Man! Now that (at 1:23) is a 'pear'! Just need to thicken her up some!
Anyways, like Schoenberg and others, Duchamp was really a product of the 19th century: needing to emulate or sur-realise the physical world. Kandinsky and successors transcended this.
This was an outstanding series. I didn't own a TV but worked in a fancy NYC brothel at the time, and we'd try to make sure to tune in this series every time. There were few clients then as they were often watching TV for this themselves! This happened a lot in NY -- if there was a good program on, we'd have no business. I paid for art school this way. Uprated and shared.
@takemondu Excellent. I have written about it often over the years. My story about it, MADISON ARTS, is in BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED magazine. It is a chapter in my next book, THE FINISHING SCHOOL. My writings are all over! I have a website and write still, my next work will be in the next FREAK WAVE. xo
Thank you for posting. I like the Vorticist movement. BLAST! inspired me to do my zine, BIKINI GIRL, now in many museum permanent collections. There are six pages and three color plates on me in MODERN WOMEN by MoMA -- my second group show there. My maiden name is Lisa Baumgardner. Uprated, but was unable to share -- YT limits us.
Duchamp decision to put a urinal in an Avante Garde show and calling it a Fountain opened the doors for modern, conceptual art - it's documented history not a popular perspective. He had been exploring this idea for at least 4 years before then - before travelling to New York . Interested in hearing other theories though!
Warhol was a graphic designer not a fine artist....art for the masses ( I don't mind him & appreciate his place in art history). The Cubists & futurists - even post impressionists of Europe were so far ahead of their time. Not even in the same league! Sorry!! :)
Only Robert Hughes - Australian Art ....can explain The Large Glass with such ease and eloquence! :)
I never knew that the use of glass was to eliminate the tedious and busy-work chore of painting staffage with the double advantage that the inessential elements of the work can and will change daily, hourly, minute to minute.
I never knew that the use of glass was to eliminate the tedious and busy-work chore of painting staffage with the double advantage that the inessential elements of the work can and will change daily, hourly, minute to minute.
I never knew that the use of glass was to eliminate the tedious and busy-work chore of painting staffage with the double advantage that the inessential elements of the work can and will change daily, hourly, minute to minute.
i think that artists work for their time and place, of course duchamp is a genius but his art worked well in his context, north american artists work for their moment, so, if you say that art from some region is the best, you have limits in your point of view and of course you will lose another revolutionary artist...
American Art is important. You may not personally like it but it is an important art to Arts history. We must embrace it and also remember where its roots are, That is in Europe.
He is a fucking genius!!!Not like American painters, which are stupid and repetitive!!!Specially those from the Expressionist Abstract period, which they did something that was done since 1900's!!But of course, the best dealers came from USA, after WWII, and that;s the reason why idiots like Warhol, Basquiat, Motherwell, DeKooning became famous!!!But really the best artists come from Europe, Japan, Latinamerica and that's it!!!!NO more than that!
Yes, He is a genius but you cant rule out american painters. Yes, real art came from Europe and japan and so on but American art is important. With out American art we wouldent have nso many art movements of today. American artists like Pollock and Warhol are geniuses. Pop art is repetitive but its making fun at abstract expressionism and mocking art and nchallanging what is art. Without American Art we wouldent have had Feminist art which challanged so much that it created Post Modernism.
Dude, don't tell me that Warhol is more genius than Marcel Duchamp, Picasso, Miro, Dali, Matisse, Derain, Bacon etc. Common Dude, let's be honest, the best dealers come from the U.S., so guess what artists are going to be the most succesful? Of course THE AMERICANS!!! Because Americans are very nationalistics
Im not going to lie Marcel Duchamp, Picasso, Miro, Dali, Matisse, Derain, Bacon are all genius but when they first came into art they used art to imitate life but when the camera was invented they were no longer needed to imitate life so they could finally explore form but when the American artists came into play they explored more than form, they challanged what was accepted as art to the point where house hold items are accepted as Art. Im not saying that americans are better than Europeans.
What im saying is that Art changes and Transforms and although it is good to have favorties we need to accept all Art. We cannot ignore significant movements of Art and say it was only because they had the best dealers. They only reason Art sells is because it is accepted by the public eye.
@VanishingActFilms You seem to somewhat ignorant of post ww2 european avante garde artists and movements, who were just as signifcant in terms of challanging the notion of art as americans.
Much more than that! Motherwell may have considered himself a Parisian counterpart, Dekooning fled trouble and came to recognition in the dealing world quiet late, mistakingly after his style had been in progression. The rest are irrelevant, To make a dignified statement about American abstraction against European Abstraction or realism would be partially absurd. Americans are at heart and almost by law radical to tradition, Hence the "New World".
Man! Now that (at 1:23) is a 'pear'! Just need to thicken her up some!
Anyways, like Schoenberg and others, Duchamp was really a product of the 19th century: needing to emulate or sur-realise the physical world. Kandinsky and successors transcended this.
aculturemind 3 months ago
GISHWHES 5:38 - 6:10 especially
Shar12866 4 months ago
This was an outstanding series. I didn't own a TV but worked in a fancy NYC brothel at the time, and we'd try to make sure to tune in this series every time. There were few clients then as they were often watching TV for this themselves! This happened a lot in NY -- if there was a good program on, we'd have no business. I paid for art school this way. Uprated and shared.
