooses that? Fine. But no force or obuscating the rule of law. No demanding HE must stand still for them, anywhere.

[RutherfordInstitute]

@101orson101 Though subject to interpretation, the First Amendment guarantees "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." As you note, it does not guarantee access. Whitehead's letter to Periello merely reminded the congressman that political demonstrations are an important part of democracy, and that Periello—should he relocate—would alleviate any conflict between these activities and privacy laws. Thanks for your comments!

[101orson101]

Indeed! We find agreement after all. Because as the devils advocate I must say that as a PUBLIC OFFICIAL he indeed has secial responsabilities and thus constitutes a special case. So while the letter may have been in common cause, What I was commenting on was the protester DEMAND that he move. That was never questioned in the video. Protestors frequently DEMAND what may indeed be theirs to ask. Yet that is infrequently the tenor used. Confrontation is far less productive that debate and manners.

[Chuichupachichi]

@101orson101,

You're way out in the parking lot beyond left field. Firstly, no one wants you to be obligated by law to make yourself available, being that you're not a public official

Secondly, do you think it unjust for your employer to have it so that he can give you an earful anytime he feels it necessary... presupposing that he deals with you justly? Or do you feel that anytime in which you may not perform up to standards or are at fault regarding anything, that it's your legal right to

[101orson101]

@Chuichupachichi You know what I didn't hear in that report. That the people were denied access to the offices. What I did hear was that they were not allowed to DEMONSTRATE outside the neignbors business.Presuming ? When did the constitution say I had to presume anything? You are completely fralked up about similies. Maybe someone needs to explain them to you. Show me that the congressman refused to see any of them in his office. Or that he refused to listen to any of them amigo.

[Chuichupachichi]

be shielded from having to face your employer/boss & what he has to say to you?

There's a reason why the US Constitution identifies us as "we the people". It's because "we the people" are supposed to be the sovereigns of this nation. There's a reason why elected & all public officials are paid their salaries with our tax dollars

They're our employees & we're the "Boss". That means they're not supposed to be able to hide in the cafeteria or bathroom every time we have something to say to them

[101orson101]

@Chuichupachichi Wrong again amigo. WE the people does not make us dictators any more than it does the congressman. And if WE the peoploe are gona be pisy people. Then piss on all of us for being stupid spoiled children, and some of the shittiest bosses in history. Go cry in the corner. I divorce you as an amigo. And if you were one of the protestors? It is all as clear as crystal why the problems. You a piss poor boss! Exactly what I'd tell any boss acting like you.Bosses are not dictators!

[texaca]

@Chuichupachichi try getting any public official to admit to that one, "They're our employees",... Try that down at the municipal court, or with your Local-Tax Collector (ie: Police Office), most have No Concept of that, in-fact they are trained to think that we are the servants of the system.. Because most of the them are idiots, thats why they are in government.

[YahiaAlWajid]

Congratulations with your award! It's the best advertizement one can get these days. Be glad John, that you're in America. We in Europe can't even reach our parlementarians, hidden as they are behind rows of violent police to protect them from view. Why is that so? I wonder....!?

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[AiresQX4]

I liked Obermann when Bush was in office but now that a Democrat is in office he's too much of an ass kisser.

[defiythelie]

Keith clearly has an anti-free speech agenda. I mean he calls T.E.A. T-baggers, now I know alot of people do but it is very disrespectful, and is a blatant attempt to turn people away from protest. And to demonize those involved in T.E.A. because they " bother" there government at there spa's.

[QuartuvLarry]

You sure about that, defiythelie? Look up my most recent video.

Maybe this will work here...

watch?v=dmJO4Z7pXUA

[juggernaut44]

i cant believe that keith oberman called rutherfod the worst person in the world. i guess he doesnt relaize that rutherord is if anything more left than right. thats why i stopped watching oberman because hes too left, and hes only like that because bill oreilly keeps kicking his ass in the ratings everyday.

[QuartuvLarry]

What's left wing about the Rutherford Institute? Their aversion to war overseas? That's not enough to make them leftists.

[juggernaut44]

alot of his vids criticizes past republican presidents and politicians far moe than left wing politicians .beside this video, and videos about congress this is his first criticism on a left from what ive heard

[QuartuvLarry]

Well, that's back when they were in power. The democrats have a few years of catching up to accrue the equal amount of videos. And in case you haven't noticed lately, "republican" doesn't necessarily mean right wing.

I see Whitehead is liberTARIAN, not liberAL, and that makes a world of difference when it comes to having allies.

[juggernaut44]

maybe so..

[NARCOPOLO76]

Its very sad to hear keith attack Mr. Whitehead, I used to love to listen to him blast Bush, But for the last year he has seemed to become A tremendous douche bag twards anyone who disagrees with his "team", I also dont think its fair to call someone who has devoted their life to defending peoples rights, lazy, Cmon! olberman pull ur head out !!

[NARCOPOLO76]

first!!