Thank you for the video. My husband & I tried to find the Mo'okini Heiau on our last visit. We went all the way down the dirt rd (after turnning left @ the airport). then, we came to a house on our left, amost all the way to the water/cliffs edge. From there, we turned right and drove a long way. It was incredibly bumpy & rough terrain. But, we never saw it! Can you tell me where we went wrong in our directions? If we had even been CLOSE, we sure couldn't have missed it! Thanks!
NO...PILI AND PA'AO were SAMOAN brothers from SAMOA not KAHIKI!! AND KING KAMEHAMEHA is of SAMOAN descent...his original name was "Tamameamea" many other people, maybe even Hawaiians, may not agree or even have heard about it but that is a story passed down from generation to generation in Samoan families and i always remember hearing about these things when my grandma and mom and aunts and uncles talked about this!!
@jlsamoa Actually, many well informed Hawaiians acknowledge that Kamehameha's royal line originate in Samoa; it's just that some Hawaiians (not all), as well as other cultures in Hawaii today, are so anti Samoan, they had to change the truth. Now they are lying to the younger generation, so they can meet an anti Samoan agenda.
My video, my music---I'm Scots--it's the signature intro music for my studio and we do a lot more than just Hawaii point of interest videos. Sorry it bothers you. Don't watch.
@DrBlizzardo My name is Nalei Antone Jr. I am a grand nephew of aunt leimomi mo'okini, for all that she has told me saddens me to hear such a story told & changed from someone who has no ancestrial knowledge of our heiau & i care less of your music & ancestrial background
My video, my music---I'm Scots--it's the signature intro music for my studio and we do a lot more than just Hawaii point of interest videoes. Sorry it bothers you. Don't watch.
I have removed none of his comments; the comments were removed by their author--if you notice--he removed his own comments. When I take them down, they disappear completely--you never even know they were made.
I believe you'll notice I have gone out of my way to accommodate and respect ALL traditions and stories in a very short video...and many of these are deeply conflicting.
Please send me your suggestions, corrections and ideas...as you can see, I want these to be as accurate as possible.
I have removed none of his comments; the comments were removed by author—if you notice--he removed his own comments. When I remove them, they disappear completely--as if they were never made.
I try to make these as accurate as possible, given the deeply conflicting nature of many oral traditions and stories. I work closely with many Hawaiian groups to insure this. Please send me any suggestions or corrections and the historical citations on which they are based--I'd really appreciate it.
I'm curious...?? The story of this Mo'okini by the families Kahuna of Mo'okini she tell's Pa'ao is from Samoa not Tahiti. Why was the story changed in this video? In the late King Kalakaua's book he wrote that Pa'ao is from Samoa. I'm wondering at what point did the story change and why..?? If you post this the story will change in the minds of many. Eventually they will teach it. Please respect the story told by Leimomi Mo'okini Lum the Kahuna of this Mo'okini Heiau.
One of the great joys of working in Hawai'ian history is that there are so many families and so many stories--many of them complimentary and many of them contradictory. But there is a rich palette of oral tradition and and varied tapestry of interpretation--this is the version put out by the Bishop Museum, for better or for worse.
Pa'ao may indeed, or indeed may not, have originated in Samoa, but he came to Hawai'i from Tahiti, with Tahitian princes and Kahuna...most people agree on this.
@DrBlizzardo Actually, King Kalakaua said it hismself. His royal lineage originated in Samoa. That's why the Big Island has many Samoan names, like 'Upolu, which is the name of one of the Samoan islands. It seems to me that you and the Bishop museum chose the anti-Samoan lies over the king's account. Many stories contradict each other, but the king has spoken. His royal his ancestors came from Samoa. Yet, you chose to believe the lies of commoners and ignore the king's account.
i think pa'ao is from tahiti but is samoan frm manu'a thats where his lnes come from also pili the great warriors are from savaii, it was pili and paao that braught polyneisan systems to hawaii, like the tu'i manu'a ruled the pacific, as kamehameha ruled the hawaiian islands, the monarchy was run samoan style as for the tongans also because of kanokupolu had samoan blood
Thank you for the video. My husband & I tried to find the Mo'okini Heiau on our last visit. We went all the way down the dirt rd (after turnning left @ the airport). then, we came to a house on our left, amost all the way to the water/cliffs edge. From there, we turned right and drove a long way. It was incredibly bumpy & rough terrain. But, we never saw it! Can you tell me where we went wrong in our directions? If we had even been CLOSE, we sure couldn't have missed it! Thanks!