CuteCatFaith 5 months ago
@CuteCatFaith how was the brothel?
takemondu 5 months ago
@takemondu Excellent. I have written about it often over the years. My story about it, MADISON ARTS, is in BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED magazine. It is a chapter in my next book, THE FINISHING SCHOOL. My writings are all over! I have a website and write still, my next work will be in the next FREAK WAVE. xo
CuteCatFaith 5 months ago
Thank you for posting. I like the Vorticist movement. BLAST! inspired me to do my zine, BIKINI GIRL, now in many museum permanent collections. There are six pages and three color plates on me in MODERN WOMEN by MoMA -- my second group show there. My maiden name is Lisa Baumgardner. Uprated, but was unable to share -- YT limits us.
slobomotion 5 months ago
Duchamp decision to put a urinal in an Avante Garde show and calling it a Fountain opened the doors for modern, conceptual art - it's documented history not a popular perspective. He had been exploring this idea for at least 4 years before then - before travelling to New York . Interested in hearing other theories though!
SerenityNChaos 6 months ago
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SerenityNChaos 6 months ago
Modern American art was really a result of all of the European artists who left for Zurich & USA because of the Germans invading France.
SerenityNChaos 10 months ago
@SerenityNChaos thats one of the popular perspectives but there are others
MrFalconford 6 months ago
Warhol was a graphic designer not a fine artist....art for the masses ( I don't mind him & appreciate his place in art history). The Cubists & futurists - even post impressionists of Europe were so far ahead of their time. Not even in the same league! Sorry!! :)
Only Robert Hughes - Australian Art ....can explain The Large Glass with such ease and eloquence! :)
SerenityNChaos 10 months ago
I love "nude descending a staircase." It's so beautiful - one of my all-time favorites!
EyeLean5280 11 months ago
Phwoar...... I saw a nude lady! Yum Yum, bum bum.
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jblacktree 1 year ago
rictit, you are an idiot!
iggyp1 1 year ago
i think that artists work for their time and place, of course duchamp is a genius but his art worked well in his context, north american artists work for their moment, so, if you say that art from some region is the best, you have limits in your point of view and of course you will lose another revolutionary artist...
brujosilviomanuel 2 years ago
Robert Hughes is a Pile.
stevestevejam 3 years ago
American Art is important. You may not personally like it but it is an important art to Arts history. We must embrace it and also remember where its roots are, That is in Europe.
VanishingActFilms 3 years ago
He is a fucking genius!!!Not like American painters, which are stupid and repetitive!!!Specially those from the Expressionist Abstract period, which they did something that was done since 1900's!!But of course, the best dealers came from USA, after WWII, and that;s the reason why idiots like Warhol, Basquiat, Motherwell, DeKooning became famous!!!But really the best artists come from Europe, Japan, Latinamerica and that's it!!!!NO more than that!
rictit 3 years ago
A bit simplistic. Ironically, your attitude is very American. German art, particularly that which came after WWII, is quite fascinating.
larrypearce2 3 years ago
Yes, He is a genius but you cant rule out american painters. Yes, real art came from Europe and japan and so on but American art is important. With out American art we wouldent have nso many art movements of today. American artists like Pollock and Warhol are geniuses. Pop art is repetitive but its making fun at abstract expressionism and mocking art and nchallanging what is art. Without American Art we wouldent have had Feminist art which challanged so much that it created Post Modernism.
VanishingActFilms 3 years ago
Dude, don't tell me that Warhol is more genius than Marcel Duchamp, Picasso, Miro, Dali, Matisse, Derain, Bacon etc. Common Dude, let's be honest, the best dealers come from the U.S., so guess what artists are going to be the most succesful? Of course THE AMERICANS!!! Because Americans are very nationalistics
rictit 3 years ago
Im not going to lie Marcel Duchamp, Picasso, Miro, Dali, Matisse, Derain, Bacon are all genius but when they first came into art they used art to imitate life but when the camera was invented they were no longer needed to imitate life so they could finally explore form but when the American artists came into play they explored more than form, they challanged what was accepted as art to the point where house hold items are accepted as Art. Im not saying that americans are better than Europeans.
VanishingActFilms 3 years ago
What im saying is that Art changes and Transforms and although it is good to have favorties we need to accept all Art. We cannot ignore significant movements of Art and say it was only because they had the best dealers. They only reason Art sells is because it is accepted by the public eye.
VanishingActFilms 3 years ago
@VanishingActFilms You seem to somewhat ignorant of post ww2 european avante garde artists and movements, who were just as signifcant in terms of challanging the notion of art as americans.
almanacofsleep 1 year ago
Much more than that! Motherwell may have considered himself a Parisian counterpart, Dekooning fled trouble and came to recognition in the dealing world quiet late, mistakingly after his style had been in progression. The rest are irrelevant, To make a dignified statement about American abstraction against European Abstraction or realism would be partially absurd. Americans are at heart and almost by law radical to tradition, Hence the "New World".
stevestevejam 3 years ago
Very well put, Steve!!!! To add ¢2: I think Warhol is still severely underrated..
ffzappe 2 years ago