promofairie1 7 months ago
NO...PILI AND PA'AO were SAMOAN brothers from SAMOA not KAHIKI!! AND KING KAMEHAMEHA is of SAMOAN descent...his original name was "Tamameamea" many other people, maybe even Hawaiians, may not agree or even have heard about it but that is a story passed down from generation to generation in Samoan families and i always remember hearing about these things when my grandma and mom and aunts and uncles talked about this!!
jlsamoa 11 months ago
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theephraimite 7 months ago
@jlsamoa Actually, many well informed Hawaiians acknowledge that Kamehameha's royal line originate in Samoa; it's just that some Hawaiians (not all), as well as other cultures in Hawaii today, are so anti Samoan, they had to change the truth. Now they are lying to the younger generation, so they can meet an anti Samoan agenda.
theephraimite 7 months ago
Sorry, I'm Jewish, and we don't preserve places dedicated to human slaughter, we burn them.
ThornUvDaath777 11 months ago
My video, my music---I'm Scots--it's the signature intro music for my studio and we do a lot more than just Hawaii point of interest videos. Sorry it bothers you. Don't watch.
DrBlizzardo 1 year ago
@DrBlizzardo My name is Nalei Antone Jr. I am a grand nephew of aunt leimomi mo'okini, for all that she has told me saddens me to hear such a story told & changed from someone who has no ancestrial knowledge of our heiau & i care less of your music & ancestrial background
GearsOfWarAddict808 8 months ago
My video, my music---I'm Scots--it's the signature intro music for my studio and we do a lot more than just Hawaii point of interest videoes. Sorry it bothers you. Don't watch.
DrBlizzardo 1 year ago
wtf is scottish music doing to introduce this video, thats dumb,
789hawaiiangurl 1 year ago
I have removed none of his comments; the comments were removed by their author--if you notice--he removed his own comments. When I take them down, they disappear completely--you never even know they were made.
I believe you'll notice I have gone out of my way to accommodate and respect ALL traditions and stories in a very short video...and many of these are deeply conflicting.
Please send me your suggestions, corrections and ideas...as you can see, I want these to be as accurate as possible.
DrBlizzardo 2 years ago
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hohepahenare 2 years ago
I have removed none of his comments; the comments were removed by author—if you notice--he removed his own comments. When I remove them, they disappear completely--as if they were never made.
I try to make these as accurate as possible, given the deeply conflicting nature of many oral traditions and stories. I work closely with many Hawaiian groups to insure this. Please send me any suggestions or corrections and the historical citations on which they are based--I'd really appreciate it.
DrBlizzardo 2 years ago
I'm curious...?? The story of this Mo'okini by the families Kahuna of Mo'okini she tell's Pa'ao is from Samoa not Tahiti. Why was the story changed in this video? In the late King Kalakaua's book he wrote that Pa'ao is from Samoa. I'm wondering at what point did the story change and why..?? If you post this the story will change in the minds of many. Eventually they will teach it. Please respect the story told by Leimomi Mo'okini Lum the Kahuna of this Mo'okini Heiau.
wayne127 2 years ago 3
One of the great joys of working in Hawai'ian history is that there are so many families and so many stories--many of them complimentary and many of them contradictory. But there is a rich palette of oral tradition and and varied tapestry of interpretation--this is the version put out by the Bishop Museum, for better or for worse.
Pa'ao may indeed, or indeed may not, have originated in Samoa, but he came to Hawai'i from Tahiti, with Tahitian princes and Kahuna...most people agree on this.
DrBlizzardo 2 years ago
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hohepahenare 2 years ago
@DrBlizzardo Actually, King Kalakaua said it hismself. His royal lineage originated in Samoa. That's why the Big Island has many Samoan names, like 'Upolu, which is the name of one of the Samoan islands. It seems to me that you and the Bishop museum chose the anti-Samoan lies over the king's account. Many stories contradict each other, but the king has spoken. His royal his ancestors came from Samoa. Yet, you chose to believe the lies of commoners and ignore the king's account.
theephraimite 7 months ago
i think pa'ao is from tahiti but is samoan frm manu'a thats where his lnes come from also pili the great warriors are from savaii, it was pili and paao that braught polyneisan systems to hawaii, like the tu'i manu'a ruled the pacific, as kamehameha ruled the hawaiian islands, the monarchy was run samoan style as for the tongans also because of kanokupolu had samoan blood
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